1 00:00:17,268 --> 00:00:18,978 Scottie, in the paper today, 2 00:00:19,062 --> 00:00:21,814 it says that Phil wants one more year back here 3 00:00:21,898 --> 00:00:24,275 and Michael wants $36 million. 4 00:00:24,359 --> 00:00:28,446 And it also quotes Jerry Krause as not ruling out a trade for you, 5 00:00:28,529 --> 00:00:31,824 which leaves you flapping in the breeze. Does that bother you? 6 00:00:31,908 --> 00:00:32,908 No. 7 00:00:34,035 --> 00:00:37,914 I would love the opportunity of finishing my career out in Chicago, 8 00:00:37,997 --> 00:00:41,876 but if it don't happen, then I'll just have to look elsewhere. 9 00:00:42,752 --> 00:00:45,338 I'm one of the best players to ever play the game. 10 00:00:47,090 --> 00:00:49,842 I understand what my value is to this game. 11 00:00:50,677 --> 00:00:52,971 You're underpaid as one of the top players. 12 00:00:53,054 --> 00:00:54,430 What do you think your value is... 13 00:00:54,514 --> 00:00:55,640 My day'll come. 14 00:00:56,599 --> 00:00:57,684 My day will come. 15 00:01:11,072 --> 00:01:12,282 Thank you. 16 00:01:12,949 --> 00:01:16,619 Thank you for all the wonderful moments that the fans here in this city 17 00:01:16,703 --> 00:01:20,665 have shown me and my teammates for ten long seasons. 18 00:01:24,335 --> 00:01:25,920 I've had a wonderful career here, 19 00:01:26,004 --> 00:01:29,507 and if I never have the opportunity to say this again: thank you. 20 00:01:34,721 --> 00:01:37,056 Scottie Pippen with a tearful thank you. 21 00:01:37,140 --> 00:01:39,434 We thought, for one unconscionable moment, 22 00:01:39,517 --> 00:01:41,728 we might be hearing a retirement statement there. 23 00:01:43,146 --> 00:01:48,276 What made me upset was I knew it was the end of the journey, 24 00:01:48,359 --> 00:01:52,363 and I never saw it ending like that. 25 00:01:53,114 --> 00:01:57,160 Jerry Krause made everything real murky when he said, 26 00:01:57,243 --> 00:01:59,287 "This is Phil's last year. 27 00:01:59,370 --> 00:02:03,541 We're dismantling this team after this season." 28 00:02:03,624 --> 00:02:06,461 We're basically relieved of our duties. 29 00:02:11,174 --> 00:02:12,675 A spectacular move! 30 00:02:12,759 --> 00:02:14,344 The game's over! 31 00:02:14,427 --> 00:02:16,763 Chicago Stadium is going wild! 32 00:02:18,723 --> 00:02:21,225 First of all, there's no backstabbing going on here. 33 00:02:21,309 --> 00:02:22,267 It's time for me to move on. 34 00:02:22,268 --> 00:02:24,668 This will be Phil's last year as coach of the Bulls. 35 00:02:27,273 --> 00:02:29,835 - Are the expectations too high? - Where do we go from here? 36 00:02:29,859 --> 00:02:32,362 The only question: how long can it last? 37 00:02:46,125 --> 00:02:47,418 I'm being squished. 38 00:02:47,502 --> 00:02:49,462 - Sorry. - Take it easy. 39 00:02:49,921 --> 00:02:53,049 Michael, what did you make of Scottie Pippen's speech? 40 00:02:53,132 --> 00:02:55,009 He was kind of caught up in emotions. 41 00:02:55,802 --> 00:02:57,387 Scottie has feelings. 42 00:02:57,470 --> 00:03:01,224 He certainly has dedication and love for the city of Chicago and, uh... 43 00:03:02,225 --> 00:03:07,230 you know, it's tough when you have so much appreciation for the fans 44 00:03:07,313 --> 00:03:09,565 who have supported you for so many years 45 00:03:09,649 --> 00:03:11,859 and sometimes, when you get out there and speak, 46 00:03:11,943 --> 00:03:14,529 it has to touch you deep down inside, um, 47 00:03:15,405 --> 00:03:17,115 and with all that's happened thus far, 48 00:03:17,198 --> 00:03:20,451 it certainly can be a very emotional situation for him. 49 00:03:21,786 --> 00:03:23,704 Have you talked with him at all... 50 00:03:23,788 --> 00:03:26,249 Are y'all gonna talk about the game or about Scottie? 