1 00:00:28,758 --> 00:00:30,635 I found a phone. 2 00:00:31,594 --> 00:00:34,347 It looks like it's from 1967, but I think it will work. 3 00:00:34,514 --> 00:00:36,391 Just a second, Jimmy. 4 00:00:36,683 --> 00:00:38,935 Excellent. Thank you for being so careful. 5 00:00:39,102 --> 00:00:41,938 - Sir, we have to get in your attic. - For what? 6 00:00:42,147 --> 00:00:43,273 The hookup. 7 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:45,942 - That's all right. Don't bother. - Only take 20 minutes. 8 00:00:46,109 --> 00:00:49,529 - You can't use it if I don't do it. - No, it's all right. We're not gonna. 9 00:00:49,696 --> 00:00:52,532 When you're done, would you get some more lamps in the garage? 10 00:00:53,283 --> 00:00:54,576 Thanks. 11 00:00:55,243 --> 00:00:56,619 - So you got a phone. - Yeah. 12 00:00:56,786 --> 00:00:59,914 Yard's half-mowed. Sockets and stuff are looking A-okay. 13 00:01:00,081 --> 00:01:02,292 I'm gonna check again just to make sure. 14 00:01:02,459 --> 00:01:05,412 - We're almost there. - Good, good. 15 00:01:06,212 --> 00:01:09,799 What do you think? On? Off? 16 00:01:10,008 --> 00:01:12,594 I think off. 17 00:01:12,761 --> 00:01:13,845 Yeah. You're right. 18 00:01:14,053 --> 00:01:15,388 Off, it is. 19 00:01:15,555 --> 00:01:18,516 Chuck, are you sure this is the right play? 20 00:01:18,683 --> 00:01:19,934 I mean, in my experience... 21 00:01:20,101 --> 00:01:22,604 the bigger the lie, the harder it can be to dig out. 22 00:01:24,147 --> 00:01:26,775 I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. 23 00:01:30,236 --> 00:01:32,530 Hey, guys, think we're set with the lamps. 24 00:01:32,697 --> 00:01:35,074 Can someone give me a hand with this phone? 25 00:02:50,942 --> 00:02:52,569 It's open. 26 00:03:00,743 --> 00:03:01,911 Rebecca. 27 00:03:02,412 --> 00:03:04,330 - Chuck. - You look lovely. 28 00:03:04,497 --> 00:03:06,416 - Oh, it's so good to see you. - And you. 29 00:03:07,041 --> 00:03:10,545 - You look... - Hey, what's with the candles? 30 00:03:10,753 --> 00:03:13,506 - Why are you sitting in the dark? - Wondering the same thing. 31 00:03:13,673 --> 00:03:16,050 Oh, my God. The afternoon I've had. 32 00:03:16,926 --> 00:03:18,845 Two hours ago, I take the sea bass out. 33 00:03:19,012 --> 00:03:22,432 No sooner is it prepped and resting then, boom... 34 00:03:22,599 --> 00:03:24,142 power goes down. 35 00:03:24,309 --> 00:03:25,768 I get on the phone to the city. 36 00:03:26,436 --> 00:03:31,024 To make a long story short, those bozos at PNM mixed up my payment. 37 00:03:31,190 --> 00:03:35,570 The deadbeat at 512 San Cristobal hasn't been paying his bills. 38 00:03:35,778 --> 00:03:38,448 - And of course, I'm 215. - 215. 39 00:03:38,615 --> 00:03:39,582 Exactly. 40 00:03:39,949 --> 00:03:42,076 They say they'll have it on again by tomorrow. 41 00:03:42,285 --> 00:03:45,580 In the meantime, I borrowed some camping gear from my neighbours. 42 00:03:45,747 --> 00:03:47,123 Hence, the rustic flair. 43 00:03:48,374 --> 00:03:50,543 - Jeez. So, what do we do? - Oh, yeah. 44 00:03:50,710 --> 00:03:52,337 Get out and go to a restaurant? 45 00:03:52,962 --> 00:03:55,256 We could hit Seasons. Your treat. 46 00:03:55,757 --> 00:03:57,592 We could. Yeah. 47 00:03:57,759 --> 00:04:00,929 But, you know, dinner's almost ready. And the fish... 48 00:04:01,095 --> 00:04:04,140 would've had to throw it out. Just have to toss it in the pan. 49 00:04:04,349 --> 00:04:06,351 How about we just rough it? 50 00:04:06,517 --> 00:04:08,378 Are you okay with that? 51 00:04:09,145 --> 00:04:10,563 Well... 52 00:04:10,730 --> 00:04:15,068 Why not? It'll be fun. We'll do an haute-cuisine campout. 53 00:04:15,234 --> 00:04:17,195 Great, then it's settled. Let me take that. 54 00:04:17,403 --> 00:04:19,864 - Take your coat. - Oh, yeah. Here. Thank you. 55 00:04:25,286 --> 00:04:26,454 Oh, my God. 56 00:04:26,621 --> 00:04:27,914 I can't eat another bite. 57 00:04:31,084 --> 00:04:32,126 Cheers. 58 00:04:32,293 --> 00:04:34,312 To the Galloping Gourmet. 59 00:04:35,213 --> 00:04:36,039 Yeah. 60 00:04:38,967 --> 00:04:42,387 - The Calvados is perfect. - You always liked it. 61 00:04:42,971 --> 00:04:45,098 Here... 62 00:04:45,306 --> 00:04:46,474 - Let me get this. - No, no. 63 00:04:46,641 --> 00:04:49,519 - You don't have to. - The least I can do is the dishes. 64 00:04:49,686 --> 00:04:51,270 Thank you. 65 00:04:51,688 --> 00:04:53,272 Thanks, Jimmy. 66 00:04:56,442 --> 00:04:59,270 This turned out better than I thought. 67 00:04:59,779 --> 00:05:02,031 I'm so sorry about the lights. 68 00:05:02,198 --> 00:05:05,076 Oh, it's nice. Atmospheric. 69 00:05:05,284 --> 00:05:09,038 I mean, I still can't get over Jimmy being a lawyer. 70 00:05:09,247 --> 00:05:12,959 Neither can I. He's got his own shingle out and everything. 71 00:05:13,167 --> 00:05:16,754 I mean, a real, responsible citizen. I mean, who would've thought? 72 00:05:23,136 --> 00:05:24,470 This place is the same. 73 00:05:24,637 --> 00:05:26,848 I mean, I would've thought you'd... 74 00:05:28,766 --> 00:05:31,477 change things up, move things around. 75 00:05:31,644 --> 00:05:34,647 You've got great taste, and if it ain't broke... 76 00:05:35,648 --> 00:05:37,442 - How's the tour going? - It's good. 77 00:05:37,650 --> 00:05:40,111 Good. The Far East this fall. 78 00:05:40,278 --> 00:05:43,531 China, South Korea and Vietnam. That's gonna be exciting. 79 00:05:43,740 --> 00:05:47,201 - Yeah. - And then, after Santa Fe this week... 80 00:05:47,368 --> 00:05:49,537 - we're back to Central Europe. - And it's good? 81 00:05:49,704 --> 00:05:51,122 Well, it's a lot of hotels. 82 00:05:51,330 --> 00:05:52,331 I mean, in Budapest... 83 00:05:52,498 --> 00:05:56,002 I think I saw mostly the inside of a concert hall and the Marriot. 84 00:05:56,878 --> 00:05:59,172 But, you know, I shouldn't complain. 85 00:05:59,338 --> 00:06:01,632 You're not complaining. You're observing. 86 00:06:05,845 --> 00:06:07,513 Did you finally get to see Salzburg? 87 00:06:07,722 --> 00:06:10,349 Not yet, but next month after Vienna. 88 00:06:10,516 --> 00:06:13,144 Do you remember when we tried to go to Salzburg? 89 00:06:13,311 --> 00:06:15,396 And that crazy old lady on the scooter... 90 00:06:15,605 --> 00:06:18,107 - Oh, yes. Yes. - Chased us out of the train station. 91 00:06:18,316 --> 00:06:19,650 Yeah, and then... 92 00:06:19,817 --> 00:06:21,069 And then we went and got... 93 00:06:21,235 --> 00:06:25,031 It was a raspberry Linzer torte in Innsbruck... 94 00:06:25,490 --> 00:06:27,366 to make ourselves feel better. 95 00:06:27,533 --> 00:06:30,078 - You said, we'll never finish this. - And then we did. 96 00:06:33,581 --> 00:06:36,334 So what's after Asia? Any plans for stateside? 97 00:06:36,834 --> 00:06:39,712 Oh, you know, hopefully next year. You know, maybe a residency. 98 00:06:39,921 --> 00:06:41,089 That would be sweet. 99 00:06:41,255 --> 00:06:44,050 I mean, you know, I like the buses and trains and flying... 100 00:06:44,258 --> 00:06:45,511 but I... 101 00:06:46,928 --> 00:06:50,765 I miss having one... One place to hang my hat. 102 00:06:56,354 --> 00:06:58,606 Oh, God. 103 00:06:58,773 --> 00:07:00,900 I'm sorry. I... I hate that thing. 104 00:07:01,109 --> 00:07:02,485 I feel like I'm on a leash. 105 00:07:05,154 --> 00:07:07,198 I'm sorry. 106 00:07:09,951 --> 00:07:12,870 Oh, it's my conductor. I have to take this. 107 00:07:13,037 --> 00:07:14,831 I'm sorry. 108 00:07:14,997 --> 00:07:16,541 Hi, Andre. 