1 00:00:16,791 --> 00:00:18,771 We're trying to do something a bit different with 2 00:00:18,871 --> 00:00:20,890 - the Daniel Morgan case. - Daniel Morgan, 3 00:00:21,124 --> 00:00:23,064 axe murder, 1987. 4 00:00:23,164 --> 00:00:25,585 We have our suspicions as to who's involved. 5 00:00:25,610 --> 00:00:27,543 We've just got to get them saying they did it. 6 00:00:27,643 --> 00:00:31,302 The Metropolitan Police have a reward of up to £50,000 7 00:00:31,402 --> 00:00:34,021 for any person who can give me information to the arrest 8 00:00:34,121 --> 00:00:36,130 and charge of those responsible. 9 00:00:36,131 --> 00:00:38,869 The Vians are nasty. Jimmy's rank. 10 00:00:38,969 --> 00:00:41,428 But Rees. Oh, he's clever. 11 00:00:41,528 --> 00:00:43,548 We caught one conversation between Fillery 12 00:00:43,648 --> 00:00:46,627 - and Alex Marunchak. - And who is this Marunchak? 13 00:00:46,727 --> 00:00:48,707 News of the World flunky. He's a no one. 14 00:00:48,807 --> 00:00:50,746 They've been watching the house, Jacqui. 15 00:00:50,846 --> 00:00:53,470 Hey! Come here! 16 00:00:54,158 --> 00:00:57,218 Do be aware of the power and the impact of the media. 17 00:00:57,330 --> 00:00:59,529 - Of News International. - Exactly. 18 00:00:59,530 --> 00:01:02,508 Your budget was spent harassing me in every way, 19 00:01:02,608 --> 00:01:04,988 leading to problems for my family. 20 00:01:07,167 --> 00:01:09,507 We think that there isn't sufficient evidence. 21 00:01:09,607 --> 00:01:13,006 So it's dead, right? A dead duck. 22 00:02:03,754 --> 00:02:06,413 It seems like the car falling off has made you better. 23 00:02:14,591 --> 00:02:17,050 Yes, look. You hit me with a... 24 00:02:17,150 --> 00:02:20,849 Hi, this is Dave. Leave a message. 25 00:02:20,949 --> 00:02:23,529 Dave, it's James Ward here. 26 00:02:23,629 --> 00:02:25,728 I know it's Christmas, but I've been thinking... 27 00:02:25,828 --> 00:02:28,728 I've decided I'll do it. 28 00:02:28,828 --> 00:02:31,047 I'll go in the box. I'll name... 29 00:02:31,147 --> 00:02:33,246 I'll tell everyone who done Dan Morgan. 30 00:02:33,346 --> 00:02:37,046 So just ring me as soon as you get this, all right? 31 00:02:37,146 --> 00:02:39,445 Thanks. 32 00:02:44,224 --> 00:02:47,283 - So how was Christmas? - Well, it was Christmas. 33 00:02:47,383 --> 00:02:49,323 - What, you don't like Christmas? - John, 34 00:02:49,423 --> 00:02:51,762 the best day of Christmas is Boxing Day, 35 00:02:51,862 --> 00:02:53,801 because then you know you get 364 days 36 00:02:53,901 --> 00:02:55,881 to go till the next Christmas. 37 00:02:55,981 --> 00:02:57,960 How was yours? 38 00:02:58,060 --> 00:03:00,040 We had a lovely Christmas. Thank you. 39 00:03:00,140 --> 00:03:03,079 Er, James Ward. Remind me. 40 00:03:03,179 --> 00:03:06,079 Got put away for drug trafficking last year. 41 00:03:06,179 --> 00:03:09,718 Wants a deal in return for information on Daniel Morgan. 42 00:03:09,818 --> 00:03:13,677 - He's done deals before. - And how is his information? 43 00:03:13,777 --> 00:03:15,716 - What's your feeling? - My feeling is that 44 00:03:15,816 --> 00:03:17,916 the Morgan investigation closed two years ago, 45 00:03:18,016 --> 00:03:20,995 and I now work at Customs. 46 00:03:21,108 --> 00:03:23,687 He knows things. He does. 47 00:03:23,774 --> 00:03:26,234 And he rang me over Christmas. 48 00:03:26,334 --> 00:03:28,793 - He said he'd go QE. - He'll go in the box? 49 00:03:28,893 --> 00:03:32,312 That's what he said. So I pulled him out of Belmarsh yesterday. 50 00:03:32,412 --> 00:03:34,352 We had a chat. 51 00:03:34,452 --> 00:03:37,711 So if we nicked him a year ago, why is he only stepping up with this now? 52 00:03:37,811 --> 00:03:40,750 It's my wife. She's really unwell. 53 00:03:40,850 --> 00:03:44,029 - She could die. - Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. 54 00:03:44,129 --> 00:03:46,989 That's why I need to get out of here, so I can look after her. 55 00:03:47,089 --> 00:03:49,548 I don't want her to die alone. She shouldn't have to die alone. 56 00:03:49,648 --> 00:03:52,287 - I understand. - But I need... 57 00:03:53,527 --> 00:03:56,606 - assurances. - There are ways we can protect you. 58 00:03:58,326 --> 00:04:00,265 The people who've done Morgan, 59 00:04:00,365 --> 00:04:02,725 it's the worst kept secret in the world. 60 00:04:03,685 --> 00:04:06,724 Whole of Croydon knows who done it. 61 00:04:07,564 --> 00:04:09,563 Shall we start at the beginning? 62 00:04:16,602 --> 00:04:19,141 It was Glenn, with the axe. 63 00:04:19,241 --> 00:04:21,940 Jimmy with the car. 64 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,660 It was purposely done. 65 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,759 Jonathan Rees wanted it done. 66 00:04:28,359 --> 00:04:30,978 - I hear it was over a woman. - And who paid? 67 00:04:31,078 --> 00:04:33,337 Rees. 68 00:04:33,437 --> 00:04:35,537 And Garry? 69 00:04:35,637 --> 00:04:39,456 He weren't there. His job was to keep everyone in line. 70 00:04:39,556 --> 00:04:42,515 Sid Fillery was used later on to disrupt the inquiry. 71 00:04:44,915 --> 00:04:47,894 Glenn used to call it the Golden Wonder murder. 72 00:04:47,994 --> 00:04:49,973 Because of all the crisps that 73 00:04:50,073 --> 00:04:52,253 Danny had bought for his kids just before he left the pub. 74 00:04:52,353 --> 00:04:54,612 Okay, that's a great story. Where did you get it from? 75 00:04:54,712 --> 00:04:58,052 Garry told me. A few times. 76 00:04:58,152 --> 00:05:01,771 Glenn told me face to face a couple of times as well. 77 00:05:01,871 --> 00:05:03,990 Glenn said he got 25 grand for the job. 78 00:05:06,589 --> 00:05:08,589 Is that good enough? 79 00:05:11,028 --> 00:05:13,048 Ooh, that's not bad. 80 00:05:13,148 --> 00:05:15,367 I mean, it's hearsay, but it's not bad. 81 00:05:15,467 --> 00:05:17,667 We'll need to follow protocol to the letter. 82 00:05:19,066 --> 00:05:21,566 Uh-huh. 83 00:05:21,666 --> 00:05:26,045 Look, the way this works is that we go through what we call 84 00:05:26,145 --> 00:05:28,244 a cleansing process. 85 00:05:28,344 --> 00:05:31,483 You confess to your past crimes, hand over all your assets. 86 00:05:31,583 --> 00:05:33,763 I've been selling cannabis for 20 years, Dave. 87 00:05:33,863 --> 00:05:35,802 I'm not sure I can remember everything. 88 00:05:35,902 --> 00:05:38,002 You will get a separate debrief team. 89 00:05:38,102 --> 00:05:40,321 You talk to them, they report back to me. 90 00:05:40,421 --> 00:05:42,401 It's what we call a sterile corridor. 91 00:05:42,501 --> 00:05:44,960 Why can't I speak to you? 92 00:05:45,060 --> 00:05:48,499 So I can't be accused of influencing you, feeding you information. 93 00:05:52,218 --> 00:05:54,238 No. 94 00:05:54,338 --> 00:05:56,877 No, I can't do that. I don't trust the Met. 95 00:05:56,977 --> 00:05:58,997 They're all, they're all bent at the Met. 96 00:05:59,097 --> 00:06:01,896 Look, I'll... I'll be honest with you here, Jimmy. 