51 00:03:26,332 --> 00:03:27,248 A little bit of both. 52 00:03:27,250 --> 00:03:29,290 Well, you talk to Scottie to answer Scottie's reply. 53 00:03:29,335 --> 00:03:31,271 - Okay, what about the game, then? - There you go. 54 00:03:59,157 --> 00:04:01,117 Scottie Pippen was the underrated, 55 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:05,204 underappreciated Robin to Michael's Batman. 56 00:04:05,288 --> 00:04:09,041 I would never be able to find a tandem, another support system, 57 00:04:09,125 --> 00:04:12,086 another partner in the game of basketball like Scottie Pippen. 58 00:04:12,170 --> 00:04:13,796 He was a pleasure to play with. 59 00:04:14,547 --> 00:04:17,175 What a show the Bulls are putting on here. 60 00:04:17,258 --> 00:04:21,387 Pippen right back to Jordan! Yes. Oh, my! 61 00:04:22,722 --> 00:04:23,973 Through trial and error, 62 00:04:24,056 --> 00:04:28,811 through that kind of blast furnace that Michael would put people through, 63 00:04:29,896 --> 00:04:30,896 Scottie got tough. 64 00:04:30,938 --> 00:04:33,024 Scottie coming hard on the drive, 65 00:04:33,107 --> 00:04:36,277 - takes it all the way to the rack... Oh! - Over Barkley! 66 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,780 And he was lethal, defensively. 67 00:04:39,864 --> 00:04:42,116 Sedale Threatt. Antonio hard... 68 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:44,494 - Oh, my, Pippen! - What a play! 69 00:04:44,577 --> 00:04:47,872 Sensational end-to-end defensive action! 70 00:04:49,957 --> 00:04:50,957 Oh, Pip! 71 00:04:52,084 --> 00:04:55,421 He helped me so much in the way that I approached the game, 72 00:04:55,505 --> 00:04:56,839 the way I played the game. 73 00:04:57,465 --> 00:05:00,152 Whenever they speak Michael Jordan, they should speak Scottie Pippen. 74 00:05:03,179 --> 00:05:06,474 When everybody says, well, I won all these championships. 75 00:05:07,225 --> 00:05:09,227 But I didn't win without Scottie Pippen. 76 00:05:10,603 --> 00:05:14,065 And, you know, that's why I consider him my best teammate of all time. 77 00:05:20,029 --> 00:05:22,865 I grew up in a town of about 3,500 people. 78 00:05:23,783 --> 00:05:25,952 Everybody pretty much knew each other. 79 00:05:27,161 --> 00:05:32,708 My mom and my dad were very strong people and they were about surviving, 80 00:05:32,792 --> 00:05:36,170 and obviously that's what they were about if they had 12 kids. 81 00:05:40,007 --> 00:05:42,969 We used to have a basket in my grandmother's yard. 82 00:05:43,052 --> 00:05:46,597 It was in the dirt, so it would be dusty all the time. 83 00:05:47,181 --> 00:05:50,351 It didn't matter. I had old shoes anyway. 84 00:05:50,434 --> 00:05:54,313 Everybody was close-knit, everybody shared everything, you know. 85 00:05:54,397 --> 00:05:57,275 It was just a good time. We didn't even know we were poor. 86 00:06:01,070 --> 00:06:02,780 I was about 11 or 12. 87 00:06:05,157 --> 00:06:10,580 My dad had just gotten home and as he was eating his dinner, 88 00:06:10,663 --> 00:06:11,664 he just, kinda... 89 00:06:13,332 --> 00:06:16,586 fell back and he suffered a stroke. 90 00:06:19,005 --> 00:06:23,843 I can still see it every time I think about it. 91 00:06:25,344 --> 00:06:29,724 He lost his speech and he was stuck in a wheelchair 92 00:06:29,807 --> 00:06:32,351 and bedridden for the rest of his life. 93 00:06:34,228 --> 00:06:35,813 Six years before that, 94 00:06:36,689 --> 00:06:40,651 my second-oldest brother was in junior high school. 