109 00:07:16,707 --> 00:07:19,043 No, I'm just at dinner. What's up? 110 00:07:19,544 --> 00:07:23,089 Well, I could do that at rehearsal. Yeah, no problem. Yeah. 111 00:07:23,256 --> 00:07:27,009 No, I know that they're coming in late on bar 16. 112 00:07:27,218 --> 00:07:31,681 Yeah. Got it. Got it. I will make sure that... 113 00:07:31,889 --> 00:07:34,517 Can you hold on one second? Let me just get a pen. 114 00:07:36,978 --> 00:07:39,272 Yeah, no, I... I... 115 00:07:39,897 --> 00:07:41,232 Yeah, hold on one second. 116 00:07:41,649 --> 00:07:44,352 Yeah, we could do it whenever you need. 117 00:07:44,819 --> 00:07:46,404 Okay. All right, shoot. 118 00:07:47,905 --> 00:07:49,532 Okay. Haydn. 119 00:07:49,824 --> 00:07:51,909 Okay... 120 00:07:52,118 --> 00:07:54,495 - Chuck. - I'm all right. 121 00:07:54,704 --> 00:07:57,790 Well, do you want me to rehearse the cellos separately? 122 00:07:58,082 --> 00:07:59,125 Rebecca. Rebecca. 123 00:08:00,835 --> 00:08:01,836 Just one minute. 124 00:08:02,044 --> 00:08:05,298 Well, no. It's not just him. It's the whole section, actually. 125 00:08:05,464 --> 00:08:08,634 - Rebecca. - Yeah, yeah. No. 126 00:08:08,843 --> 00:08:11,762 That's fine. Yeah. 127 00:08:11,929 --> 00:08:13,389 Chuck, what the hell? 128 00:08:16,976 --> 00:08:18,102 Andre? 129 00:08:18,436 --> 00:08:21,731 I'll have to call you back. I'm sorry. 130 00:08:24,150 --> 00:08:25,443 What is your problem? 131 00:08:28,821 --> 00:08:30,698 Say something. 132 00:08:34,702 --> 00:08:39,957 It is incredibly bad manners to answer a cell phone in company. 133 00:08:40,166 --> 00:08:41,709 It's very rude. 134 00:08:41,918 --> 00:08:46,339 I... I'm sorry. I... 135 00:08:46,505 --> 00:08:48,007 I didn't know you felt that way. 136 00:08:48,174 --> 00:08:50,426 I didn't mean to offend you, Chuck. 137 00:08:52,011 --> 00:08:54,388 I may have overreacted. That was very abrupt. 138 00:08:54,597 --> 00:08:57,558 No. I understand. 139 00:09:01,771 --> 00:09:02,813 It's getting late. 140 00:09:03,564 --> 00:09:07,526 Thank you for a lovely dinner, but I should be getting back to the hotel. 141 00:09:07,693 --> 00:09:09,278 Just give me a minute and we can... 142 00:09:09,445 --> 00:09:12,448 No. I'll just get a cab. I don't want to put you out anymore. 143 00:09:12,657 --> 00:09:14,283 - Please, let me. - No, really. 144 00:09:14,867 --> 00:09:17,245 A cab is the easiest. 145 00:09:18,746 --> 00:09:22,124 You gotta do something. You can't let her leave like this. 146 00:09:22,291 --> 00:09:24,252 - Just tell her what's going on. - No. 147 00:09:24,460 --> 00:09:26,504 She'll understand. 148 00:09:26,671 --> 00:09:30,258 Would you rather she think you're a raging prick than know the truth? 149 00:09:30,424 --> 00:09:31,801 No. 150 00:09:31,968 --> 00:09:33,886 Look, if you won't tell her, then I will. 151 00:09:34,095 --> 00:09:37,556 No, no, no. You will not tell her. 152 00:09:38,140 --> 00:09:41,185 You will not tell her. 153 00:09:42,270 --> 00:09:43,729 All right. 154 00:09:44,397 --> 00:09:48,442 Hi, Andre. Yes. Oh, I'm sorry about that. I dropped the phone. 155 00:10:22,601 --> 00:10:24,061 Jesus, what are you doing, man? 156 00:10:24,228 --> 00:10:27,189 There's barely any oxygen in that bag. You're suffocating her. 157 00:10:27,356 --> 00:10:28,357 Her? 158 00:10:28,524 --> 00:10:30,526 Just because you don't see swinging dicks... 159 00:10:30,693 --> 00:10:33,529 doesn't mean you can't tell a boy fish from a girl fish. 160 00:10:34,238 --> 00:10:36,991 Oh, yeah. See. Now I can see the lipstick. 161 00:10:37,199 --> 00:10:38,951 This is a living creature. 162 00:10:39,118 --> 00:10:40,578 It's not a piece of furniture. 163 00:10:40,745 --> 00:10:43,789 So after this, you take her home, you put her in a big bowl. 164 00:10:43,956 --> 00:10:46,959 At least a gallon. Get a good bubbler. 165 00:10:47,126 --> 00:10:48,461 Maybe a plecostomus. 166 00:10:48,669 --> 00:10:51,422 And don't feed her too much. People get fat. 167 00:10:51,589 --> 00:10:55,301 - Fish, they drown in leftover food. - All right already, Jacques Cousteau. 168 00:10:55,801 --> 00:10:58,554 - Point made. - Good. 169 00:11:01,474 --> 00:11:05,603 I'm guessing our friend didn't refer you to me to get ichthyological advice. 170 00:11:07,271 --> 00:11:09,857 I'm looking for someone with a light touch. 171 00:11:10,024 --> 00:11:13,694 I'm not talking some teenager taking a five-finger discount of string cheese... 172 00:11:13,861 --> 00:11:15,905 at the Stop & Shop. I need... 173 00:11:16,113 --> 00:11:19,658 highly skilled, high-end, discreet. 174 00:11:19,825 --> 00:11:20,910 A real pro. 175 00:11:22,078 --> 00:11:23,788 You gotta fit him in a tight space? 176 00:11:25,081 --> 00:11:26,916 I don't think so. 177 00:11:28,834 --> 00:11:31,087 I got just the guy then. 178 00:11:43,015 --> 00:11:46,435 That's what... That's what happens. It was just a bad swing. 179 00:11:46,602 --> 00:11:48,729 It's gonna get better. 180 00:11:48,896 --> 00:11:51,065 That's why I say golfing is a contact sport. 181 00:11:53,484 --> 00:11:56,278 Great job, Ms Wexler. Very refreshing. 182 00:11:56,445 --> 00:11:59,198 Believe me, we're happy to get this one off the docket. 183 00:11:59,365 --> 00:12:00,950 Not as happy as we are. 184 00:12:01,117 --> 00:12:03,786 - Again, great job. - Thank you. Thank you, sir. 185 00:12:08,457 --> 00:12:09,959 Ladies... 186 00:12:10,126 --> 00:12:12,044 dinner's on me. 187 00:12:12,211 --> 00:12:15,172 Kim, I knew you were good, but I didn't know you were this good. 188 00:12:15,339 --> 00:12:18,300 - I'm glad you're happy. - We couldn't have done it without you... 189 00:12:18,467 --> 00:12:21,846 and I hope you realise this means a whole lot of work coming your way. 190 00:12:22,012 --> 00:12:24,932 Well, that's... That's great. 191 00:12:25,724 --> 00:12:27,977 Well, you don't sound like it's great. 192 00:12:29,353 --> 00:12:31,772 Hate to be a buzzkill. There's something you need to hear... 193 00:12:31,939 --> 00:12:33,649 before we get any deeper in. 194 00:12:33,858 --> 00:12:35,526 It's about your former attorney... 195 00:12:35,693 --> 00:12:38,279 - Charles McGill. - What about him? 196 00:12:38,446 --> 00:12:43,409 Charles has been making some very ugly allegations about his brother, Jimmy... 197 00:12:43,576 --> 00:12:45,828 with whom I happen to share an office space. 198 00:12:45,995 --> 00:12:48,998 Allegations of what? 199 00:12:50,166 --> 00:12:55,129 Charles thinks Jimmy took control of your documents while working on them. 200 00:12:55,296 --> 00:12:58,174 He believes Jimmy transposed the address numbers. 201 00:12:58,340 --> 00:13:00,676 Transposed the numbers? 202 00:13:00,843 --> 00:13:03,179 How would he even do that? 203 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,683 Charles contends Jimmy took documents pertaining to the Rosella branch... 204 00:13:07,850 --> 00:13:10,478 and while Charles was indisposed... 205 00:13:10,644 --> 00:13:12,605 photocopied and doctored them. 206 00:13:12,813 --> 00:13:15,191 That's pretty baroque. 207 00:13:16,192 --> 00:13:19,737 The important thing here is I think it could make some noise in public. 208 00:13:19,904 --> 00:13:22,907 Soon. I wanted to tell you this in the spirit of full disclosure. 209 00:13:23,073 --> 00:13:25,743 I thought it was better if you heard it from me. 210 00:13:27,828 --> 00:13:30,581 If you have any reservations at this point... 211 00:13:30,748 --> 00:13:35,961 or if you are not comfortable staying with me, we can discuss options. 212 00:13:41,383 --> 00:13:43,177 If there's one thing I cannot abide... 