97 00:06:04,416 --> 00:06:07,695 This really isn't my case anymore. 98 00:06:08,694 --> 00:06:11,094 You want this, this is the process. 99 00:06:18,572 --> 00:06:20,572 I don't want my wife to die alone. 100 00:06:21,691 --> 00:06:23,691 No, you don't. 101 00:06:33,808 --> 00:06:36,188 Okay, then. 102 00:06:36,288 --> 00:06:38,787 I'll do it. 103 00:06:38,887 --> 00:06:40,987 This could be our ticket. 104 00:06:41,087 --> 00:06:44,026 We could crack this open, Dave. You and me. 105 00:06:44,126 --> 00:06:46,865 We could crack open Daniel Morgan. 106 00:06:46,965 --> 00:06:50,344 Fifth time lucky. What do you think? 107 00:07:16,118 --> 00:07:18,178 I thought we were moving forward. 108 00:07:18,278 --> 00:07:21,077 Things have felt better recently. 109 00:07:22,637 --> 00:07:24,816 Well, we are. We are moving forward. 110 00:07:24,916 --> 00:07:27,635 You've just told me they're reopening Daniel Morgan with you as SIO. 111 00:07:29,355 --> 00:07:32,134 - It won't be like last time. - Oh, and you're presenting it to me 112 00:07:32,234 --> 00:07:34,334 as if it's a done deal. You didn't even ask me. 113 00:07:34,434 --> 00:07:36,373 Jacqui, it's completely different. 114 00:07:36,473 --> 00:07:38,413 We've got them on the back foot this time. 115 00:07:38,513 --> 00:07:41,332 We had Witness Protection install panic alarms. 116 00:07:41,432 --> 00:07:43,772 We had journalists fishing for our bank details. 117 00:07:43,872 --> 00:07:46,331 We had... Our kids were followed by The News of the World to school. 118 00:07:46,431 --> 00:07:49,050 - That'll not be happening again. - The people you're investigating 119 00:07:49,150 --> 00:07:51,530 are private investigators. They invade people's lives, Dave, 120 00:07:51,630 --> 00:07:53,609 and I'm not doing it again. I can't go back to that. 121 00:07:53,709 --> 00:07:54,729 Jacqui. 122 00:07:54,829 --> 00:07:57,128 - You don't know how hard I've worked. - You won't. You won't. 123 00:07:57,801 --> 00:07:59,781 It'll be quick this time. Clean. 124 00:07:59,806 --> 00:08:03,465 Well, why does it have to be you? Why? You're irreplaceable, Dave. 125 00:08:03,490 --> 00:08:05,929 Because nobody knows Morgan like me. 126 00:08:05,930 --> 00:08:07,950 I know this case inside out. 127 00:08:09,528 --> 00:08:11,468 - You want it? - No. 128 00:08:11,568 --> 00:08:14,167 - Yes, you do. - Fuck, it's the last thing I want. 129 00:08:15,010 --> 00:08:16,390 Yates? 130 00:08:16,790 --> 00:08:19,049 - He doesn't trust anyone else. - No. 131 00:08:20,449 --> 00:08:22,448 You don't trust anyone else. 132 00:08:26,450 --> 00:08:27,853 How is it going to work? 133 00:08:28,130 --> 00:08:30,268 I commute five days a week to Northallerton 134 00:08:30,293 --> 00:08:32,706 I've got Crimewatch and I'm teaching. Explain to me how this is will work. 135 00:08:32,806 --> 00:08:35,129 - We will make it work. - So it's a done deal? 136 00:08:35,130 --> 00:08:36,710 Can you say no? 137 00:08:41,324 --> 00:08:43,323 Jacqui. 138 00:08:48,508 --> 00:08:52,300 After the last investigation, the CPS said we had all the pieces 139 00:08:52,301 --> 00:08:55,630 of the puzzle, but we lacked the glue to stick them together. 140 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,590 James Ward could be that glue, not on his own. 141 00:08:59,950 --> 00:09:03,369 Ward's not enough. To get this over the line, 142 00:09:03,469 --> 00:09:07,368 we need further evidence to corroborate his version of events. 143 00:09:07,468 --> 00:09:10,228 My little brother was murdered 19 years ago. 144 00:09:12,027 --> 00:09:13,967 In that time, our family have been through 145 00:09:14,067 --> 00:09:17,486 four failed police investigations. 146 00:09:17,766 --> 00:09:21,785 The most recent of which, Operation Abelard, was run by you, 147 00:09:22,650 --> 00:09:25,130 DCS Cook. So forgive us if we're not 148 00:09:25,130 --> 00:09:26,910 jumping up and down 149 00:09:27,344 --> 00:09:30,143 because you think you might have found a new lead. 150 00:09:31,503 --> 00:09:33,070 I understand. 151 00:09:33,942 --> 00:09:37,001 Isobel, we appreciate that this can't be easy. 152 00:09:37,101 --> 00:09:39,310 But let me assure you, 153 00:09:39,741 --> 00:09:42,600 DCS Cook lives and breathes this case. 154 00:09:42,700 --> 00:09:46,559 No officer wants to find the people who killed your son 155 00:09:46,659 --> 00:09:49,430 and bring them to justice more than this man. 156 00:09:50,618 --> 00:09:54,670 You said, Detective Chief Superintendent Cook, 157 00:09:55,817 --> 00:09:59,436 that apart from this new witness, 158 00:09:59,536 --> 00:10:03,415 you said that you need further evidence. 159 00:10:05,134 --> 00:10:07,234 What sort of evidence? 160 00:10:07,334 --> 00:10:09,713 We need people talking. 161 00:10:09,813 --> 00:10:12,833 That means we need witnesses that can put our suspects at the scene. 162 00:10:12,933 --> 00:10:14,952 At least two, preferably more. 163 00:10:15,052 --> 00:10:18,771 Now, Ward said this was a South London open secret. 164 00:10:20,131 --> 00:10:23,030 Let's see if we can find anyone else out there saying the same thing. 165 00:10:23,130 --> 00:10:26,349 Let's see what we can catch from the suspects themself. 166 00:10:26,449 --> 00:10:29,269 Now, Garry and James Ward are both banged up for drug trafficking. 167 00:10:29,369 --> 00:10:31,828 The other two, we suspect, still up to no good. 168 00:10:31,928 --> 00:10:34,547 Jonathan Rees. Rees served four years 169 00:10:34,647 --> 00:10:36,787 for conspiring to plant cocaine on an innocent woman 170 00:10:36,887 --> 00:10:38,866 to help her ex win a child custody battle. 171 00:10:38,966 --> 00:10:41,906 He's out now and back working as a private investigator. 172 00:10:42,006 --> 00:10:45,305 Sid Fillery has just done three years community service 173 00:10:45,405 --> 00:10:47,464 for possession of indecent images of children. 174 00:10:47,564 --> 00:10:49,624 He's now running a pub in Norfolk. 175 00:10:49,724 --> 00:10:51,903 - You're joking. - I wish I was. 176 00:10:52,003 --> 00:10:54,742 We have taps on Rees's phone, and we have probes 177 00:10:54,842 --> 00:10:57,022 in the visitors' room of Garry Vian's nick. 178 00:10:57,122 --> 00:11:00,661 The DPS still own the house next door to Glenn Vian. 179 00:11:00,761 --> 00:11:04,585 So we reinstate the probes there. We go over the old files. 180 00:11:04,610 --> 00:11:08,139 All 200 crates of them. Let me know. 181 00:11:08,510 --> 00:11:11,410 Now, motive. Rumour has it that Daniel 182 00:11:11,510 --> 00:11:14,089 was about to sell a story about police corruption to the tabloids. 183 00:11:14,189 --> 00:11:16,208 Now, can we back this up? 184 00:11:16,308 --> 00:11:18,328 Other theories include sexual jealousy. 185 00:11:18,428 --> 00:11:21,207 Daniel and Rees were both linked to the same woman. 