95 00:06:41,944 --> 00:06:46,741 A kid fell on him in a PE class with a wrestling move. 96 00:06:47,617 --> 00:06:49,410 It paralyzed him, so... 97 00:06:50,286 --> 00:06:53,122 - So, you grew up with... - Two. 98 00:06:53,205 --> 00:06:56,375 Yeah. Yeah, with two people in my house in a wheelchair. 99 00:06:58,127 --> 00:07:02,632 Basketball gave me an opportunity just to get out of the house and play. 100 00:07:02,715 --> 00:07:05,635 And didn't need anyone to play with. 101 00:07:06,218 --> 00:07:09,555 Dr. J was my childhood hero. 102 00:07:10,056 --> 00:07:14,477 I always wanted to play like him and dunk the basketball like him. 103 00:07:15,770 --> 00:07:19,023 I felt like, that one day, I was gonna be in his shoes. 104 00:07:19,106 --> 00:07:21,484 Yeah, that's every kid's dream. 105 00:07:21,567 --> 00:07:25,237 Every kid's dream, wanna play in the NBA at one time or another. 106 00:07:27,573 --> 00:07:28,783 It's just a dream. 107 00:07:30,660 --> 00:07:33,162 He always knew he was going to make it to the NBA. 108 00:07:33,245 --> 00:07:35,414 - And you believed him? - Not really. 109 00:07:37,333 --> 00:07:43,881 Scottie arrived at UCA, and he started off as being the equipment manager, 110 00:07:43,964 --> 00:07:46,550 but he was practicing and doing all of those things 111 00:07:46,634 --> 00:07:48,260 that he should do with the team. 112 00:07:50,971 --> 00:07:55,893 A few guys academically fall off so some scholarships come available, 113 00:07:56,644 --> 00:07:59,021 and I go back, ask the coach. 114 00:07:59,980 --> 00:08:03,984 I was very persistent and he finally gave me a scholarship. 115 00:08:04,068 --> 00:08:08,030 He came in as a 6'1", 155-pound guard. 116 00:08:09,198 --> 00:08:11,492 I got to watch him play and I thought, 117 00:08:11,575 --> 00:08:14,286 "Wow, this guy's got a little something if he can fill out." 118 00:08:14,954 --> 00:08:16,539 He started lifting weights. 119 00:08:16,622 --> 00:08:19,041 He could handle the ball better, he could shoot better. 120 00:08:19,125 --> 00:08:20,251 He could jump higher. 121 00:08:20,334 --> 00:08:23,587 I was getting better at such a rapid pace. 122 00:08:23,671 --> 00:08:28,134 And in my freshman to my sophomore year, over the summer... 123 00:08:29,260 --> 00:08:31,220 I grew five inches. 124 00:08:32,263 --> 00:08:35,141 When I seen him the next time, he was 6'5". 125 00:08:35,683 --> 00:08:37,810 And then the next time I seen him, he was 6'7". 126 00:08:38,853 --> 00:08:40,896 Beautiful pass and he... Oh! 127 00:08:40,980 --> 00:08:43,190 To Pippen cutting right across the line... 128 00:08:43,774 --> 00:08:44,859 He exploded. 129 00:08:44,942 --> 00:08:47,820 Three-on-one break, Parish to Pippen to the... 130 00:08:49,113 --> 00:08:51,615 He kept his guard skills that he had even when he grew. 131 00:08:51,699 --> 00:08:54,326 Scottie Pippen underneath McClain... 132 00:08:54,410 --> 00:08:56,328 He could grab a rebound on one end, 133 00:08:56,412 --> 00:08:59,707 take it the length of the court, weave in and out of people and dunk it. 134 00:08:59,790 --> 00:09:01,417 Very few players can do that. 135 00:09:07,131 --> 00:09:10,843 I remember the coach saying, "Scottie, they out there, they looking for you now." 136 00:09:15,598 --> 00:09:17,725 I was a fanatic basketball fan 137 00:09:17,808 --> 00:09:20,978 and I went down and watched Pippen play. I knew he was gonna be really good. 138 00:09:21,061 --> 00:09:23,731 First time I met him, he could hardly string three words together, 139 00:09:23,814 --> 00:09:24,814 he was so shy. 140 00:09:24,815 --> 00:09:28,027 By the time he graduated from the University of Central Arkansas, 141 00:09:28,110 --> 00:09:30,404 which was an NAIA team, 142 00:09:30,488 --> 00:09:32,948 he was the best player in his division in America. 