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Bernie Mac. I love Bernie.

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We were able to use Ben Stiller's son
for some of these vocalizations

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of the Baby Alex lion.

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Remember the rattle
used to be a zebra rattle. We actually...

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And Baby Alex bit the butt
of the zebra rattle and the dad said,

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"That's a bad habit."

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But it seemed more appropriate
for the story that it was a lion rattle.

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Yeah. We wanted to stay away
from food issues.

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Setting up this idea that,
just like lions in the real world,

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in this world you have to sort of
be tough and fight your way to the top.

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It's not a Manifest Destiny
situation here.

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There's Alec Baldwin's character.

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Very much a coincidence
that they have the same hairstyle.

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Actually, a lot of Baby Alex,

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it is Ben's son, Quinn,
but also Mark's son, Declan.

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- Yeah.
- Baby Declan.

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We went about 50 times to record
the six lines that he did.

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No, he does a great job.

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He's got a real future.

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I hear he's turned
into quite the diva.

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He was asking about his credit.

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He's three years old,
asking about his credit.

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We thought this was a great opportunity
to just set up the story from the start.

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That's the benefit of a sequel,
'cause, you know,

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a lot of people are familiar
with the characters,

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so we could jump right into story,
which is great.

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I think this beginning really
helps the story, just seeing

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what happened to Baby Alex
and how it impacted his father

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sets it up for the rest of the movie.
It really makes it powerful at the end.

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We also spent a lot of time
on the music in that opening part,

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how to make it feel different
from Lion King, that other movie

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that shall never be mentioned, in Africa.

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I like that hunter's voice.
It's really good.

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- Eric.
- Such a mean man.

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This grass was a huge challenge
for the film. Millions of blades

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blowing in the wind and moving
when characters walk through it.

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The beginning of the film,
we didn't think we could do it.

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But the guys figured out some
technology, and between our effects

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and lighting department, we were
able to create massive fields

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of savannah grass.

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This is the intense moment of the film.
We sometimes screen this to kids,

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and it can be really
a little bit disturbing for them.

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- Again...
- Right there.

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Half-dozen versions of that ear,
tried to get it to be clear,

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- but not too gross.
- Right.

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The blood had been fluorescent
at one time. Just really bright.

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This is where some kids cry
in the theater.

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We debated whether or not to reveal
that Zuba was okay or not here.

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We thought that might
have been too sad.

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Yeah. In retrospect,
it seemed like the right thing to do.

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Here's the magic of the movies.
He comes from Kenya,

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floats in the ocean
and will make his way to New York.

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- It could happen.
- It could.

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It's fun. When we were figuring out the
timeline of when this was happening,

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it was in the '70s.

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We just thought it would be appropriate
to have the Twin Towers in there.

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But some people thought it was
disturbing to have the Twin Towers,

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even though, historically,
they'd be there.

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There was a debate about that.

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I felt it was disturbing
if we hadn't had it.

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It's like rewriting history.

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Just to prove it was in the '70s,
earlier, in the last sequence,

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the characters actually had sideburns.
Just to make it feel legit.

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A natural performer, Alex.

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Gets to the zoo and he's right at home.

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This is the first song that will.I.am
worked on with Hans Zimmer

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using some themes from the first film.

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That's Willow as Gloria.
Jada's daughter.

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The butterfly maneuver,
which comes back later.

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It was nice to revisit the zoo,

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and have an opportunity, in this movie,
to set up where they came from.

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Good thing we still
had the set lying around.

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So to speak.

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We reused some footage
from the first film.

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- Give it a TV look.
- That's Meredith Vieira

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from The Today Show, which I love.

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- Yeah.
- Watch every day.

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Setting up Nana here.

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"Previously, on 24."

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This is a good opportunity,
even if you didn't see the movie,

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we kind of just replayed a bit...
The first movie, if you didn't see,

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it would just keep people up to speed.

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- Al Roker.
- Lesley Stahl was the other one.

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60 Minutes.

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The song that drove parents crazy
is coming up soon.

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We thought it'd be fun
to have this NASA moment

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with them going up in the elevator.

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Guillermo Navarro came in.
We should talk about him.

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He helped us with our cinematography.

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This is a shot he devised.
He thought it was important to set up

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the world and where we left off and...

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An excruciating shot for the people who
had to light it. Mark, I don't know...

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For a year. I think this is the most
expensive shot in the movie.

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And it's a great shot, though.

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When we play this with the kids,
they start getting up and dancing.

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It's great. This song is like

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- candy to these kids.
- There's the duty-free shop

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in the background, if you see it.
Buy coconuts and masks there.

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We thought it'd be fun to use that plane
that we set up in the first movie.

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Originally,
it was Amelia Earhart's lost plane.

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It turned into a Madagascar
tour plane, right? In French.

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Sacha Baron Cohen is King Julien.

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A lot of improvisation for us,
like this little song there...

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We can use about 10% of his improv.
We want to get a PG rating.

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I was just thinking in watching this,
going back to the beginning,

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we'd be watching it in boards,
a long time ago.

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But thinking about Rob Koo,
our head of story,

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especially the opening and all that,
but through all of this

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and how it developed.
Talking about Guillermo,

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but how it all starts with those boards.

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Yeah. For those of you who don't know,
we start with drawings.

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We draw thousands and thousands
of drawings to put the film up,

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and watch it like a movie
before we do any animation.

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We really count on these artists

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to kind of help
with our cinematography, our story.

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They come up with a lot of gags
and lines as well.

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Andy Richter as Mort. He's so funny.

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Doesn't seem like airport security
will change in the next 20 years,

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so that gag might hold up.

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We always joked
about the world's biggest slingshot,

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since this is the second...
"Madagascar Space Program."

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- That line got cut.
- It did get cut.

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Great effects work on this plane
from Scott Peterson and his team.

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All through this scene
and coming up with the plane crash,

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just an incredible amount of work
to get all this smoke

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and props and pieces of metal falling
off the plane, that sort of thing.

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Vines right there. Huge effort.

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- Great sound, as that plane falls.
- Skywalker guys.

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That's a great joke.
Always gets a huge laugh.

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- I love the one guy that falls off.
- Yeah.

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We could have ended the movie there.

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That was the end of the movie
for Mort for a while.

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- Yeah.
- We just loved Andy so much.

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Loved Mort.

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We used to have this dream Alex would
have about being back in New York

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and being a nightmare,
and he would be waking up from it here.

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It ended up being cut and it
seemed to work okay with the lightning.

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This was a tough scene
'cause we'd had fun action,

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and we needed
to get out some information.

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We used to have dozens of different
versions of this conversation.

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I always liked the tourist skeletons.

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They didn't really do much
to clean out the plane.

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All these old tourists
from the Madagascar tour.

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That was a great example
of what the animators do

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to capture the essence
of David Schwimmer,

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especially when he's looking awkward
and gets up and leaves.

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It helps to videotape him
while they're recording,

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but the animators are great
at caricaturing these expressions.

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I felt that was one place
where Rex Grignon, head of animation,

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pushed more on this. It's not quite as...

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We don't have as much of that,
like, stretchy, kind of goofy,

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but we put more into acting.
It's much more subtle.

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- Don't you think?
- Yeah. It was great to push the nuance.

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It's one of the things
we were able to do with this film,

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since we knew the characters

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after working with them for five years
on the first film.

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We knew we could go to deeper, richer,
more emotional places with them.

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It put demands on the animators

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to, at times, really get that subtlety

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and really show what's going on
deep inside our characters.

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Some of those emotional moments.

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We're coming into the plane crash,
which is the first sequence

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we put into production.
Tom, you originally boarded this,

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and it's close
to what you did three years ago.

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It was one of the hardest sequences,
and our first sequence, which was good,

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but a challenge getting it through.

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Bold move.

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The effects work in this is just fantastic.

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That's what makes it.

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The Skipper is your alter ego.
Do you have a little doll at home?

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Yes. The doll is great.
That was the first scene with the doll.

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And I think Mireille wanted to...

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Eventually, we named it Lola,
after the Copacabana song

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at the end of the movie.

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Amazing shot here.
All these objects floating around.

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Big challenge for the effects guys.

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This is one of the scenes where
we actually got Ben and Chris together

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and recorded them
performing this scene.

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So it was really funny to just sit back
and watch them play off each other.

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They did more iPod humor
with Marty saying,

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"I had 10,015 songs on that thing."

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Alex would say, "Neil Diamond
didn't write 10,000 songs."

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"So now you're dissing Neil Diamond?"

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I think it was also an area where
Guillermo Navarro, who came in,

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really helped us
do some cinema on that.

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It's really fun, we had layout people.
We just shot it live-action.

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We had some layout artists
sitting on top of chairs.

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He'd move the camera around.

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I think he helped us push
to make it more dynamic.

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Dumped the couch on its back
so the animators were in the couch

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looking up into the ceiling,
shaking the couch.

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It was very low-rent, low-tech stuff.

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But it really helped us
in a very quick and inexpensive way

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to find ways to shoot the sequence,
keep it dynamic

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and not get locked into standard,
cliché setups.

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I miss a line there. It says, "Kiss
it like you kiss your sister."

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- Tom, you also used to say...
- "Like you're kissing the pope's ring."

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"Kissing the pope's ring." I love that.
We had to cut it out for timing.

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It was a great line.

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Being a good Catholic boy,
I like that one.

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Just to mention the clouds here.
We took a trip to Africa.

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We realised clouds
would be two-thirds of our set.

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So we had to come in
and talk to the smart people

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about how to build the clouds,

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make them three-dimensional so we
could light them in particular ways.

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Remember Kendal Cronkhite,
our production designer's,

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early vis-Dev on this,
the visual development on this?

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Remember how graphic...
Beautiful paintings

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of very, very graphic trees.
We wanted this to look not...

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We didn't want it
to tip off that we were in Africa.

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- More ambiguous.
- We wanted to be ambiguous in this.

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We hid the horizon line.
Kendal kept it moody.

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There's Ben ad-libbing,
which brought about that

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"69 months" gag throughout the film.

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When the switchblade came up, too, we
wondered if we could get away with it.

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We were prepared to do a switchblade
comb in case we couldn't.