213 00:13:43,344 --> 00:13:45,971 it's a man who won't own up to his mistakes. 214 00:13:46,138 --> 00:13:51,268 Now whatever mud McGill is slinging is not gonna screw me out of the best... 215 00:13:51,435 --> 00:13:54,188 outside counsel I've ever had. 216 00:13:55,981 --> 00:13:57,358 That's... 217 00:13:57,525 --> 00:14:00,194 - I'm so glad to hear that. - We appreciate the heads-up... 218 00:14:00,361 --> 00:14:04,031 but you can call this baby put to bed. Now the most important thing, dinner. 219 00:14:04,198 --> 00:14:05,574 Seven good for you? 220 00:14:05,741 --> 00:14:07,493 - Works for me. - Great. 221 00:14:07,660 --> 00:14:08,911 We'll talk strategy. 222 00:14:09,078 --> 00:14:11,747 We move on to Colorado or Utah first. 223 00:14:11,914 --> 00:14:13,040 See you at 7. 224 00:14:14,083 --> 00:14:15,709 This McGill thing... 225 00:14:15,876 --> 00:14:19,213 you're sure it's not gonna be a problem? 226 00:14:19,838 --> 00:14:21,340 I am. 227 00:14:21,507 --> 00:14:24,510 Mesa Verde isn't involved in any way, shape or form. 228 00:14:26,011 --> 00:14:28,347 Okay. Good. 229 00:14:28,639 --> 00:14:29,890 Then I'll see you tonight. 230 00:14:30,099 --> 00:14:32,601 Okay, great. See you then. 231 00:14:49,243 --> 00:14:50,494 Okay, this is it. 232 00:14:50,661 --> 00:14:53,247 We can run without lights and mikes. 233 00:14:53,414 --> 00:14:56,250 We'll collect cell phones and hold them for your testimony. 234 00:14:56,458 --> 00:14:57,876 The court reporter... 235 00:14:58,043 --> 00:15:01,463 would it be possible to move him or her farther from the witness stand? 236 00:15:01,630 --> 00:15:05,175 Yeah, I think we can arrange having them in the back of the court. 237 00:15:06,010 --> 00:15:09,471 I'm sorry. There's nothing I could do about the exit signs. It's code. 238 00:15:09,638 --> 00:15:12,474 I appreciate all you're doing. Thank you. 239 00:15:14,143 --> 00:15:17,980 Mr Alley, I wonder if you could give us a moment. I'd like to go over something. 240 00:15:18,188 --> 00:15:20,691 No problem. I'll be outside when you're ready. 241 00:15:22,026 --> 00:15:23,652 Howard. 242 00:15:24,945 --> 00:15:26,322 How are you feeling, Chuck? 243 00:15:27,531 --> 00:15:28,657 I'll muddle through. 244 00:15:28,824 --> 00:15:30,576 Because this is a lot to ask. 245 00:15:30,743 --> 00:15:33,454 And if you're not up to it, just throwing this out there. 246 00:15:33,621 --> 00:15:36,081 - Maybe you don't need to testify at all. - No. I do. 247 00:15:36,248 --> 00:15:40,085 I'm the only person who can adequately explain the context of that tape. 248 00:15:40,252 --> 00:15:42,129 Or the defence will tear it to shreds. 249 00:15:42,796 --> 00:15:45,591 It's already a solid case. We have Jimmy's statement... 250 00:15:45,758 --> 00:15:50,429 from the Pre-Prosecution Diversion, my testimony and the private eye's. 251 00:15:50,596 --> 00:15:53,932 Maybe there's no need to put you through the ringer like this. 252 00:15:54,099 --> 00:15:55,517 This isn't about me... 253 00:15:55,684 --> 00:15:56,935 or my health. 254 00:15:57,102 --> 00:15:58,854 This is about PR. 255 00:15:59,647 --> 00:16:01,482 We lost a client. 256 00:16:01,982 --> 00:16:05,861 That happened because while you were incapacitated... 257 00:16:06,028 --> 00:16:09,823 your brother accessed documents that should have been secured at HHM. 258 00:16:10,908 --> 00:16:13,994 What Jimmy did is unconscionable, yes... 259 00:16:14,161 --> 00:16:17,206 but one of my jobs is to safeguard the firm's reputation. 260 00:16:17,873 --> 00:16:20,376 This is not the time to worry about how we look. 261 00:16:20,542 --> 00:16:23,379 This is about what's right and what's wrong. 262 00:16:23,545 --> 00:16:26,507 I'm not gonna risk Jimmy getting, what, a year of suspension? 263 00:16:27,216 --> 00:16:28,592 Maybe two? 264 00:16:28,759 --> 00:16:30,386 He deserves disbarment. 265 00:16:30,552 --> 00:16:32,054 Not some slap on the wrist. 266 00:16:32,721 --> 00:16:36,308 No, Howard, there's only one way forward. 267 00:16:37,101 --> 00:16:40,604 Let justice be done though the heavens fall. 268 00:16:42,481 --> 00:16:45,109 Sorry to keep you waiting. This will do nicely. 269 00:16:45,275 --> 00:16:47,945 Extend my thanks to the committee for their flexibility. 270 00:16:50,614 --> 00:16:53,742 Good morning. I'm Robert Alley for the State Bar. 271 00:16:53,951 --> 00:16:55,911 In the matter of James M. McGill... 272 00:16:56,078 --> 00:17:00,749 the State Bar intends to prove the following violations of the ethical code. 273 00:17:00,916 --> 00:17:06,547 16-102, engaging in conduct the lawyer knows is criminal. 274 00:17:06,755 --> 00:17:11,343 Mr McGill knew that breaking down his brother's door was criminal behaviour. 275 00:17:11,552 --> 00:17:15,764 16-804, committing a criminal act... 276 00:17:15,931 --> 00:17:18,350 that reflects adversely on the lawyer's honesty... 277 00:17:18,517 --> 00:17:21,311 or trustworthiness as a lawyer. 278 00:17:21,895 --> 00:17:24,481 Any reasonable person would agree assaulting a lawyer... 279 00:17:24,648 --> 00:17:29,570 in his own home reflects badly on Mr McGill's fitness as an attorney. 280 00:17:31,196 --> 00:17:35,534 16-304, unlawfully altering, destroying... 281 00:17:35,701 --> 00:17:39,830 or concealing material having potential evidentiary value. 282 00:17:39,997 --> 00:17:43,834 Mr McGill broke into his brother's home and destroyed an audio cassette... 283 00:17:44,001 --> 00:17:47,087 which contained a recording of a conversation between himself... 284 00:17:47,254 --> 00:17:49,548 and his brother, Charles McGill. 285 00:17:49,715 --> 00:17:53,469 We will show this recording was evidence on an ongoing legal case. 286 00:17:54,678 --> 00:17:57,723 The State Bar believes that once we have presented the facts... 287 00:17:57,890 --> 00:18:02,686 the committee will agree that disbarment is warranted for James McGill. 288 00:18:03,312 --> 00:18:04,396 Thank you very much. 289 00:18:05,981 --> 00:18:07,858 Thank you, Mr Alley. 290 00:18:08,025 --> 00:18:09,610 Ms Wexler. 291 00:18:14,656 --> 00:18:16,575 Thank you, Mr Chairman. 292 00:18:17,326 --> 00:18:18,494 Good morning. 293 00:18:18,660 --> 00:18:22,206 I'm Kim Wexler, co-counsel with James McGill, for the defence. 294 00:18:22,414 --> 00:18:26,043 You've already read Mr McGill's Pre-Prosecution Statement. 295 00:18:26,210 --> 00:18:28,754 We don't dispute he broke into his brother's house. 296 00:18:28,962 --> 00:18:31,381 An act he regrets... 297 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,342 deeply. 298 00:18:33,509 --> 00:18:35,427 But there is another side to this story. 299 00:18:35,928 --> 00:18:38,680 One not about calculation... 300 00:18:38,847 --> 00:18:41,642 or ill intent. 301 00:18:41,809 --> 00:18:44,228 But about two brothers... 302 00:18:44,394 --> 00:18:48,065 whose relationship after years of strain... 303 00:18:48,565 --> 00:18:50,317 finally broke. 304 00:18:51,944 --> 00:18:54,822 We believe that after you have the complete picture... 305 00:18:54,988 --> 00:18:59,284 you'll understand James McGill is an asset to our legal community. 306 00:18:59,451 --> 00:19:03,121 And he should remain a full member of it in good standing. 307 00:19:04,289 --> 00:19:05,582 Thank you. 308 00:19:07,417 --> 00:19:09,294 Thank you, Ms Wexler. 309 00:19:12,798 --> 00:19:16,134 Okay. If everyone's ready to... 310 00:19:16,301 --> 00:19:18,387 begin testimony. 311 00:19:18,554 --> 00:19:20,347 Mr Alley, call your witness. 