143 00:09:33,032 --> 00:09:34,450 I just really got excited. 144 00:09:34,533 --> 00:09:36,410 When I saw Scottie Pippen play the first time, 145 00:09:36,494 --> 00:09:39,246 I thought, "Oh, my Lord, he's gonna be a special player." 146 00:09:39,330 --> 00:09:42,958 The NBA scouts saw the versatility, they saw the athletic ability, 147 00:09:43,042 --> 00:09:44,251 they saw the humbleness. 148 00:09:44,919 --> 00:09:51,300 The Seattle SuperSonics select Scott Pippen of Central Arkansas. 149 00:09:52,009 --> 00:09:55,888 Scott Pippen from the University of Central Arkansas. 150 00:09:55,971 --> 00:09:58,557 He's 21 years old, and that's right, folks, 151 00:09:58,641 --> 00:10:01,268 you probably have never heard of Scottie Pippen. 152 00:10:01,352 --> 00:10:02,579 Scottie, one year ago, 153 00:10:02,603 --> 00:10:04,772 if someone said you'd be the fifth player in the draft, 154 00:10:04,855 --> 00:10:05,981 what would you have said? 155 00:10:06,065 --> 00:10:08,567 I would have told them, probably, that they was joking. 156 00:10:09,944 --> 00:10:12,279 I would have figured it's just been a big joke. 157 00:10:12,613 --> 00:10:15,783 Do you know that there's a deal involving Seattle and Chicago 158 00:10:15,866 --> 00:10:17,076 and you're going to be traded? 159 00:10:17,159 --> 00:10:18,577 No, I have not heard about it. 160 00:10:19,537 --> 00:10:24,124 - Apparently, you're wearing the wrong hat. - Yeah? 161 00:10:24,208 --> 00:10:27,670 We realized that we were gonna have to maneuver to get up in the draft 162 00:10:27,753 --> 00:10:30,756 to get a higher pick than we otherwise would have had to get him. 163 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,550 And Krause was able to pull off a trade. 164 00:10:34,260 --> 00:10:36,780 We were able to work a trade the night before the draft 165 00:10:36,804 --> 00:10:39,098 and technically, the Seattle club took him for us, 166 00:10:39,181 --> 00:10:41,058 and then we acquired him. 167 00:10:41,141 --> 00:10:44,311 You know, Chicago is a great franchise and probably every player 168 00:10:44,395 --> 00:10:47,731 that's sitting out in the audience wants to be a part of the Bulls. 169 00:10:47,815 --> 00:10:50,192 The Bulls brought in Scottie Pippen, 170 00:10:50,276 --> 00:10:53,445 touted to make an immediate impact in the NBA. 171 00:10:53,529 --> 00:10:54,529 Let's go! 172 00:10:55,114 --> 00:10:58,117 Scottie Pippen about to make his big-league debut. 173 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,453 Barkley nearly kicked it away, plays it outside. Stolen by Pippen! 174 00:11:01,537 --> 00:11:03,163 Scottie Pippen on the breakaway! 175 00:11:03,956 --> 00:11:05,749 Scottie Pippen made the steal 176 00:11:05,833 --> 00:11:08,085 and then jammed with both hands at the other end. 177 00:11:08,168 --> 00:11:09,728 Scottie talked a lot of trash. 178 00:11:10,754 --> 00:11:13,507 Scottie came in and said, "I'll be better than Michael Jordan..." 179 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:16,010 as a rookie. 180 00:11:16,093 --> 00:11:19,972 I was pretty confident in who I was as a player. 181 00:11:20,055 --> 00:11:23,642 But as a rookie, you get treated like a rookie and... 182 00:11:24,727 --> 00:11:28,647 Charles was a bully, so he beat me up for saying that. 183 00:11:28,731 --> 00:11:30,608 - He's a rookie here. - We had a deal... 184 00:11:32,026 --> 00:11:34,904 He get treatment like this until next year at this time. 185 00:11:34,987 --> 00:11:36,488 All right? All right? 