1 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,560 Johnny! 2 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,720 You'll never make it out of the bay. 3 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:32,480 Son, 4 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,680 I'm Captain Jack Sparrow. 5 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:37,360 Savvy? 6 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,360 He's one of Hollywood's biggest and most successful stars. 7 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,760 Actors Johnny Depp and Amber Heard. 8 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,960 Johnny! Johnny and Amber! 9 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,280 - Johnny! - Amber! 10 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,400 Hundreds of miles away from the glitz and glamour of Hollywood... 11 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,800 Johnny Depp's defamation trial against his ex-wife, Amber Heard, 12 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,760 is set to start in northern Virginia. 13 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,240 Just in case you've gotten lost in the soap opera, 14 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,720 50 million dollar claim by Johnny Depp that Amber Heard defamed him. 15 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,800 She wrote a 2018 op-ed in The Washington Post 16 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,960 referring to herself as a public figure representing domestic abuse. 17 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,000 Depp and his legal team say that Heard is outright lying, 18 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,520 and that those lies have devastated his career. 19 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,760 Heard countersued for 100 million in damages, 20 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,520 alleging the actor's legal team 21 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:29,040 tried to defame her by calling her claims a hoax. 22 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,920 Neither Depp nor Heard live or work here in Virginia, 23 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,720 but because The Washington Post has servers here 24 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,080 and a printer here in Virginia, 25 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,400 Fairfax County residents are gonna decide their fate 26 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,920 in this 50 million dollar case. 27 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:11,200 All right, 28 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:13,880 everybody. 29 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,360 Right now, I am on my way 30 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:22,120 to the Fairfax County Courthouse 31 00:02:22,640 --> 00:02:23,960 to get into line. 32 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,400 Day one of the Johnny Depp trial. There's gonna be 100 spectators, 33 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,120 and it's gonna be a mix of media and just civilians, 34 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:32,320 you know, supporters, fans. 35 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,280 - Johnny Depp! 36 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:35,560 Yeah! 37 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,400 I hear it's first come, first serve. So gotta be there bright and early. 38 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,800 Oh, wait, I gotta take a picture of the cushion. 39 00:02:42,640 --> 00:02:43,560 Perfect. 40 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,240 Oh, okay, I'm going for it. 41 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,160 I love you guys. Pass it along. 42 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,560 Let's flip it up so you guys can see. 43 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,040 - Good morning. - Good morning. 44 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,880 How are we feeling, line? 45 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,160 Yay. 46 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,440 You know what to do. Hashtag "respect for the line." 47 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:02,320 "Justice for the line." 48 00:03:02,920 --> 00:03:05,680 Okay, so if you're, like, official media, you have to be on that side 49 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:06,760 of the street, right? 50 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,520 If you're, like, just a fan, you can be over here. 51 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,160 So I can kind of get, like, a closer look at Johnny. 52 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,200 Johnny Depp is suing his ex-wife, Amber Heard, 53 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,480 for 50 million dollars in damages, 54 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,320 claiming she defamed him. 55 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,240 Welcome back. We're getting a closer look into the lives of Hollywood's elites 56 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,240 as part of the defamation lawsuit 57 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,760 between A-lister Johnny Depp and ex-wife Amber Heard. 58 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,000 In 2020, Depp lost a lawsuit against a British tabloid 59 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,160 that labeled him a, quote, "wife-beater." 60 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,000 He and Heard are both expected to testify at this trial. 61 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,760 Lots of people are talking about this, 62 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,600 I know there's lots of livestreams happening. 63 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,200 You can go watch the trial yourself, make your own opinions of it. 64 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,360 It's online. You can go to YouTube right now and watch. 65 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:45,800 Johnny, we love you! 66 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,800 Today is a different kind of show because we are going to be watching 67 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,280 the opening statements in the Johnny Depp-Amber Heard case 68 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,560 and going through them with commentary. 69 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,560 All right, so I got my spectator pass. That is awesome. 70 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,920 Okay, so we are up here on the fifth floor. 71 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,040 That's where his trial's taking place. Not supposed to be on our phones. 72 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,120 Definitely not supposed to be recording up here. 73 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,240 [man, chuckling] There's no Amber Heard fans. 74 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,080 It's only— It's only Johnny Depp fans. 75 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:25,080 Nobody's there for Amber. 76 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,280 What's up, guys? 77 00:04:28,280 --> 00:04:32,240 Welcome to Lawsplaining, and I hope you are ready. 78 00:04:33,280 --> 00:04:39,040 This is one of the first high-profile "Me Too" defamation cases 79 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,160 that's making it into a courtroom. 80 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,120 That is huge news. 81 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,880 Hey, there we are. There's the man himself, Johnny D. 82 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,880 That's a nice tie! I like that tie. 83 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,920 - Ready for the jury? - Yes, Your Honor. 84 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:56,840 Okay, great. 85 00:04:56,840 --> 00:04:59,600 So how is it that Court TV and other stations 86 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,160 are even allowed to broadcast this trial? 87 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:07,160 Why do we have such crazy access into the Fairfax County Courthouse? 88 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,080 In Virginia, that decision is solely up to the judge, 89 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,920 and the judge in this case signed an order permitting a pool camera 90 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,680 to broadcast the trial. 91 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,000 Ladies and gentlemen, 92 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,560 we're gonna go over the responsibilities you have as jurors, okay, in this case. 93 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,720 All right, so you're not to read, watch, or listen to anything about this case 94 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,400 on any social networking sites. 95 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,720 What you learn about this case is limited to what you learn 96 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,280 in the four walls of this courtroom. 