1 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:10,880 Welcome back. Johnny Depp's defamation trial 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,560 against his ex-wife Amber Heard 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,000 is playing out in real time on television and on social media, 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,040 where millions are poring over shocking details and taking sides. 5 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:25,640 Amber, how you feeling? 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:30,520 My video about this pod episode is at almost 500,000 views, 7 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,840 and I just posted it yesterday. 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,880 It has many facets that we have to look at, 9 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,080 including fame, the Me Too movement, cancel culture. 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,080 It is just a, uh— sort of a perfect storm, if you will. 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,320 Number one over Elon Musk. 12 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,680 More than four times Joe Biden. 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,160 Abortion opinion, more than five times greater. 14 00:00:51,160 --> 00:00:54,600 The Ukraine war, more than six times greater. 15 00:00:54,600 --> 00:01:00,800 This story is the biggest story online in the nation. 16 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,520 News anchors lined up outside the courthouse. 17 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,960 Numerous cameras inside the courtroom live-streaming every minute. 18 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:15,360 Uh, take us for a little tour of our— I think we have video of our mobile setup. 19 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,480 We actually have heating and air conditioning sometimes in here. 20 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,120 People are live-tweeting, people are live-streaming. 21 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:25,400 What does it all mean? Where does it end? 22 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,880 It's been, uh, you know, a social media circus 23 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:32,680 of commentary from creators and influencers and, uh— and laypeople. 24 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:37,200 I think that the truth was lost on social media, uh, quite some time ago. 25 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:38,560 Well, there are new concerns 26 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,440 about the spread of misinformation on TikTok. 27 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,080 According to researchers, 28 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,240 American users spend three times as much time on TikTok than on Twitter. 29 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:52,240 Explain for us more about the app's design and why it is particularly problematic. 30 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,480 You have a platform that uses short videos. 31 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,240 It has a powerful and very mysterious recommendation algorithm. 32 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:59,760 You've got a billion users 33 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,120 that are constantly filtering through a very fast-moving feed. 34 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,320 Videos can be very easily manipulated and republished. 35 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,400 I was walking out of the bedroom, slapped me across the face, 36 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,440 and I said, "Johnny, you hit me." 37 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:13,880 You just hit me. Hit me. 38 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,360 There are parody videos that often get mistaken as fact. 39 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,480 People are obsessed with this case. On TikTok, 40 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,720 people could really broadcast their theories. 41 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,040 I was sitting there on this carpet. 42 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:28,000 Especially when the case is live in court 43 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,240 and you have all this footage. 44 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,600 You could show them authentically what is going on. 45 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:32,840 What are people posting? 46 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,200 talked about Australia. 47 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,760 I think this might decide the case, 48 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,440 because this is where the parties are alleging the most significant dispute, 49 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,240 and they're in such contradiction, 50 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,240 that the jury can only think one of them is true. 51 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,160 I think they're going to come to the conclusion 52 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,280 that one of them is lying about Australia. 53 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,400 Let's take a look about what they said happened. 54 00:02:52,920 --> 00:02:56,720 I was— I was working on Pirates of the Caribbean five. 55 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,520 Mr. Depp, was Ms. Heard in Australia with you? 56 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:04,760 She came a little later, yes. 57 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:07,040 And what happened when Ms. Heard 58 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,880 came to visit you in Australia? 59 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:13,960 Um... 60 00:03:26,920 --> 00:03:29,120 Thank you very much. Johnny Depp's here. 61 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,840 I haven't seen it, but I know it ahead of time, and now I see it, 62 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,200 that you're wea— wearing a, uh— a— you have an engagement ring. 63 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:36,920 I do, I have a female engagement ring— 64 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:37,840 - Yeah. - ... on my finger. 65 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,240 But you— you, uh, uh, you're getting married. 66 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,320 - Well, it's— uh, yeah. Uh, yeah. - Yeah. 67 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,480 But it's— it's not typical for a m-man to wear an engagement ring, is it? 68 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:47,400 No. 69 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,360 - Uh... 70 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,280 - It was too big for my girl, so, uh— - Is it? 71 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,160 So the woman you're, uh— Who's been on the show, by the way. 72 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,560 - Amber, yeah. Yeah. - Oh, lovely. 73 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,200 Amber! 74 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,720 Amber, look to your left! 75 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,840 Amber. Big smile, Amber! 76 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:08,880 I had proposed to Ms. Heard a couple of years before, I believe, 77 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:10,520 so we talked occasionally 78 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:15,880 about when would be the right time between schedules 79 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:20,120 so that we could actually have a wedding and a honeymoon, 80 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:25,080 and— and then go on to do the work in Australia. 81 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,920 I was marrying the love of my life. 82 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:32,840 It was complicated, 83 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,480 but he was the love of my life. 84 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,000 Ladies and gentlemen, Johnny Depp! 85 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,200 We all left for the island for the... 86 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,520 well, the dream wedding, I guess. 87 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,360 We walked down the beach aisle, said our vows, 88 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,920 and shot the bird, meaning the middle finger, 89 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:03,360 up at the paparazzi while we were on the altar. 90 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,920 And we danced and celebrated. 91 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,400 And then I left the island 'cause I had to go work. 92 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,920 Amber! Straight ahead please. 93 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,160 Amber Heard is 20 years younger 94 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,000 and was building a career and name recognition within Hollywood, 95 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,680 but she was certainly nowhere near the star that Johnny Depp was. 96 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,560 - Hi, we're here with Amber Heard. - Hi. 97 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,480 Explain quickly your character. 98 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:28,920 I play a young girl who's caught up 99 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,640 in the fast-paced, decadent, 1980s lifestyle of Los Angeles, 100 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,720 and, uh, sh— and her, um— 101 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,960 She's a beautiful woman who ultimately, um— 102 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,680 Ultimately, that beauty causes her demise 103 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,520 and the demise of other characters around her. 104 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,240 And it was an interesting part. 105 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,480 I took the bus around L.A. It was before smartphones. 106 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,800 I had a— a Thomas Guide and a change of tank tops, 107 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,480 and I just hustled from one audition to the other. 