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But a switchblade's fine.

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There's so many little details
that are great.

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You can look at this endlessly,
controls in the cockpit

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or the air mask that Melman's
breathing through. It's in French.

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- On the air bag...
- The little guy with a beret.

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Yeah.

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There's even an artist creating Marty's
drink. Making sure it looks...

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Bumps around
and the cubes are floating correctly.

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You get nothing for free in these
movies. Always an artist behind it.

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Bill Winter Safaris.
There's our tribute to Bill Winter.

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He was our guide in Africa,
when we went to Africa.

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We took all the creative leads
from the film.

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Jeffrey Katzenberg said,

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"If you're gonna make a movie
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"you've got to go and see it."
And he happened to have a plane.

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He took us there.
We had a great trip. Ten days...

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- It was amazing. Unbelievable.
- and nine reserves.

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When Alex was chasing the jeep,
the shot seemed a little bit soft focus.

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Could we fix that, you guys?

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I'm keeping a file of notes we've
gotten since the movie's come out.

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This is another scene we talked about.
Was it too violent?

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Was it over the top?
What really helps here is the music.

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The music makes it so silly
and ridiculous

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that I don't think anyone's
questioned that since it came out.

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- Yeah, go ahead.
- We did that polka theme for Nana.

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We could do covers in polka.
That was her music.

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We originally had the Star Trek
fight music in there.

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If you didn't get the joke,
seemed really dark.

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The thing is, you can beat Nana up,
as long as she never gets hurt

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and she always wins.

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We're just about
to reveal the beautiful...

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We called it the Jurassic Park shot.
Our first reveal of the watering hole.

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The is where the art team
did an amazing job.

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You can really see that they went
to Africa and took it all in.

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I think this is such a beautiful shot.

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Mireille, you always wanted
to make sure we did this right.

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To make sure
we landed the moment here.

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- Well, it's like landing in Oz.
- Yeah.

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We always...

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Here's the first sighting of our crowds,
which is an incredible task for us.

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We didn't know if we could do this.

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Our crowd scene did four times
the amount of crowds

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we've ever done in a movie before.

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They did an amazing job,
Justin and his team.

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On top of the fact
that you've got thousands of animals,

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you've got animals of all different sizes,
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some are on four.
Managing those extras

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and making sure they're not crashing
into each other is a monumental task.

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- Putting them in grass.
- Yeah.

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Here's a piece where a lot of the
animators used to film themselves

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doing the line and show it to the director

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so they'd have a quick feedback
on the acting.

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One of the animators, Carlos,
did a few of these shots.

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Every time I see these shots,
I see Carlos acting them out.

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It's also a testament to Ben Stiller
and just his creativeness,

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- ad-libbing all this stuff.
- Yeah.

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- That's Fergie.
- Yeah. Fergie is the hippo.

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Little cameo.

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So, now, we're not in the '70s any more.
So no more sideburns.

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Then the coughing that Bernie
had done there, he did cough

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when he tried to roar.
It just seemed fitting for the character.

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- So we actually put it in.
- We searched and searched

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for the right voice for Zuba,
Alex's father here.

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And it was really tough,
because we needed this conflict

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between father and son.
But we're not making The Great Santini.

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We wanted him to still be warm
and for audiences to know

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that he still loved his son.

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Ultimately, you hope
that they come together again.

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Then when we found Bernie,
he was just perfect.

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- And Sherri Shepherd, too.
- Yeah.

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- Yes.
- One person that can hold her own.

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- She's a great actor.
- Yeah. Up against Bernie Mac.

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We wanted somebody tough.

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We went through
so many birthmark signs.

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Some were African symbology
for "fighting lion,"

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and it ended up being Africa
and Madagascar.

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- Not too subtle.
- Kids understand it, I suppose.

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- Yeah, not too subtle.
- This is one of the areas

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the animators really landed.
This was John Hill's team.

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This sequence, I think,
was just seen as the starting

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to recognize as Alex, is really powerful
and the animators, with very little,

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really landed this. It's so emotional.

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Even little eye twitches and eye darts
really helps out the subtlety.

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We end up having a lot
of these 360 shots,

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which... 360 shots in the movie
that are hard to light.

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You have to light it from every angle.

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But we had a lot of these,
and the lighters really

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made a great effort
to give us what we wanted.

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We have Zuba, 20 years later.
He's got a little gray streak in his hair.

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- You mean Makunga?
- Makunga, sorry.

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I think this was partly...
Didn't Kendal see someone at an airport

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who had a gray streak and thought
it'd be great for the character?

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I saw that guy, too,
at the airport the same day.

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Rob Koo put the dik-dik in Makunga's
hands that he's playing with.

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Like in Africa,
we just saw dik-diks everywhere.

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- What do you call them, Tom?
- Africa's Cheetos.

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Every animal snacks on them.

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Kendal was great.
We did this Lawrence of Arabia bit here

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and she made sure that it was...
Their hats were made

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out of the parachute they landed in.

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To try and keep the details real,
to make the world a little real.

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We said, "Chris, we want you
to voice every zebra in Africa."

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- He just said, "Okay."
- It was amazing.

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He was so wonderful about it.

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Then we had him say the same line
over and over again.

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He would have to say
"It's crack-a-lackin'" 50 times.

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"It's crack-a-lackin'.
It's crack-a-lackin'."

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It was very difficult
in the production design of this

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to differentiate our characters
from the other African animals.

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Kendal Cronkhite and Shannon Jeffries
did a great job of, like,

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de-saturating the other animals,
having them different designs.

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And to pull our main characters out,
which is really hard.

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Then the problem of getting the animals
to stand out from the background

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because they're made to blend in
so they don't get eaten.

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We learned that Mother Nature
knows what she's doing.

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We put our lions out in the field
of grass, and we couldn't see them.

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So we had to bring up their color,
knock back the color of the grass

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and other tricks
to make sure our characters popped.

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I think, with the lions,
we designed them once,

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and Kendal felt strongly that they
looked too similar to Alex and Zuba,

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that we had to go back in and redo
our lions to make them stand out more.

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With the zebras, it's the other way.

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They all look just like Marty,
with little variations.

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Originally, these
were individual scenes, and then...

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It's great that we kind
of did the intercutting here.

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We really tightened them up
so we could make it a party scene.

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We had Will on the film

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to work with Hans Zimmer to do music.
But he also did voices.

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He did what he called his
"deep, dark, chocolate" voice

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for... Moto Moto.

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We just knew we had to use him.
It was so much fun.

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We were even in the studio
doing that voice then,

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and he said, "I've got an idea
for a song." It just hit him.

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He pulled a piano bench over

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and started banging on it
in front of the mike.

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Boom, boom, boom.

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- Then he started to do that...
- Amazing. So wonderful.

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He ran back behind the end of the booth
and pushed the engineer aside

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and started using his software
to cut it together.

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In 20 minutes, he had the song.
Pretty much as it appears in the film.

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Also, with Moto Moto it's great that the
guys who rigged our virtual puppets,

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we wanted to have him to be able to flex
his pecs and also flex his butt cheeks.

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So they gave the animators
the tools to do that.

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It's surreal when you're doing
your job and saying things like,

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"We need more butt cheek flex."

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Always, the little hairs on Moto Moto's
chest kind of creeped me out.

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They used to go a lot lower.
We had to...

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What is it called, manscaping?

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Sacha did this...

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It wasn't even in the film, this song.

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He said, "It'd be great
if Julien sang Private Dancer."

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He went off for 10 minutes
doing this song and dancing and...

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Didn't he do an hour
of all different songs?

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Yeah, he did many songs.

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My favourite was when he was singing
Word Up! by Cameo. That was great.

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This little sequence, we just thought
a nice comedic introduction

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to get us in, and then
we remembered Sacha's singing

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and found a place to put it in.

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We could make a film
on each of these characters.

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That's the hard part of the job.

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Losing a lot of stuff to fit the story
into the movie.

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It was a big challenge on this story
'cause we carry 12 characters,

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13 characters from Mad 1,
and then all the characters they meet.

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So it was a big challenge just
to service everybody.

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This is the first sequence we did
the 3D clouds in.

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It took them a long time
to get it worked out,

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but I think it looks beautiful.

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This is fun, with the penguins.
They never support the story,

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so they can always
be comic relief, in a way.

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That's why they're so fun to work with.

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We just all love Boston so much.
We wanted to get them into the film.

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What about Nana getting tossed out
through the windshield?

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Is that a Rob Koo special, or was that...

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We had a whole fight sequence here
at one point.

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This joke was Jeffrey's joke.
We showed it to Jeffrey, and he said,

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"They gotta stop and say, 'Is she dead?
No?' And go back for her."

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The sound effect
was really important on that.

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- When they hit, the beach-ball sound.
- Right.

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When it was too harsh, you went...

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No one likes their grandmas
being hit by jeeps.

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This is the extension sequence.

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We completed the sequence
and added this beat

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as Nana became a bigger character
throughout the movie.

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Originally, we had many
types of villains.

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We had evil hunter-poachers, we had...
Who was it?

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- German princess.
- Goethe Von Ishkabibble.

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We needed a blue-eyed lion.
So it was all these diabolical plans

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to dam the river that feeds the reserve.

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- She was a princess from...
- Löwenbräuenstein.

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- Sounds like a bottle of lager.
- It does.

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This was great. It was suggested in
a story meeting that we just use Nana.

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It fell into place because it became
more of a cause-and-effect situation

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with her and the tourists
losing their jeeps.

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She's not the villain, either.

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It's really more Makunga
who's pulling the strings

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- and doing the evil stuff.
- Let's talk about lighting, here...

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It's so beautiful.

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I love Bernie in this sequence.
He does such a great job.

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So much of it was ad-libbed.
It makes him so sweet.

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This is a great sequence
for the family dynamic.

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Bernie went into this whole ad-lib
about Alex hiding in a box.

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He wouldn't come to dinner.
We didn't have boxes in Africa,

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so we couldn't use it,
but it was really cute.

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The music here is really beautiful
underneath this scene.

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It helps with the emotions.
Again, Hans Zimmer.

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We knew we wanted this nice,
warm light in here.

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And weren't sure exactly
how to achieve it. You never...