97 00:05:30,280 --> 00:05:32,360 Okay? Are we ready with opening statements? 98 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:37,600 The judge is asking for Johnny Depp's attorney's opening statement. 99 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,320 Uh, I'm gonna cut to a full screen, 100 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,520 but I will chime in with some commentary if there are some breaks. 101 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:47,040 But here we go, live, uh, on Popcorned Planet here in Virginia. 102 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,600 - Good morning. - Morning. 103 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,120 This is a defamation case. 104 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:57,560 It's a case about how devastating words can be 105 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,600 when they are false and uttered publicly. 106 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,720 For nearly 30 years, 107 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,920 Mr. Depp built a reputation 108 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,000 as one of the most talented actors in Hollywood. 109 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,360 Today, his name is associated with a lie 110 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,520 uttered by his former wife, 111 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,640 the defendant, Amber Heard, 112 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,920 specifically the words that she used 113 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:28,840 published in The Washington Post in December 2018. 114 00:06:28,840 --> 00:06:30,720 Quote, "Two years ago, 115 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,240 I became a public figure representing domestic abuse." 116 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,400 "I had the rare vantage point 117 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:44,320 of seeing in real time how institutions protect men accused of abuse." 118 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:49,680 Ms. Heard did not use Mr. Depp's name in the op-ed. 119 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,440 She didn't have to. 120 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,160 Two years earlier, 121 00:06:55,680 --> 00:07:00,680 Ms. Heard had publicly accused Johnny Depp of domestic abuse. 122 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,880 Amber, did Johnny give you that bruise on your face? 123 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,680 Johnny Depp accused of domestic abuse in his sudden split 124 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,440 from actress Amber Heard. 125 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:14,720 Did Johnny brutalize you? 126 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,640 In the wake of the Me Too movement, 127 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:21,320 Amber Heard forever changed Mr. Depp's life and reputation. 128 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:26,280 This trial is about clearing Mr. Depp's name 129 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,480 of a terrible and false allegation. 130 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,080 All right. Thank you. 131 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:35,640 Mr. Rottenborn. 132 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,000 - May I approach? - Yes, sir. 133 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,720 - Good morning, everyone. - Morning. 134 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,920 Mr. Depp's team is gonna try to turn this case into a soap opera. 135 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,360 Why? I'm not really sure, 136 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,760 because the evidence isn't pretty for Mr. Depp. 137 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,160 It's not. 138 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,520 You're gonna see who the real Johnny Depp is, 139 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,760 behind the fame, behind the pirate costume. 140 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,280 The man who has described himself, 141 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,080 the violent side of himself, as "the monster." 142 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:07,320 "The monster." 143 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,480 You don't see The Washington Post 144 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,920 sitting here as a defendant in this courtroom. 145 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,680 He only sued Amber. 146 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,680 He could've sued The Washington Post, they published the article, but he didn't. 147 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,520 And he chose to bring Amber to court here in Virginia, 148 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,480 where she has no ties, 149 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,720 has never lived, he's never lived, 150 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:28,480 where they never spent any time, 151 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,640 because he wanted to ruin her life, 152 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:33,560 to haunt her, 153 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,840 to wreck her career. 154 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,880 It's not about the soap opera that Depp will turn this case into. 155 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,760 It's not about who you like better. 156 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,920 It's not even about whether you agree with the words that she wrote. 157 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,800 It's about her right to speak them. 158 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,280 Johnny Depp has one of the most brilliant legal teams, 159 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:00,160 and if you need proof of that, I've got a word for you, "Virginia." 160 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,520 Why would two celebrities from California 161 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,120 arguing about something written in The Washington Post 162 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,600 file a case in Virginia? 163 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,360 In the USA, defamation laws vary state by state, 164 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,360 and Virginia has some of the best defamation laws 165 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:12,520 for a matter like this. 166 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,800 Just so we're all on the same page, this is not a divorce case. 167 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:17,840 This is not a domestic violence case. 168 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,640 I would argue it's a PR campaign disguised as a defamation case. 169 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,400 I don't think Johnny's intention is to win the case here. 170 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,240 I think his intention is to clear his name and to control his reputation. 171 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,360 There is no PR campaign that has a chance 172 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,280 of making an impact as powerful as this trial. 173 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,400 Depp was the one who wanted the cameras in the courtroom. 174 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,280 - Oh, really? - She didn't. 175 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:42,680 Your first witness. 176 00:09:42,680 --> 00:09:45,560 Your Honor, we'd like to call Laura Amber Heard to the stand. 177 00:09:45,560 --> 00:09:46,640 All right. 178 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,200 Will you please state your name? 179 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,480 Yes, it's Amber Laura Heard. 180 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,120 Okay. 181 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,680 Now, why are you here? 182 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:13,480 I am here because my ex-husband is suing me, uh, for an op-ed I wrote. 183 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,280 And how do you feel about that? 184 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,600 I, um... 185 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,960 I s— struggle to have the words. 186 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,160 I struggle to find the words to describe how, uh, painful this is. 187 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:32,880 Um, this is horrible. 188 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,440 Okay, all right. Yes, ma'am? 189 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:43,520 Good afternoon, Mr. Depp. 190 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:45,000 Good afternoon. 191 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,280 Can you please tell the jury why you're here today? 