312 00:19:20,514 --> 00:19:23,684 Bang, bang, bang. Then he kicked down the door. 313 00:19:23,892 --> 00:19:26,395 Jimmy was very agitated. He was shouting. 314 00:19:26,562 --> 00:19:29,439 He demanded Charles turn over the evidence he... 315 00:19:29,606 --> 00:19:33,151 Objection. We haven't established the tape is evidence of anything. 316 00:19:33,318 --> 00:19:36,071 The defence has only acknowledged it is a piece of property. 317 00:19:36,238 --> 00:19:37,990 Allow me to rephrase. 318 00:19:38,907 --> 00:19:42,244 Jimmy demanded an audio cassette in Charles' possession... 319 00:19:42,411 --> 00:19:46,582 which Jimmy proceeded, with the help of an iron fireplace implement... 320 00:19:46,748 --> 00:19:48,792 to pry from Charles' desk. 321 00:19:48,959 --> 00:19:52,880 He then broke the cassette into pieces and went on to confront his brother. 322 00:19:53,046 --> 00:19:56,091 What happened after the defendant smashed this tape? 323 00:19:56,258 --> 00:19:58,969 - Mr Brightbill and I... - That's the private investigator... 324 00:19:59,136 --> 00:20:01,346 - that Charles hired? - That's correct. 325 00:20:01,513 --> 00:20:05,517 He and I were concerned that Jimmy might strike his brother. 326 00:20:05,684 --> 00:20:07,102 So that's when we stepped in. 327 00:20:07,269 --> 00:20:08,854 - Thank you, Mr Hamlin. - Certainly. 328 00:20:09,021 --> 00:20:10,355 Nothing further at this time. 329 00:20:10,564 --> 00:20:12,524 Ms Wexler. 330 00:20:14,026 --> 00:20:15,652 Thank you, Mr Chairman. 331 00:20:23,452 --> 00:20:27,372 You testified you've known my client for some time. 332 00:20:27,539 --> 00:20:28,874 How long exactly? 333 00:20:29,082 --> 00:20:30,959 Nearly 10 years. 334 00:20:31,126 --> 00:20:33,128 How did you come to know him? 335 00:20:33,295 --> 00:20:35,964 His brother asked to hire him in the mailroom at our firm. 336 00:20:36,173 --> 00:20:38,133 - And you did? - Yes. 337 00:20:38,717 --> 00:20:40,427 What was your opinion of him then? 338 00:20:42,179 --> 00:20:43,805 I thought... 339 00:20:45,515 --> 00:20:47,601 he had a lot of get up and go. 340 00:20:47,809 --> 00:20:51,229 - He was a hard worker. - You had a nickname for him, didn't you? 341 00:20:52,356 --> 00:20:53,482 Charlie Hustle. 342 00:20:53,649 --> 00:20:55,442 Charlie Hustle? 343 00:20:55,609 --> 00:20:58,111 How'd you feel when you found out he'd become a lawyer? 344 00:20:58,278 --> 00:21:00,739 Surprised. He had put himself through law school... 345 00:21:00,948 --> 00:21:03,784 and taken the bar exam without telling any of the partners. 346 00:21:03,951 --> 00:21:05,077 Even Charles. 347 00:21:05,285 --> 00:21:09,122 He bootstrapped his way into a law degree while working in your mailroom. 348 00:21:09,289 --> 00:21:11,625 Did you consider taking him on as an associate? 349 00:21:11,875 --> 00:21:13,168 We did. 350 00:21:13,752 --> 00:21:16,171 - Briefly. - Sounds like you didn't hire him. 351 00:21:16,338 --> 00:21:18,799 Why not? With that kind of grit? 352 00:21:18,966 --> 00:21:22,636 The partners decided it would be best to avoid the appearance of nepotism. 353 00:21:23,512 --> 00:21:26,598 We felt hiring Jimmy might damage morale. 354 00:21:27,349 --> 00:21:29,142 Nepotism. 355 00:21:29,309 --> 00:21:31,603 Your firm is Hamlin Hamlin & McGill, right? 356 00:21:32,437 --> 00:21:34,356 Who's the other Hamlin? 357 00:21:36,650 --> 00:21:38,193 My father. 358 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,076 Which partner was the most concerned with nepotism? 359 00:21:46,284 --> 00:21:48,328 Charles McGill. 360 00:21:48,870 --> 00:21:51,248 - So Jimmy's own brother blocked him? - Objection. 361 00:21:51,415 --> 00:21:54,710 How are the hiring practices of Hamlin Hamlin McGill relevant here? 362 00:21:54,918 --> 00:21:58,588 It's relevant to understand the relationship between these brothers. 363 00:22:00,132 --> 00:22:03,427 We'll give you some leeway, Ms Wexler... 364 00:22:03,593 --> 00:22:06,763 but don't stray. Charles McGill isn't the subject of this hearing. 365 00:22:06,972 --> 00:22:08,557 Thank you. 366 00:22:09,224 --> 00:22:12,644 Did Jimmy know his brother was the one that prevented you from hiring him? 367 00:22:12,811 --> 00:22:15,230 No. He did not. 368 00:22:16,356 --> 00:22:18,775 Eventually, he was hired by the firm of Davis & Main. 369 00:22:18,942 --> 00:22:22,154 I'd be happy to say more about that if you'd like. 370 00:22:22,362 --> 00:22:25,032 No. Thank you. 371 00:22:25,198 --> 00:22:28,577 When Charles' condition appeared, Jimmy took care of him, didn't he? 372 00:22:29,369 --> 00:22:30,871 I believe so. 373 00:22:31,455 --> 00:22:35,917 Jimmy was struggling to build his solo law practice, yet every day, without fail... 374 00:22:36,084 --> 00:22:39,046 he brought his brother food, supplies... 375 00:22:39,212 --> 00:22:41,506 even his favourite newspapers. Isn't that right? 376 00:22:41,673 --> 00:22:42,966 He did. 377 00:22:43,842 --> 00:22:47,304 Could you speak to the terms of Charles' leave of absence? 378 00:22:47,637 --> 00:22:48,805 You know I can't. 379 00:22:48,972 --> 00:22:50,974 It was an FMLA leave. 380 00:22:51,141 --> 00:22:52,934 Anything more is confidential. 381 00:22:53,101 --> 00:22:55,270 You can confirm it was due to mental illness? 382 00:22:55,479 --> 00:22:58,482 Objection. Charles McGill's mental health isn't at issue. 383 00:22:58,648 --> 00:23:02,402 This is a smear job on the State Bar's upcoming witness. Nothing more. 384 00:23:02,569 --> 00:23:04,446 This is not a competency hearing. 385 00:23:04,613 --> 00:23:06,823 Mr Hamlin is not a psychiatric professional. 386 00:23:06,990 --> 00:23:10,702 Do you have any questions that would be more germane to his experience? 387 00:23:11,328 --> 00:23:12,537 No. 388 00:23:13,246 --> 00:23:14,706 I have nothing further. 389 00:23:15,665 --> 00:23:18,210 The witness is excused. 390 00:23:29,387 --> 00:23:32,974 At this time, the State Bar would like to enter Exhibit 5 into evidence. 391 00:23:33,141 --> 00:23:36,561 - We ask Charles' recording be played. - Respectfully renewing my objection. 392 00:23:36,728 --> 00:23:40,107 Probative value of playing this is outweighed by how prejudicial it is. 393 00:23:40,273 --> 00:23:43,902 All due respect, but the State Bar feels this is fundamental to hear. 394 00:23:44,111 --> 00:23:47,239 Don't wanna leave any question as to the intentions of both parties. 395 00:23:47,405 --> 00:23:51,701 We already ruled this was fair game when we denied your motion to suppress. 396 00:23:51,910 --> 00:23:55,247 I'll add, the rough and tumble of your client's conduct aside... 397 00:23:55,413 --> 00:23:57,791 we need to know if one lawyer attempted to tamper... 398 00:23:57,958 --> 00:23:59,751 with another's evidence. 399 00:24:12,222 --> 00:24:13,974 Come here. 400 00:24:14,474 --> 00:24:16,476 - What are you doing here? - Flight's delayed. 401 00:24:16,685 --> 00:24:17,936 How delayed? 402 00:24:18,145 --> 00:24:21,148 - Forty minutes, last I checked. - Shit. 403 00:24:21,314 --> 00:24:24,025 Okay. Keep me posted. 404 00:24:26,903 --> 00:24:28,488 Here we go. 405 00:24:31,449 --> 00:24:34,411 Thank you for your patience. The State Bar is ready to proceed. 406 00:24:34,578 --> 00:24:35,745 I'm begging your pardon. 407 00:24:35,912 --> 00:24:39,291 The defence requests a moment to review, if we could. 408 00:24:41,668 --> 00:24:44,504 All right. When you're ready. 409 00:24:44,671 --> 00:24:46,715 Thank you, Mr Chairman. 410 00:24:53,305 --> 00:24:55,056 What are we doing? 411 00:24:55,307 --> 00:24:57,100 We're stalling. 