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Throughout the scene,
you never see the source of that light,

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until the very end.

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Which is another idea
that came from the story department.

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Kids always like the foofie joke.

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They can identify.

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That was a great line
that Sherri ad-libbed.

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As opposed to the first one, you were
talking about this before, Mireille,

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we wanted the opportunity
to flex muscles in animation,

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both with broad and the subtle stuff.

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This is where the animators
came through with bringing that.

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We didn't have too much of that
in the first movie.

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The story alone created opportunities
to do this kind of acting.

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She had this moment coming up where
she kisses him. I love that moment.

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- We used to have dialog.
- Wasn't this you insisting here,

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when you had little children,
you used to just stare at...

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My kids are older. They still get mad.

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I go in when they're sleeping
and stare at them.

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They're trying to go to sleep,
saying, "Go away, Mom. Go away!"

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- We should have just kept her there.
- Peeking.

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We did have her there.
Zuba would come get her.

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"Come on, let the boy sleep."

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We're back to our polka.

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That's Philly Joe, who's Stephen.

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Stephen is the reader who'd work with
the actors every time we're recording.

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He's an actor himself and does voices.
He was great.

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He's Philly Joe, with the video camera,

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as well as one of the giraffes, Stephen.

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- Named after him.
- You're in my light, Stephen.

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This is great work that
Philippe Gluckman and Scott Peterson

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00:33:52,510 --> 00:33:55,901
did with lighting and effects
to make this gag play.

454
00:33:59,870 --> 00:34:01,622
There's the corporate-ladder people.

455
00:34:01,710 --> 00:34:03,508
There used to be 25 of them.

456
00:34:03,590 --> 00:34:05,945
"What's up
with the corporate-ladder people?"

457
00:34:06,030 --> 00:34:09,466
So we had to find
more variety with T-shirts.

458
00:34:48,270 --> 00:34:51,183
Mort's so fun. Andy Richter is just like,

459
00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:53,739
he created the "tra-la-la" song.

460
00:34:54,390 --> 00:34:58,384
He's the only one that could get
to that falsetto voice

461
00:34:58,470 --> 00:35:01,144
and not have it be
really super-annoying.

462
00:35:01,590 --> 00:35:03,422
He's just funny, you know?

463
00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:08,182
But that was a challenge.
We had to make sure

464
00:35:08,270 --> 00:35:10,022
we didn't see him in the water.

465
00:35:10,110 --> 00:35:11,862
- Oh, yeah.
- We added that scene.

466
00:35:11,950 --> 00:35:14,100
We couldn't show
the shark in the water.

467
00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:40,979
It's sort of the "infinite number
of monkeys" concept,

468
00:35:41,070 --> 00:35:44,062
which allows you
to accomplish anything.

469
00:35:44,150 --> 00:35:47,222
We had jokes about writing
works of Shakespeare, eventually,

470
00:35:47,310 --> 00:35:51,861
- but those kind of went away.
- Mason, played by Conrad Vernon,

471
00:35:51,950 --> 00:35:56,387
one of the directors
of Monsters vs. Aliens and Shrek 2.

472
00:35:58,150 --> 00:36:01,268
I love the fact that most
of the animals in the movie talk,

473
00:36:01,390 --> 00:36:04,860
apart from the monkeys.
They're actual monkeys. They don't talk.

474
00:36:04,950 --> 00:36:07,021
- And the flamingos.
- And the flamingos.

475
00:36:07,550 --> 00:36:09,470
And the dik-diks.
The dik-diks talk a little bit.

476
00:36:12,470 --> 00:36:13,790
We call that monkey Mason.

477
00:36:13,870 --> 00:36:17,704
Conrad does
his best James Mason impersonation.

478
00:36:17,830 --> 00:36:21,141
- He's the only talking monkey.
- Whenever Phil does sign language,

479
00:36:21,230 --> 00:36:25,588
as well, we do our research and
bring in people that know sign language

480
00:36:25,670 --> 00:36:28,503
so the animators can actually
get it right.

481
00:36:39,350 --> 00:36:42,980
We used to have Alex here with
mime makeup. He looked like a mime.

482
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:48,220
We're just... Since we wanted this
emotional scene after he gets banished,

483
00:36:48,310 --> 00:36:50,950
it didn't really...
He was hard to take seriously

484
00:36:51,030 --> 00:36:53,465
- with the mime-face makeup.
- He looked like a clown.

485
00:36:53,550 --> 00:36:55,427
Yeah, it was a clown.

486
00:37:04,030 --> 00:37:06,624
This was one
of the first ideas in the film,

487
00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:11,068
that Alex would go through this rite
of passage. We tried many things,

488
00:37:11,550 --> 00:37:15,225
you know, even alluding
to circumcision at one point.

489
00:37:15,310 --> 00:37:19,827
Different gags.
But it kept coming back to this idea

490
00:37:19,910 --> 00:37:24,905
that Etan Cohen,
our writer, came up with,

491
00:37:24,990 --> 00:37:27,106
that Alex would do
this dance performance

492
00:37:27,190 --> 00:37:29,022
and actually do West Side Story.

493
00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:32,949
We went away from it a few times,
but it kept coming back.

494
00:37:33,030 --> 00:37:35,180
It just seemed so Alex.

495
00:37:35,270 --> 00:37:37,261
His dad was explaining it,
he used to say,

496
00:37:37,350 --> 00:37:40,149
"There's not gonna be any snipping,
is there?"

497
00:37:40,230 --> 00:37:42,267
Zuba would laugh and say,
"Not if you're quick."

498
00:38:03,750 --> 00:38:07,186
We used to have this to make it clear
cubs would pick out partners to fight.

499
00:38:07,270 --> 00:38:12,106
One of them fought Grampy,
the elderly lion.

500
00:38:12,870 --> 00:38:16,784
- Picked lions they could beat.
- The other one, his little brother.

501
00:38:16,870 --> 00:38:20,261
I think Grampy said, "Get off my lawn!"

502
00:38:20,910 --> 00:38:23,299
- Wheezy, I think, was there.
- Yeah.

503
00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:27,024
Teetsi was fun. This is great.

504
00:38:27,110 --> 00:38:30,740
We wanted to do these muscles
popping out of him.

505
00:38:30,830 --> 00:38:34,949
They went to great lengths
to have two models of Teetsi.

506
00:38:35,990 --> 00:38:38,584
One was the lethargic one,
and one was fully ripped.

507
00:38:38,670 --> 00:38:42,106
They could make muscles pop out of it,
which is really fun.

508
00:38:55,550 --> 00:38:58,861
I like how, despite all his fierceness,
he gets kind of,

509
00:38:59,030 --> 00:39:01,419
"Not 'dance' dance."
He gets bummed out.

510
00:39:03,670 --> 00:39:06,583
This was great. And, as earlier before,

511
00:39:06,670 --> 00:39:10,425
the animators would act this out
and videotape themselves dancing.

512
00:39:10,510 --> 00:39:13,423
We had a choreographer, Yeko,
who also broke down

513
00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:16,309
the West Side Story choreography

514
00:39:16,390 --> 00:39:19,826
and was an aid to the animators,
as well.

515
00:39:20,910 --> 00:39:24,665
Also, the cubs coming out,
a lot of African movement.

516
00:39:24,750 --> 00:39:28,300
African dance, choreographed
a whole dance for them.

517
00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:49,983
Even for things like Alex's black eye,

518
00:39:50,070 --> 00:39:54,985
we had to track it through the movie
and, you know, different stages.

519
00:39:55,070 --> 00:39:58,108
I'm sure it's the same continuity
you'd have in live-action.

520
00:39:58,190 --> 00:40:00,306
But there's three stages
for Alex's black eye

521
00:40:00,390 --> 00:40:02,381
that thread throughout the movie.

522
00:40:03,390 --> 00:40:07,349
As well, the fruit hat
has three stages of wilting.

523
00:40:14,310 --> 00:40:19,589
Just for the choreography here,
with these grandstands, again,

524
00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:23,903
Guillermo Navarro encouraging us
to shoot these scenes low-tech

525
00:40:23,990 --> 00:40:28,700
with video cameras and just people
around the studio being the actors.

526
00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:32,340
It really helped in our low-tech version
of shooting these shots

527
00:40:32,430 --> 00:40:34,990
to choreograph
the staging and blocking.

528
00:40:35,070 --> 00:40:39,268
In this one, I remember we went outside
and shot it on the stands,

529
00:40:39,350 --> 00:40:42,024
where they had baseball,
so we could have steps

530
00:40:42,110 --> 00:40:46,820
and Nol and the team,
out there in the cold, shooting it.

531
00:40:46,910 --> 00:40:51,461
Yeah. There's probably 60%
of the movie we shot that way.

532
00:40:51,550 --> 00:40:55,544
I just wanted to have H.,
our editor, cut that together

533
00:40:55,630 --> 00:41:00,101
so we had a version
of video of us acting it out.

534
00:41:00,390 --> 00:41:01,505
Yeah.

535
00:41:14,270 --> 00:41:17,900
These Hats of Shame, they have
this in some tribes in Africa.

536
00:41:17,990 --> 00:41:20,027
Eric had researched.

537
00:41:21,590 --> 00:41:25,265
When we were unsure of whether
we should have Alex wearing a fruit hat

538
00:41:25,350 --> 00:41:29,105
for a third of the movie,
it was justified by reality.

539
00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:31,750
They make kids,
if they fail the rite of passage,

540
00:41:31,830 --> 00:41:35,619
wear this big, flowery, feathery
hat of embarrassment.

541
00:41:39,070 --> 00:41:43,667
We used to try and justify where they
had gone, far away from watering hole

542
00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:46,469
in the dik-dik area
with dik-diks surrounding them.

543
00:41:47,350 --> 00:41:49,341
But we decided
we didn't need to explain it

544
00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:51,660
as much as just get into the scene.

545
00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:54,665
We used to have a lot of dik-dik jokes.

546
00:41:54,750 --> 00:41:57,503
We were afraid people wouldn't know
that it was a real animal.

547
00:41:59,510 --> 00:42:00,784
This was one of the sequences

548
00:42:00,870 --> 00:42:03,783
we reworked
more than any other sequence.