108 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,840 - Right here, Amber. - Amber, right here. 109 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:01,320 It's been a slow progression, I guess, since then, 110 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,920 you know, of doing either tiny bit parts in bigger movies 111 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,240 or doing larger roles in movies that no one would see, 112 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,560 and I guess, you know, it still is kind of like that. 113 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,040 When you say you left the island, you had to go to work, 114 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,720 what— what were you working on? 115 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,360 And three, two— 116 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,920 I was filming The Danish Girl in London. 117 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:27,000 I was there doing, kind of, prep work for that film. 118 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,840 I was going off to Australia. 119 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:35,920 Gentlemen! 120 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,800 The plan was always for me to wrap on my movie 121 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,600 and then come and join him in Australia where he was filming Pirates five. 122 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,360 Okay, and when approximately was that? 123 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,000 That was March 3rd. 124 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,360 Guys, I am shocked at the massive amounts of love and support 125 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,400 that you guys have been showing this channel, 126 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,720 and specifically our coverage of the Justice for Johnny Depp movement. 127 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,520 Welcome back to another episode of Darthn3ws special edition, 128 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,200 "Everybody Loves Johnny." 129 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,000 Actually, scratch that. 130 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,680 "Everybody Hates Amber." 131 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,480 You have creators on platforms like YouTube. 132 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:14,640 All of a sudden, 133 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,920 they're pumping out videos about this trial. 134 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,520 If you haven't, do me a favor, hit the subscribe button, 135 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:20,600 hit the bell for alerts. 136 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,160 I think everybody's waiting to see the evidence. That's what I— 137 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,960 For those of you who don't know, Super Chats is a way, 138 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,960 on YouTube, for people watching someone streaming to donate. 139 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,840 Loww, thank you for the 100 gift, - giving me subs. - I appreciate that. 140 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:35,760 Thank you so much. Thank you, thank you. 141 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,640 It allows their comment to go to the top. It kinda highlights 142 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,720 that— that person and their donation. 143 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,720 Hey, there. If we haven't met yet, I'm Emily D. Baker, the badass lawyer, 144 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,200 and everyone's favorite legal commentator. 145 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,560 I break down the legal shit behind the news and pop culture stories 146 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:51,920 we all wanna talk about. 147 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,520 - We are here to call to order... 148 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:59,000 the case of Johnny Depp v. Amber Heard. 149 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,560 Today, we are watching through live testimony 150 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,000 of what happened in Australia. 151 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:22,520 Now, I'm going to ask you to take this jury through what happened 152 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:23,880 once you arrived there. 153 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,480 Um, I flew in. I arrived early. 154 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:31,600 Uh, I... Immediately, I walked into the bedroom. 155 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,160 I was so excited to— to see him. 156 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,560 I was looking forward to having this, kind of, you know, 157 00:08:36,560 --> 00:08:40,200 "our style" at-home date. You know, a new— we're a new married couple. 158 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,800 We hadn't seen each other for basically a month... 159 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,920 after getting married. 160 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:49,840 And I start dinner and am happy to see him, 161 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,240 and some point early in that evening, 162 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,560 he pulls out a bag of MDMA. 163 00:08:56,560 --> 00:08:59,800 I asked him what it was, and he told me it was MDMA. 164 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:05,720 And I was surprised because, at the time, he had already gotten clean and sober. 165 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,000 It was for the wedding. 166 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,520 So I was surprised that he would even pull out this bag, 167 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:16,720 and he kinda seemed to suggest that we should do it together, 168 00:09:17,560 --> 00:09:20,520 and I was like, "Absolutely not." 169 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,840 Like, "I just got here. I just got here!" 170 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,520 "I wanna see you, I wanna spend time with you." 171 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,720 Ms. Heard was upset because, 172 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,480 as it was too late for a pre-nup agreement, 173 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:39,240 there— there was, uh, discussion of post-nup agreement. 174 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,000 She could not let go of the fact 175 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,160 that I was in on this, uh, post-nup agreement 176 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,640 and that I was trying to trick her 177 00:09:49,560 --> 00:09:53,920 into, uh, essentially getting nothing 178 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,040 if, uh... 179 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:57,520 if something were to happen. 180 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,560 She's telling me, "You don't trust me, you don't trust me, you don't trust me." 181 00:10:01,560 --> 00:10:07,160 And, um, all I could do was... try to calm her down. 182 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,560 - That— - Did that work? 183 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:09,840 It did not work, no. 184 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,200 It escalated and escalated, and t-turned into, uh... 185 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,600 madness, chaos. 186 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:18,720 - Can you please— - Violence. 187 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,440 Can you please describe that chaos and violence? 188 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,640 Why were you at the house that Sunday? 189 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,680 I was called to the house by one of Mr. Depp's assistants. 190 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,400 And did you observe anything when you went into the house? 191 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:49,280 Yeah, I mean, initially, I heard pretty hysterical sobbing, crying, 192 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,360 which sounded like Ms. Heard to me. 193 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,360 Just crying uncontrollably, I think it's fair to say. 194 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:58,640 There was a bit of damage down the steps. 195 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,520 A big chunk had been taken out of the marble staircase. 196 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,800 Walking down into the bar, I could see the damage, 197 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,880 a broken ping-pong table, sort of collapsed onto the floor, 198 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,200 lots of glass and cans strewn around the bar area. 199 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:15,320 Apparently, Hulk came through. 200 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,800 Broken glass is consistent with his version. 201 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,160 Who was there when you arrived? 202 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:23,840 Um, Debbie Lloyd was there. 203 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,080 Eleven-thirty, you wrote, 204 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,520 "MD received a text message from client 205 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,600 that he'd been arguing with wife and that he had cut his finger." 206 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:34,640 "According to patient, 207 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,560 his assistant and security were on their way to pick him up." 208 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:39,240 You wrote that? 209 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:41,760 According to my notes, yes. 210 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:43,960 David Kipper was there. 211 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,200 I went in to instruct 212 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:52,360 one of the people with him to look for the tip of the finger, 213 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,920 hoping that we would be able to put it back. 214 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,680 It was pretty extensive, all that broken glass, the blood. 