186 00:11:21,307 --> 00:11:25,126 Margaret Harrison. Rees and Harrison are still in a relationship. 187 00:11:25,226 --> 00:11:28,350 Are there any other motives out there? We follow them all. 188 00:11:29,310 --> 00:11:30,725 Any questions? 189 00:11:30,825 --> 00:11:34,604 I have a question. How, after all this time, 190 00:11:34,704 --> 00:11:37,303 do you propose to get people talking? 191 00:11:40,503 --> 00:11:41,870 Triggers. 192 00:11:43,470 --> 00:11:45,430 We need Mike Sullivan at The Sun. 193 00:11:46,590 --> 00:11:48,241 I've got good contacts at The Mirror and The Mail. 194 00:11:48,341 --> 00:11:49,465 We don't need The Sun. 195 00:11:49,490 --> 00:11:51,870 No, we need The Sun and we need their readership. 196 00:11:52,330 --> 00:11:54,309 John, we've been actively investigating 197 00:11:54,409 --> 00:11:57,129 the relationship between Jonathan Rees and The News of the World. 198 00:11:57,130 --> 00:11:59,748 The News of the World and The Sun are entirely separate publications. 199 00:11:59,848 --> 00:12:02,827 And Mike's... 200 00:12:03,190 --> 00:12:04,987 Mike's as solid as they come. 201 00:12:05,087 --> 00:12:07,026 If we ask him to keep this away from Rebekah, 202 00:12:07,126 --> 00:12:09,289 - he will keep this away from Rebekah. - No, no. Sorry. 203 00:12:09,290 --> 00:12:12,065 You just said they're entirely separate publications. 204 00:12:12,897 --> 00:12:14,551 I thought you knew. 205 00:12:15,291 --> 00:12:17,870 - Knew what? - Rebekah edits The Sun now. 206 00:12:18,790 --> 00:12:20,963 A guy called Andy Coulson took over at News of the World. 207 00:12:22,123 --> 00:12:23,590 Fuck. 208 00:12:24,202 --> 00:12:26,142 Do you really think this is a good idea? 209 00:12:26,242 --> 00:12:29,721 Yeah, I know these guys. If we play them right, 210 00:12:30,527 --> 00:12:33,587 they can be powerful allies. Powerful allies. 211 00:12:34,006 --> 00:12:35,985 And right now we need The Sun. 212 00:12:54,510 --> 00:12:56,094 Look, I'll level with you, here. 213 00:12:56,194 --> 00:12:58,049 I wanted to take this to another paper, 214 00:12:58,050 --> 00:12:59,950 but John Yates swears by you. 215 00:13:00,353 --> 00:13:03,373 Yeah, I've known John for years. Why did you want to go elsewhere? 216 00:13:03,473 --> 00:13:05,732 Don't like your editor. Plus, 217 00:13:05,832 --> 00:13:07,769 I've got concerns over one of your colleagues. 218 00:13:07,770 --> 00:13:10,990 - Alex Marunchak. - Oh. Yeah, him. 219 00:13:11,126 --> 00:13:12,630 I know he denies it. 220 00:13:12,655 --> 00:13:16,570 But I think it was him who sent his dogs after me and my family a few years back. 221 00:13:16,595 --> 00:13:18,894 He was trying to obstruct a criminal investigation. 222 00:13:18,894 --> 00:13:21,010 I took it to Rebekah. She did nothing. 223 00:13:21,011 --> 00:13:23,568 I mean, obviously, I can't speak as to what Alex 224 00:13:23,668 --> 00:13:26,327 may or may not have done, but he's not really my colleague. 225 00:13:26,427 --> 00:13:29,206 I mean, I have nothing to do with News of the World. 226 00:13:29,306 --> 00:13:32,470 I mean, I think he's at their Ireland desk, if I'm not mistaken. 227 00:13:33,185 --> 00:13:36,265 - And what about Rebekah? - Well, um, 228 00:13:37,624 --> 00:13:40,190 you'd just be dealing with me on this one. 229 00:13:40,584 --> 00:13:42,643 I mean, look, if you're going to trust me, DCS Cook, 230 00:13:42,743 --> 00:13:44,723 you're going to have to give me an opportunity 231 00:13:44,823 --> 00:13:46,942 - to earn that trust. - That's one of my lines. 232 00:13:48,961 --> 00:13:52,080 Tell me what I can do for you. 233 00:13:55,220 --> 00:13:57,520 Oh, come on, Kim. What does it say? 234 00:13:57,620 --> 00:13:59,879 Scotland Yard established a covert unit 235 00:13:59,979 --> 00:14:02,558 to investigate a private detective's murder. 236 00:14:02,658 --> 00:14:04,958 Rumoured to have been committed with the help of corrupt officers 237 00:14:05,058 --> 00:14:07,877 from the Metropolitan Police. 238 00:14:07,977 --> 00:14:12,076 Senior lead investigator, DCS David Cook 239 00:14:12,176 --> 00:14:17,235 said, "We will ensure the killers face the full force of the law." 240 00:14:17,335 --> 00:14:19,414 Cook. 241 00:14:20,214 --> 00:14:22,513 That's the same fella as before, yeah? 242 00:14:22,613 --> 00:14:24,753 Yeah, that's right. 243 00:14:24,853 --> 00:14:26,792 Have you seen the article? 244 00:14:26,892 --> 00:14:29,832 Trish reckons Wardy's gone and grassed. 245 00:14:29,932 --> 00:14:32,831 It's a joke, mate. This Dan Morgan thing's come up again. 246 00:14:32,931 --> 00:14:34,911 Sending people letters this time. 247 00:14:35,011 --> 00:14:38,490 Police want me to inform. Fucking cheek. 248 00:14:40,609 --> 00:14:42,949 The article's done nothing. We wanted Sharon to visit Garry. 249 00:14:43,049 --> 00:14:44,988 We wanted Jimmy Cook to call Glenn. 250 00:14:45,088 --> 00:14:47,028 They're not doing what they're supposed to be doing. 251 00:14:47,128 --> 00:14:49,107 - Give it time. - It's just pointless chat. 252 00:14:49,207 --> 00:14:51,227 - We can't use any of it. - Look, if nothing bites, 253 00:14:51,327 --> 00:14:54,526 - we ripple the pond again. - Rees. 254 00:14:55,726 --> 00:14:57,965 He's quiet. You think he knows we're listening? 255 00:14:59,085 --> 00:15:01,644 Well, he's a canny fucker and a paranoid one at that. 256 00:15:03,684 --> 00:15:05,923 No plan survives first contact with the enemy. 257 00:15:14,841 --> 00:15:17,100 We did a half page story for The Sunday Mirror 258 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,300 and got £550. 259 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:23,459 News of the World would have paid £1500. 260 00:15:23,559 --> 00:15:26,058 No one pays like News of the World. 261 00:15:40,595 --> 00:15:43,894 - Hello. - Dave, it's Mike at The Sun. 262 00:15:43,994 --> 00:15:46,270 He said his name is Gary Eaton. 263 00:15:46,510 --> 00:15:48,973 - And he called the news desk? - He'd seen the article. 264 00:15:49,073 --> 00:15:52,532 Said he worked in the drugs trade with Jimmy Cook for years. 265 00:15:52,632 --> 00:15:57,291 Mmm, I wrote a letter to Jimmy Cook asking him to inform, as a trigger. 266 00:15:57,391 --> 00:15:59,970 Well, it seems he's going around town firing warning shots. 267 00:16:00,070 --> 00:16:02,049 Eaton said that Cook paid a visit to his girlfriend, 268 00:16:02,149 --> 00:16:04,089 scared the shit out of her. He was sending 269 00:16:04,189 --> 00:16:06,168 a message to Eaton. We know where she lives, kind of thing, 270 00:16:06,268 --> 00:16:08,328 but doesn't seem to have had the desired effect. 271 00:16:08,428 --> 00:16:11,127 - Just pissed him off. - Think he's genuine? 272 00:16:11,227 --> 00:16:13,207 Could be a plant. 273 00:16:13,307 --> 00:16:15,346 I could smell his fear down the phone. 274 00:16:17,026 --> 00:16:19,365 I can't have direct contact with a potential witness, 275 00:16:19,465 --> 00:16:22,365 - but I'll send one of my team over. - No, he saw your name on the article. 