549
00:42:04,510 --> 00:42:08,583
Right. It was tough.
It's the big split between father and son.

550
00:42:09,710 --> 00:42:12,987
- Finding the right tone.
- Hans, with this bit,

551
00:42:13,070 --> 00:42:17,621
wanted to be subtle with the music.
And had that nice piano beat.

552
00:42:17,710 --> 00:42:20,179
When we were in London scoring,

553
00:42:20,310 --> 00:42:23,348
Eric's son had the opportunity
to sit at the piano

554
00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:27,310
- and play those chords.
- He was thrilled.

555
00:42:27,430 --> 00:42:30,343
Eric's tearing up now
as we're talking about it.

556
00:42:38,070 --> 00:42:42,985
In this sequence, we used
to have the ostrich giving birth.

557
00:42:44,830 --> 00:42:48,266
- Melman was delivering an egg.
- Twelve-pound omelet.

558
00:42:49,630 --> 00:42:51,667
Schwimmer had a great line. He said,

559
00:42:51,750 --> 00:42:53,790
"Don't worry about the shell.
He'll grow out of it."

560
00:42:57,910 --> 00:43:02,541
He also had an assistant, Sandy,
who is on the cutting-room floor.

561
00:43:02,630 --> 00:43:06,021
The gum-chewing,
clipboard-toting Sandy.

562
00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:09,427
I'd love to know what the elephant did
to get his trunk in such a knot.

563
00:43:09,510 --> 00:43:13,219
Melman says he's been naughty.
I want to know what that means.

564
00:43:13,310 --> 00:43:14,948
Don't ask.

565
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:20,740
That was the old magic trick.
The knot was not part of his trunk.

566
00:43:20,870 --> 00:43:25,068
It was a model put on there. We had
to find a way to get rid of the knot.

567
00:43:25,150 --> 00:43:29,144
The animator pulled it off screen
and did the old switcheroo.

568
00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:34,226
This is Cassidy Curtis' sequence.
Did a great job with his crew

569
00:43:34,310 --> 00:43:37,701
- to bring out the comedy in Melman.
- This is from the first film,

570
00:43:37,790 --> 00:43:40,623
when Marty did his show in the zoo
in New York City.

571
00:43:49,310 --> 00:43:52,507
They helped him, too,
because I believe they used...

572
00:43:52,590 --> 00:43:56,185
They started with the effects of water
that we used in the first movie.

573
00:43:56,270 --> 00:43:59,706
So it gave the effects artists
a helping hand there.

574
00:43:59,790 --> 00:44:05,502
Water is extremely difficult
for Effects to get it to look right.

575
00:44:05,870 --> 00:44:10,546
This, actually, you wouldn't think of
as being a difficult effects sequence.

576
00:44:10,670 --> 00:44:14,903
But between the water and grass...
It's not like it's explosions.

577
00:44:14,990 --> 00:44:17,869
It was a really tricky sequence
for our effects team.

578
00:44:19,750 --> 00:44:22,105
We had many debates
over this shot here

579
00:44:22,190 --> 00:44:25,467
about the water hitting Marty,

580
00:44:25,550 --> 00:44:30,340
'cause that's a really hard contact,
when water contacts another character.

581
00:44:30,830 --> 00:44:32,946
And wet characters are very difficult.

582
00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:41,504
Something that's probably easy in live
action, but hard in computer animation.

583
00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:47,187
A lot of help from Skywalker Sound.

584
00:44:47,270 --> 00:44:52,026
Mixing a million zebras and trying
to make it feel like a huge group.

585
00:44:58,270 --> 00:45:02,184
This is Eric's joke that was always
funny. "Folding it here."

586
00:45:04,190 --> 00:45:05,703
Another huge scene.

587
00:45:05,790 --> 00:45:09,624
This took a long time,
to choreograph all these monkeys.

588
00:45:09,710 --> 00:45:13,943
If you notice here, that's meant
to be toilets that get knocked over.

589
00:45:14,030 --> 00:45:16,943
We move by it so fast,
it's hard to catch it.

590
00:45:17,070 --> 00:45:19,380
But a lot of thought went into that joke.

591
00:45:19,470 --> 00:45:22,189
Another great thing,
when we come in on the plane,

592
00:45:22,270 --> 00:45:25,547
you see Lunch Monkey underneath
the plane, eating his banana.

593
00:45:25,630 --> 00:45:27,382
I love seeing that little guy.

594
00:45:27,670 --> 00:45:30,230
The crowds people would put
monkeys everywhere.

595
00:45:30,310 --> 00:45:32,904
They have their own little jokes...

596
00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:35,500
Find Waldo. Where's Waldo?

597
00:45:36,990 --> 00:45:39,903
This was another scene
we shot with Guillermo.

598
00:45:39,990 --> 00:45:43,301
A lot of the ideas with these monkeys
tearing apart the plane

599
00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:47,025
is sort of their relationships
all get torn apart,

600
00:45:47,110 --> 00:45:50,466
- came out of that live-action shoot.
- When we started,

601
00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:53,224
it played like talking heads.

602
00:45:53,310 --> 00:45:55,824
It's like, what do we have
around the plane?

603
00:45:55,910 --> 00:45:58,663
Monkeys came up,
and people pretended to be monkeys,

604
00:45:58,750 --> 00:46:02,061
pulling chairs out from under them.
It gave it a little bit of life.

605
00:46:03,190 --> 00:46:06,546
One of the tools
that the art department team used...

606
00:46:06,670 --> 00:46:10,504
Before the movie starts, they ask us
about emotional highs and lows

607
00:46:10,590 --> 00:46:13,503
going on in the film.
This is a moment where things

608
00:46:13,590 --> 00:46:16,867
are going wrong for the characters.
Skies are Grey.

609
00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:21,069
Maybe people don't connect that.
But it really helps with the film

610
00:46:21,150 --> 00:46:23,346
that when things are down,

611
00:46:23,470 --> 00:46:26,781
you'll see skies are Grey,
the color's pulled out.

612
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:30,545
When things are happy for characters,
they're the most colorful scenes.

613
00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:33,861
Kendal and her team will track this
and plan sequences around

614
00:46:33,950 --> 00:46:37,147
the emotional beats of the sequence.

615
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:47,024
It's fun to hear the ripple
go through the crowd as they realise,

616
00:46:47,110 --> 00:46:51,627
"Wait a minute. That's Mart...
He's not Marty... Oh!"

617
00:46:52,550 --> 00:46:56,748
As Alex is discovering it,
the audience is, too.

618
00:46:56,830 --> 00:47:00,186
This is another great scene.
Ben and Chris, again in the same room,

619
00:47:00,270 --> 00:47:05,060
played off each other
and brought this scene to life.

620
00:47:17,830 --> 00:47:19,582
This is another one where you see

621
00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:21,900
the live-action reference
coming from the animator,

622
00:47:22,030 --> 00:47:25,227
- it's Jason Spencer Galsworthy.
- It looks like Jason.

623
00:47:25,310 --> 00:47:26,983
It does.

624
00:47:27,070 --> 00:47:30,222
A lot of times, animators will look
in a mirror when doing performances,

625
00:47:30,310 --> 00:47:34,349
and as much as you can get Ben Stiller,
you can also get the animator in there.

626
00:47:52,110 --> 00:47:56,263
Way in the distance, behind Marty,
there's a thousand zebras.

627
00:47:56,350 --> 00:47:59,263
If you watch close, you'll see them,
they're grazing, moving around.

628
00:48:02,550 --> 00:48:06,862
It's that little touch,
just helps keep it real.

629
00:48:12,110 --> 00:48:13,942
Great scope in this.

630
00:48:14,030 --> 00:48:17,705
This film could have
benefited from 3D, in a way.

631
00:48:17,950 --> 00:48:21,989
But we're fortunate not to have to
jump through all those hoops.

632
00:48:22,070 --> 00:48:25,586
It is the last 2D movie for DreamWorks.

633
00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:28,822
If you kids run up and touch the screen
and feel how smooth it is,

634
00:48:30,430 --> 00:48:34,219
enjoy, because it will soon
have 3D effect.

635
00:48:41,350 --> 00:48:42,420
Stereoscopic.

636
00:48:43,950 --> 00:48:46,021
In all these environments, you know,

637
00:48:46,910 --> 00:48:50,505
a lot of the tone
and the feel of these spaces

638
00:48:50,590 --> 00:48:53,821
come from our trip to Africa. We really

639
00:48:54,950 --> 00:48:58,500
shared these sunsets,
what have you, together.

640
00:48:58,590 --> 00:49:00,228
When we came to the studio,

641
00:49:00,310 --> 00:49:02,779
it was shorthand for us
with the creative leads.

642
00:49:02,870 --> 00:49:06,181
"Remember that day, sun was going
down on the Masai Mara,

643
00:49:06,270 --> 00:49:09,262
- "trees were silhouette?"
- We'd get up to watch the sunrise.

644
00:49:09,350 --> 00:49:13,583
And so it was kind of
a real shorthand for us.

645
00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:19,110
King Julien's moved up in the world.

646
00:49:19,150 --> 00:49:22,222
He's riding ostriches
instead of flamingos.

647
00:49:23,790 --> 00:49:27,385
Throughout the movie, we track
King Julien's apparent rise as king.

648
00:49:27,470 --> 00:49:31,065
You'll notice he's riding
a higher class of animal each time.

649
00:49:31,950 --> 00:49:35,022
Sacha ad-libbing this scene.
We had something else in here,

650
00:49:35,110 --> 00:49:37,989
and he decided,
"Julien would want to whistle."

651
00:49:38,070 --> 00:49:39,902
He probably whistled
a dozen songs, too.

652
00:49:39,990 --> 00:49:42,266
"This is Maneater, by Hall & Oates."

653
00:49:46,670 --> 00:49:50,140
He did the entire song, too.
So we have that recorded.

654
00:49:52,550 --> 00:49:56,703
"Invade a neighboring country, impose
your own ideology," that was all Sacha.

655
00:49:59,670 --> 00:50:04,267
I love this little bit here
with Julien embracing Melman's head.