412 00:24:58,685 --> 00:24:59,895 Yes. 413 00:25:00,061 --> 00:25:03,773 Yes, my brother has many admirable qualities. 414 00:25:03,940 --> 00:25:08,153 In some ways, I can say I admire him. 415 00:25:08,737 --> 00:25:10,363 Too cold. 416 00:25:11,656 --> 00:25:13,700 I love my brother. 417 00:25:14,242 --> 00:25:17,412 But Ted Kaczynski's brother loved him too. 418 00:25:17,579 --> 00:25:19,414 And he wanted to help. 419 00:25:19,581 --> 00:25:22,042 That's sanctimonious. 420 00:25:22,918 --> 00:25:24,753 I love my brother. 421 00:25:24,961 --> 00:25:26,129 He's a good person. 422 00:25:26,296 --> 00:25:27,422 He has good in him. 423 00:25:29,132 --> 00:25:32,385 But the law is too important. 424 00:25:38,308 --> 00:25:40,393 Be right there, Howard. 425 00:25:46,441 --> 00:25:49,277 The law is too important. 426 00:25:51,529 --> 00:25:54,824 I sure as shit wouldn't be telling you otherwise. 427 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:56,743 But yes. 428 00:25:57,327 --> 00:25:58,370 It's the truth. 429 00:25:59,996 --> 00:26:02,332 You'd go to such lengths to humiliate me? 430 00:26:02,499 --> 00:26:04,584 I did it for Kim. 431 00:26:05,126 --> 00:26:07,963 She worked her butt off to get Mesa Verde... 432 00:26:08,129 --> 00:26:12,133 while you and Howard sat around sipping Scotch and chortling. 433 00:26:12,300 --> 00:26:15,262 Hamlin Hamlin McGill. More like Scrooge and Marley. 434 00:26:15,428 --> 00:26:19,683 Kim deserves Mesa Verde. Not you, not HHM. 435 00:26:19,849 --> 00:26:24,062 She earned it, and she needs it. I did it to help her. 436 00:26:24,229 --> 00:26:27,565 But I honestly didn't think it would hurt you so bad. 437 00:26:27,732 --> 00:26:30,235 I thought you'd just say, oh, crap. I made a mistake. 438 00:26:30,402 --> 00:26:32,654 And go on with your life like a normal person. 439 00:26:32,821 --> 00:26:33,989 But, oh, no. 440 00:26:34,155 --> 00:26:35,865 Wishful thinking. 441 00:26:38,451 --> 00:26:40,036 So can I... 442 00:26:40,203 --> 00:26:44,457 tell Howard you're not quitting or retiring or whatever? 443 00:26:46,418 --> 00:26:49,754 And can we take all the shit down off the walls? 444 00:26:51,923 --> 00:26:54,092 I'm gonna go call Howard. 445 00:26:54,259 --> 00:26:55,635 Jimmy. 446 00:26:56,052 --> 00:27:00,056 You do realise you just confessed to a felony? 447 00:27:00,390 --> 00:27:01,933 I guess. 448 00:27:02,225 --> 00:27:04,519 But you feel better, right? 449 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,315 Besides, it's your word against mine. 450 00:27:19,534 --> 00:27:24,372 All right, Mr Alley, we need to make accommodations for your next witness. 451 00:27:24,539 --> 00:27:26,541 - Is that correct? - Yes, Mr Chairman. 452 00:27:26,708 --> 00:27:29,252 All right. For those who don't know... 453 00:27:29,419 --> 00:27:31,212 we need to prepare the room. 454 00:27:31,379 --> 00:27:34,674 The clerk is going to collect your cell phones, watches... 455 00:27:34,883 --> 00:27:36,468 key fobs, anything electrical. 456 00:27:36,634 --> 00:27:41,139 If you prefer not to, please secure your items outside this room. 457 00:27:41,306 --> 00:27:43,433 Thank you for understanding. 458 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,686 - Your phone, sir? - I left it in the car. 459 00:28:35,902 --> 00:28:37,487 - Excuse me. That's yours. - Sorry. 460 00:28:52,460 --> 00:28:54,546 Please raise your right hand. 461 00:28:54,963 --> 00:28:59,259 Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? 462 00:28:59,426 --> 00:29:00,885 I do. 463 00:29:05,557 --> 00:29:06,850 Could you state your name? 464 00:29:07,016 --> 00:29:08,726 Charles L. McGill. 465 00:29:08,893 --> 00:29:13,398 I'm a senior partner at the law firm of Hamlin Hamlin McGill. 466 00:29:13,565 --> 00:29:16,776 - Can the court reporter hear me? - Yes, sir. I can hear you fine. 467 00:29:16,943 --> 00:29:18,820 Mr McGill, I'll try to be brief. 468 00:29:18,987 --> 00:29:22,323 We don't need to dwell on the burglary or the assault that you suffered. 469 00:29:22,490 --> 00:29:23,825 Thank you. I appreciate that. 470 00:29:23,992 --> 00:29:26,161 What I would like to hear about is this tape. 471 00:29:26,327 --> 00:29:27,871 What compelled you to make it? 472 00:29:28,037 --> 00:29:29,164 I had a suspicion... 473 00:29:29,330 --> 00:29:32,500 my brother had tampered with documents in a case I was working on. 474 00:29:32,667 --> 00:29:33,918 Now, why would he do that? 475 00:29:34,085 --> 00:29:38,506 - Doesn't sound particularly brotherly. - I believe his hope was the documents... 476 00:29:38,673 --> 00:29:42,760 would cause the client to become disillusioned with my representation... 477 00:29:42,927 --> 00:29:45,430 and return to their previous attorney, Ms Wexler... 478 00:29:46,222 --> 00:29:49,434 which, I should note, is precisely what happened. 479 00:29:49,601 --> 00:29:50,643 Objection. 480 00:29:50,810 --> 00:29:54,856 I'm not saying Ms Wexler knew what Jimmy was doing or had any involvement. 481 00:29:55,023 --> 00:29:56,733 I'm only stating that it happened. 482 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,236 Did you have evidence to support your suspicions about James? 483 00:30:00,403 --> 00:30:01,738 No. 484 00:30:01,905 --> 00:30:05,325 My brother, whatever else can be said of him, can be quite clever. 485 00:30:05,492 --> 00:30:07,577 Did an excellent job of covering his tracks. 486 00:30:07,744 --> 00:30:11,164 Objection. Witness has admitted there's no corroborating evidence... 487 00:30:11,331 --> 00:30:13,124 the supposed crime even occurred. 488 00:30:13,291 --> 00:30:15,710 I'd like to hear what he has to say. 489 00:30:16,878 --> 00:30:18,379 We're going to continue. 490 00:30:18,546 --> 00:30:22,300 We'll extend you the same latitude on cross, Ms Wexler. 491 00:30:23,092 --> 00:30:24,802 Go on, Mr McGill. 492 00:30:24,969 --> 00:30:27,931 Without physical evidence, I felt that a recorded confession... 493 00:30:28,097 --> 00:30:30,058 if I could get one, was my best bet. 494 00:30:30,725 --> 00:30:33,228 On its own, I knew the tape would be somewhat flimsy... 495 00:30:33,394 --> 00:30:36,898 but it was a start. A foundation for a more ironclad case. 496 00:30:38,024 --> 00:30:41,736 I suppose Jimmy must have felt the tape was decisive evidence on its own. 497 00:30:41,903 --> 00:30:44,113 Or he wouldn't have broke in to destroy it. 498 00:30:44,322 --> 00:30:46,157 Objection. More speculation. 499 00:30:46,324 --> 00:30:48,076 How can he know what's going on in Jimmy's head? 500 00:30:48,284 --> 00:30:51,371 Sustained. We just need to hear what happened, Mr McGill. 501 00:30:51,538 --> 00:30:53,289 I... I apologise. 502 00:30:53,456 --> 00:30:56,334 I recorded my brother to build a case against him. 503 00:30:56,501 --> 00:30:59,629 At the time, would you say you were in possession of your faculties? 504 00:30:59,837 --> 00:31:01,172 All due respect... 505 00:31:01,339 --> 00:31:03,883 but you do sound somewhat unhinged on the recording. 506 00:31:04,050 --> 00:31:05,301 Yes, I understand that. 507 00:31:05,510 --> 00:31:09,013 But what you heard was theatre. A performance. Play-acting. 508 00:31:10,014 --> 00:31:14,477 I exaggerated the symptoms of my disease to extract the truth. 509 00:31:14,686 --> 00:31:16,980 Can we talk about your disease for a moment? 510 00:31:17,146 --> 00:31:19,482 I'd like everybody to be on the same page about it. 511 00:31:19,649 --> 00:31:22,735 Of course. It is sometimes referred to as EHS. 512 00:31:22,902 --> 00:31:24,862 Electromagnetic hypersensitivity. 