276 00:16:22,465 --> 00:16:24,444 Said he'll only speak to you. 277 00:16:24,544 --> 00:16:26,544 Something about everyone at the Met being bent. 278 00:16:28,343 --> 00:16:30,343 Mmm. 279 00:16:36,221 --> 00:16:39,480 I left it on the fucking table 'cause I wanted you to fucking take it. 280 00:16:39,580 --> 00:16:41,820 Yep. That'll be them. 281 00:16:44,099 --> 00:16:46,779 - That's just not fair. - You open up, please, mate? 282 00:16:47,818 --> 00:16:49,938 Let me take that. 283 00:17:03,415 --> 00:17:06,214 - Hi, Gary. - Dave, yeah? 284 00:17:10,413 --> 00:17:14,312 - So, how was the journey? - Knackering. 285 00:17:14,412 --> 00:17:16,572 I'm knackered. I've not been sleeping. 286 00:17:18,451 --> 00:17:20,391 How long are you putting me up for? 287 00:17:20,491 --> 00:17:24,670 Well, that's kind of up to you. So why aren't you sleeping? 288 00:17:24,770 --> 00:17:26,809 - Because I'm worried, ain't I? - About what? 289 00:17:27,689 --> 00:17:30,908 Them coming after me. JC is a dangerous man. 290 00:17:31,008 --> 00:17:34,867 Everyone's shit scared of Jimmy Cook. He lives off fear, that bloke. 291 00:17:34,967 --> 00:17:38,426 He knows I know about Sid. He knows I know about virtually everything. 292 00:17:38,526 --> 00:17:40,866 Well, we do have ways to protect you. 293 00:17:40,966 --> 00:17:42,905 Yeah, right. 294 00:17:43,005 --> 00:17:47,024 Look, I can understand if you don't trust us. 295 00:17:47,124 --> 00:17:49,124 But to be honest, 296 00:17:49,564 --> 00:17:52,163 I'm not sure I entirely trust you just yet either. 297 00:17:53,243 --> 00:17:55,382 See, Gary, I'm just trying to figure out 298 00:17:55,482 --> 00:17:57,662 what it is you've actually got. 299 00:17:57,762 --> 00:18:00,061 And how valuable that is to us. 300 00:18:00,161 --> 00:18:02,840 I can give you Sid and I can give you Jimmy. Okay? 301 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,579 But I need guarantees. 302 00:18:06,679 --> 00:18:10,219 Because the thing is, right, the people that are involved in this, 303 00:18:10,319 --> 00:18:12,738 you have to have them as well. Because if they don't all go... 304 00:18:12,838 --> 00:18:14,777 - Give me the name of the brothers. - If they don't all go, 305 00:18:14,877 --> 00:18:16,057 then I'm at risk all the time. 306 00:18:16,157 --> 00:18:18,417 Gary, give me the name of the brothers. 307 00:18:18,517 --> 00:18:20,496 What, you want the main person of the brothers? 308 00:18:20,596 --> 00:18:22,856 - Yeah. - We've just been talking about it. 309 00:18:22,956 --> 00:18:25,295 - It's Jimmy. - No, the other one that was there. 310 00:18:25,395 --> 00:18:29,494 I don't know, man. I don't know any of them. I just know about Jimmy. 311 00:18:29,594 --> 00:18:32,033 Jimmy was there. Okay. 312 00:18:33,713 --> 00:18:36,812 I know who was involved. 313 00:18:36,912 --> 00:18:40,931 Look, Jimmy had massive involvement in this, yeah? Massive involvement. 314 00:18:41,031 --> 00:18:43,171 - You can dance all day, mate. - I'm not dancing, Dave. 315 00:18:43,271 --> 00:18:46,810 I will help you. I will help you, but I'm just wary. 316 00:18:46,910 --> 00:18:49,609 That's all. I'm just being careful. 317 00:18:49,709 --> 00:18:51,949 Okay, I understand. 318 00:19:03,026 --> 00:19:05,165 I was approached to do it myself. 319 00:19:05,265 --> 00:19:07,265 The murder. 320 00:19:10,384 --> 00:19:13,503 - Okay, tell us about the approach. - I was approached by Jimmy. 321 00:19:15,103 --> 00:19:17,582 - How much did they offer? - Fifty grand. 322 00:19:18,662 --> 00:19:20,602 - And it is a... - Fifty grand cash. 323 00:19:20,702 --> 00:19:22,741 I swear on my life. I swear on my kids' lives. 324 00:19:26,620 --> 00:19:28,560 Why did they kill him? 325 00:19:28,660 --> 00:19:31,139 The impression I got was that he got wind of the others' dealings. 326 00:19:32,499 --> 00:19:34,438 'Cos if anything, John Rees 327 00:19:34,538 --> 00:19:37,717 had all sorts of other things going on in the partnership, yeah. 328 00:19:37,817 --> 00:19:39,917 - I wanna have a shower. - No, no, no. This is good. 329 00:19:40,017 --> 00:19:41,996 Tell me about Rees's involvement in this. 330 00:19:42,096 --> 00:19:44,796 What, John? He didn't have any involvement in the actual murder. 331 00:19:44,896 --> 00:19:47,995 I'm not saying he was involved in the murder, but did he play a part? 332 00:19:48,095 --> 00:19:50,554 Did he... Did he put it up? Did he cover it up? 333 00:19:50,654 --> 00:19:54,393 Yeah, he's aware of it. Yeah. Yeah. 334 00:19:54,493 --> 00:19:57,153 He had involvement in that side of things. I'm 99 percent sure of that. 335 00:19:57,253 --> 00:20:01,232 - Right, that's it for today, boys. - Er... One last question. 336 00:20:01,332 --> 00:20:03,331 Just one. 337 00:20:05,091 --> 00:20:08,350 Why didn't you kill Daniel Morgan? 338 00:20:08,450 --> 00:20:11,069 Why didn't you take the job? 339 00:20:11,169 --> 00:20:13,729 Because I met him a few times and he seemed like a nice bloke. 340 00:20:15,968 --> 00:20:18,828 - He just walked in off the street. - Well, I know it's suspicious. 341 00:20:18,928 --> 00:20:20,907 But nothing, he said, undermines Ward's evidence. 342 00:20:21,007 --> 00:20:23,866 I don't think he has any idea who Ward is. 343 00:20:23,966 --> 00:20:26,866 He's given us lots on Jimmy Cook, a bit on Fillery, 344 00:20:26,966 --> 00:20:29,065 nothing on the Vian brothers. 345 00:20:29,165 --> 00:20:31,824 I don't know whether that's deliberate. And motive? 346 00:20:31,924 --> 00:20:34,224 He reckons that Morgan was onto some dodgy dealings between 347 00:20:34,324 --> 00:20:37,143 - Rees and Fillery at Southern. - Well, coming in and confessing 348 00:20:37,243 --> 00:20:39,663 to crimes which could see him locked up for some time 349 00:20:39,763 --> 00:20:41,702 - is certainly unusual. - It could work in favour 350 00:20:41,802 --> 00:20:44,741 - of his credibility. - Either way, it's expensive. 351 00:20:44,841 --> 00:20:46,941 Ward's costing us 90 grand a month, and he's already banged up. 352 00:20:47,041 --> 00:20:49,460 See, I think that Gary Eaton could be our golden goose. 353 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,780 Right, well, let me talk to some people. 354 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,879 - How long do you need? - Could be a few weeks. 355 00:20:56,958 --> 00:20:58,958 Right. 356 00:21:01,437 --> 00:21:03,457 Right, it's not exactly protocol, 357 00:21:03,557 --> 00:21:05,856 but until we get the green light from upstairs, 358 00:21:05,956 --> 00:21:08,576 Gary Eaton belongs to no one. 359 00:21:08,676 --> 00:21:11,055 He's a free man. He can do what he likes. 360 00:21:11,155 --> 00:21:15,874 He can walk anytime. He can talk and he will talk. 361 00:21:17,194 --> 00:21:20,853 And the people he's grassing could find him, silence him or worse. 