215 00:11:58,680 --> 00:12:01,160 There were a lot of blood drips across that floor. 216 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,880 It's a kind of cream-colored tiled floor. On the next floor, on the main floor, 217 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,400 there's a sitting room with a couch on— a cream-colored couch, 218 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,840 which had a fair amount of blood drips on the cushions, 219 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:15,880 and we'd set up an art studio, so a lot of the art materials from that, 220 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,560 you know, paintbrushes, paint, a lot of paint on the floor. 221 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,560 Going into the master bathroom, 222 00:12:22,560 --> 00:12:26,200 there was a his-and-hers sinks and a mirror, a large mirror, 223 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,600 above each of the sinks that had writing on each of them. 224 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:36,440 Both of the bedrooms, I think, had blood on the duvet covers. 225 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:38,680 That's about the extent of it. 226 00:12:38,680 --> 00:12:40,040 Oh, is that all? 227 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,640 Uh, whose job was it to clean all that up? 228 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,240 It was mine. It was mine. 229 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,640 Well, I'll— I'll just cut to the chase. 230 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,560 I— I think that I ended up locking myself 231 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:55,520 in about, at lea— at least nine 232 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,240 bedrooms, bathrooms that day, 233 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,280 um, as she was banging on the doors and screaming obscenities 234 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,760 and wanting to, uh, have a physical altercation. 235 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,200 So how did it come to be that your finger became injured? 236 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:20,160 I left the... place, the— the room that I was hiding in, 237 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,600 or not hiding, locked myself into. 238 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,840 And I went downstairs, 239 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,000 and there was a, uh, bar, 240 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:35,160 so I grabbed a bottle of vodka that was there, 241 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:36,520 and a shot glass, 242 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,000 and sat at the bar. 243 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:40,880 She was nowhere around. 244 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:46,520 Poured myself two or three stiff shots of, uh— of the vodka, 245 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,040 first taste of alcohol I'd had in a long time. 246 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:51,200 And, um... 247 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,000 then she came down 248 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,800 to the bar and found me there, 249 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,320 and of course started screaming, "Oh, you're drinking again!" 250 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,880 "Ah, the monster," and all that. Um... 251 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:07,680 You can see how he feels about that. 252 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:10,200 Um, he holds up this bottle, 253 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,120 and kind of gesturing with the— the bottle towards me, 254 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,640 and, uh, I reach for it, and he'd revoke it, 255 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:20,440 kind of laugh at me. 256 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,080 And he's holding out the bottle. 257 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,880 I think, maybe the third time or so, I get a hold of it. 258 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,000 I pick it up and I slam it down on the ground, 259 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,280 right in between us, 260 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,400 and I smashed the bottle on the floor, 261 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,440 and that really set him off. 262 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,800 She grabbed the— the bottle of vodka... 263 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,600 and then just, uh, kind of stood back and then... 264 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,480 hurled it at me. 265 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:54,040 Takes the second bottle, which was the larger one, 266 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,520 she threw the large bottle, 267 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,200 and it made contact 268 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,800 and shattered, uh, everywhere, 269 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:10,280 and then I realized that the— the tip of my finger, uh, 270 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,080 had been severed. 271 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,400 What is this a picture of, Mr. Depp? 272 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,600 The remains of my finger. 273 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:33,840 I-I-I honestly don't remember if I, um, threw anything in his direction. 274 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,560 I— I don't think I did. 275 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:40,080 Um, I just remember him having me by the nightgown. 276 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,240 Um, I remember him flailing me, uh, throwing me around. 277 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,880 I'm flailing, um... 278 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,000 I remember at one point, he's teasing me, he— taunting me, 279 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:55,840 that I— he has my, um— my breast in his hand. 280 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,160 Um, my nightgown came completely off. 281 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,000 It was ripped off of me. 282 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:05,480 So... [voice breaks] I was naked, 283 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:09,200 and I'm slipping around on this tile, 284 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:10,880 and... 285 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:12,840 at... 286 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:13,840 at some point, 287 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,480 he's on top of— of— of— of me. 288 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:19,840 I'm on the countertop, 289 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,200 he had me by the neck, 290 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,680 and I'm looking at h— in his eyes. 291 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,920 And I don't see him anymore. 292 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,360 I don't see him anymore. 293 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,400 It wasn't him. It was black. 294 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,720 I've never been... so scared in my life. 295 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,800 It was— It was black. I couldn't see him. 296 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,960 And... ... my head was bashing against the back of the bar, 297 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,200 and I couldn't breathe. 298 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:48,200 Um, this is a lot. 299 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,880 And I remember trying to get up, and I was slipping on the glass. 300 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,440 My feet were slipping, my arms were slipping on the countertop. 301 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,640 And I remember just trying to get up so I could breathe, 302 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,120 so I could tell him that he was really hurting me. 303 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,280 I didn't think he knew what he was doing. 304 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,200 I don't know how. 305 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:13,400 I'm sorry. 306 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:20,640 I'm sorry. 307 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:24,840 I couldn't breathe. 308 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:28,040 Please. 309 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:31,640 I don't— 310 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,240 I don't wanna do this. 311 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,560 I don't wanna do this. 312 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,400 Amber Heard has said on the stand 313 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,840 she doesn't have a clear recollection of how things unfolded, 314 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:05,880 but she has alleged 315 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,480 that he sexually assaulted her with a bottle. 316 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,960 There were a couple of points in the trial that, 317 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:16,600 uh, should have never come out so publicly. 318 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,840 It is so hard to assess the credibility 319 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,560 of either Johnny Depp or Amber Heard for one simple reason, 320 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:22,720 they're both actors. 321 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,960 They're good at getting people to feel the way that they want them to feel. 322 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,840 Welcome to Popcorned Planet, I'm Andy Signore, and I'm not gonna lie, 323 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:38,720 today was rough. 324 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,680 I'm feeling bad for all the survivors out there 325 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,640 that just watched this performance 'cause I'm not buying it, 326 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,480 and I've gotten so many messages from so many of you 327 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,880 who have been through similar experiences, 328 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,640 and you're not buying it either. 