513 00:31:25,530 --> 00:31:28,866 I describe it as an acute allergy to electromagnetism. 514 00:31:29,450 --> 00:31:31,703 It's not a common condition, is it? 515 00:31:31,869 --> 00:31:34,080 I know it sounds strange. I do. 516 00:31:34,247 --> 00:31:37,333 But 30 years ago, no one had heard of peanut allergies. 517 00:31:37,542 --> 00:31:39,085 But you admit that no one... 518 00:31:39,252 --> 00:31:41,713 No doctor has ever diagnosed you. 519 00:31:41,879 --> 00:31:45,717 AIDS was not identified until 1981. 520 00:31:45,883 --> 00:31:48,720 HIV wasn't known as the cause until '83. 521 00:31:48,886 --> 00:31:52,098 These things take time to unravel, even for doctors. 522 00:31:52,307 --> 00:31:55,518 Would you say that your illness affects your ability to think clearly? 523 00:31:55,685 --> 00:31:57,854 No, it affects me physically. 524 00:31:58,021 --> 00:32:01,190 It causes me great pain. However, I'm perfectly lucid. 525 00:32:01,357 --> 00:32:02,525 Thank you. 526 00:32:02,817 --> 00:32:06,362 Mr McGill, I have only one more question for you. 527 00:32:07,530 --> 00:32:09,449 Do you hate your brother? 528 00:32:11,034 --> 00:32:12,785 Absolutely not. 529 00:32:13,536 --> 00:32:15,455 I love my brother. 530 00:32:15,872 --> 00:32:18,499 There's nothing malicious in Jimmy. 531 00:32:19,584 --> 00:32:24,422 He has a way of doing the worst things for reasons that sound almost noble. 532 00:32:26,257 --> 00:32:30,678 But what I know for sure is that the law is too important to be toyed with. 533 00:32:30,845 --> 00:32:32,513 It's mankind's greatest achievement. 534 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,974 The rule of law, the idea that whoever you are... 535 00:32:35,141 --> 00:32:38,019 your actions have consequences. 536 00:32:38,853 --> 00:32:41,564 And the way my brother treats the law... 537 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,150 it breaks my heart. 538 00:32:44,442 --> 00:32:46,694 That's why I did what I did. Not to hurt him... 539 00:32:46,903 --> 00:32:49,781 but to protect something that I hold sacred. 540 00:32:49,947 --> 00:32:51,783 Thank you, Mr McGill. 541 00:32:51,949 --> 00:32:53,159 The State Bar rests. 542 00:32:57,288 --> 00:33:00,458 I think we need to put on the brakes. 543 00:33:03,169 --> 00:33:05,672 I'm sorry. My co-counsel and I need a moment to confer. 544 00:33:07,298 --> 00:33:08,841 Please be brief, counsellor. 545 00:33:09,050 --> 00:33:11,052 Yes, of course. 546 00:33:13,971 --> 00:33:15,598 She'll be here. 547 00:33:16,140 --> 00:33:18,142 Do you have anything for cross? 548 00:33:18,309 --> 00:33:20,228 Could I look at your notes? 549 00:33:20,395 --> 00:33:23,773 - Yeah, of course. Can you... - Can you read the writing? 550 00:33:23,940 --> 00:33:25,483 Yeah. 551 00:33:41,416 --> 00:33:44,377 Mr Chairman. I'm sorry... 552 00:33:44,544 --> 00:33:47,296 might I have a moment to get a breath? 553 00:33:47,463 --> 00:33:49,590 Well, of course, Mr McGill. 554 00:33:49,882 --> 00:33:52,135 Folks, let's call this 15. 555 00:33:52,301 --> 00:33:56,848 Everybody, please be back and ready to go on the hour. 556 00:34:04,522 --> 00:34:06,524 - Rebecca. - Chuck. 557 00:34:06,733 --> 00:34:10,570 - It's good to see you. - I have to say, I'm a bit surprised. 558 00:34:11,279 --> 00:34:14,073 Did Jimmy subpoena you? You're not on the witness list. 559 00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:17,869 - You don't have to testify. - No, no, no. I'm not here for that. 560 00:34:18,035 --> 00:34:19,954 Well, what then? 561 00:34:20,121 --> 00:34:21,414 Chuck, I wish you'd told me. 562 00:34:23,082 --> 00:34:26,169 I... I can't believe what you've been going through. 563 00:34:26,335 --> 00:34:28,163 How long has it been? 564 00:34:29,547 --> 00:34:31,174 You're here to help... 565 00:34:31,340 --> 00:34:34,218 because all this is so stressful for me. 566 00:34:34,552 --> 00:34:37,430 - Is that what Jimmy told you? - He's worried about you, Chuck. 567 00:34:37,597 --> 00:34:40,600 In spite of everything that's happened between you two, he cares. 568 00:34:40,767 --> 00:34:41,893 What exactly did he say? 569 00:34:42,701 --> 00:34:44,395 Well, that you had been sick. 570 00:34:44,562 --> 00:34:46,105 Allergic to electricity? 571 00:34:46,314 --> 00:34:50,109 He sent pictures of the house. Chuck, my God. 572 00:34:51,319 --> 00:34:52,695 Why didn't you tell me? 573 00:34:53,196 --> 00:34:55,364 I didn't wanna upset you. 574 00:34:55,531 --> 00:34:57,950 Worry you unnecessarily. 575 00:34:58,993 --> 00:35:01,037 But now you're here. 576 00:35:01,204 --> 00:35:03,122 And now you know. 577 00:35:05,166 --> 00:35:07,335 I came because I thought it was the right thing. 578 00:35:07,502 --> 00:35:10,421 I thought, I don't know that you'd want me to. 579 00:35:10,588 --> 00:35:14,050 But I guess that I'm more of a distraction. 580 00:35:14,217 --> 00:35:17,637 So I'm gonna be in town for a few days. 581 00:35:17,804 --> 00:35:20,723 And I would love to spend some time with you. 582 00:35:20,890 --> 00:35:22,558 But right now, I think I should go. 583 00:35:22,725 --> 00:35:25,186 - No, no. Please. I want you to stay. - Really? 584 00:35:25,353 --> 00:35:28,272 - You don't seem happy to see me. - I am. 585 00:35:28,439 --> 00:35:31,192 I'm just surprised. That's all. 586 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,236 Please stay. 587 00:35:33,861 --> 00:35:36,030 - Are you sure? - Yes. I'm sure. 588 00:35:36,864 --> 00:35:39,700 You've been sold a bill of goods, Rebecca. 589 00:35:39,909 --> 00:35:42,245 I want you to see what's what. 590 00:35:51,212 --> 00:35:53,673 She's not what I expected. 591 00:35:55,007 --> 00:35:56,926 Oh, yeah? What'd you expect? 592 00:35:57,093 --> 00:35:58,886 I don't know. Just... 593 00:35:59,846 --> 00:36:01,027 Not her. 594 00:36:05,101 --> 00:36:07,854 You know, she's gonna hate you when this is over. 595 00:36:09,272 --> 00:36:10,773 Yep. 596 00:36:22,118 --> 00:36:25,621 All right. Mr McGill, I'll remind you you're still under oath. 597 00:36:25,788 --> 00:36:27,665 - I understand. - At this time... 598 00:36:27,832 --> 00:36:31,460 I'd like to turn cross-examination over to my co-counsel, James McGill. 599 00:36:39,218 --> 00:36:43,598 There's been a lot of fuss about it, but we never really talked about this tape. 600 00:36:43,806 --> 00:36:48,144 We lost the opportunity when you burglarised my house to destroy it. 601 00:36:48,311 --> 00:36:51,022 Fair enough. And I was in the wrong there... 602 00:36:51,188 --> 00:36:56,569 but still, I'd like to follow your story of why and how you recorded it. 603 00:36:57,069 --> 00:36:59,447 Oh, is this where you claim the tape is spurious? 604 00:36:59,655 --> 00:37:02,742 - That it's not really your voice? - No. That's me on the tape. 605 00:37:03,868 --> 00:37:06,162 Still, I have some questions. Like the recorder... 606 00:37:06,329 --> 00:37:09,332 it must have hurt like hell for you to touch that. 607 00:37:10,374 --> 00:37:12,460 There was a degree of discomfort. That's true. 608 00:37:12,668 --> 00:37:13,961 And where did you hide it? 609 00:37:14,128 --> 00:37:17,298 The sound's pretty clear, so it wasn't in the couch cushions, was it? 610 00:37:17,882 --> 00:37:20,092 Tucked under a space blanket. Out of sight. 611 00:37:21,802 --> 00:37:24,722 So no chance I'd see it, not with the state your place was in. 612 00:37:24,889 --> 00:37:26,432 - Isn't that right? - I suppose. 613 00:37:26,641 --> 00:37:29,518 Would you like to set the scene for the disciplinary committee? 