362 00:21:20,953 --> 00:21:23,212 We cannot let that happen. 363 00:21:23,312 --> 00:21:27,251 So for three weeks, until the debrief team takes over, 364 00:21:27,351 --> 00:21:29,631 we are all on babysitting duty. 365 00:21:30,870 --> 00:21:33,210 - Hello? - Dave, it's Gary. 366 00:21:33,310 --> 00:21:36,969 - Oh, hi, Gary. - Right. We need another 20 quid. 367 00:21:37,069 --> 00:21:39,288 Julie's been on the scratch cards, yeah? 368 00:21:39,388 --> 00:21:41,328 We pay his hotel. 369 00:21:41,428 --> 00:21:45,447 We go to Tesco. We buy his fags. We charge his phone. 370 00:21:45,547 --> 00:21:48,326 We even wipe his fucking arse, if we have to. 371 00:21:48,426 --> 00:21:50,366 - All of this? - Yep. 372 00:21:52,625 --> 00:21:55,364 - Hello? - Dave, it's Gary. 373 00:21:55,464 --> 00:21:59,083 Julie thinks that the woman at the front desk is being funny with us. 374 00:21:59,183 --> 00:22:02,483 - Can you have a word? - With Julie? 375 00:22:02,583 --> 00:22:05,242 No, with the woman at the fucking front desk, mate. 376 00:22:05,342 --> 00:22:07,601 We do not let him out of our sight. 377 00:22:07,701 --> 00:22:09,681 - All right? - Dave, it's Gary. 378 00:22:09,781 --> 00:22:11,720 Look, there's something wrong with the telly. 379 00:22:11,820 --> 00:22:14,860 - What's the matter with the telly? - I couldn't get Channel 4. 380 00:22:18,699 --> 00:22:21,778 We cannot afford to lose this witness. 381 00:22:23,018 --> 00:22:27,137 We cannot, and we fucking will not lose Gary Eaton. 382 00:22:28,736 --> 00:22:30,716 Is that understood? 383 00:22:35,455 --> 00:22:38,154 It's early days with this new witness. 384 00:22:38,254 --> 00:22:41,673 He had to establish whether he can stand up as a witness of truth. 385 00:22:41,773 --> 00:22:45,392 Understood. Completely. And thank you. 386 00:22:45,492 --> 00:22:47,952 For letting me into your, erm... 387 00:22:48,052 --> 00:22:51,591 Into the inner sanctum? 388 00:22:51,691 --> 00:22:53,970 You're more than welcome, Alastair. It's the least we can do. 389 00:23:01,488 --> 00:23:03,488 I remember when I got the call. 390 00:23:06,447 --> 00:23:08,647 Mum rang and she said, "Your brother's dead." 391 00:23:10,766 --> 00:23:12,766 I couldn't take it in. 392 00:23:14,725 --> 00:23:17,445 Every time I went back to the pub, I still can't take it in. 393 00:23:19,244 --> 00:23:21,384 It was a dangerous line of work. 394 00:23:21,484 --> 00:23:25,803 He did a lot of debt collecting in the early days, that sort of thing. 395 00:23:26,922 --> 00:23:28,902 He was actually very brave. 396 00:23:29,002 --> 00:23:32,121 - He stood his ground, you know. - I'm sure he did. 397 00:23:33,201 --> 00:23:36,640 I'm sure he was... brave. 398 00:23:43,118 --> 00:23:45,118 What's going on with Rees? 399 00:23:45,438 --> 00:23:48,217 To be honest, we're not hearing very much, 400 00:23:48,317 --> 00:23:50,577 but, erm, well, likely up to his old tricks. 401 00:23:50,677 --> 00:23:53,296 Can I share something with you? 402 00:23:53,396 --> 00:23:56,315 I'm worried that Jonathan Rees is, um, well... 403 00:23:59,354 --> 00:24:02,614 I think he may have discovered some new tricks. 404 00:24:02,714 --> 00:24:05,253 It's a bug, called a Trojan. 405 00:24:05,353 --> 00:24:07,572 Alastair Morgan found one in his laptop. 406 00:24:07,672 --> 00:24:10,572 He's concerned that Jonathan Rees or one of his minions 407 00:24:10,672 --> 00:24:12,931 might be behind it, email hacking, basically. 408 00:24:13,031 --> 00:24:15,770 So I've put in some antivirus software. 409 00:24:15,870 --> 00:24:19,090 That should take care of it. Listen, I need yours. 410 00:24:19,190 --> 00:24:21,449 Need your laptop, honey. 411 00:24:21,549 --> 00:24:25,608 If you think that we're being hacked, we call witness protection. 412 00:24:25,708 --> 00:24:28,187 It's safer if I just handle it. 413 00:24:29,507 --> 00:24:31,967 You see, what I don't understand is whether there's support 414 00:24:32,067 --> 00:24:34,646 and you just won't take it or whether they're just handing you 415 00:24:34,746 --> 00:24:36,725 another poisonous chalice and running a mile. 416 00:24:36,825 --> 00:24:38,805 Look, it could be nothing. Bugs can come from anywhere. 417 00:24:38,905 --> 00:24:40,844 It could be something, though, couldn't it? It could be something 418 00:24:40,944 --> 00:24:44,124 extremely serious. We could be under surveillance again. 419 00:24:44,224 --> 00:24:46,203 Or it could just be a coincidence. 420 00:24:46,303 --> 00:24:49,162 - That's the thing about coincidences. - No, I said, I won't do this again. 421 00:24:57,140 --> 00:24:59,140 - Hello? - Dave? 422 00:25:00,180 --> 00:25:02,719 - Dave, I'm in a bad way, mate. - Oh, hi, Gary. 423 00:25:02,819 --> 00:25:06,638 - Julie's gone off on one. - Listen... Gary, I'm sorry. 424 00:25:06,738 --> 00:25:08,678 I'm going to have to put you on hold, okay? Wait a second. 425 00:25:08,778 --> 00:25:10,797 No, please, Dave, please. 426 00:25:10,897 --> 00:25:13,157 - Go ahead. - Sir. 427 00:25:13,257 --> 00:25:15,356 There's been an incident with Gary Eaton. 428 00:25:15,456 --> 00:25:17,516 We've had to intervene to relocate the girlfriend. 429 00:25:17,616 --> 00:25:20,635 - What happened? - She wants to end the relationship. 430 00:25:20,735 --> 00:25:23,754 - She claims to be frightened of him. - Was there violence? 431 00:25:23,854 --> 00:25:25,834 No. But in the short time I was with her, 432 00:25:25,934 --> 00:25:29,113 she received over 20 phone calls and a number of abusive texts. 433 00:25:29,213 --> 00:25:31,672 - Okay, thanks for letting me know. - Sir. 434 00:25:31,772 --> 00:25:33,712 Gary, you still there? 435 00:25:33,812 --> 00:25:36,271 All right, listen, calm down. 436 00:25:36,371 --> 00:25:38,710 Calm down. Just take it easy. 437 00:25:38,810 --> 00:25:42,090 Gary Eaton has been phoning you on your mobile? 438 00:25:43,129 --> 00:25:46,629 Yes. Regularly. 439 00:25:46,729 --> 00:25:48,808 - What does that mean? - Sometimes daily. 440 00:25:50,208 --> 00:25:53,027 - And this has been going on for? - Some time. 441 00:25:53,127 --> 00:25:55,626 It was small stuff. I thought I could handle it. 442 00:25:55,726 --> 00:25:57,666 And you're telling me about this now, because? 443 00:25:57,766 --> 00:26:01,765 It's of concern at this point. It's potentially... 444 00:26:03,644 --> 00:26:05,644 - Concerning? - Yes. 445 00:26:09,683 --> 00:26:11,683 You ever play golf, Dave? 446 00:26:12,762 --> 00:26:15,462 - Never. - Well, you should. 447 00:26:16,115 --> 00:26:18,114 Does wonders for perspective. 448 00:26:19,841 --> 00:26:22,280 All right. This will... 449 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,539 come out and there are going to be questions. 450 00:26:25,639 --> 00:26:29,218 Questions as to what an officer of your rank is doing, 451 00:26:29,318 --> 00:26:31,818 taking direct phone calls from a protected witness. 