186 00:11:36,572 --> 00:11:37,488 - Yeah. - Okay. 187 00:11:37,489 --> 00:11:39,700 You gotta slap him. 188 00:11:40,367 --> 00:11:43,037 I recognized instantly that, you know, 189 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,999 you're not the top guy on the basketball team anymore. 190 00:11:47,082 --> 00:11:49,919 Ball tipped away by Jordan... It's loose. 191 00:11:50,002 --> 00:11:51,879 Ahead to Jordan with the breakaway... 192 00:11:55,966 --> 00:12:00,137 Michael was such a superstar in the game of basketball, 193 00:12:00,220 --> 00:12:06,602 and he was bigger than any superstar that any sport had ever had, 194 00:12:06,685 --> 00:12:12,024 so it wasn't like he was an average guy, like, "Let's go have lunch," or whatever. 195 00:12:13,317 --> 00:12:14,360 It was different. 196 00:12:17,154 --> 00:12:22,284 Actually, my rookie year, he gave me a pair of golf clubs. 197 00:12:22,368 --> 00:12:25,412 That's a nice thing to do, to give a rookie a set of clubs. 198 00:12:26,121 --> 00:12:30,292 Yeah, he was trying to lure me in so he could take all my money. 199 00:12:32,086 --> 00:12:34,338 Everybody needs that number two, 200 00:12:34,421 --> 00:12:37,257 the person that does the dirty work, and Pippen was great at it. 201 00:12:37,341 --> 00:12:39,635 Here comes Michael, for a three again. 202 00:12:40,344 --> 00:12:43,472 - Scottie with the left hand! - Wow! 203 00:12:44,348 --> 00:12:46,058 But he was so low paid, 204 00:12:46,141 --> 00:12:50,145 he was not even the 100th highest-paid player in the NBA. 205 00:12:50,229 --> 00:12:53,315 Pippen is as underpaid as underpaid gets. 206 00:12:53,399 --> 00:12:57,444 Only the 122nd highest-paid player in the league. 207 00:12:57,528 --> 00:13:00,990 Scottie Pippen signed a deal in 1991. 208 00:13:01,073 --> 00:13:03,242 Do you recall the terms of that deal? 209 00:13:03,325 --> 00:13:06,787 I don't recall the terms but I do recall that it was a longer contract 210 00:13:06,870 --> 00:13:08,539 than I thought was smart for him. 211 00:13:10,207 --> 00:13:11,207 Pippen! 212 00:13:12,126 --> 00:13:13,419 I worship you, man! 213 00:13:14,670 --> 00:13:19,800 Scottie Pippen signed a deal in 1991 for 7 years for $18 million. 214 00:13:19,883 --> 00:13:25,055 And if he'd played it right, he could have made nine times that amount, ten times. 215 00:13:25,681 --> 00:13:28,392 I said to Scottie the same thing I'd said to Michael. 216 00:13:28,475 --> 00:13:30,275 "If I were you, I wouldn't sign this contract. 217 00:13:30,352 --> 00:13:31,937 You may be selling yourself too short. 218 00:13:32,021 --> 00:13:34,273 It's too long a contract you're locking yourself in for." 219 00:13:35,107 --> 00:13:39,403 I felt like I couldn't afford to gamble myself 220 00:13:39,486 --> 00:13:42,614 getting injured and not being able to provide. 221 00:13:42,698 --> 00:13:49,246 I needed to make sure that people in my corner were taken care of. 222 00:13:49,329 --> 00:13:54,334 He did take care of my dad and my mom, and he built them a house. 223 00:13:54,418 --> 00:13:56,628 He sent 'em money every month and everything. 224 00:13:56,712 --> 00:13:57,880 They were taken care of. 225 00:13:58,881 --> 00:14:01,508 I don't know nothing that I need or want. 226 00:14:02,301 --> 00:14:04,720 Some of the things I don't have to ask him for. 227 00:14:06,513 --> 00:14:08,557 So I feel like he love me. 228 00:14:09,683 --> 00:14:11,351 I know I love him. 229 00:14:15,189 --> 00:14:19,318 He signed a long-term deal and it was undervalued pretty quickly. 230 00:14:19,401 --> 00:14:21,987 The league took off, you know, 231 00:14:22,071 --> 00:14:24,823 revenues went way, way up, salaries went up. 232 00:14:26,867 --> 00:14:30,954 Jerry Reinsdorf was emphatic about it when guys signed a contract. 