192 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,760 Um, yes. 193 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:53,520 Um... 194 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:57,480 About six years ago, 195 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:04,200 Ms. Heard made some quite heinous accusations against me 196 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,400 that, uh... 197 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,480 that were not based in any species of truth. 198 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,240 The infamous People Magazine cover with Ms. Heard 199 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,280 with a— a dark bruise on her face. 200 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,800 Nothing of the kind had ever happened. 201 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,480 Though there were... 202 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:28,160 um, 203 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:29,880 arguments. 204 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:46,080 But never did I, myself, r— reach the point 205 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,560 of, um, striking Ms. Heard in any way, 206 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,800 nor have I ever struck, um, any woman. 207 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:05,760 I'm sorry. 208 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,680 I didn't realize anyone was there, I thought it was just... floating. 209 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:12,440 It is just floating. 210 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:16,520 Oh, God. 211 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,480 Why did she have to happen? 212 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,960 Just when I was doing so good without her. 213 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,280 Please describe for the jury your experience in auditioning 214 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:27,560 for The Rum Diary. 215 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,480 Well, I auditioned a few times, which is common in my work, 216 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:36,800 and then I got a call saying that Johnny wanted to meet me in person. 217 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:38,840 Um... 218 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,720 I thought I would be going for maybe an audition. 219 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,880 Um... But it was just a meeting. 220 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:48,640 I went to his office, um, and— and met with him for a few hours. 221 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,200 She came to my office. 222 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,360 I took one look at her and I thought, 223 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,280 "Yep, that's the one." 224 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,480 That's when I first met Ms. Heard. 225 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,840 We talked about books and music, poetry. 226 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,800 Um, we like a lot of the same... 227 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,160 We liked a lot of the same stuff. 228 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,880 I was so surprised that somebody— You know, I'm a no-name actor. 229 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,960 I was 22, I think. 230 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:24,280 And he was twice my age and he's this world-famous actor, 231 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,160 and here we are getting along about... ... old blues, 232 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,280 and I thought it was unusual and remarkable. 233 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,680 I left there just feeling like, "Wow." 234 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,840 I remember there was a scene where I was taking a shower 235 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,440 and then she comes into the room 236 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,240 and she walks, opens the shower, and we kiss. 237 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:53,440 It felt like something that I shouldn't be feeling. 238 00:13:55,480 --> 00:14:00,400 There are certain things that you do in the job to, um, be professional, 239 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,160 like when you have to do that sort of scene, 240 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,640 and you don't, like— you— 241 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,800 you don't use your tongue if you can't— if you can avoid it. 242 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:15,200 There's certain things that you do to just maintain a certain line, 243 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,440 and it just felt like those lines were blurred. 244 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,040 I mean, he grabbed my face and pulled me into him 245 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:21,360 and really kissed me. 246 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,000 - Did he use his tongue? - Yes. 247 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,440 That day after work, 248 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,520 Ms. Heard, uh, had come to my trailer. 249 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:40,360 He kind of playfully kind of pushed me down on this, like, bed-sofa, 250 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,360 uh, that was in his trailer, just playful, 251 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,000 um, and flirtatious, and he said, uh, "Yum." 252 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:57,680 Meeting an actress like Amber Heard, she's of another era, you know. 253 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,920 I mean, it's like walking into a room and meeting Veronica Lake or Bette Davis, 254 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:03,960 or, you know, Lauren Bacall. 255 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:07,920 I called her "Slim." 256 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,440 I called her "Slim" and she called me "Steve." 257 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,080 What do you think you're gonna do? 258 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,520 I'm gonna get that wallet, Slim. 259 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,400 You know, Steve, I wouldn't put it past you. 260 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,520 My God, when Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall, 261 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,920 that's when they met, on that film, 262 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,840 he was 45 years old and she was 19. 263 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,120 What'd you do that for? 264 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,000 - Been wondering whether I'd like it. - What's the decision? 265 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,040 I don't know yet. 266 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,040 They stayed together until Bogart passed away. 267 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:51,240 So, I acknowledge the— the fact that I was the old, craggy Bogey, 268 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,320 and she was this... beautiful creature, 269 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,400 just this stunning creature. 270 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,480 It was a beautiful place, a beautiful time, 271 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,560 and, uh, I fell head over heels in love with this man. 272 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,480 She seemed to be the perfect partner. 273 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,000 Literate, sweet, funny. 274 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:17,920 She was, uh... She was wonderful. 275 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:23,040 There wasn't any love like that, you know? I mean— 276 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,880 And then, uh— he would... 277 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:30,640 disappear. 278 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,440 Hello everybody, welcome to Darthn3ws. 279 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,560 This is gonna be a day one recap. 280 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,880 I was in the courtroom, I was sitting there live, in person. 281 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,920 So I'm just gonna give you my first-hand account. 282 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,760 I'm not a legal scholar, I'm not a lawyer. I do this for fun. 283 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,000 But I have, like, a dog in the fight 284 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,520 because I actually give a fuck about Johnny Depp. 285 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:55,560 And men's rights. 286 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,640 Amber! Amber! Amber! 287 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,640 - Johnny! Johnny! Johnny! 