452 00:26:31,918 --> 00:26:35,857 Questions as to why, when you have so much under your remit, 453 00:26:35,957 --> 00:26:39,216 you would concern yourself so personally with such a detail. 454 00:26:39,316 --> 00:26:44,375 And why you, of all people, would choose a course of action 455 00:26:44,475 --> 00:26:48,154 that could severely compromise this entire invest... 456 00:26:50,593 --> 00:26:53,532 - Why is he calling you? - Cos I'm the only person he trusts. 457 00:26:53,632 --> 00:26:55,572 Look, I know you like to think of yourself 458 00:26:55,672 --> 00:26:57,651 as some kind of maverick, and you do things your own way. 459 00:26:57,751 --> 00:26:59,731 He hates his debrief team... 460 00:26:59,831 --> 00:27:03,930 he's extremely vulnerable. He's unwell. 461 00:27:04,030 --> 00:27:06,869 I believe him to be a genuine suicide risk. 462 00:27:08,029 --> 00:27:12,328 If I don't pick up and something happens or he does something stupid, 463 00:27:12,428 --> 00:27:14,427 I cannot... 464 00:27:16,347 --> 00:27:18,346 I got him into this situation, John. 465 00:27:19,786 --> 00:27:22,026 I cannot have Gary Eaton on my conscience. 466 00:27:24,265 --> 00:27:26,285 Well, witness protection wanna drop him. 467 00:27:26,385 --> 00:27:28,784 No, no. He's handed over 70 grand. 468 00:27:29,784 --> 00:27:33,363 Admitted to crimes that could see him go down for 20 years. 469 00:27:33,463 --> 00:27:36,342 I know he's hard work, but I believe he's valuable. 470 00:27:38,142 --> 00:27:40,321 Look, 471 00:27:40,421 --> 00:27:43,200 I appreciate the complexity of the situation, 472 00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:47,179 but you cannot be taking phone calls from a protected witness. 473 00:27:48,739 --> 00:27:52,118 From today, you will have no further contact with Gary Eaton, whatsoever. 474 00:27:52,218 --> 00:27:54,218 - Okay? - Yeah. 475 00:27:57,337 --> 00:28:01,416 And I'm serious about the golf. 476 00:28:04,055 --> 00:28:06,055 I'll look into it. 477 00:28:50,404 --> 00:28:52,384 I found a bug. 478 00:28:52,484 --> 00:28:55,103 It's the fucking old bill, they're trying to listen to us. 479 00:28:55,203 --> 00:28:58,362 He reckons the fellas next door are coppers from Hendon. 480 00:28:59,562 --> 00:29:02,181 What if he goes in and bashes the door down? 481 00:29:02,281 --> 00:29:04,541 - It's expensive kit. - No, it's well hidden. 482 00:29:04,641 --> 00:29:07,320 Thought no plan survives first contact with the enemy? 483 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,819 Is now a good or a bad time for more bad news? 484 00:29:11,919 --> 00:29:15,098 - Good, I think. - A journalist called. 485 00:29:15,198 --> 00:29:17,738 Said a hack from another paper tried to sell him a story. 486 00:29:17,838 --> 00:29:20,297 - About you and your wife. - Oh, Jesus. 487 00:29:20,397 --> 00:29:22,337 And did he mention if the hack had a name? 488 00:29:22,437 --> 00:29:25,116 Yes, it's Alex Marunchak. 489 00:29:29,195 --> 00:29:31,754 - Right. - Okay. 490 00:29:35,033 --> 00:29:37,033 I'll leave it with you. 491 00:29:41,312 --> 00:29:43,771 I mean, it's not even a story. 492 00:29:43,871 --> 00:29:45,851 Jacqui registered a business interest 493 00:29:45,951 --> 00:29:48,090 with the Met. My name is on the paperwork. That's it. 494 00:29:48,190 --> 00:29:50,130 All completely above board. 495 00:29:50,230 --> 00:29:52,209 I don't understand how this is a story. 496 00:29:52,309 --> 00:29:54,289 Which is why they didn't touch it. Which is why 497 00:29:54,389 --> 00:29:57,288 no one else in Fleet Street will touch it. It'll go away. 498 00:29:57,388 --> 00:29:59,408 Maybe so. But someone with access 499 00:29:59,508 --> 00:30:03,207 to confidential police records is talking to Marunchak. 500 00:30:03,307 --> 00:30:05,326 Maybe one of my own team, could be any one of my colleagues. 501 00:30:05,426 --> 00:30:07,406 And they're talking directly to Rees. 502 00:30:07,506 --> 00:30:10,325 - Have you reported it? - To who? 503 00:30:10,425 --> 00:30:12,404 I mean, if you think they're coming after you personally, 504 00:30:12,504 --> 00:30:15,324 you're going to need protection, surely. There must be a system. 505 00:30:15,424 --> 00:30:18,843 Mate, mate, listen, The last time this happened, I went to my bosses. 506 00:30:18,943 --> 00:30:21,562 You know what they said? They said this is being dealt with 507 00:30:21,662 --> 00:30:23,602 in the bigger picture. 508 00:30:23,702 --> 00:30:26,281 I had a van following me and my kids to school. 509 00:30:26,381 --> 00:30:28,401 I had some fucker in my garden with a camera. 510 00:30:28,501 --> 00:30:30,440 - My wife thought it was a gun. - I'm sorry. 511 00:30:30,540 --> 00:30:33,819 I didn't know it was that bad. I mean, who else knows about this? 512 00:30:34,899 --> 00:30:36,899 Well, that's my point. Nobody knows. 513 00:30:37,938 --> 00:30:40,118 Daniel Morgan's family. Do they know what you went through? 514 00:30:40,218 --> 00:30:42,197 - They've got enough on their plate. - They would have been on the phone 515 00:30:42,297 --> 00:30:44,237 to the commissioner, the home secretary, everyone. 516 00:30:44,337 --> 00:30:46,676 Yeah. And what good would that have done? My higher ups 517 00:30:46,776 --> 00:30:49,116 knew that you lot were trying to disrupt 518 00:30:49,216 --> 00:30:51,795 a major criminal investigation, and they did nothing. 519 00:30:51,895 --> 00:30:55,014 They sat in their arses and watched it happen. Hung me out to dry. 520 00:30:56,534 --> 00:30:59,153 Since when did we become the targets? 521 00:30:59,253 --> 00:31:01,833 How is this in any way in the public interest? 522 00:31:01,933 --> 00:31:04,552 I'm sorry, mate. I mean, I'm... 523 00:31:04,652 --> 00:31:06,691 I'm really sorry. 524 00:31:09,971 --> 00:31:11,970 Right. 525 00:31:18,529 --> 00:31:21,548 - Hi. - Hi. 526 00:31:21,648 --> 00:31:23,627 Sorry I'm late. 527 00:31:23,727 --> 00:31:25,727 Plate's in the oven. 528 00:31:29,486 --> 00:31:31,465 - Everything okay? - Yeah, fine. 529 00:31:31,565 --> 00:31:33,705 You sure? 530 00:31:33,805 --> 00:31:35,804 Meeting overran. 531 00:32:32,751 --> 00:32:36,490 That's it. Okay, so she's a brave girl. Or a silly one. 532 00:32:47,067 --> 00:32:49,287 You see, I thought 533 00:32:49,387 --> 00:32:53,006 - that was really good. - It's pish, innit? 534 00:32:53,106 --> 00:32:56,485 David Seaman. Wouldn't get a game for Kilmarnock. 535 00:33:00,744 --> 00:33:04,243 - Hey, Gary. - Dave, I can't do it. 536 00:33:04,343 --> 00:33:07,962 - I just can't do it. - Look, here's the thing. 537 00:33:08,062 --> 00:33:10,322 You either need to sort yourself out and 538 00:33:10,422 --> 00:33:12,401 - we crack on with this or we don't. - Okay. 539 00:33:12,501 --> 00:33:14,960 And you need to tell your team the truth. 540 00:33:15,060 --> 00:33:17,200 Because we cannot go on like this. We really can't. 541 00:33:22,899 --> 00:33:25,158 All right, there's something you need to know. 542 00:33:25,258 --> 00:33:27,877 I was there. 