614 00:37:29,685 --> 00:37:32,647 Tell them what your house looked like at the time of recording? 615 00:37:32,855 --> 00:37:35,107 Objection. Relevance? 616 00:37:35,316 --> 00:37:38,569 Well, the circumstances of the recording are materially relevant. 617 00:37:38,736 --> 00:37:40,529 How can you know what the tape means... 618 00:37:40,738 --> 00:37:42,823 unless you know what was going on when it was recorded? 619 00:37:43,032 --> 00:37:45,409 Overruled. The witness can answer the question. 620 00:37:45,576 --> 00:37:49,747 I covered most of the walls with Foil-Scrim Kraft insulation. 621 00:37:49,956 --> 00:37:52,625 I also hung a number of space blankets. 622 00:37:53,668 --> 00:37:55,544 Compact Mylar sheets. 623 00:37:55,711 --> 00:38:00,007 They insulate and protect against mild electromagnetic radiation. 624 00:38:00,716 --> 00:38:02,635 All right, so shiny insulation... 625 00:38:02,802 --> 00:38:05,888 and space blankets all over the walls and ceiling. 626 00:38:06,055 --> 00:38:08,599 It was like being inside of a disco ball. 627 00:38:08,808 --> 00:38:10,434 Do you have a point? 628 00:38:11,227 --> 00:38:13,479 Well, I'm impressed... 629 00:38:13,688 --> 00:38:16,232 by how much work went into entrapping me. 630 00:38:16,399 --> 00:38:17,608 You went all out. 631 00:38:17,817 --> 00:38:18,943 I didn't entrap you. 632 00:38:19,110 --> 00:38:21,612 I provoked an admission in adverse interest. 633 00:38:21,779 --> 00:38:23,364 That's not the same thing. 634 00:38:25,491 --> 00:38:27,618 How did you know it would work? 635 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,328 What do you mean? 636 00:38:29,537 --> 00:38:32,248 How did you know your provocation would work? 637 00:38:32,415 --> 00:38:36,627 Why'd you think a bunch of shiny plastic would make me say anything? 638 00:38:37,795 --> 00:38:42,091 Isn't it because you knew that it was precisely the thing that would worry me... 639 00:38:42,258 --> 00:38:44,844 so much that I'd say anything to talk you down? 640 00:38:45,011 --> 00:38:46,178 Objection. 641 00:38:46,387 --> 00:38:47,930 Okay. Withdrawn. 642 00:38:48,180 --> 00:38:50,933 Let's get back to your house. 643 00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:53,769 Every surface covered in tinfoil. 644 00:38:53,936 --> 00:38:57,189 - Nothing crazy about that, huh? - As I've said... 645 00:38:57,356 --> 00:39:02,820 I was playing up my condition. Usually, it's a perfectly normal house. 646 00:39:03,029 --> 00:39:06,824 You think your house is normal? Can I call your attention to Exhibit 9? 647 00:39:11,829 --> 00:39:13,164 This is your house, right? 648 00:39:13,372 --> 00:39:14,957 Yes. 649 00:39:15,166 --> 00:39:17,376 Exposed wires. 650 00:39:19,128 --> 00:39:20,671 There's a camp stove. 651 00:39:21,881 --> 00:39:25,009 There's a lantern on top of newspapers. 652 00:39:25,176 --> 00:39:26,302 You call this normal? 653 00:39:26,510 --> 00:39:28,721 I call them adaptations. 654 00:39:28,888 --> 00:39:32,016 A prophylactic measure for a physical medical condition. 655 00:39:32,183 --> 00:39:34,268 Did the doctor who granted me guardianship... 656 00:39:34,435 --> 00:39:36,270 think this was a physical condition? 657 00:39:36,479 --> 00:39:39,356 Objection. You can't introduce a TEG as evidence. 658 00:39:39,523 --> 00:39:43,944 Besides, the panel has already ruled Mr McGill's mental health is not at issue. 659 00:39:44,153 --> 00:39:46,572 No, the State Bar opened the door to this on direct... 660 00:39:46,739 --> 00:39:49,408 when the witness talked about his supposed play-acting. 661 00:39:49,617 --> 00:39:52,828 Allowing me to follow up on cross is only reasonable. 662 00:39:53,037 --> 00:39:55,372 We discussed a physical allergy. Not a mental disability. 663 00:39:55,539 --> 00:39:58,501 Potato, potato. It comes down to this. 664 00:39:58,667 --> 00:40:00,878 In order to understand what I was thinking... 665 00:40:01,045 --> 00:40:02,963 you need to see Chuck through my eyes. 666 00:40:03,172 --> 00:40:07,343 You need to know if I believe that tape was evidence. 667 00:40:07,551 --> 00:40:09,553 And I say it was evidence of only one thing. 668 00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:11,889 My brother hates me. 669 00:40:12,723 --> 00:40:16,352 Now, he claims that he lied to me to get me to tell the truth. 670 00:40:16,519 --> 00:40:17,603 And I'm telling you... 671 00:40:17,812 --> 00:40:20,397 I lied to my brother to make him feel better. 672 00:40:20,564 --> 00:40:21,982 Which of us you believe... 673 00:40:22,149 --> 00:40:26,570 depends on how we all understand the mind of Charles McGill. 674 00:40:28,197 --> 00:40:31,075 We did promise the defence some leeway. 675 00:40:32,576 --> 00:40:34,578 - You may proceed. - Thank you, Mr Chairman. 676 00:40:34,745 --> 00:40:36,622 But watch yourself. 677 00:40:43,629 --> 00:40:46,132 Chuck, I'd like to go back a little further. 678 00:40:46,298 --> 00:40:48,843 Talk about when these symptoms first started. It was... 679 00:40:49,009 --> 00:40:52,513 shortly after you were divorced, is that right? 680 00:40:53,848 --> 00:40:56,934 - Yes. - You think the stress of the divorce... 681 00:40:57,143 --> 00:40:58,936 - brought on the illness? - Doubt it. 682 00:40:59,145 --> 00:41:02,565 It was an amicable split. My ex-wife and I are still on good terms. 683 00:41:02,773 --> 00:41:05,818 In fact, your ex-wife is present with us today. Is she not? 684 00:41:06,485 --> 00:41:08,821 - When was the last time you saw each...? - Objection. 685 00:41:08,988 --> 00:41:10,156 This is not family court. 686 00:41:10,322 --> 00:41:12,700 We're not here to re-litigate the witness's divorce. 687 00:41:12,867 --> 00:41:15,953 - I can't see what purpose this serves. - I can. 688 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,456 I'll tell you why my brother brought my ex-wife to this hearing. 689 00:41:19,623 --> 00:41:22,001 Four thousand miles, she came. 690 00:41:22,168 --> 00:41:24,753 Lured by concern for me. 691 00:41:25,171 --> 00:41:29,717 What Jimmy's driving at is the last time I saw her, I covered up my illness. 692 00:41:29,925 --> 00:41:32,094 I'd been suffering from it for some time. 693 00:41:32,261 --> 00:41:36,140 But I went to great lengths to conceal that fact from her. 694 00:41:37,558 --> 00:41:40,227 I'm sorry I deceived you, Rebecca. 695 00:41:42,271 --> 00:41:44,190 I didn't want you to think less of me. 696 00:41:47,234 --> 00:41:49,195 Now Jimmy's outed me in front of you. 697 00:41:49,987 --> 00:41:51,530 You know why? 698 00:41:51,947 --> 00:41:53,115 To rattle me. 699 00:41:53,324 --> 00:41:55,784 He knows I still have... 700 00:41:56,076 --> 00:41:59,705 a lot of feeling for my ex-wife. 701 00:41:59,872 --> 00:42:02,166 He's hoping this will break me down. 702 00:42:02,333 --> 00:42:05,085 Split me apart at the seams like a murderer confessing... 703 00:42:05,252 --> 00:42:07,338 on an episode of Perry Mason. 704 00:42:08,631 --> 00:42:12,092 Well, I'm sorry to disappoint you, Jimmy. 705 00:42:13,844 --> 00:42:17,932 Have I answered your questions to your satisfaction? 706 00:42:18,265 --> 00:42:20,267 Do you have anything else? 707 00:42:22,269 --> 00:42:24,021 Yeah, I do. 708 00:42:24,188 --> 00:42:26,273 Earlier, you talked about other diseases... 709 00:42:26,482 --> 00:42:30,319 physical conditions, you said, so, okay... 710 00:42:30,527 --> 00:42:33,155 if you'd had, I don't know, lung cancer... 