656
00:50:07,310 --> 00:50:09,301
And ignoring him at the same time.

657
00:50:21,950 --> 00:50:23,429
We had so much flamingo trouble.

658
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:26,263
We used to have many flamingos.
They were hot pink.

659
00:50:26,350 --> 00:50:29,149
- It was very distracting.
- Your eye kept going to it.

660
00:50:29,230 --> 00:50:33,588
So we had to make Julien
and Maurice forefront.

661
00:50:35,470 --> 00:50:38,189
- This is a really beautiful shot.
- Yeah.

662
00:50:39,030 --> 00:50:42,944
And this one looks exactly like
the color key that was painted.

663
00:50:43,310 --> 00:50:45,950
One of those scenes where
you see the original color key,

664
00:50:46,030 --> 00:50:49,625
and it turned out exactly
how the art team envisioned it.

665
00:50:49,710 --> 00:50:52,828
That's what's great
about the art department, is we...

666
00:50:53,350 --> 00:50:56,308
All these key scenes and shots,
they do paintings of...

667
00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:58,904
Very elaborate paintings
that set the mood and lighting

668
00:50:58,990 --> 00:51:02,346
that the CG artists then try and emulate.

669
00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:07,702
These scenes, like before,
talking about each character

670
00:51:07,790 --> 00:51:10,225
could have their own movie.
I always feel like Cedric...

671
00:51:12,390 --> 00:51:14,825
He's a great partner for Julien.

672
00:51:14,910 --> 00:51:16,070
He's clearly the smarter one,

673
00:51:16,150 --> 00:51:19,780
but he loves to get into whatever
Julien's into at the moment.

674
00:51:20,710 --> 00:51:24,340
Cedric's great. You go, "Want to sing?"
He's like, "Yeah! I'll sing."

675
00:51:26,430 --> 00:51:28,068
Did some great stuff in here.

676
00:51:36,150 --> 00:51:39,347
Again, will.I.am,
creating a song for the scene.

677
00:51:42,150 --> 00:51:46,383
This choreography is also derived
from African dances

678
00:51:47,110 --> 00:51:49,306
Yeko pulled together for us.

679
00:51:50,270 --> 00:51:54,104
We started this without the
choreography, originally, in animation,

680
00:51:54,190 --> 00:51:58,661
and it just wasn't feeling right.
So we brought a choreographer in,

681
00:51:58,750 --> 00:52:01,503
and it made it feel more African.

682
00:52:01,590 --> 00:52:05,470
Right.
They had a very traditional waltz there.

683
00:52:07,510 --> 00:52:10,104
Through no fault of their own,
that's how we were directing them.

684
00:52:10,190 --> 00:52:12,909
It didn't feel right as we were
seeing the scenes animated.

685
00:52:12,990 --> 00:52:17,143
We stopped, brought the choreographer
in, and she did a great job.

686
00:52:17,230 --> 00:52:19,346
Denis and his team did a great job
in this sequence.

687
00:52:20,950 --> 00:52:24,944
More moving camera. This is something
we weren't able to do on the first,

688
00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:28,819
because we couldn't render
these elaborate camera shots.

689
00:52:28,910 --> 00:52:31,629
This is just another example

690
00:52:31,710 --> 00:52:33,621
of how technology
has improved so much

691
00:52:33,710 --> 00:52:37,101
and enabled us to let the camera

692
00:52:37,190 --> 00:52:39,227
be choreographed
as well as the characters.

693
00:52:39,310 --> 00:52:42,746
The layout team, lead by Nol Meyer,
they're really excited to be able

694
00:52:42,830 --> 00:52:46,380
to move that camera around a lot more
than they could on previous films.

695
00:52:47,950 --> 00:52:51,181
This is...
Also, in this sequence, at different times

696
00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:53,910
we have Moto Moto animated.

697
00:52:54,390 --> 00:52:59,669
And I think he came across slightly
more aggressive than what we wanted.

698
00:52:59,750 --> 00:53:02,663
- Seedy?
- Yeah. We started testing him.

699
00:53:02,750 --> 00:53:04,821
People weren't responding well
to the character.

700
00:53:04,910 --> 00:53:08,790
We went back and looked at every
scene Moto Moto was in and said,

701
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:11,384
"Are we pushing him
in a slightly seedier way?"

702
00:53:11,470 --> 00:53:14,986
We went back in.
I guess we adjusted five or six shots...

703
00:53:15,070 --> 00:53:17,346
- We dumbed him up.
- We dumbed him up.

704
00:53:17,510 --> 00:53:20,423
He played so much better the next time.
It was amazing.

705
00:53:20,510 --> 00:53:22,945
In those few moments
where we changed him,

706
00:53:23,030 --> 00:53:25,783
the difference it could make
to his overall character.

707
00:53:25,870 --> 00:53:28,259
He comes across
like Joey from Friends now.

708
00:53:29,510 --> 00:53:31,820
At the time, he was
coming across more macho,

709
00:53:31,910 --> 00:53:34,629
and not quite as dumb,
and certainly not as sweet.

710
00:53:34,710 --> 00:53:39,068
- Making Gloria seem more victimized.
- Fine-tuning.

711
00:53:39,150 --> 00:53:42,108
We had a love story with Melman
and Gloria in the first movie

712
00:53:42,190 --> 00:53:44,784
that we tried to play
so many different ways,

713
00:53:44,910 --> 00:53:47,982
but ultimately we could never
fit it into the film.

714
00:53:48,070 --> 00:53:53,383
So when we had the chance
to do the sequel here,

715
00:53:53,470 --> 00:53:58,909
we found a way to put it in.
It's such a great component of the film.

716
00:53:59,110 --> 00:54:02,660
And works with the theme
of just being who you are,

717
00:54:02,750 --> 00:54:06,539
whatever the rest of the world
might expect you to be.

718
00:54:06,630 --> 00:54:09,463
In the first movie we had boarded...

719
00:54:09,550 --> 00:54:12,668
They did a dance to...
It was like the Dirty Dancing?

720
00:54:12,750 --> 00:54:16,584
Yeah. And then Gloria had a baby.

721
00:54:16,990 --> 00:54:19,425
She had been at the breeding
program. She had a baby.

722
00:54:19,510 --> 00:54:21,387
Water broke,
penguins were washed away.

723
00:54:21,470 --> 00:54:24,064
- My favourite.
- It got around and round,

724
00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:27,222
and we had forgotten to tell Jada

725
00:54:27,310 --> 00:54:29,620
that her character
was no longer pregnant.

726
00:54:29,710 --> 00:54:33,465
When we were doing the EPK at the
end of the movie, she mentioned it.

727
00:54:33,550 --> 00:54:35,746
And Mireille had to update her.

728
00:54:35,830 --> 00:54:38,982
That is a sweet speech you wrote
for Melman there.

729
00:54:39,070 --> 00:54:41,425
I really believe he loves her,
it's so sweet.

730
00:54:46,870 --> 00:54:50,386
If you look closely, you'll see
Makunga's face drawn on that nest.

731
00:54:50,470 --> 00:54:52,859
It's moving around so much,
it's hard to catch.

732
00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:55,829
But, again,
one of those things we put in,

733
00:54:55,910 --> 00:54:58,265
and sometimes it's hard
to read in the movie.

734
00:54:58,350 --> 00:55:02,867
Another huge challenge, to get all
these birds to do the right thing here.

735
00:55:06,590 --> 00:55:08,581
And go back into their nest.

736
00:55:14,750 --> 00:55:19,426
This is a plot point that we started with,
about the watering hole,

737
00:55:19,510 --> 00:55:21,387
a crisis at the watering hole.

738
00:55:21,470 --> 00:55:24,588
When we went to Africa,
there was a big drought.

739
00:55:24,670 --> 00:55:28,425
It confirmed in our minds
that this is a legitimate crisis

740
00:55:28,510 --> 00:55:29,886
that could happen to these animals.

741
00:55:29,910 --> 00:55:33,426
The importance of it. We see herds
of animals searching for the water.

742
00:55:39,790 --> 00:55:43,101
There was one tiny watering hole
near one place that we visited.

743
00:55:43,190 --> 00:55:47,423
Elephants just stood there
24 hours a day and guarded it

744
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:49,467
so they could have it to themselves.

745
00:55:59,710 --> 00:56:02,099
- Little squeak toy.
- Yeah.

746
00:56:02,190 --> 00:56:05,660
It's amazing, with these crowds,
they're cycles of animation

747
00:56:05,750 --> 00:56:10,142
that are cleverly designed
so that the characters can actually

748
00:56:10,750 --> 00:56:12,502
transition from mood to mood.

749
00:56:12,590 --> 00:56:16,948
When we'd speak with the crowd
animators of what we needed here,

750
00:56:17,030 --> 00:56:20,546
it'd be like "confused chatter" to
"confused, worried looking"

751
00:56:20,630 --> 00:56:24,669
to "confused silence" to...

752
00:56:25,030 --> 00:56:27,829
They do a great job
of keeping animals alive,

753
00:56:27,950 --> 00:56:30,988
making them feel independent
of each other,

754
00:56:31,070 --> 00:56:33,300
but still being able to emote.

755
00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:37,746
We were talking, before, about
the different villains we had for the film.

756
00:56:37,830 --> 00:56:41,710
At one point,
we had Alec Baldwin, early on,

757
00:56:41,830 --> 00:56:43,406
playing a completely different character.

758
00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:48,903
He was playing himself in Africa,
hiding out from the PETA folks.

759
00:56:49,230 --> 00:56:51,983
He was tired of PETA...

760
00:56:52,070 --> 00:56:54,664
I think he got a PETA plaque
in the mail for his hard work,

761
00:56:54,750 --> 00:56:57,105
and he used it for skeet shooting.

762
00:56:57,230 --> 00:57:00,268
He recruited help to build
his hunting lodge with actors.

763
00:57:00,350 --> 00:57:04,184
- It was an acting school.
- He tricked actors to build this...

764
00:57:04,270 --> 00:57:09,140
Saying it was an acting school.
What was the line about the carpenter?

765
00:57:09,230 --> 00:57:13,428
Yeah, they're building his lodge,
complaining about having to build.

766
00:57:13,750 --> 00:57:14,979
"When do we start acting?"