543 00:33:27,977 --> 00:33:30,257 - You were where, Gary? - I was at the Golden Lion, 544 00:33:31,936 --> 00:33:34,176 the night Daniel Morgan was killed. 545 00:33:35,975 --> 00:33:38,035 I was in the car park. 546 00:33:38,135 --> 00:33:41,194 They invited me to have a drink that night, didn't know why. 547 00:33:41,294 --> 00:33:43,634 I thought it had something to do with planning a theft. 548 00:33:43,734 --> 00:33:46,433 - Who's "they", Gary? - Jimmy Cook. 549 00:33:46,533 --> 00:33:48,512 So you went to the Golden Lion, that night? 550 00:33:48,612 --> 00:33:50,752 Yeah, just sat by the door. 551 00:33:50,852 --> 00:33:52,851 And I saw Daniel come in. 552 00:33:55,011 --> 00:33:57,150 He was talking with John Rees. 553 00:33:57,250 --> 00:33:59,310 And there was some woman 554 00:33:59,410 --> 00:34:01,469 - with them as well. - Who was she? 555 00:34:01,569 --> 00:34:03,649 I don't know. I'd never seen her before. 556 00:34:05,688 --> 00:34:08,348 And this bloke. 557 00:34:08,448 --> 00:34:10,427 He taps me on the shoulder and tells me he wants 558 00:34:10,527 --> 00:34:12,467 to talk to me in the gents. 559 00:34:12,567 --> 00:34:17,105 He was one of the brothers. Scott, I think it was. 560 00:34:17,205 --> 00:34:19,205 The other brother's called Glenn. 561 00:34:20,245 --> 00:34:22,244 Can't remember. 562 00:34:24,964 --> 00:34:26,903 So he told me to go to the gents, and, erm, 563 00:34:29,283 --> 00:34:31,942 and then we went out back, cos he said 564 00:34:32,042 --> 00:34:34,201 Jimmy wanted to have a word with me in the car park. 565 00:34:35,321 --> 00:34:39,940 And we went out to the car park... 566 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,039 and I saw Daniel lying there. 567 00:34:46,678 --> 00:34:48,678 And the axe was still... 568 00:34:49,758 --> 00:34:51,757 It was still in his head. 569 00:34:54,117 --> 00:34:56,116 And Glenn was with Jimmy in the car. 570 00:34:58,276 --> 00:35:00,275 And they drove off. 571 00:35:02,275 --> 00:35:04,274 And Jimmy winked at me as they drove off. 572 00:35:07,713 --> 00:35:09,713 He fucking winked at me. 573 00:35:12,472 --> 00:35:14,692 The only thing I don't understand is if you're going to murder someone, 574 00:35:14,792 --> 00:35:16,811 why bring along a witness? 575 00:35:16,911 --> 00:35:18,891 Why did they bring Eaton into the pub that night? 576 00:35:18,991 --> 00:35:21,210 Were they trying to implicate him? 577 00:35:21,310 --> 00:35:23,290 Well, he already knew about the murder because they originally 578 00:35:23,390 --> 00:35:25,409 asked him to do it. 579 00:35:25,509 --> 00:35:27,528 So if you can be traced to the scene, 580 00:35:27,628 --> 00:35:29,808 you're not going to go around shooting your mouth off, are you? 581 00:35:29,908 --> 00:35:32,447 - Hmm. - It was a warning, 582 00:35:32,547 --> 00:35:35,906 - a strategy to buy his silence. - A risky strategy. 583 00:35:36,906 --> 00:35:38,906 So what else you got? 584 00:35:42,665 --> 00:35:46,504 Two men, sitting by the door. Here. 585 00:35:47,664 --> 00:35:50,043 And no one at the time could ID him. 586 00:35:50,143 --> 00:35:53,242 - And that's where Eaton says he was. - That's exactly where he says he was. 587 00:35:53,342 --> 00:35:57,441 Before Scott, who we have to assume was Garry Vian, took him 588 00:35:57,541 --> 00:36:01,700 to the gents' toilets and then outside. 589 00:36:02,700 --> 00:36:05,659 - Fits. - It does. 590 00:36:07,499 --> 00:36:10,158 - It does fit. - So, do we believe him? 591 00:36:10,258 --> 00:36:12,738 It doesn't matter whether we believe him, Graham. 592 00:36:13,737 --> 00:36:15,737 What matters is, can we make it stick? 593 00:36:25,215 --> 00:36:27,294 - Thank you. - Thanks. 594 00:36:34,812 --> 00:36:37,192 - You look really nice. - So do you. 595 00:36:37,292 --> 00:36:39,291 Well, thank you. 596 00:36:40,531 --> 00:36:43,170 - We should do this more often. - We should get some drinks. 597 00:36:44,850 --> 00:36:48,249 - You okay? - I'm fine. I'm just tired. 598 00:36:49,609 --> 00:36:51,608 - Yeah, you keep saying that. - Because I am. 599 00:36:53,168 --> 00:36:56,167 We reduced your hours. I was hoping that might make a difference. 600 00:36:59,326 --> 00:37:03,505 Look, I'm really trying to find a way out of this, Jacqui. 601 00:37:03,605 --> 00:37:05,605 - For everyone. - You're trying? 602 00:37:07,444 --> 00:37:09,424 I'm trying to help you. I'm trying to solve the case. 603 00:37:09,524 --> 00:37:11,523 You're trying to help me? 604 00:37:12,643 --> 00:37:15,063 You make out like you're doing everything, but I'm around. 605 00:37:15,163 --> 00:37:17,162 I try to be around. 606 00:37:19,801 --> 00:37:22,401 Even when you're with us, you're not with us, David. 607 00:37:23,441 --> 00:37:26,860 You're distant with the kids. You're tense all the time. 608 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,119 I feel like I'm walking on egg shells. 609 00:37:35,198 --> 00:37:37,197 I'm really sorry. 610 00:37:38,717 --> 00:37:40,716 I'm just tired, you know? 611 00:37:42,076 --> 00:37:44,076 I'm not sleeping properly. 612 00:37:45,635 --> 00:37:48,934 I keep getting these dizzy spells. 613 00:37:49,034 --> 00:37:51,034 Because I'm tired, I think. 614 00:37:53,833 --> 00:37:55,833 I don't feel safe. 615 00:37:57,032 --> 00:37:58,972 Little things are just setting me off, 616 00:37:59,072 --> 00:38:01,811 and I'm doing everything I possibly can. 617 00:38:01,911 --> 00:38:04,731 But I just feel like I'm going backwards. 618 00:38:04,831 --> 00:38:07,650 It was never meant to be like this. 619 00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:10,309 I really am sorry. Truly sorry. 620 00:38:11,709 --> 00:38:13,708 Thank you. 621 00:38:17,508 --> 00:38:20,027 You know, we are in a situation where it's like... 622 00:38:21,307 --> 00:38:23,766 It's like we're drowning. 623 00:38:23,866 --> 00:38:27,405 And when you're drowning, you need to get out of the water, right? 624 00:38:27,505 --> 00:38:29,445 Right. 625 00:38:29,545 --> 00:38:31,864 But we can't get out of the water. 626 00:38:34,623 --> 00:38:36,623 So we just have to find a way 627 00:38:39,422 --> 00:38:41,422 to get used to it. 628 00:38:48,740 --> 00:38:52,499 Is that your solution, to get used to the water? 629 00:38:55,498 --> 00:38:58,318 I don't know what else you want me to say. 630 00:39:20,452 --> 00:39:22,592 - Guv? - Yep. 631 00:39:22,692 --> 00:39:25,311 - Can I have a word? - Yes. 632 00:39:25,411 --> 00:39:27,651 Gary's given us a new witness. 633 00:39:28,690 --> 00:39:31,070 - And who's that? - She's called Lindsey Wright. 634 00:39:31,170 --> 00:39:35,289 An ex of Jimmy Cook. Gary said she might talk. 635 00:39:37,208 --> 00:39:41,507 This is all off the record, yeah? I mean, I'm not being recorded or... 636 00:39:41,607 --> 00:39:43,667 Yes, Lindsey. Off the record. 