288 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,080 Can you describe your relationship with Mr. Depp? 289 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:11,000 Do you remember the first time that he physically hit you? 290 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,280 - Yes. - Please tell the jury about it. 291 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,840 I will never forget it. It changed my life. 292 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,400 I— I was sitting on the couch, 293 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,560 and I ask him about the tattoo he has on his arm. 294 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,400 I didn't know what it said, 295 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,640 it just looked like muddled, faded tattoo that was hard to read. 296 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:36,520 Well, the— the, um... 297 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,360 what it, uh— a tattoo, 298 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:41,960 which used to say "Winona Forever," 299 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,560 who was a former girlfriend, Winona Ryder, 300 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,320 and, uh, when we broke up, 301 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,800 I took off the last two letters 302 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,560 and had it say "Wino Forever." 303 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,760 I didn't see that. I thought he was joking 304 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,920 because it didn't look like it said that at all, and I laughed, 305 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:02,040 and he slapped me across the face. 306 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,280 I just stared at him, kind of l-laughing still, 307 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,640 thinking that he was gonna start laughing too, to tell me it was a joke, 308 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,000 but he didn't. 309 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,320 He said, "You think it's so funny? You think it's funny, bitch?" 310 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:20,760 "You think you're a funny bitch?" And he slapped me again. 311 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:22,600 Hard. 312 00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:26,960 I was just sitting there looking at the dirty carpet, 313 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,320 wondering why I never noticed that the carpet was so filthy before. 314 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,000 and I just didn't know what else to do, I didn't know what to say, 315 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,400 I didn't know how to react because, "God, did he just hit me?" 316 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,040 Mr. Depp, what is your response to that? 317 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:42,920 It... 318 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,880 It didn't— It— It didn't happen. 319 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:49,920 I have never struck Ms. Heard. 320 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,760 I wish I could sit here and say I stood up, 321 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,400 and I walked out of that house 322 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:57,400 and I drew a line and I stood up for myself. 323 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,240 I was just looking at the... 324 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,880 dirty carpet, trying to will myself to get up. 325 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,000 I was... 326 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:14,760 heartbroken. 327 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,320 She's acting. 328 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,480 She's lying. 329 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,240 Will you please state your name for the record? 330 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,800 Whitney Henriquez. 331 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,000 - And you're Amber's sister? - I am. 332 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:37,320 Describe your relationship with Mr. Depp in the early stages. 333 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,040 We got along really well at first. 334 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,240 Um, he was sober at the time, 335 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,200 and Johnny, when he's sober, is very bright and beautiful and lovely 336 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,760 and kind and generous, and he was very easy to get to know. 337 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,600 And frankly, we all fell in love with him at first. 338 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,480 But, very quickly, this pattern emerged, 339 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,400 uh, as their relationship went on 340 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,640 that if Johnny was using or if he was drinking, 341 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,240 there was almost always a fight. 342 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,480 Johnny, when sober, was lovely 343 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,120 and magical and very funny. 344 00:20:12,120 --> 00:20:16,560 Cocaine and any kind of alcohol... 345 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,760 would bring out a very, very ugly side of him. 346 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,880 Um, very misogynistic and cruel. 347 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,440 He was almost unrecognizable 348 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,280 when he was drinking and using to an excess. 349 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,360 He would just get very angry, 350 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:34,240 and he would just say really horrible things about her. 351 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,240 He would weave these elaborate situations 352 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,760 in which Amber was having affairs with every man that she ever worked with 353 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,600 and every woman she ever came in contact with. 354 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,680 He— He became very demeaning. 355 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,360 You know, "She has no talent, 356 00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:53,560 and when her tits start to sag and her face gets wrinkly, 357 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,720 nobody is gonna be interested in her." 358 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,480 He called her "a fucking used-up trash bag," uh, 359 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,720 "slimy whore,"saggy whore." 360 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,520 You know, "fucking cunt" was thrown out a bunch. 361 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,440 Um, just horrible things like that. 362 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,440 Motherfucker! 363 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:35,400 Motherfucker! 364 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:36,640 What happened? 365 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,520 Nothing happened this morning, you know that? All I did was say sorry. 366 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,080 Did something happen to you... 367 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,960 - ... this morning? I don't think so. 368 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,960 Um... No. That's the thing. 369 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,360 You wanna see crazy? I'll give you fucking crazy. 370 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:12,520 Here's crazy. 371 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,200 All your crazy. Are you crazy? 372 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,280 Have you drunk this whole thing this morning? 373 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,280 Oh, you got this going? You got this going? 374 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,080 - No, I just started it. - Oh, really? 375 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,560 - Yes. - Really? 376 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,240 So she's trying to record him without him even knowing that. 377 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,200 Why did you videotape this, Amber? 378 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,440 Yeah, good question. 379 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:45,960 'Cause I knew he... 380 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,360 - wouldn't remember. He'd deny it. - Objection. 381 00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:51,480 - Calls for speculation. - Sustained. 382 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,880 When somebody breaks something in anger in your presence, 383 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,360 that is legally an act of abuse. 