329 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,520 Like, he was on top of me, 330 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,120 and I'm loo— I— I'm looking at h— in his eyes, 331 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,400 and I don't see him anymore. 332 00:19:00,120 --> 00:19:01,560 I don't see him anymore. 333 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,160 Ligature marks and finger marks bruising is very, very common. 334 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,400 And I'm sorry that that was your experience, 335 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,040 but thank you for sharing your experience with the chat. 336 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:11,200 So they're like, "Look, 337 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,720 these are the things we find, uh, confusing." 338 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:16,800 "Amber Heard is a psychopath" 339 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,560 is currently trending on Twitter, so, uh... 340 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,920 If you are mentally and physically abused, 341 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,440 like, a person of domestic violence, 342 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,720 male or female, 343 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,880 would you be able to go to court, 344 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:33,040 get on the stand, 345 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,400 and be a lairy, smarmy bitch? 346 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,680 Has anyone seen Gone Girl? 347 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,960 Wait for your clueless husband to start his day. 348 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,760 Meticulously stage your crime scene. 349 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,880 It's fake. It is so fake! 350 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:54,200 Like, how could you make such a mockery 351 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,840 of the victims like she's doing? 352 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,040 Sexual penetration with an object is really severe, 353 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,200 and unlike the rest of what she says about Johnny Depp, 354 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,760 almost requires some sort of sadistic nature, 355 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,080 so I think Australia, his story's more believable. 356 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,400 This has moved away from, like, a news story or a lawsuit, 357 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:18,280 and it's— it's— it's transformed into a cultural moment. 358 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,520 And I wasn't old enough to experience the impact of the O.J. Simpson trial, 359 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,160 but if I had to guess, 360 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,000 the hold, the chokehold that this lawsuit has on the world... 361 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,120 - It's up there, yeah. - ... it's comparable. 362 00:20:30,120 --> 00:20:33,840 And also the ways in which information and news are spread 363 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,800 is very different today than it was before. 364 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,000 - O.J. TikTok would have been... 365 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:40,680 - Oh, my God. - ... wild. 366 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:41,600 Truly wild. 367 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,440 - Truly wild. - Yeah. 368 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,560 Social media is clearly playing a role in this case. 369 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:59,200 I cannot tell you how much time I spend dealing with folks on social media. 370 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,880 And I tell you what, the Johnny Depp folks are fanatics. 371 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,560 And while working for TMZ, 372 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,200 were you involved in any assignments related to Ms. Heard? 373 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,320 I was. 374 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,320 On the 12th, we received a video, 375 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:15,920 um, depicting, um, Johnny Depp, um, s-slamming some cabinets 376 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,840 that was captured by Ms. Heard. 377 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,840 How does that video that was played in this trial 378 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,480 compare to the one you received on August 12, 2016? 379 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,160 It was much shorter than the video we had recei— 380 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,640 uh, than the video that's been played in this trial. 381 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,280 There was some— a bit at the beginning that was played here, 382 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:37,080 which Ms. Heard is, um, seemingly, sort of, setting up the camera 383 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,720 and getting into position, 384 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:40,560 and then there's a bit at the end 385 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,600 where she's seemingly sniggering and looks at the camera. 386 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,600 That part was not present in what we received. 387 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,240 Did TMZ edit the video? 388 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,640 No, not even a little. 389 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,240 - Nothing further, Your Honor. - Cross-examination? 390 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,880 Yes. Uh, so, you know this case is being televised, right? 391 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,560 I— I am aware that there are cameras. 392 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,520 And so this gets you your 15 minutes of fame. 393 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,480 Objection, Your Honor. Argumentative. 394 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,600 - I— I can ask that question. - Overruled. 395 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,440 Um... 396 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,480 and I'm not seeking any 15 minutes here. 397 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,400 Though you may— you're welcome to speculate. 398 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,840 I could say the same thing, by taking Amber Heard as a client, 399 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:25,760 for you. 400 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,400 The issue when you go in court 401 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,960 and when you have to testify and when there's evidence brought, 402 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,400 it's really— it's quite literally airing your dirty laundry. 403 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,320 That's why celebrities always settle cases. 404 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,840 You never want to go into court for that very reason. 405 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,800 Could they not have figured this out privately? Um... 406 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,640 I think— And we've talked about this before on the show. 407 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,520 I think that making it, um, accessible to the public was a strategy, 408 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,400 I think, probably brought to the table by Johnny's team. 409 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,240 This podcast is for entertainment purposes only. 410 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,880 With this Depp/Heard trial, the engagement is phenomenal. 411 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,360 I mean, it's just so cool to see everyone get involved 412 00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:14,360 and wanna know about the legal process and the laws that are involved. 413 00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:17,280 But that's— The thing is about justice 414 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,160 is that it's not about the truth, 415 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,640 it's not about right or wrong. 416 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:23,680 Unfortunately, 417 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,680 it's about what the judge or jury believes, 418 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,120 and that's— 419 00:23:28,120 --> 00:23:31,360 And on the information that's presented. 420 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,280 And that's why trials are theater. 421 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,600 It's not nec— It's supposed to be this search for the truth, 422 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:42,720 but it's really about us orchestrating what witnesses we're gonna bring in, 423 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:47,000 the order of proof that we're gonna present this story, 424 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,080 and how we're gonna do it, 425 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,600 what we're gonna keep in, what we're gonna keep out. 426 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:53,840 This is Law Disrupted, 427 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:58,480 and today we have the privilege of speaking with Camille Vasquez. 428 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,800 Johnny's testimony was a— a key point for us. 429 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,800 It was the first time that the world, 430 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,240 really the jury, right, in— in this case, 431 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:11,240 the jury got to hear from him in his own words. 432 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,800 We needed to give him the opportunity to speak and speak freely. 