637 00:39:43,767 --> 00:39:45,786 And you can't say who gave you my name? 638 00:39:45,886 --> 00:39:50,345 I protected the witness, and we can't give you any further details. 639 00:39:50,445 --> 00:39:52,805 Told us that you used to go out with Jimmy Cook. 640 00:39:53,844 --> 00:39:56,164 Said you might know something about Daniel Morgan? 641 00:39:58,163 --> 00:40:01,182 Jimmy and I saw each other for about eight years. 642 00:40:01,282 --> 00:40:04,062 It weren't up to much. He never took me places. 643 00:40:04,162 --> 00:40:06,261 He only saw me when it suited him. 644 00:40:06,361 --> 00:40:08,361 I don't know much about Morgan. 645 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,040 Jimmy did say some stuff, though. 646 00:40:14,279 --> 00:40:16,319 Anything you remember would be great. 647 00:40:18,598 --> 00:40:20,578 Well, the guy who did it was a nutter. 648 00:40:20,678 --> 00:40:22,617 Big bloke from Croydon. 649 00:40:22,717 --> 00:40:25,237 Might have worked the doors of clubs, sometimes. Er... 650 00:40:27,076 --> 00:40:29,716 - Can't remember his name. - Could his name been Garry or Glenn? 651 00:40:30,915 --> 00:40:33,635 Yeah, Glenn. It was Glenn. 652 00:40:35,034 --> 00:40:38,733 And the murder was about a woman and John Rees 653 00:40:38,833 --> 00:40:41,733 had a go at Daniel in the car park before he was killed. 654 00:40:41,833 --> 00:40:45,172 I think it was him that took him out into the car park. 655 00:40:45,772 --> 00:40:47,771 But that's all I really remember. 656 00:40:49,471 --> 00:40:51,410 How would you feel, Lindsey, 657 00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:54,170 about coming into the station and making a statement? 658 00:40:54,270 --> 00:40:59,808 Oh, no. No, I can't do that. 659 00:40:59,908 --> 00:41:01,888 We all know what Jimmy's capable of. 660 00:41:01,988 --> 00:41:04,267 If we can find a way to keep you safe. 661 00:41:05,987 --> 00:41:08,166 You said I didn't have to. It was off the record. 662 00:41:08,266 --> 00:41:10,666 You don't have to do anything you don't want to do. 663 00:41:12,065 --> 00:41:14,325 How about we, erm, give you a call, 664 00:41:14,425 --> 00:41:16,804 - come back later... - No, no. 665 00:41:16,904 --> 00:41:20,803 Don't call me and don't come back. The thing is, it's my memory. 666 00:41:20,903 --> 00:41:22,883 It's my antidepressants, they mess with my head. 667 00:41:22,983 --> 00:41:25,082 I can't be sure of anything I just said. 668 00:41:25,182 --> 00:41:28,082 Nah, it's all a mess, if I'm honest. 669 00:41:28,182 --> 00:41:30,241 The only thing I can say for sure, 670 00:41:30,341 --> 00:41:32,820 is that Jimmy Cook definitely didn't do it. 671 00:41:39,219 --> 00:41:42,498 - I'm sorry, Guv. - Aye. 672 00:42:37,645 --> 00:42:39,624 All very encouraging, 673 00:42:39,724 --> 00:42:42,384 particularly the correlation between Ward and Eaton. 674 00:42:42,484 --> 00:42:44,983 Just tell me what the CPS want. 675 00:42:45,083 --> 00:42:47,862 Well, the call log for Gary Eaton's incomplete. 676 00:42:47,962 --> 00:42:50,782 I'll get that to you. 677 00:42:50,882 --> 00:42:53,101 And what about this potential new witness, 678 00:42:53,201 --> 00:42:55,201 er, Cook's ex, Lindsey Wright? 679 00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,739 Well, the story's golden, but we haven't managed to pin her down yet. 680 00:42:59,839 --> 00:43:02,719 She'd make a difference. Is she pinnable? 681 00:43:03,759 --> 00:43:05,758 Yeah, she's pinnable. 682 00:43:11,637 --> 00:43:14,816 Police! 683 00:43:17,155 --> 00:43:19,135 Whatever they think was happening with the credit cards, 684 00:43:19,235 --> 00:43:21,374 it's got nothing to do with me. 685 00:43:21,474 --> 00:43:23,974 I ain't done nothing. Can you tell 'em? 686 00:43:24,074 --> 00:43:26,613 Look, all we know is that Surrey police are considering charging 687 00:43:26,713 --> 00:43:29,372 you and your boyfriend with conspiracy to defraud. 688 00:43:29,472 --> 00:43:31,732 Now, we don't know what that's based on. 689 00:43:31,832 --> 00:43:34,931 But they don't go raiding people's homes for nothing, Lindsey. 690 00:43:35,031 --> 00:43:38,210 So what we do know is, if you decide to come in and help us, 691 00:43:38,310 --> 00:43:40,310 you could end up in a lot less trouble. 692 00:43:42,189 --> 00:43:44,169 You did this on purpose. 693 00:43:44,269 --> 00:43:46,608 Sorry, but this is an entirely separate division, Lindsey. 694 00:43:46,708 --> 00:43:48,648 - This wasn't us. - We're just here to 695 00:43:48,748 --> 00:43:51,347 offer you a way out. That's all. 696 00:43:52,867 --> 00:43:56,566 We'll give you a call later, while you consider your choices. 697 00:43:56,666 --> 00:43:59,105 It doesn't look like I've got a sodding choice, though, does it? 698 00:44:01,864 --> 00:44:04,364 Come on. I'll take you back in. 699 00:44:04,464 --> 00:44:07,263 Come on. 700 00:44:31,937 --> 00:44:33,937 What's going on? 701 00:44:37,576 --> 00:44:39,575 Where are the kids? 702 00:44:41,215 --> 00:44:43,674 They're with friends. 703 00:44:43,774 --> 00:44:46,054 I'm going away for a bit and they're coming with me. 704 00:44:48,813 --> 00:44:50,813 Away where? 705 00:44:52,412 --> 00:44:54,412 I can't. 706 00:44:58,371 --> 00:45:00,830 I can't do this anymore, 707 00:45:00,930 --> 00:45:03,550 - just can't be here now. - I don't understand. 708 00:45:03,650 --> 00:45:06,129 How can you not understand? 709 00:45:07,089 --> 00:45:08,868 No... No, you can't. 710 00:45:08,968 --> 00:45:11,508 You need to talk to me. We need to talk about this. 711 00:45:11,608 --> 00:45:13,727 I've talked and I've talked and I've talked and I've... 712 00:45:15,287 --> 00:45:17,266 There's just nothing else to say. 713 00:45:17,366 --> 00:45:19,626 You're not taking those kids anywhere without my permission. 714 00:45:19,726 --> 00:45:21,745 Please don't fight me. 715 00:45:21,845 --> 00:45:23,965 Please don't. I don't want to fight you. 716 00:45:37,162 --> 00:45:39,141 So when are you coming back? 717 00:45:39,241 --> 00:45:43,240 You'll see the kids. I promise I will make sure that you see the kids. 718 00:45:47,399 --> 00:45:49,399 And I'm truly sorry. 719 00:46:14,193 --> 00:46:16,192 I've just spoken to the CPS. 720 00:46:17,792 --> 00:46:20,691 We can charge Rees, Cook, and the Vians for the murder 721 00:46:20,791 --> 00:46:24,170 of Daniel Morgan, and Fillery for perverting the course of justice. 722 00:46:24,270 --> 00:46:27,309 We're over the line. We're over the bloody line. 723 00:46:28,869 --> 00:46:31,488 - Congratulations, Dave. - Thank you. 724 00:46:31,588 --> 00:46:33,528 The most investigated murder in the history of 725 00:46:33,628 --> 00:46:35,590 the Metropolitan Police Service. 726 00:46:36,147 --> 00:46:38,190 We cracked Daniel Morgan. 727 00:46:39,543 --> 00:46:41,030 I'll go and tell the Morgans. 728 00:47:14,767 --> 00:47:17,773 Sub extracted from file & improved by Se7enOfNin9 for addic7ed.com