767
00:57:15,070 --> 00:57:20,349
He goes, "Suppose you had to play
the part of a carpenter or a painter.

768
00:57:20,430 --> 00:57:21,500
"You'll be well prepared."

769
00:57:24,750 --> 00:57:27,663
That character went away,
and, fortunately, we were able

770
00:57:27,750 --> 00:57:33,746
to re-pitch the Makunga character
to Alec. He was perfect for that.

771
00:57:34,630 --> 00:57:39,147
Just in case anyone wants to know,
there's 4,231 zebras in that shot.

772
00:57:39,270 --> 00:57:41,341
- But we asked for 8,000.
- I know.

773
00:57:41,430 --> 00:57:45,424
Also, sound-wise,
with all these zebras chattering,

774
00:57:45,510 --> 00:57:49,788
the Skywalker folks had actually
taken the dialog

775
00:57:49,870 --> 00:57:52,066
from Chris behind the mic,
when just talking to him,

776
00:57:52,150 --> 00:57:55,939
and they used anything they could
to fill out the sounds

777
00:57:56,030 --> 00:57:58,783
of thousands of zebras.

778
00:57:59,830 --> 00:58:01,950
So if you listen closely,
there might be Chris talking

779
00:58:02,030 --> 00:58:04,067
about his Kill the Messenger tour, or

780
00:58:06,270 --> 00:58:07,590
if he could have a water.

781
00:58:08,950 --> 00:58:13,820
We had a version where Alex
doesn't recognise Marty in the crowd,

782
00:58:13,910 --> 00:58:16,584
and just gives such
an emotional heartfelt speech

783
00:58:16,670 --> 00:58:18,229
that Marty comes out.

784
00:58:18,350 --> 00:58:19,988
One of the executives, Bill Damaschke,

785
00:58:20,070 --> 00:58:24,462
thought it'd be more powerful
if Alex actually recognised Marty.

786
00:58:24,550 --> 00:58:26,700
We tried it and we all agreed.

787
00:58:26,990 --> 00:58:30,665
Marty's turned the other way,
so Alex, technically,

788
00:58:30,750 --> 00:58:36,428
is able to pick him out
with the butt-bite mark on his butt.

789
00:58:37,470 --> 00:58:40,588
At one point, we even did that gag
at the end of the film here,

790
00:58:40,670 --> 00:58:43,583
where as they're walking off
to the jungle, we see Alex take a peek

791
00:58:43,710 --> 00:58:46,543
at Marty's butt to make sure
he's got the right zebra.

792
00:58:47,110 --> 00:58:49,340
In a way,
it undermined the moment here.

793
00:58:49,430 --> 00:58:53,708
We wanted to just make it
up and positive and heartfelt,

794
00:58:53,790 --> 00:58:55,622
as these two guys go upriver.

795
00:58:55,710 --> 00:58:59,146
Later, we get the gag in at the end
of the film, where we realise,

796
00:58:59,230 --> 00:59:01,699
"He saw the butt mark."

797
00:59:01,790 --> 00:59:04,430
So if you have a big-screen TV
or Blu-ray,

798
00:59:04,510 --> 00:59:09,220
you'll see, as Marty's walking off,
he doesn't have his bite mark.

799
00:59:09,390 --> 00:59:12,667
It would be confusing here,
but later they magically appear.

800
00:59:15,710 --> 00:59:21,069
This is another example of where
the computer world will generate

801
00:59:21,150 --> 00:59:24,381
so much of the set and light it.

802
00:59:25,230 --> 00:59:28,382
But it can't do everything.
There's too much data.

803
00:59:28,470 --> 00:59:32,941
So these really talented matte painters
really kind of

804
00:59:33,030 --> 00:59:37,627
extend the set off into the horizon,
or the clouds, if they have to.

805
00:59:37,750 --> 00:59:40,708
They add to where the set ends up.

806
00:59:44,830 --> 00:59:47,185
Sometimes Michael Collery
and his team

807
00:59:47,270 --> 00:59:50,342
would take a matte painting
and break it into levels

808
00:59:50,430 --> 00:59:52,819
so we could do a camera move on it

809
00:59:52,910 --> 00:59:56,540
and get a little bit of parallax,
even though there's not 3D elements.

810
00:59:56,630 --> 01:00:01,261
And make the leaves move
within the paintings or clouds.

811
01:00:09,510 --> 01:00:11,865
Chris Rock... We showed him the scene
and he thought

812
01:00:11,950 --> 01:00:15,386
it'd be funny if all the zebras
were into Alex's hat.

813
01:00:15,590 --> 01:00:18,867
We jumped in the booth
and recorded all these hat lines.

814
01:00:18,950 --> 01:00:21,624
Probably the last few weeks
of animation.

815
01:00:27,630 --> 01:00:30,702
Notice he's on top of an elephant now.

816
01:00:30,790 --> 01:00:33,464
Because he's getting
more powerful in Africa.

817
01:00:36,310 --> 01:00:39,746
This was an animator's idea,
that he'd lose his staff here.

818
01:00:46,190 --> 01:00:49,581
Which, in our minds, some dik-dik
retrieved and gave to him.

819
01:00:50,350 --> 01:00:52,626
This is a great beat
that Sacha came up with.

820
01:00:52,710 --> 01:00:56,146
He should have an argument with
himself. He came up with it on the fly.

821
01:00:56,230 --> 01:00:58,346
It lasted about 10 minutes.

822
01:00:58,470 --> 01:01:03,340
Unfortunately, we did have to
cut it down to keep the story moving.

823
01:01:15,550 --> 01:01:20,420
Again, with production design,
they took a lot of leaves off the trees

824
01:01:20,510 --> 01:01:22,228
to make it feel drier.

825
01:01:22,350 --> 01:01:26,821
They added dust and atmospherics
to make it feel drier.

826
01:01:27,270 --> 01:01:30,467
There's hardly any clouds in the sky.

827
01:01:30,550 --> 01:01:34,384
Everything is desaturated
to sell the dryness of it.

828
01:01:41,270 --> 01:01:44,740
We went through this with King Julien,
same thing we did with Moto Moto.

829
01:01:44,830 --> 01:01:47,868
Walking that line
of not wanting to feel like a jerk

830
01:01:47,950 --> 01:01:50,863
because he's gonna sacrifice an animal.

831
01:01:50,950 --> 01:01:53,385
So just going through
and making him sweet.

832
01:01:53,750 --> 01:01:57,141
He used to call everyone "twit"
and "nincompoop" and seemed a little...

833
01:02:07,150 --> 01:02:10,939
This was a huge challenge for the
crowds. All running, chasing and...

834
01:02:15,230 --> 01:02:18,746
I was thinking of the music,
how themes are done different ways.

835
01:02:19,910 --> 01:02:22,743
In the... With King Julien,

836
01:02:22,830 --> 01:02:26,425
I remember being so surprised
when Hans did Move it, Move it

837
01:02:26,510 --> 01:02:29,980
in an orchestral version.

838
01:02:30,070 --> 01:02:32,710
But it sounds beautiful.
The song that's like...

839
01:02:32,790 --> 01:02:34,861
I've got kids. I'm sick of that song.

840
01:02:34,950 --> 01:02:37,703
But when I hear Hans' version of it,
it's so beautiful.

841
01:02:38,710 --> 01:02:43,739
All the animals here used to be
chanting, "Sacrifice, sacrifice!"

842
01:02:43,910 --> 01:02:46,060
It just felt kind of dark.

843
01:02:46,150 --> 01:02:49,666
Then we changed it
to celebrating Melman.

844
01:02:49,790 --> 01:02:53,226
But the lip sync is still "sacrifice,"
if you look closely.

845
01:03:06,390 --> 01:03:08,686
These are one of the scenes you write
and you overwrite them,

846
01:03:08,710 --> 01:03:10,462
and they're two pages long.

847
01:03:10,550 --> 01:03:15,101
When you boil it down, there's only a
couple of key lines that sell the point.

848
01:03:24,630 --> 01:03:27,748
We always loved this scene, too,
with Makunga coming here.

849
01:03:27,870 --> 01:03:32,740
So we kept having to change the ending
of the watering-hole scene,

850
01:03:32,830 --> 01:03:35,902
when it dries up, to make sure
we could motivate him coming.

851
01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:39,585
But it was like
how to keep that connected.

852
01:03:45,710 --> 01:03:47,781
Sean Mahoney did this shot here.

853
01:03:47,870 --> 01:03:50,749
Great tribute to Alec
and his expressions.

854
01:03:57,230 --> 01:04:00,461
This was a Baldwin ad-lib. Funny.

855
01:04:06,590 --> 01:04:10,299
Now, we come to the jungle. Very
different than jungles in Madagascar,

856
01:04:10,990 --> 01:04:15,427
which were very colorful,
filled with beautiful foliage.

857
01:04:16,110 --> 01:04:18,147
This is the scary jungle.

858
01:04:20,670 --> 01:04:23,867
It's difficult, within the story,
to try and find variety

859
01:04:23,950 --> 01:04:28,228
within the landscapes to...
This is all set in Africa, and...

860
01:04:31,030 --> 01:04:34,307
The art department did a fantastic job
of making you feel

861
01:04:34,390 --> 01:04:38,748
like you come to a new, dynamic area
with its own feel and mood

862
01:04:38,830 --> 01:04:42,425
and not get environment fatigue.

863
01:04:42,510 --> 01:04:44,740
I love that Alex still has his hat.

864
01:04:44,910 --> 01:04:47,823
He's left, and he still insists
on wearing the Hat of Shame.

865
01:04:47,950 --> 01:04:51,068
- The wilted, stage three hat.
- Stage three.

866
01:04:53,270 --> 01:04:54,624
Here, we used to have this scene

867
01:04:54,710 --> 01:04:57,702
where Nana showed them
how to hunt with her purse,

868
01:04:57,790 --> 01:05:00,543
and she was beating up a straw zebra.

869
01:05:04,110 --> 01:05:06,784
She was just thrashing it
and thrashing it.

870
01:05:06,910 --> 01:05:11,381
She's funnier when she's more benign.
It made this reaction even funnier.