433 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:21,480 We introduced the jury to Johnny Depp and who the real Johnny Depp was. 434 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,520 So, we introduced the jury to his sister, 435 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,080 who was able to give a background 436 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,760 about who the little boy was... before he became Johnny Depp, 437 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,120 and who the man is now. 438 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,720 Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. All right, your first witness. 439 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,880 Miss Dembrowski, would you please tell the jurors 440 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,160 what your relationship with Johnny was like 441 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,560 when you were growing up? 442 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:50,880 Um... 443 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,400 Johnny and I were very close. Uh... 444 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,800 We were just friends. We were like best friends. 445 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,080 Miss Dembrowski, how would you describe 446 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,600 your parents' relationship? 447 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,120 That was complicated. 448 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,760 Um, I had a very... 449 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,880 interesting childhood, 450 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:18,160 um, one that I thought was normal until a certain age. 451 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,280 Could you please tell them about your history of substance use? 452 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,400 At about the age of, I don't know, 453 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:27,920 f-four, five years old, 454 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:34,000 I— I can remember vividly my— my mom 455 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,000 telling me to go get her nerve pills, 456 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,600 you know, um, 457 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,840 out of her purse that was hanging on the back of the door. 458 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,080 So I'd go get the nerve pills and I'd take it, 459 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:51,280 and, um, you know, after a few years, 460 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,760 you start to notice— 461 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,120 well, you start to think about "nerve pills." 462 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,960 "Nerve pill." 463 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:04,200 And then she seemed to calm down after she took those "nerve pills." 464 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,760 So, when I was 11 years old, 465 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:10,680 um, 466 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,480 I wanted to calm down. 467 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,000 I'd bring my mom her nerve pill, 468 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,280 I would walk away... 469 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,560 and I would take one myself, 470 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:24,560 um... 471 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:32,560 to escape the— the chaotic... nature 472 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:37,040 of— of what w— of what we were living, uh, through. 473 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,360 My mother was... 474 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,280 quite unpredictable, 475 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,040 and she was quite violent, 476 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,080 and the physical pain, 477 00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:52,280 y-you learn to deal with, you learn to accept it, 478 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,800 but the, uh, psychological and emotional abuse, 479 00:26:58,320 --> 00:26:59,480 that's what, uh— 480 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,160 that's what kind of tore us up, I think. 481 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,840 Mr. Depp, is there any substance you've ever been addicted to? 482 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,440 - Yes. - And— And what is that? 483 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:11,360 Um... 484 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,800 Roxicodone. 485 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,680 So far, everybody's just making these speculations 486 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,480 based off of whatever they're reading. 487 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,240 We haven't heard it out of the horse's mouth until now. 488 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,320 And now that we have, or started to hear about these things... 489 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,840 it only makes him seem like a more honest human being, 490 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,400 a more likable person. 491 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,840 The pills that I was addicted to, the— the Roxicodone, 492 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,040 which are very, very powerful opiates, 493 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,240 two of those 494 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,640 would knock me out. 495 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,680 You go on what's called "the nod," 496 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,520 and then it takes you away into sleep. 497 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,040 It's just very deep sleep. 498 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,640 We see Johnny Depp very open about his drug use, 499 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,600 that I think the other side was going to try to use against him, 500 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,200 but he knew, he's going to admit to it, his friends admitted to it, 501 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,760 and they kind of, you know, took the sting out of it from the other side. 502 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,160 They— Nothing really happened with it anymore, right? 503 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,000 Once you admit it, they can't really do anything with it. 504 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,000 There's no movement. 505 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,320 This is a picture of you on a— on a black leather couch, 506 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,480 passed out, correct? 507 00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:21,200 Passed out's an interesting way of putting it. 508 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,600 Maybe "asleep." 509 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,640 That's ice cream on your lap, correct? 510 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,280 It is indeed. Uh, Ms. Heard asked me to hold the ice cream 511 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,200 as she noticed that I was on a— on the nod, 512 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,120 that means "falling asleep," 513 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:38,960 um, from the 17-hour day that I'd worked, and also the opiates that I'd ingested, 514 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,400 and that was a wonderful picture to take for her. 515 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:42,920 - Sure— - I don't know why she took it. 516 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,120 Well, so it's Ms. Heard's fault 517 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,720 that that picture was taken. 518 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,400 That's— Is that what you're saying? 519 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:50,680 She— She snapped it. 520 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,440 Interesting to see how the jury interpret this information. 521 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,240 Will they interpret it, as Ms. Heard wants, 522 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,400 as evidence of Johnny having a "dark side"? 523 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,560 Will they interpret it as evidence, as Johnny says, 524 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,640 of a girlfriend setting up her partner 525 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,040 to look like a bad guy? Follow me for more legal TikTok. 526 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,000 You took this photo, right, Ms. Heard? 527 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,240 That's correct. 528 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,560 So you decided to take a picture of Mr. Depp asleep on the floor? 529 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,560 He was passed out. 530 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,720 You took this picture as well. 531 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,000 Yes. 532 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,080 This is a picture of Mr. Depp taking a nap 533 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,280 on his tropical island, on vacation. 534 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,800 We were on vacation, yes. 535 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,800 You also took this picture, right, Ms. Heard? 536 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:27,800 That's correct. 537 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,920 And this is another picture of Mr. Depp asleep in a chair. 538 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:33,480 No, he was, um, nodding off. 539 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,520 Uh, "asleep" is different. 540 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,480 When you're nodding off, you're high on drugs. 