384 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:01,600 And he is— he's— Look at him. 385 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,800 I mean, he's kicking stuff, he's slamming stuff, he's breaking stuff. 386 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,120 She's like, "Hey what's going on?" 387 00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:09,760 And, here, I know he wasn't hitting her, 388 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,920 but he was doing some very aggressive things, 389 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,040 and directly in her presence. 390 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,920 And if she's coming in and saying, like, 391 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,320 "Well, hey, here's this confrontation that happened." 392 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,400 "I was intimidated by it. I felt this was an act of abuse," 393 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,760 then she can give her opinion, that "I was in an abusive relationship." 394 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,160 I'm not, you know, trying to defend her or say it, 395 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,600 but I'm just saying, you know, it's— it's a huge problem for him. 396 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,720 - Morning, Mr. Depp. - Morning, Mr. Rottenborn. 397 00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:38,880 Mr. Depp, we've talked about this, uh, a little bit, 398 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,040 but you've testified that abuse can come in many forms, correct? 399 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,600 Physical being one of them? 400 00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:45,760 - Indeed. - Verbal? 401 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:46,840 Indeed. 402 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:49,000 Psychological abuse? 403 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,000 Indeed. 404 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,880 And you would agree that you were violent in that clip, correct? 405 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:55,320 Um... 406 00:23:56,120 --> 00:23:58,880 Clearly, I was having a bad time. 407 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:03,080 I thought what— what was most interesting is that she tried to hide it from me, 408 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,240 and then that she laughed and smiled at the end. 409 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,600 I thought that was the most interesting part myself. 410 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:11,720 But— So, yes. 411 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,840 - You didn't react— - I did assault, um, a couple of cabinets. 412 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,800 But I did not touch Ms. Heard. 413 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,640 - And— - As you can see, I think. No? 414 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,560 You may have been drunk in that video, correct? 415 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,880 There's a possibility of that. Yes, sir. 416 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:30,440 You— You— You poured yourself a, um, a megapint of red wine, correct? 417 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,640 - A megapint? 418 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:34,640 Yeah. 419 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,560 I poured myself a large glass of wine. 420 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,720 - Right. - I thought it necessary. 421 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,080 Wait for it. 422 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,880 I poured myself a large glass of wine. 423 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,200 The lawyer conducting Johnny Depp's cross-examination said, 424 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,440 "We saw you pour a sort of—" 425 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,680 Johnny Depp says, "A megapint." 426 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,360 The lawyer says, "A megapint of red wine, 427 00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:33,560 which is not everybody's choice for breakfast, is it?" 428 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,400 A megapint? 429 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,960 - That's Amber. 430 00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:52,320 All she needs to prove is that he abused her. I say "all," 431 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,120 but either she's making everything up, or there's been abuse. 432 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,560 It's not only social media, but when his SUV pulls up at court, 433 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,400 no matter what Amber Heard alleges, 434 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,960 there's a crowd out there who are just gobsmacked by Johnny Depp. 435 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:13,760 Johnny, Johnny, Johnny! 436 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,080 Remember, none of us were there. 437 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,880 With us, it's, "Who do we believe?" 438 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:25,080 But never, ever forget, we were not there. 439 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:29,800 Good morning, Mr. Depp. 440 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:30,920 Good morning. 441 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,920 Mr. Depp, I'd like to discuss April 2016 now. 442 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,080 - Um... - Mmm. 443 00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:41,800 We'll take a look at this gem in the historic core of downtown LA. 444 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,640 This is the Eastern Columbia building, 445 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,480 one of the most prestigious places to live in downtown Los Angeles. 446 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,200 Johnny Depp owned five penthouses here. 447 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,680 This art deco gem at the corner of Broadway and Ninth. 448 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,160 My birthday was coming up, and we had a dinner planned at our penthouse. 449 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,200 He, uh, told me at some point that day 450 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,720 that he had scheduled a business meeting, 451 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,600 or a— "a money meeting," I think he said, maybe. 452 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,400 I was about an hour and 40 minutes late, maybe, 453 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,840 something like that. 454 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,120 Mr. Depp, when you arrived at the party, 455 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:17,640 how did Ms. Heard greet you, if at all? 456 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:20,120 Very cold. 457 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:22,760 It was a big deal to you 458 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,400 that Mr. Depp was late to your birthday dinner, wasn't it? 459 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,480 Yeah, it— Yeah, it did matter to me. 460 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,080 And you were upset he was late. 461 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,800 I was. I was hurt. 462 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,920 She squared off at me 463 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,280 in the doorway of our bedroom. 464 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,000 I— I remember him blocking the door, 465 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,360 blocking me to get out, kind of shoving me down, 466 00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:47,360 and, well, we had a— a— you know, a verbal argument, 467 00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:50,320 and then that became a shoving match. I tried to shove him back. 468 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,000 And I said, "Go ahead, hit me." 469 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,600 Bam. 470 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,160 It's a movie scene. 471 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,440 And then I just said, "Is that what you wanted?" 472 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,280 "Would you like another?" 473 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,120 I wanna hug this man. 474 00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:07,040 Bam. 475 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:09,680 There's the second one. 476 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,200 And I said, "Good, now you're done." 477 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,720 Grabbed her by the shoulders, 478 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,880 walked her to the bed, 479 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,800 sat her down, and said, 480 00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:23,480 "Don't follow me." "Leave me alone." 