233 00:14:31,038 --> 00:14:32,581 I don't want to hear from you again. 234 00:14:32,664 --> 00:14:34,666 Don't come back in here, try to renegotiate. 235 00:14:36,043 --> 00:14:37,503 It was embarrassing 236 00:14:37,586 --> 00:14:40,380 because he was maybe the number-two player in the NBA. 237 00:14:41,090 --> 00:14:43,342 His value was immense. 238 00:14:44,134 --> 00:14:46,053 Just drop straight down, there you go. 239 00:14:46,887 --> 00:14:49,348 You know what, I'm finding it's okay on this one, 240 00:14:49,431 --> 00:14:52,017 but on my other, my patella doesn't... 241 00:14:52,101 --> 00:14:54,186 When we got to '97 and '98, 242 00:14:54,269 --> 00:14:56,855 that was the last year of Scottie's contract, 243 00:14:57,606 --> 00:15:01,693 I know he was very frustrated, because Scottie needed to get paid. 244 00:15:01,777 --> 00:15:03,028 He deserved to get paid. 245 00:15:03,112 --> 00:15:08,242 There was a lot of, uh, anger from Scottie. 246 00:15:08,325 --> 00:15:11,620 He'd been one of the best players in the game for many years. 247 00:15:11,703 --> 00:15:13,372 He had done so much for the Bulls. 248 00:15:13,455 --> 00:15:17,042 So his frustration bubbled over. 249 00:15:17,126 --> 00:15:19,419 The world champs making news this week. 250 00:15:19,503 --> 00:15:22,464 Scottie Pippen of the Bulls will be out for two to three months. 251 00:15:22,548 --> 00:15:25,592 Pippen underwent surgery Monday on a sore foot in New York. 252 00:15:25,676 --> 00:15:27,302 It's an injury that's been bothering him 253 00:15:27,386 --> 00:15:29,680 dating back to the Eastern Conference Finals. 254 00:15:29,763 --> 00:15:33,142 I had a ruptured tendon in my ankle 255 00:15:33,225 --> 00:15:36,562 and I decided to have surgery late 256 00:15:37,396 --> 00:15:40,107 because I was, like, "You know what? 257 00:15:40,190 --> 00:15:46,405 I'm not gonna fuck my summer up trying to rehab for a season, you know? 258 00:15:46,488 --> 00:15:49,783 They're not gonna be looking forward to having me. 259 00:15:49,867 --> 00:15:54,538 So, I'mma enjoy my summer, and I'll use the season to prepare." 260 00:15:54,621 --> 00:15:56,498 Scottie was wrong in that scenario. 261 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,252 He could have got his surgery done as soon as the season was over, 262 00:16:00,335 --> 00:16:01,837 and be ready for the season. 263 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,716 What Scottie was trying to do was trying to force management 264 00:16:05,799 --> 00:16:08,010 to change his contract. 265 00:16:09,219 --> 00:16:10,804 And Jerry wasn't gonna do that. 266 00:16:14,391 --> 00:16:18,770 So, now I gotta start the season knowing that Scottie wasn't gonna be around. 267 00:16:19,354 --> 00:16:21,857 But we have to find a way to win. 268 00:16:22,566 --> 00:16:26,069 How do you carry this team, now, November and December without Scottie? 269 00:16:26,153 --> 00:16:27,738 I think we have to do it collectively. 270 00:16:27,821 --> 00:16:29,941 I don't think one individual's gonna be able to do it. 271 00:16:29,990 --> 00:16:33,035 I think, uh, we as a team, that's what a team is all about, 272 00:16:33,118 --> 00:16:35,454 so we have to cover up for Scottie not being here. 273 00:16:35,537 --> 00:16:38,081 We know he's not here, but that don't mean we stop playing. 274 00:16:38,790 --> 00:16:41,293 Our Chicago Bulls without Scottie Pippen, 275 00:16:41,376 --> 00:16:43,086 and they apparently missed him tonight. 276 00:16:44,588 --> 00:16:48,675 The Atlanta Hawks beat the Bulls here in Atlanta. 