541 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,160 He didn't even feel the cigarette in his hand that had, 542 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,160 you know, been burning on his leg. 543 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,760 Uh, it was cause for alarm for me, naturally, um, because I cared about him. 544 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,440 You seem to like taking pictures of Mr. Depp 545 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,480 while he's sleeping, don't you? 546 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:53,480 I hated it. 547 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,560 You decided to take a picture of Mr. Depp asleep 548 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,360 with ice cream spilled all over him. 549 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,880 This isn't a very flattering picture of Mr. Depp, is it? 550 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,000 No, it's not. 551 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,680 You did, in fact, send this picture 552 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,600 to your friend, Rocky Pennington. 553 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:08,520 Yes, I did. 554 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,720 And this is you protecting Mr. Depp? 555 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,520 That is me getting support from my best friend. 556 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:15,760 This is you supporting Mr. Depp? 557 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,200 This is me getting support from my best friend. 558 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,600 I also need support. 559 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,800 - My God, I'm— - I'm so disappointed! 560 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,160 I'm so disappointed in you, Andy. 561 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,960 - I'm so sorry, guys. The truth is there. - It's so upsetting. 562 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,520 I'm a monster. I must be a monster because I passed out 563 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,240 on my bed last night, 564 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,680 and Yami took a photo and it's over. 565 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:39,240 Can you guys friggin' believe this was put into evidence? 566 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,400 He's taking a freaking nap on vacation! 567 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,760 Like, what the fuck is this photo? 568 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,720 - There is a money aspect to this too. - Yes. 569 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,400 Social media, now influencers, 570 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,760 you— you study this for a living, I don't have to tell you, 571 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,560 they make money sometimes for posting content. 572 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,680 How— How is that playing into this particular moment? 573 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,200 Become a member today. 574 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,760 Hit that join button. You'll be supporting the channel. 575 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,560 We would love if you hit the like button. 576 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,960 It does help us with the YouTube algorithm gods. 577 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,720 You need to make sure the next thing you do, 578 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,720 no matter what, is smash the hell out of that subscribe button. 579 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,880 You have creators on platforms like YouTube 580 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,920 who previously were getting hundreds of views 581 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,720 on videos about anything, 582 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,400 ranging from video games to music to art. 583 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,360 All of a sudden, they're pumping out videos about this trial. 584 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,680 I'm subscribed to some of you 585 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,600 and it's— it's cool to— to be on a stream. 586 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,000 Videos that make Johnny Depp look good and make Amber Heard look bad 587 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,680 because a— those are the only ones that people want to see, 588 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,280 and they're being able to make money for the first time ever. 589 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,480 They're getting viral videos off of this case, 590 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,240 getting millions of views. 591 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,160 Y'all have gotten wild, and I appreciate you. 592 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,800 This is the road that we're on. 593 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:51,840 Thank you so much. 594 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,680 It's kinda fun to just watch the numbers spiral, and I appreciate it. 595 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,880 This is a— This is a wild growth chart. 596 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,480 You know, you keep saying, "It's glorifying Johnny Depp." 597 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,800 - But that is the dominant stream, right? - Oh, yes. 598 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,120 It's not the other way. 599 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,360 Up until recently, 600 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,040 you really couldn't find any TikToks in support of Amber Heard. 601 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,280 - Wow! - The entire platform was pro-Johnny Depp. 602 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,440 And I've heard from those creators themselves that if someone comments 603 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,360 and says that they have a neutral position 604 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,960 or they think that maybe Amber is a victim, 605 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,200 they immediately get dog-piled, harassed, 606 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,640 abused themselves in these comment sections, 607 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,600 and no one wants to speak up in support of Amber Heard. 608 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,960 And as this high-profile trial plays out in court, social media users 609 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,200 are— are sort of rallying around Johnny Depp, 610 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,400 as Steve alluded to. 611 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,920 They're— They're looking for holes in the defense's case, 612 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,000 and they think that they found one. 613 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,280 This is what Amber carried in her purse 614 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,160 for the entire relationship with Johnny Depp. 615 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,200 This was what she used. 616 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,440 She became very adept 617 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,880 about how she had to mix the different colors 618 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,680 for the different days of the bruises to be able to cover those. 619 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,720 So Milani Cosmetics is the company that is sort of jumping into the fray 620 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,840 in this case. 621 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,440 They said that their, uh, color correcting compact, 622 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,320 it's a compact that came out in 2017. 623 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,680 It was the same compact that, uh, defense attorneys used 624 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,800 to say that, uh, Amber Heard used this specific kit 625 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,320 to cover bruises she allegedly received from Johnny Depp. 626 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:22,480 Now, Milani jumped into the fray by posting a TikTok to say, 627 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,520 "Actually, this kit came out in 2017." 628 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,440 "Amber Heard filed for divorce from Johnny Depp in 2016." 629 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,480 "There's no way that she used this specific kit 630 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,040 in order to cover alleged bruises." 631 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,120 This was just an example of something that she used, 632 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,600 and this is not the actual compact that she used, 633 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:58,560 but many people took the TikTok that Milani Cosmetics posted, 634 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,400 and said, "Hey, this is definitive proof that Amber Heard's attorneys are lying." 635 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,840 Amber Heard just got exposed 636 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,960 in another big lie from her court case with Johnny Depp. 637 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,760 She said that Amber carried that in her purse 638 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,600 to cover the bruises through her entire relationship. 639 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,920 Well, that palette didn't come out until after the divorce. 640 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,760 Meaning this makeup palette did not exist when they were together! Boom! 641 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,880 And the truth will set you free! 642 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,520 The TikTok has been viewed more than five million times. 643 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,600 All right, so I'm here at the Fairfax County Courthouse. 644 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,400 It has caused real-world consequences. 645 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,680 We saw one user actually go to the courthouse... 646 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,120 All right, going to the judges' chambers. 647 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,040 and seek out, uh, Johnny Depp's lawyers and attorneys, 648 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,760 and say, "I have evidence for you that you need to see." 649 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,880 Some people are actually criticizing the cosmetics company 650 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,160 for jumping into the fray, saying, "Hey, you did this for clout." 