481 00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:25,720 "I'm out. I'm gone." 482 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,600 Johnny wrestled me down on the bed. 483 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,080 I remember I got up once or twice before I ended up on the bed, 484 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,120 and he grabbed me. Um... 485 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:36,000 He did this thing that he did sometimes when he would taunt me, 486 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,400 he'd grab me by the... 487 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,840 um, the pubic... bone, 488 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,400 just pushed me down, held me down by it, and kind of pulled me into it, 489 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,200 and, um, was kind of taunting me, 490 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,080 asking me if I thought I was so fucking tough. 491 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,080 "You think you're such a fucking tough guy, huh?" 492 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,400 "Are you so tough now? Look who's so tough. You wanna be a man?" 493 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,480 I went, I grabbed a few things, 494 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,080 and I got out immediately, 495 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,520 and I went to, um... 496 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:05,640 my other house. 497 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,000 But he's saying, "We're fucking done. We're divorcing. This is over." 498 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,400 And then at 4:30 a.m. on April 22nd, 499 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,480 which is Amber's birthday, he left Amber. 500 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,880 Yes, he leaves Amber, like, "for good," quote unquote, on her birthday. 501 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,640 What a savage. 502 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,160 My friends, this is the patriarchy at work. 503 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,240 Heard's being called a whore, a gold digger, a crazy bitch, 504 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,680 manipulative, a monster. 505 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,360 He is being given empathy and forgiveness for his transgressions 506 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,760 in a way Heard is not. 507 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,040 It's victim-blaming at its finest. 508 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,520 This is why people don't report abuse. 509 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,320 So far, who do you believe in this story here? 510 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,960 - I kinda believe both of 'em. Um... - Okay. 511 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,720 They're on the stand, they're under oath. 512 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:51,160 - Yeah. - They're not allowed to lie. 513 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,080 If they get caught in a lie, it's big trouble. 514 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,840 In terms of it being public, well, that's, uh— that's showbiz, isn't it? 515 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,920 After your birthday, you and your friends went to Coachella 516 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,680 to celebrate your birthday. Is that correct? 517 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:06,720 That is correct. 518 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,080 You're featured in that video driving. 519 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,320 That's correct. 520 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,920 I had gone to one of my security team 521 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,120 and said, uh, "She's in Coachella." 522 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,440 "I think it's a good time to go downtown 523 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,080 so that I can get some of my things." You know? 524 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,680 And he said, "I don't think now's a good time to go." 525 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:32,280 Ah. 526 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,680 And I thought, "It's the perfect time. She's not gonna be home for two days." 527 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:41,000 And then he showed me a photograph on his telephone. 528 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,080 What was the photograph of, Mr. Depp? 529 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,600 Poop. Say it. Poop! 530 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,400 It was a— It was a— 531 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,520 It was a photograph of the bed, 532 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,160 and on my side of the bed... 533 00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,720 um... 534 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,240 was human fecal matter. 535 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,800 He knows how fucking stupid it is. 536 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,520 My initial response to that, 537 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:20,040 that some human being had actually dropped a, uh... 538 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,000 "grumpy" onto the bed... 539 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,000 It was so bizarre... 540 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,200 and so grotesque... 541 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,080 that I could only laugh. 542 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,720 If you'd raise your right hand for me. 543 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,680 Do you swear or affirm to tell the truth under penalty of law? 544 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,240 - I do. - All right. Thank you, sir. 545 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,080 Mr. Jenkins, do you know the plaintiff in this case, Johnny Depp? 546 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,040 Yes, I do. 547 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,720 Were you also going to Coachella with Ms. Heard? 548 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,600 Yes, I was. I was the transportation for Amber and her friends 549 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,320 while she was at Coachella. 550 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,520 And did you have any discussions with Ms. Heard 551 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,640 on the way to Coachella that evening? 552 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,040 We had a conversation pertaining to the surprise she left 553 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,680 in the boss's bed prior to leaving the apartment. 554 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,920 And what did Ms. Heard say about the defecation in Mr. Depp's bed? 555 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,480 A horrible practical joke gone wrong. 556 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,000 Did you commit any kind of prank? 557 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:22,880 Absolutely not. 558 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,120 First of all, I— that— I don't think that's funny. 559 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,960 Period. That's disgusting. 560 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,880 Uh, and she tr-tried to blame it on the dogs. 561 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,600 What, if any, issues did Boo have— 562 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,360 Oh, they're disparaging the dog! 563 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,880 with bathroom problems, if you will? 564 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,440 Johnny's dog, uh, at— at the time, Boo, 565 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,640 she had eaten Johnny's weed when she was a puppy 566 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,560 and had, uh, bowel control issues. 567 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,840 Why didn't you think it could've been the dogs? 568 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,120 They're Teacup Yorkies. 569 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,000 They weigh about four pounds each. 570 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:57,800 It was clear. 571 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,960 That did not come from a dog. 572 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:13,120 That's probably one of the first times that he really realized 573 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,520 the depths of how fucking insane that she was. 574 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,240 It was shared on the record that Depp sent this text, 575 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,840 quote, "Will you squat in front of the door of the master bedroom 576 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,400 and leave a giant coil of dookie so that Amber steps in it 577 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,920 and thinks that one of the dogs, primarily Boo, has a major problem?" 