711 00:42:33,322 --> 00:42:35,532 would you have told Rebecca then? 712 00:42:37,534 --> 00:42:40,246 If that had been the case, maybe. I might have. 713 00:42:40,454 --> 00:42:42,248 - So how is this different? - Mr McGill. 714 00:42:42,456 --> 00:42:45,042 - Move it along. - You don't have to answer that. 715 00:42:45,209 --> 00:42:48,921 I wanna get down to brass tacks. I wanna be very, very specific here. 716 00:42:49,088 --> 00:42:51,632 This illness, what does it feel like? 717 00:42:51,799 --> 00:42:53,259 You mentioned it's painful. 718 00:42:53,467 --> 00:42:55,052 It is. 719 00:42:55,219 --> 00:42:56,845 There's a tightness in my chest... 720 00:42:57,012 --> 00:42:58,681 difficulty breathing... 721 00:42:58,847 --> 00:43:00,307 and pain. 722 00:43:00,474 --> 00:43:02,559 Burning pain. Pain spreads everywhere. 723 00:43:03,727 --> 00:43:05,938 Sounds horrible. Does it hurt right now? 724 00:43:06,146 --> 00:43:08,691 There's always some discomfort, yes. 725 00:43:09,233 --> 00:43:12,319 Electricity's everywhere in the modern world. 726 00:43:12,820 --> 00:43:15,823 But I very much appreciate the indulgence of the panel... 727 00:43:15,990 --> 00:43:17,700 for their accommodation today. 728 00:43:17,908 --> 00:43:20,577 I can handle this fine. 729 00:43:23,872 --> 00:43:26,583 Right. So with the lights out, you don't feel them. 730 00:43:26,750 --> 00:43:28,627 If the current's not flowing, no. 731 00:43:28,794 --> 00:43:32,423 Sorry about the exit signs. I guess they couldn't kill those for you. 732 00:43:32,589 --> 00:43:35,676 Well, they're not drawing much current, and they're far away. 733 00:43:35,926 --> 00:43:39,763 Intensity drops off with distance per the inverse-square law. 734 00:43:39,930 --> 00:43:42,391 Oh, yeah, whoa. Inverse-square. I'm not a physicist. 735 00:43:42,558 --> 00:43:44,768 Could you dumb that down a shade for me? 736 00:43:44,935 --> 00:43:46,103 The farther away it is... 737 00:43:46,270 --> 00:43:49,273 the stronger the source needs to be to have an effect. 738 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,109 Got it. Got it. So if I had a small battery, say... 739 00:43:52,318 --> 00:43:54,820 from a watch, and I got up close to your skin... 740 00:43:54,987 --> 00:43:56,071 you'd know? 741 00:43:56,238 --> 00:43:57,489 I would feel it, yes. 742 00:43:57,656 --> 00:44:01,368 Can you feel more current coming from any particular direction right now? 743 00:44:01,535 --> 00:44:04,413 From that back wall or...? 744 00:44:04,580 --> 00:44:07,249 From over there or up through the floor? 745 00:44:07,416 --> 00:44:11,420 Can you tell us where the nearest source is right now? 746 00:44:14,923 --> 00:44:17,092 Jimmy, do you have something in your pocket? 747 00:44:19,678 --> 00:44:23,140 Yes, I do, as a matter of fact. 748 00:44:26,060 --> 00:44:27,353 My cell phone. 749 00:44:27,519 --> 00:44:31,148 From this distance, you should feel it, and you don't, do you? 750 00:44:31,315 --> 00:44:34,276 Mr McGill, you were warned to leave your electronics outside. 751 00:44:35,402 --> 00:44:36,862 It's all right. 752 00:44:37,363 --> 00:44:38,697 It's all right. 753 00:44:39,490 --> 00:44:40,824 May I? 754 00:44:46,413 --> 00:44:48,165 Just as I thought. 755 00:44:48,332 --> 00:44:49,750 There's no battery in here. 756 00:44:49,958 --> 00:44:52,294 You removed the battery. 757 00:44:53,879 --> 00:44:56,757 That's a sorry little trick, isn't it? 758 00:44:56,924 --> 00:44:59,176 Yeah, you got me, Chuck. Dead to rights. 759 00:44:59,885 --> 00:45:01,095 I removed the battery. 760 00:45:02,137 --> 00:45:03,889 - Objection. - Sustained. 761 00:45:04,056 --> 00:45:07,142 You've taken all the leeway you're getting, Mr McGill. Wrap it up. 762 00:45:08,268 --> 00:45:10,229 God, Jimmy. 763 00:45:10,896 --> 00:45:12,564 Don't you know by now this is real? 764 00:45:12,731 --> 00:45:13,941 I feel this. 765 00:45:14,108 --> 00:45:18,821 It's a physical response to stimuli. It's not a quirk. 766 00:45:20,447 --> 00:45:22,908 What do I have to do to prove it to you? 767 00:45:23,492 --> 00:45:25,327 I don't know, Chuck. 768 00:45:25,744 --> 00:45:28,914 Could you reach into your breast pocket and tell me what's there? 769 00:45:30,916 --> 00:45:32,501 What now? 770 00:45:38,966 --> 00:45:41,301 Can you tell the court what that was? 771 00:45:43,637 --> 00:45:44,972 - A battery. - Mr Chairman. 772 00:45:45,180 --> 00:45:46,765 - Please. - You recognise that man? 773 00:45:46,974 --> 00:45:49,476 His name is Huell Babineaux. He's on our witness list. 774 00:45:49,685 --> 00:45:51,478 You bumped into him in the stairway. 775 00:45:51,687 --> 00:45:54,523 He'll testify he planted this fully-charged battery on you... 776 00:45:54,690 --> 00:45:56,275 over an hour and a half ago. 777 00:45:56,442 --> 00:45:59,027 - An hour and 43 minutes ago. - An hour and 43 minutes. 778 00:45:59,194 --> 00:46:00,362 Thank you, Mr Babineaux. 779 00:46:01,113 --> 00:46:03,031 And you felt nothing. 780 00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:05,701 - No. It's a trick. It has to be. - Enough is enough. 781 00:46:05,868 --> 00:46:08,996 I submit that Mr McGill's mental illness is a non-issue. 782 00:46:09,204 --> 00:46:11,582 If he were schizophrenic, it wouldn't take away... 783 00:46:11,748 --> 00:46:13,292 I am not crazy! 784 00:46:17,671 --> 00:46:19,756 I am not crazy. 785 00:46:20,048 --> 00:46:21,800 I know he swapped those numbers. 786 00:46:21,967 --> 00:46:23,510 I knew it was 1216. 787 00:46:23,677 --> 00:46:25,387 One after Magna Carta. 788 00:46:25,554 --> 00:46:27,931 As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. 789 00:46:28,098 --> 00:46:31,727 Never. I just couldn't prove it. 790 00:46:31,894 --> 00:46:33,145 He covered his tracks. 791 00:46:33,312 --> 00:46:35,606 He got that idiot at the copy shop to lie for him. 792 00:46:35,772 --> 00:46:38,942 - Mr McGill. You don't have to... - You think this is something? 793 00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:41,862 You think this is bad? This chicanery? 794 00:46:42,029 --> 00:46:43,322 He's done worse. 795 00:46:43,489 --> 00:46:44,823 That billboard. 796 00:46:44,990 --> 00:46:47,701 Are you telling me a man just happens to fall like that? 797 00:46:47,868 --> 00:46:49,745 No. He orchestrated it. 798 00:46:49,912 --> 00:46:51,246 Jimmy. 799 00:46:52,247 --> 00:46:55,542 He defecated through a sunroof. 800 00:46:55,751 --> 00:46:57,211 And I saved him. 801 00:46:57,377 --> 00:47:00,672 I shouldn't have. I took him into my own firm. 802 00:47:00,839 --> 00:47:02,925 What was I thinking? 803 00:47:03,091 --> 00:47:04,843 He'll never change. 804 00:47:05,010 --> 00:47:08,764 He'll never change. Ever since he was 9, always the same. 805 00:47:08,931 --> 00:47:11,475 Couldn't keep his hands out of the cash drawer. 806 00:47:11,642 --> 00:47:13,227 But not our Jimmy. 807 00:47:13,393 --> 00:47:15,687 Couldn't be precious Jimmy. 808 00:47:15,854 --> 00:47:18,023 Stealing them blind. 809 00:47:18,190 --> 00:47:19,942 And he gets to be a lawyer? 810 00:47:20,108 --> 00:47:22,402 What a sick joke. 811 00:47:22,569 --> 00:47:25,280 I should've stopped him when I had the chance. 812 00:47:25,447 --> 00:47:28,408 And you... you have to stop him. You... 813 00:47:50,722 --> 00:47:52,641 I apologise. 814 00:47:54,768 --> 00:47:56,979 I lost my train of thought. 815 00:48:00,899 --> 00:48:02,609 I got carried away. 816 00:48:08,073 --> 00:48:09,825 Do you have anything else? 817 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:13,579 No. 818 00:48:13,745 --> 00:48:15,497 Nothing further.