277 00:16:48,759 --> 00:16:50,302 The final score, 80-78. 278 00:16:50,928 --> 00:16:54,890 This is going to be the worst setback for the Chicago Bulls. 279 00:16:54,973 --> 00:16:58,185 Cavaliers beat up the Chicago Bulls... 280 00:16:58,268 --> 00:16:59,770 Again, it is still early, 281 00:16:59,853 --> 00:17:01,772 but four and four for the Bulls out of the gate. 282 00:17:01,855 --> 00:17:04,066 Have not scored 100 points yet this season. 283 00:17:09,529 --> 00:17:11,949 We're not playing with much continuity and much rhythm 284 00:17:12,032 --> 00:17:14,701 and that's something that Scottie really provides for us. 285 00:17:14,785 --> 00:17:18,163 Scottie was so key for our team. He tied us together in many ways. 286 00:17:18,997 --> 00:17:23,418 And when you're a really good team, one loss feels like five. 287 00:17:23,502 --> 00:17:26,672 You're just... You're expected to win, you're supposed to win. 288 00:17:26,755 --> 00:17:30,300 And so, early in that season, we were losing games 289 00:17:30,384 --> 00:17:32,261 and it felt like trouble. 290 00:17:33,512 --> 00:17:36,765 As time expires, the Phoenix Suns 291 00:17:37,766 --> 00:17:42,396 have hung on for a dramatic victory over the Chicago Bulls. 292 00:17:47,693 --> 00:17:50,320 Scottie could've had surgery after the season ended. 293 00:17:50,404 --> 00:17:51,362 Yes. 294 00:17:51,363 --> 00:17:54,866 He purposely did this late to thumb his nose at management. 295 00:17:54,950 --> 00:17:56,785 Were you frustrated by how he handled this? 296 00:17:56,868 --> 00:17:58,578 No, I wasn't. 297 00:17:59,162 --> 00:18:02,457 You have to understand players' mentality and where they're coming from, 298 00:18:02,541 --> 00:18:04,793 and some guys can handle it, some guys can't. 299 00:18:05,335 --> 00:18:08,797 And Scottie probably needed to have this 300 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,341 to feel like he justified what his salary was. 301 00:18:11,425 --> 00:18:15,595 So I stayed solid, said, "We're gonna survive this, we'll be fine. 302 00:18:15,679 --> 00:18:16,763 We'll go forward." 303 00:18:16,847 --> 00:18:20,225 That's one of the things that Phil was really good at, 304 00:18:20,309 --> 00:18:23,979 is managing distractions and keeping us focused on what we had to do. 305 00:18:24,062 --> 00:18:25,856 Scottie's on a different timetable. 306 00:18:25,939 --> 00:18:27,649 Gonna be a bumpy road till he gets back, 307 00:18:27,733 --> 00:18:29,943 but we gotta manage without him for right now. 308 00:18:30,527 --> 00:18:34,031 When it came down to it, this burden always fell on Michael. 309 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,451 And he welcomed it, in a lot of respects. 310 00:18:37,534 --> 00:18:39,911 He liked that. He liked to take the responsibility. 311 00:18:39,995 --> 00:18:44,166 I'm gearing myself up physically, to deal with whatever I have to deal with. 312 00:18:44,249 --> 00:18:45,689 I'm looking forward to it, actually. 313 00:18:47,711 --> 00:18:50,797 Michael wanted to be the best player on the best team. 314 00:18:51,882 --> 00:18:55,427 Scottie's not here but we're still better than this. 315 00:18:55,510 --> 00:18:58,597 I was trying to get the guys to understand it from my standpoint. 316 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,227 Scottie was out. My voice had to be the loudest. 