578 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,960 "It'll be funny." 579 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,560 On the 29th of October 2014, 580 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,680 Ms. Heard wrote in a text message to Kevin Murphy 581 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,520 that, quote, "Last night, she," as in Boo, 582 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,040 "shit on Johnny while he was sleeping, 583 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,160 like all over him, not exaggerating." 584 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,800 Again, public record. 585 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:15,080 Mr. Depp, why did you go over to the penthouses on May 21st, 2016? 586 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,880 Ms. Heard had requested, uh, that I come over to— to have a talk. 587 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,000 I— I went over there with my security team, 588 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,280 Jerry Judge and Sean Bett, 589 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,040 just in case anything went down. 590 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,480 - Good morning, Mr. Bett. - Good morning. 591 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,360 Do you see this on your screen, uh, Mr. Bett? 592 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,280 I do. 593 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,480 That's you in that black and white shirt, right? 594 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:42,680 That's me. 595 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,240 That's Mr. Depp in the hat, and that's Mr. Judge to his left. 596 00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:47,160 Correct. 597 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,360 And this video is when you're entering 598 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,080 the Eastern Columbia building to take him to Penthouse Three, correct? 599 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,040 That's correct. 600 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,760 Johnny and I had not seen each other for the better part of a month. 601 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,040 I mean, I could tell he was inebriated, but it was peaceful. 602 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,960 And then he starts talking about the feces again, 603 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:14,520 and this prank that he said one of my friends had left for him 604 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,800 in my bed. 605 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,160 Our marriage was falling apart in front of our eyes, 606 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:20,720 we hadn't seen each other for a month, 607 00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:23,360 and I couldn't believe he wanted to talk about feces. 608 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:29,680 So I call this friend, thinking that will take care of it. 609 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,720 - And I say— - Tell us who that person is. 610 00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:32,640 Io. 611 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,360 She put me on speakerphone. 612 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:41,560 She said, "Johnny thinks that you and I together 613 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,800 defecated on his pillow." 614 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,840 So I started laughing, 615 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,600 and he got very agitated by the fact that she and I thought it was funny. 616 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,320 And when I realized that he was serious, 617 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,800 I was like, "Okay, look. You know, first of all, 618 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:01,600 I wasn't there that day." 619 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,440 It just made Johnny madder. 620 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,000 He got more upset, grabbed the phone, 621 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,480 and started screaming expletives, 622 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:10,760 insulting names. 623 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,680 And I said to Io, "You can have her now." 624 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,720 "She's yours. She's all yours." Right? 625 00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:23,360 He tosses the— the phone, you know, down on the couch and heads upstairs, 626 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,280 and I pick up the phone. 627 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,360 Io said, "Amber, get out of the house. Get out of the house now." 628 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,680 "You're not safe." 629 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,280 Johnny came bolting down the stairs, 630 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,960 grabbed the phone from my hand, 631 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,880 just pulls his arm back with the phone, 632 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,320 and throws it at my face. 633 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,440 Hit me right in my— It felt like my— my eye. 634 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,320 I was by the refrigerator at this point. 635 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,080 I was 20 feet away. 636 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:52,840 Where was Ms. Heard at that time? 637 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,920 She was still sitting on the couch. 638 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,920 He comes over to me, um, as I'm crying. 639 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,760 He says, "Oh yeah, I hit you, huh?" 640 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,400 "What if I pull your hair back? What if I pull your hair back?" 641 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,920 He said to her, "Oh, you think I hit you?" 642 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,560 "You think I fucking hit you?" 643 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,080 "What if I peel your fucking hair back?" 644 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,600 And then I heard the phone drop again and then I heard her scream. 645 00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:26,160 She's still got Io on the phone, 646 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,400 and that's when the screaming started. 647 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,960 "Stop hitting me, Johnny," she's screaming. 648 00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:37,360 In— In her best, uh, 649 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:41,680 freaked out, upset voice, high-pitched. 650 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,960 We could hear the screaming and shouting from Ms. Heard, 651 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,320 so I immediately opened up the door, 652 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,960 and Mr. Judge and I ran in there. 653 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,920 Next thing I hear is, "Boss, boss!" 654 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,760 And I realize that his two security guards had come into the— to the apartment. 655 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,680 She had this look of surprise on her face, 656 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:07,080 and then she looked at Mr. Depp and us, and she shouted out loud, 657 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,680 um, "This is the last time you do this to me." 658 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,960 "That's the last time you'll ever hit me." 659 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,320 "That's the last time you'll ever do that to me." 660 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,200 And again, I'm a good 20 feet away, by the fridge. 661 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,160 At which point, Mr. Depp looked at her and said, 662 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,280 "What the hell are you talking about?" 663 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,920 [Io] I remember her screaming... 664 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:44,360 and I hung up the phone and I called 911. 665 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,240 Hello, officers. How you doing? 666 00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:56,960 Want to just come in and just check. 667 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,880 We need to make sure everybody in here is okay and then we... 668 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,880 Why didn't you want to cooperate with the police? 669 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:07,600 I wanted to protect Johnny. 