651 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,400 Like, "There was no reason for you to jump in here." 652 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:34,240 I think a lot of people, uh, are this— as this room, 653 00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:39,320 which is, "I just took Amber Heard's accusations at face value." 654 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,040 I wanted to believe her. 655 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:46,680 Like, this makeup kit would suggest that maybe she's not completely truthful. 656 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,720 People obviously have their opinions. This is a celebrity case. 657 00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:52,960 Johnny Depp is clearly winning right now in the court of public opinion. 658 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,040 Amber Heard or Johnny Depp? 659 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,000 - Come on, you gotta answer. - Johnny Depp. 660 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,080 Do you believe Johnny or do you believe Amber? 661 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,160 And it's ultimately what this case can— comes down to. 662 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,480 'Cause they can't both be right. One is lying. 663 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,320 Who do you believe? 664 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,960 Well, that depends probably a lot on your biases. 665 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,520 And— And, uh, if you're inclined to believe Johnny, 666 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,480 you just identify with him, 667 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,840 then everything he says is gonna be believed, 668 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,440 the negative things that are brought out on cross 669 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,160 are gonna be discounted and explained, 670 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,680 "Well, maybe he didn't send that text message." 671 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:29,680 The drug stuff, "Sure, that doesn't matter." 672 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,800 See? We minimize, we excuse, because that's our favored party. 673 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,600 And then, for Amber, it's like, 674 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,960 everything out there negative about her, 675 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,360 it's— we seize on, "of course," 'cause that validates our belief. 676 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,880 We are watching the final stretch of Amber Heard and Johnny Depp 677 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,080 and their dueling defamation trial playing out in Virginia. 678 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,720 Amber Heard, she is on the stand, 679 00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:56,440 really pushing back on the cross-examination. 680 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,400 You're seeing a little bit of a— a difference 681 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,280 in the way Amber Heard is answering Camille Vasquez, 682 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,320 and Camille Vasquez is being extremely aggressive with her. 683 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,800 Let's go back in, in the moment where we left off. 684 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,840 You spoke about donating your divorce settlement 685 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,160 on a Danish TV show, correct? 686 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,160 Uh, I believe I said I had, um... 687 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,320 I— I believe I said I donated it to charity. 688 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,000 You appeared on a show called RTL Late Night, right? 689 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,600 I don't recall what it— what show it was. 690 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,600 If we could please play Plaintiff's Exhibit 346, 691 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,800 which is a portion of your appearance on this program. 692 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,040 For the divorce settlement, you got seven million dollars. 693 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,320 People were saying this is all about the money. 694 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,680 But then you did something that, uh, twisted that whole argument. 695 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,080 What did you do with that money? 696 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,160 Seven million dollars in total was donated to— 697 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,000 I split it between the ACLU 698 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,800 and Children's Hospital of Los Angeles. 699 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,560 ACLU is a human rights organization? 700 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:01,640 Sorry, ACLU is a prominent, um, uh, organization, 701 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,800 non-profit organization in the United States. 702 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,000 It's called the American Civil Liberties Union, 703 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,880 and they work on behalf of marginalized communities, 704 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,920 uh, on the ground, in legislative reform. 705 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,960 - And— - Right. Well, more power to you. 706 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,920 Because that's something I've never heard of. 707 00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,000 I wanted nothing. 708 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:29,040 So, in this October, 2018 interview, 709 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,920 you said that you had, quote, "donated," end quote, 710 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,960 your entire divorce settlement to charity, right? 711 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,000 That's correct. 712 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,400 And in fact, your exact words were, 713 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,480 quote, "Seven million in total." 714 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,120 "I split it between the ACLU 715 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,920 and the Children's Hospital of Los Angeles," end quote. 716 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:47,920 - Right? - That's correct. 717 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,880 I made that statement as soon as I got a divorce 718 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,240 and we reached the settlement. 719 00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:54,440 That's when I pledged it, right then. 720 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,640 But you hadn't donated your entitle— entire seven million dollars settlement 721 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,440 to charity at that point, had you? 722 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:01,640 That's incorrect. 723 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,040 Sitting here today, Ms. Heard, you still haven't donated 724 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,120 the seven million dollars divorce settlement to charity, 725 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,240 isn't that right? 726 00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:13,680 Incorrect. I pledged the entirety— 727 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,160 - Ms. Heard, that's not my question. 728 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,840 - ... I intend to fulfill those obligations. - Ms. Heard? Ms. Heard? 729 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:20,920 That's not my question. 730 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,760 - Please try to answer my question. - What was your question? 731 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:25,360 Sitting here today... 732 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,440 It's so awkward. 733 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,640 you have not donated the seven million dollars, 734 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,360 "donated," not pledged, donated, 735 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,560 the seven million dollars divorce settlement to charity. 736 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,720 I use "pledge" and "donation" synonymous with one another. 737 00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:42,640 - Same thing. - But I don't. Ms. Heard? 738 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,440 - I don't use it synonymously. - That's how donations are paid. 739 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,240 Ms. Heard, respectfully, 740 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,360 that's not my question. 741 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,520 So, as of today, 742 00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,720 you have not donated seven million dollars of your divorce settlement 743 00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:58,040 to charity, right? 744 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,440 I have not been able to fulfill those p— 745 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:02,520 uh, those, uh, obligations yet. 746 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,720 Amber is literally trying to convince the jury. 747 00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:06,120 And she keeps looking at the jury. 748 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,720 She is trying to sell this story 749 00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:12,720 that she donated the whole seven million that she got from her divorce 750 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:14,360 because she pledged it. 751 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,080 Amber is very articulate. 752 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,280 She's very smart. 753 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,400 Um, but yes, she does look at the jury, 754 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,040 which is a little bit weird, when she's addressing her comments. 