871
01:05:11,470 --> 01:05:15,987
This is a reaction
to her bashing the zebra.

872
01:05:16,070 --> 01:05:19,745
Only when she's provoked
is she violent.

873
01:05:25,150 --> 01:05:27,539
They're doing all these maneuvers
to escape spears,

874
01:05:27,630 --> 01:05:31,225
and Ben and Chris were just
making up their own maneuvers,

875
01:05:31,310 --> 01:05:35,781
- the Squiggly Squid and...
- Etch A Sketch is my favourite.

876
01:05:36,270 --> 01:05:40,264
- Is it in The In-Laws?
- The Serpentine.

877
01:05:40,550 --> 01:05:44,509
Serpentine. It started with
an homage to The In-Laws.

878
01:05:44,630 --> 01:05:46,223
They took it to a new level.

879
01:05:53,030 --> 01:05:56,625
This was a tricky scene as well.
They used to be chanting "jump."

880
01:05:56,710 --> 01:05:59,987
It's a very dark-looking scene.

881
01:06:00,430 --> 01:06:04,264
And Melman's about to kill himself.

882
01:06:04,350 --> 01:06:07,468
So, again, musically, with Hans,

883
01:06:07,550 --> 01:06:13,023
they made it more a celebration of
Melman, which kind of made it more...

884
01:06:13,110 --> 01:06:14,145
Less dark.

885
01:06:15,070 --> 01:06:19,064
For a long time, we were gonna use
songs here. Didn't we have...

886
01:06:19,150 --> 01:06:21,346
- Jump.
- By The Pointer Sisters.

887
01:06:21,430 --> 01:06:24,548
- We had The Ohio Players doing Fire.
- Fire.

888
01:06:24,670 --> 01:06:27,822
- Hans shot down Van Halen.
- Hans just refused.

889
01:06:28,550 --> 01:06:30,109
"We're not even gonna do that."

890
01:06:30,190 --> 01:06:34,104
This witch-doctor scene, which is Eric,
used to be at the end of the movie.

891
01:06:34,190 --> 01:06:38,343
It just felt like such an add-on
that we decided to put it in here,

892
01:06:38,430 --> 01:06:42,344
- which meant more.
- Now, we realise he's not dying.

893
01:06:42,430 --> 01:06:45,343
The last thing we want him to do,
obviously, is throw himself in.

894
01:06:49,390 --> 01:06:53,224
There's that pull-out shot,
and the crowds were Justin's group.

895
01:06:53,630 --> 01:06:55,223
He just really went to town.

896
01:06:55,310 --> 01:06:57,870
This was a big challenge
for all the departments.

897
01:07:00,190 --> 01:07:03,421
The way this rock breaks away here...

898
01:07:03,510 --> 01:07:05,183
All that's done by hand.

899
01:07:07,950 --> 01:07:11,864
Every crack is pre-scored into the rock
so they can pull it apart.

900
01:07:19,830 --> 01:07:22,709
- That was a Schwimmer add.
- Really helps.

901
01:07:28,670 --> 01:07:31,059
We thought it'd be funny
if Melman was dressed as the bride,

902
01:07:31,150 --> 01:07:34,825
and Gloria's more the groom.

903
01:07:35,790 --> 01:07:39,624
So he has this little bridal veil
and orchids and...

904
01:07:39,710 --> 01:07:41,383
It's kind of a reversal.

905
01:07:43,830 --> 01:07:45,389
His lashes seem to go with it.

906
01:07:50,390 --> 01:07:51,983
It's amazing what these actors do.

907
01:07:52,070 --> 01:07:55,950
We go into a studio with
just a microphone and nothing else.

908
01:07:56,030 --> 01:07:58,101
We describe the sequence to them

909
01:07:58,190 --> 01:08:01,342
and they imagine all this stuff
going on around them.

910
01:08:01,990 --> 01:08:03,663
For Schwimmer,
he picked up on the fact

911
01:08:03,750 --> 01:08:05,582
that Gloria's holding him by the horn.

912
01:08:06,710 --> 01:08:09,179
Thinking about that,
how would Melman respond?

913
01:08:09,270 --> 01:08:11,181
It comes out of his imagination.

914
01:08:14,590 --> 01:08:16,866
This scene we had
with the monkeys striking...

915
01:08:16,990 --> 01:08:21,188
It was before the big Hollywood strikes,

916
01:08:21,270 --> 01:08:24,820
the Writers Guild or the Actors Guild.

917
01:08:24,950 --> 01:08:27,669
Probably a year before those happened.

918
01:08:27,750 --> 01:08:31,903
We worried if we could keep those in,
in good taste.

919
01:08:33,910 --> 01:08:37,187
- Hopefully, the actors won't...
- Yeah.

920
01:08:37,270 --> 01:08:39,227
But yeah, discussions of all the strikes.

921
01:08:44,950 --> 01:08:49,387
This last photo used to have Skipper's
tongue on the hula doll's cheek.

922
01:08:49,470 --> 01:08:52,781
- But it looked a little bit too much.
- We had to tone it down.

923
01:08:57,070 --> 01:09:01,906
I love this first reveal of the
new plane as it's coming together.

924
01:09:01,990 --> 01:09:06,905
We did so much work on the different
stages of the plane. Alex did them all.

925
01:09:06,990 --> 01:09:10,301
In the movie, you get glimpses of it,
but a lot of work went into it.

926
01:09:11,550 --> 01:09:14,827
We didn't want to reveal the plane
completely, which was the trick of it.

927
01:09:14,910 --> 01:09:20,030
To save it for the third act.
For the big moment, the climax.

928
01:09:24,070 --> 01:09:27,779
This sequence looks beautiful,
and it's one of the sequences...

929
01:09:27,870 --> 01:09:31,864
Often, what happens on these movies
is towards the end, you run out of time

930
01:09:31,950 --> 01:09:35,625
to get them finished and give less time
to some departments.

931
01:09:35,710 --> 01:09:40,102
The lighting department had, probably,
half the time they're used to.

932
01:09:40,190 --> 01:09:43,740
They somehow pull out beautiful
images, and you can't tell at all.

933
01:09:43,870 --> 01:09:45,986
They always pull it together at the end.

934
01:09:58,790 --> 01:10:01,942
These are the Stage 3 tourists
that are created.

935
01:10:02,030 --> 01:10:06,547
- All dirty and torn up.
- Lord of the Flies tourists.

936
01:10:06,630 --> 01:10:11,067
The Alex performance used to be
more of a pastiche act,

937
01:10:11,190 --> 01:10:14,820
where it had a little bit of everything,
not just dancing. It had mime,

938
01:10:14,910 --> 01:10:19,461
as Eric called it, the "mimax."
And other bits.

939
01:10:19,550 --> 01:10:23,020
But the dance worked so well.
Then the music just

940
01:10:23,110 --> 01:10:25,989
pulled it all together,
that Hans and Will created.

941
01:10:26,070 --> 01:10:29,108
You think about what the animators
added to this, 'cause it was...

942
01:10:29,190 --> 01:10:33,309
It would be funny and it got laughs,
but when it got animated,

943
01:10:33,390 --> 01:10:36,462
- it just completely got big laughs.
- Yeah.

944
01:10:36,590 --> 01:10:40,299
It really was one of those scenes
where it was never gonna work

945
01:10:40,390 --> 01:10:42,745
- until it was completely done.
- It became,

946
01:10:42,830 --> 01:10:46,903
- "Who knows how to do The Worm?"
- We actually had people who knew.

947
01:10:47,030 --> 01:10:49,943
- "Are there any poppers in the house?"
- All the poppers came.

948
01:10:51,350 --> 01:10:53,102
Funny. A talented group.

949
01:11:01,150 --> 01:11:05,781
But, early on, this was always...
In the early versions of the story,

950
01:11:05,910 --> 01:11:12,145
in different forms, Alex would save he
and his father with some performance.

951
01:11:14,430 --> 01:11:18,822
We're back to the butterfly
that we saw little Alex doing at the start.

952
01:11:22,950 --> 01:11:25,066
I love how the father's
just off-kilter here.

953
01:11:25,150 --> 01:11:26,926
As he gets in the air,
he's doing a great job,

954
01:11:26,950 --> 01:11:29,180
but no, no, no! Panic.

955
01:11:29,270 --> 01:11:30,340
Faceplant.

956
01:11:36,830 --> 01:11:40,869
We never explain why all these African
tourists happen to be from New York.

957
01:11:41,590 --> 01:11:43,706
A happy accident.

958
01:11:43,790 --> 01:11:47,146
Some effects artists,
instead of ricocheting off the barrel,

959
01:11:47,230 --> 01:11:50,825
had Alex getting shot
and blood pouring out of him.

960
01:11:50,910 --> 01:11:53,220
And put it up for us
to review at one point.

961
01:11:53,310 --> 01:11:56,223
- It kind of worked, in a way.
- It was pretty funny.

962
01:12:00,230 --> 01:12:02,983
We were happy to get a barrel
of monkeys into this movie.

963
01:12:03,670 --> 01:12:06,310
We started with that idea
and constructed the movie around it.

964
01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:11,587
We went around and around
with these telephone lines.

965
01:12:14,750 --> 01:12:17,026
What would happen. The lines change.

966
01:12:17,110 --> 01:12:21,502
So we had to keep finding twisted
versions of lines going up the chain.

967
01:12:21,670 --> 01:12:23,263
You can't hear everything

968
01:12:23,350 --> 01:12:26,741
that Skywalker did
with the sound with this plane.

969
01:12:26,830 --> 01:12:30,266
They did amazing stuff where they took
old engines and opened them up

970
01:12:30,350 --> 01:12:32,227
and dropped microphones into them

971
01:12:32,310 --> 01:12:36,508
and hand-cranked them
to get the sound of gears meshing.

972
01:12:36,590 --> 01:12:39,025
It's really cool stuff they came up with.

973
01:12:39,110 --> 01:12:42,819
Of course, there's music and dialog
that covers a lot of it.

974
01:12:42,910 --> 01:12:46,744
We used to have Walking on Sunshine
be the music in here as a joke.

975
01:12:46,830 --> 01:12:49,106
No one seemed to get the joke.