670 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,720 I didn't want him to be arrested. 671 00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:11,320 Who's Amber? 672 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,040 You? Okay. 673 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,880 Johnny is definitely not here. 674 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:17,840 - He's not here? - No, sir. 675 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,400 Everything's all good then? 676 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,320 - Now it is, yes. - All right. 677 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,400 Thank you. 678 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,720 My best friend took pictures of me. 679 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,480 This is my face after the phone incident. 680 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,440 Did you have a clear view of Ms. Heard? 681 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:36,360 I did. 682 00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,200 - Did you have a clear view of her face? - I did. 683 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,480 Did you observe any injuries on Ms. Heard's face? 684 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,320 None. 685 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,600 Johnny Depp's soon-to-be ex-wife has received 686 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,040 a domestic violence restraining order against the movie star. 687 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,200 Amber Heard presented this photograph in court 688 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,280 as evidence of the alleged domestic violence. 689 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,440 Hey, Amber. 690 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,800 Amber, did Johnny give you that bruise on your face? 691 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,880 - Did Johnny beat you up? - Amber, what— 692 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,280 I saw that she had gone to a court 693 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,080 and there were paparazzi everywhere, 694 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,640 and her and a, um, brown mark on her face. 695 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,560 Had you ever been accused of physically abusing a woman 696 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:22,560 before this point? 697 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:24,480 No. 698 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:27,200 No. 699 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:02,000 Because you started it. 700 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:23,080 The fact that she's on tape admitting to hitting Johnny Depp, 701 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,400 for her to have written this op-ed for The Washington Post 702 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:32,360 and essentially propped herself up as a figurehead in the "Me Too" movement. 703 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:33,520 - Right. - So to speak. 704 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,080 Yeah, it— it— I think you— you just feel really betrayed. 705 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,400 It's so triggering to so many people. 706 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,520 As a victim and a survivor of domestic violence, 707 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,600 even though it's sexist, you do want to kind of back the female, 708 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,240 but so far, I feel like she was more the aggressor. 709 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,320 Look, they can both be wrong. Amber can be awful. 710 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,360 You can totally believe that, but we can't use that 711 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,320 as a reason for Johnny Depp to be absolved 712 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,640 of the clearly awful things that he has done. 713 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,160 All right. Cross-examination. 714 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,520 Cross-examination. Here we go. 715 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,240 - Good afternoon, Ms. Heard. - Good afternoon. 716 00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:18,680 Starting out respectful. 717 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,880 Mr. Depp hasn't looked at you once this entire trial, has he? 718 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,640 Ooh! No, he has not. 719 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,120 Not that I've noticed, no. 720 00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:30,080 You know exactly why Mr. Depp won't look back at you, don't you? 721 00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,000 I do. 722 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,600 One of the last times you ever saw Mr. Depp 723 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,960 was when you met in San Francisco in July of 2016, 724 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,960 and this is after you had obtained 725 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,440 the domestic violence restraining order against him. 726 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,560 That's correct. 727 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:45,880 Oh, right into audio. 728 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,640 - Please. You won't even— 729 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,120 Please, please. 730 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,640 That's you and Mr. Depp in that recording. 731 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:18,880 That is. 732 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,840 And he kept that promise, hasn't he? 733 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,840 As far as I know, he cannot look at me. 734 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:25,040 "He cannot." 735 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,080 He won't look at you, right, Ms. Heard? 736 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:28,000 He can't. 737 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,000 Let's please play plaintiff exhibit 357A, 738 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:34,720 which is already in evidence, Your Honor. 739 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,600 That's your voice on that recording? 740 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:53,680 Yes, it is. 741 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,760 You didn't think he would tell the world he was a victim of domestic violence, 742 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:57,680 did you? 743 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,320 I thought it would be crazy for him to do so 744 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,320 knowing what I know we lived through. 745 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,760 What did you say in response when Ms. Heard said, 746 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,240 "Tell the world, Johnny." 747 00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:13,440 "Tell them, 'Johnny Depp, I'm a victim too of domestic violence'"? 748 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,720 I said, "Yes. I am." 749 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,360 Ms. Heard, 750 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,240 Mr. Depp is your victim, isn't he? 751 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:26,720 No, ma'am. 752 00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:31,560 And once he left you, you continued to abuse him publicly 753 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,640 by calling him an abuser, didn't you? 754 00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:36,240 Uh, he is an abuser, 755 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:40,800 and you can look either of us up online and figure out who's being abused online. 756 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:55,800 Amber turd! Amber turd! Amber turd! Amber turd! 757 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:05,360 This is a battle of optics. This is not so much about the legal merits 758 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,600 but rather what the public perception is. 759 00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:12,000 If you just look at public opinion, 760 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,960 no one really believes Amber Heard. 761 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,640 I don't buy it for a— Do you buy this? 762 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,520 The hashtag "Justice for Johnny Depp" 763 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,640 has more than four billion views on TikTok. 764 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,880 It seems the Internet has made up its mind 765 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,200 without this court case even coming to a close. 766 00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:06,400 Yeah, Amber's fucked.