755 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,760 She may be looking at that jury more than any other witness has 756 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,160 in the past during this trial, because she wants to keep their attention. 757 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,880 And that's because you did want something, didn't you? 758 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,880 I didn't want anything and I didn't get anything. 759 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,720 You wanted Mr. Depp's money. 760 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,480 Didn't get it, wasn't interested in it. I loved Johnny, that's why I was with him. 761 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,520 - You wanted good press. 762 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,280 In general, one... does want good press, yes. 763 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,960 You wanted to seem altruistic publicly. 764 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,080 Wasn't my interest. 765 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,240 Uh, my interest is, uh, in my name, in clearing my name, 766 00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:01,400 and, at the time, I was being called a liar 767 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,200 and my motives were being questioned. 768 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,160 I did see it as important to... clear that up. 769 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,520 I wanted to make a statement, 770 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,720 to make sure that there was n-not any doubt, 771 00:41:11,720 --> 00:41:15,520 that I couldn't be labeled these things just because Johnny was a bigger star 772 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,360 and had more publicity reach. 773 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,160 You wanted to remind everyone of your claims of domestic violence 774 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,200 against Mr. Depp, right? 775 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,080 No, I wanted to move on with my life. 776 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,520 You wanted to make those claims seem believable. 777 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,320 They are believable. 778 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,400 - They were believable. - You wanted them to be seen— 779 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,920 You wanted to be seen, excuse me, as a noble victim 780 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,480 of domestic violence, didn't you? 781 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,840 I have never, never wanted to be seen as a victim. 782 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,720 - Nor have I ever called myself one. - You— 783 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,000 You testified under oath, 784 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,400 that, quote, "The entirety of your divorce settlement 785 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,160 was donated to charity," end quote. Didn't you? 786 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,200 That's correct. I pledged the entirety. 787 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,120 What's the big deal with Amber Heard and these donations? 788 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,160 "Scamber Turd" exposed herself yet again 789 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,120 and it might have just cost her the entire trial. 790 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,160 Pinocchio might have to sue her for identity theft, 791 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,760 these lies are getting out of hand. 792 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:13,200 You pay donations through pledging them? 793 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,920 No, you pay— 794 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,520 You give donations by giving them money, 795 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,640 not by saying you're going to give them money. 796 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,480 She doesn't know the difference between "donate" and "pledge." 797 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:24,600 Right. 798 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,000 I think I'm gonna "Amber Heard" it, you know? 799 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:31,280 Pledge ten, twelve million dollars to a great organization. 800 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,520 You know, and since "pledge" and "donate" is synonymous, 801 00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:37,560 we're all good. 802 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,800 He's won already in the court of opinion. 803 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,280 Whatever this jury comes out to, he's won, 804 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,320 and he needed the court process 805 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,920 to extract evidence and statements from Amber. 806 00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,680 And that leaves us to the— to— to the real question, 807 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,080 which is, what is the actual truth? 808 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,760 Where does that come from? 809 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,080 That's the jury's job. 810 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,080 I wanna know how they picked the jury for this. 811 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,680 I was thinking about that too. Like, "This has gotta be—" I mean, 812 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,840 like, I'm assuming the jury's, like, sequestered away. 813 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,000 - Yeah. - This is a big— 814 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:05,600 Sequestered away from where? 815 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,840 Philip, let me start with you. How important do you think 816 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,400 social media is, and what's going on out there 817 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,520 in the social media universe, to this case? 818 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,560 All that really matters is that you have a jury of seven 819 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,560 who does not go on social media 820 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:22,040 and is going to assess what went down based purely on what is presented in court 821 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,200 and not what is, you know, on TikTok 822 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,360 or in Instagram posts or on Facebook, etc. 823 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,840 They've been able to interact with friends, family, 824 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,800 and so, while they're not supposed to engage in social media 825 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,200 and know what's going on in the public sphere, 826 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,680 it's kind of tough to say that no one on that jury 827 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,720 has been exposed to it whatsoever, so I do think that's a concern. 828 00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:44,400 And the impact of the crowd cannot be overlooked 829 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,400 in that courtroom every day. 830 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:50,600 Do you think that the jury gets it right in most cases? 831 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:55,200 Do you think that they understand their responsibility? 832 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,960 Of course, the judge tells them what they're supposed to do. 833 00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,720 You're not to read anything about this case. 834 00:44:59,720 --> 00:45:02,240 You are not to watch anything about this case. 835 00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:04,520 You're not to listen to anything about this case. 836 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,760 This applies to television, newspapers, 837 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,960 magazines, the Internet, and any online sites. 838 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,000 Further, you're not to read, watch, or listen to anything about this case 839 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,760 on any social networking sites such as Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, 840 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,920 Snapchat, etc., or any similar sites. 841 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,840 The jury should've been sequestered. 842 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,720 You would hope that they would not look up anything. 843 00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:26,720 It's very, very hard to be a juror. 844 00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:30,000 I do not envy these jurors at all. 845 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,040 Six weeks being in that courtroom! 846 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:34,800 Again, it is not fun. 847 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,600 Not one of them had a fucking clue 848 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,600 that they were walking into Johnny Depp's fucking trial. 849 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,960 I-I-I think this is fantastic that this is being broadcasted, 850 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,160 and I think that everything that's coming together, 851 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,080 this is gonna get bigger and crazier. 852 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,720 "Did he just kick me?" 853 00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:53,400 Mr. Depp calls Kate Moss to the stand. 854 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,480 Would be a detrimental thing to Amber's case. 855 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,000 And there is a real risk 856 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,520 that not only could he lose this case as the plaintiff, 857 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,720 but Heard has a $100 million counterclaim. 858 00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:05,800 This thing could get real bad, 859 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,640 even worse, real fast for Mr. Depp.