976
01:12:49,550 --> 01:12:53,783
Hans and his guys were
trying all these different songs.

977
01:12:53,870 --> 01:12:57,864
- They hit on Copacabana, which is...
- Perfect.

978
01:12:58,030 --> 01:13:00,544
- And Lola got her name.
- Lola got her name.

979
01:13:03,590 --> 01:13:06,469
That's what I love about Lola,
it makes it so absurd.

980
01:13:06,550 --> 01:13:07,620
It was absurd before,

981
01:13:07,710 --> 01:13:10,099
and when we added Lola,
it became even more absurd.

982
01:13:17,390 --> 01:13:19,222
She's so determined.

983
01:13:19,710 --> 01:13:23,829
Throws a gun, got her magic bag. She's
gonna take that plane out with her bag.

984
01:13:23,910 --> 01:13:26,584
That was Mireille's joke,
the medic and the tape.

985
01:13:32,590 --> 01:13:36,060
This is probably the biggest effects
shot, one they were excited to get.

986
01:13:36,150 --> 01:13:39,142
- The breaking water.
- Cost hundreds of dollars.

987
01:13:39,270 --> 01:13:43,309
Hundreds.
We had to have a collection for that.

988
01:13:47,470 --> 01:13:48,983
We had a different version of this.

989
01:13:49,070 --> 01:13:51,710
Sacha saw it,
and thought he could do better.

990
01:13:51,790 --> 01:13:54,259
This brought the whistling back around.

991
01:13:54,350 --> 01:13:56,626
- And...
- Reanimated it.

992
01:13:56,710 --> 01:14:01,546
Reanimate it, yeah.
John Hill and his team.

993
01:14:02,110 --> 01:14:05,182
We had explored having lots
of cutaways to Mort and this shark

994
01:14:05,270 --> 01:14:07,420
traveling through
the African landscape.

995
01:14:07,670 --> 01:14:10,708
It just became too much film for us.

996
01:14:12,030 --> 01:14:15,739
A bus?
Didn't he hijack a bus at some point?

997
01:14:15,830 --> 01:14:19,266
There it was, the only death
in the movie. The shark.

998
01:14:22,030 --> 01:14:24,226
The gods needed a sacrifice.

999
01:14:28,630 --> 01:14:33,500
Usually, animated films kill off parents.
We just killed off a shark.

1000
01:14:33,590 --> 01:14:35,979
Another beat.
We had lots of, "You did it. I did.

1001
01:14:36,070 --> 01:14:38,380
"I did it 50%. You did it 60%."

1002
01:14:39,030 --> 01:14:41,260
Great Sacha beat
that went on for about five minutes.

1003
01:14:41,350 --> 01:14:42,943
"The eagle has landed."

1004
01:14:43,230 --> 01:14:45,221
We used about one second of it
in the end.

1005
01:14:50,870 --> 01:14:52,986
Now the fish. It's gonna be okay.

1006
01:14:55,270 --> 01:14:58,467
We went around and around
on how to take care of Makunga here.

1007
01:14:58,550 --> 01:15:00,746
We had a version
where Zuba took him out,

1008
01:15:00,830 --> 01:15:03,663
where Alex took him out
with a dance kick.

1009
01:15:05,590 --> 01:15:11,302
We thought it would kind of
make closure to Nana's story

1010
01:15:11,390 --> 01:15:14,382
- if she was the one who took him out.
- Less expected.

1011
01:15:14,470 --> 01:15:15,585
Yeah.

1012
01:15:16,630 --> 01:15:19,827
We were gonna have a beat,
later on at the end of the credits,

1013
01:15:19,910 --> 01:15:25,303
where Nana would be back in New York,
and she'd see tourists come in

1014
01:15:25,390 --> 01:15:29,145
to JFK, and there's Makunga
in a cat carrier.

1015
01:15:32,710 --> 01:15:34,860
I like their expressions in that shot.

1016
01:15:37,430 --> 01:15:40,627
This is a great bit.
Just pitching the scene to Alec,

1017
01:15:40,710 --> 01:15:43,224
saying, "Alex hands you a purse."

1018
01:15:44,030 --> 01:15:49,708
He thought he should really admire it,
and ad-libbed this hiking line.

1019
01:15:53,870 --> 01:15:57,306
We had to make the bag with an
adjustable strap because he said that.

1020
01:15:58,070 --> 01:16:00,584
- We liked it so much.
- We had to change it.

1021
01:16:04,910 --> 01:16:09,381
This scene actually went on about
three times as long as it ended up.

1022
01:16:10,950 --> 01:16:15,148
It felt a little brutal.
She did a lot more to him than just that.

1023
01:16:15,230 --> 01:16:17,870
We had fun thinking
of all the Catholic-schoolboy things

1024
01:16:17,950 --> 01:16:19,748
the nuns used to do to you at school.

1025
01:16:19,830 --> 01:16:21,343
We had a list of all those things.

1026
01:16:21,430 --> 01:16:24,786
Our board artists love those challenges.

1027
01:16:43,310 --> 01:16:47,065
Again, we were... The animals,
we wanted them to get in the water.

1028
01:16:47,150 --> 01:16:49,380
Water's really expensive,
so you can't touch it.

1029
01:16:50,670 --> 01:16:53,549
Because it's a great deal
of effects work there.

1030
01:16:53,630 --> 01:16:57,464
At the end, they said... They made
an effort to make that happen,

1031
01:16:57,550 --> 01:16:59,223
that the animals could go in the water.

1032
01:17:09,790 --> 01:17:12,828
- Our little misdirect here.
- Yeah.

1033
01:17:12,910 --> 01:17:16,665
I always liked, "For better, please."
Like there's a choice.

1034
01:17:17,750 --> 01:17:20,708
Tom's always wanted to marry
a hula doll, so this was his dream.

1035
01:17:20,790 --> 01:17:24,306
- Closest thing he could achieve to it.
- Yep.

1036
01:17:28,710 --> 01:17:31,623
I also like that we have eight-track
tape players in this movie.

1037
01:17:31,710 --> 01:17:36,500
Kids'll see that, "What's that new music
technology? I gotta get one of those."

1038
01:17:42,630 --> 01:17:45,349
I love the idea of the penguins
being in Monte Carlo.

1039
01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:55,460
This is one of the last scenes
we recorded with Bernie, too.

1040
01:17:55,550 --> 01:17:58,986
There was a couple of lines
we didn't get with him

1041
01:17:59,070 --> 01:18:00,822
before he passed, unfortunately.

1042
01:18:00,950 --> 01:18:05,581
We reviewed a lot of the material
he'd done, sequences that were cut,

1043
01:18:05,670 --> 01:18:07,946
and it was great listening
to all that again.

1044
01:18:08,030 --> 01:18:10,419
Just brought back
many great memories of him.

1045
01:18:10,510 --> 01:18:11,739
He did this little bit.

1046
01:18:11,830 --> 01:18:16,666
Eric found this bit
with him doing a little song and dance.

1047
01:18:18,550 --> 01:18:21,349
"I got you, son!"
This bit here, which was great.

1048
01:18:21,470 --> 01:18:25,065
It worked better
than any line we would've written.

1049
01:18:34,030 --> 01:18:37,466
These are the last shots
that were done in the film.

1050
01:18:37,550 --> 01:18:41,259
It's rare in a film,
where that would ever happen.

1051
01:18:41,350 --> 01:18:42,943
You jump around so much.

1052
01:18:44,990 --> 01:18:46,901
There's our little butt bite.

1053
01:18:50,550 --> 01:18:52,029
Off they go.

1054
01:18:52,990 --> 01:18:56,142
We always joked about...
Eric wanted to have the butterfly

1055
01:18:56,230 --> 01:18:58,460
come in here at the end,
at the beginning.

1056
01:18:58,590 --> 01:19:00,706
Thought it'd be funny to see it,
then go to another

1057
01:19:00,790 --> 01:19:04,545
lion father playing with his cub.
It was all the butterfly's fault.

1058
01:19:07,270 --> 01:19:09,307
Just to try and do something interesting.

1059
01:19:10,750 --> 01:19:13,583
Producers brought on Jamie Caliri
at Duck Studios

1060
01:19:13,670 --> 01:19:15,707
to create something unique
for the credits.

1061
01:19:15,790 --> 01:19:17,781
So they're not just a scroll.

1062
01:19:18,350 --> 01:19:21,308
It was fun to have
something completely different,

1063
01:19:21,390 --> 01:19:24,826
as far away from 3D as we could.
He did a great job.

1064
01:19:24,950 --> 01:19:28,864
These are actually practical
paper sculptures that they did.

1065
01:19:28,950 --> 01:19:30,782
Just absolutely beautiful.

1066
01:19:33,270 --> 01:19:38,504
And we opted to put the credits here,
which the cast was great about.

1067
01:19:38,630 --> 01:19:41,748
So we could just get right
into our story, right away,

1068
01:19:41,830 --> 01:19:44,106
and not have a big intro.

1069
01:19:47,710 --> 01:19:50,145
When you watch these credits,

1070
01:19:50,670 --> 01:19:53,059
it's a huge long list, they may be boring,

1071
01:19:53,150 --> 01:19:54,526
but these are the people we work with,

1072
01:19:54,550 --> 01:19:56,621
who we represent
when we make movies.

1073
01:19:56,710 --> 01:20:01,864
There's 400-plus people at the studio,
and artists that pitch in

1074
01:20:01,950 --> 01:20:03,827
to make these movies.

1075
01:20:05,990 --> 01:20:10,029
So really enjoy the credits and know
that everyone had a great deal

1076
01:20:10,110 --> 01:20:11,862
to do with this movie.

1077
01:20:20,630 --> 01:20:23,030
Thanks, everybody. Three and a half
years to make this movie.

1078
01:20:23,110 --> 01:20:26,626
An incredible timeline.
It was made with a lot of grit,

1079
01:20:26,710 --> 01:20:31,580
- spit and a whole lot of duct tape.
- Lot of laughs and love.

1080
01:20:31,670 --> 01:20:34,139
- And tears.
- And tears. And blood.

1081
01:20:34,270 --> 01:20:36,989
- And blood.
- We hope you enjoy it.