317 00:19:06,438 --> 00:19:09,232 I let my anger motivate the players by saying, 318 00:19:09,316 --> 00:19:11,735 "I want this! Do you guys want it?" 319 00:19:12,652 --> 00:19:14,404 He's raising his voice and calling guys out. 320 00:19:14,488 --> 00:19:16,448 "You gotta rebound better, box out. 321 00:19:16,531 --> 00:19:19,534 We're not playing well as a team. Defensively, we're lazy." 322 00:19:20,535 --> 00:19:23,455 You know what he does? You sit back and wait. What are you waiting for? 323 00:19:23,538 --> 00:19:24,858 Waiting on the double team. 324 00:19:24,915 --> 00:19:27,959 Why? You play aggressive, they'll come and help you? 325 00:19:28,752 --> 00:19:31,713 He's not worried about hurting feelings. If he did, you could leave. 326 00:19:31,797 --> 00:19:35,675 He would gladly tell you, "Get out. We don't need you here. Get out." 327 00:19:35,759 --> 00:19:38,178 Fuckin' Harp, what you waitin' all day for? 328 00:19:38,595 --> 00:19:40,972 - You think we can't cope? - We got time. 329 00:19:41,848 --> 00:19:43,683 Toni, it's okay. 330 00:19:43,767 --> 00:19:44,976 You know why? 331 00:19:45,060 --> 00:19:46,978 'Cause I got to scream at you all day. 332 00:19:49,022 --> 00:19:51,066 Every day that Scottie wasn't playing 333 00:19:51,149 --> 00:19:53,443 gave someone else the confidence that they could beat us. 334 00:19:53,527 --> 00:19:54,527 Hey! 335 00:19:55,278 --> 00:19:57,906 And if you're trying to maintain dominance over people, 336 00:19:57,989 --> 00:20:00,784 you don't want to give them a chance to gain confidence. 337 00:20:01,952 --> 00:20:05,622 So that drove my energy. Let's get this thing rolling. 338 00:20:06,164 --> 00:20:08,851 Let's go out and get our first win. I ain't gonna say this shit again. 339 00:20:08,875 --> 00:20:10,043 Let's do it. 340 00:20:10,127 --> 00:20:12,421 - What time is it? - Game time! 341 00:20:13,463 --> 00:20:17,175 This Bull team fired up tonight, really wants to get off 342 00:20:17,259 --> 00:20:22,013 this 0-4 start on the road. Embarrassing for such a good team. 343 00:20:22,097 --> 00:20:25,308 The Bulls in their road blacks. The Clippers are home white. 344 00:20:25,392 --> 00:20:29,271 They play the Clippers, who were a joke, 345 00:20:29,354 --> 00:20:31,022 the worst team in the league. 346 00:20:31,606 --> 00:20:35,485 And yet, the dregs of the league took the Bulls to two overtimes. 347 00:20:36,403 --> 00:20:38,989 Jordan kept waiting for somebody else to help him, 348 00:20:39,072 --> 00:20:40,657 and nobody else would help. 349 00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:45,912 For that game, he went somewhere and he found a switch. 350 00:20:46,830 --> 00:20:48,433 And the answer to the question, 351 00:20:48,457 --> 00:20:49,749 "Is Michael Jordan tired?" 352 00:20:50,250 --> 00:20:51,376 - No. - No. 353 00:20:52,586 --> 00:20:55,464 Jordan had to score 49 for them to win that game. 354 00:20:55,547 --> 00:20:57,859 No question, we saw greatness here tonight. 355 00:20:57,883 --> 00:21:00,886 The Bulls win for the first time on the road, 111-102. 356 00:21:00,969 --> 00:21:03,722 Jordan finishes with a mere 49 points. 357 00:21:04,598 --> 00:21:06,933 We've had opportunities to win, you know, 358 00:21:07,017 --> 00:21:09,478 in all the games on the road except for Cleveland. 359 00:21:09,561 --> 00:21:12,606 Hopefully, we can build upon this. We can finish games on the road. 360 00:21:12,689 --> 00:21:16,443 We've been in those games. And we really needed a win like this. 361 00:21:16,526 --> 00:21:20,530 Jordan was really worn out. Worn out physically, worn out emotionally. 362 00:21:21,615 --> 00:21:24,659 Good job, bro. Way to finish, man. 363 00:21:25,535 --> 00:21:26,786 Did I have a choice? 364 00:21:29,915 --> 00:21:32,584 - Anyway, Michael, hope you like the story. - Thank you. 365 00:21:36,087 --> 00:21:40,050 My innate personality is to win at all costs. 366 00:21:40,133 --> 00:21:42,260 If I have to do it myself, I'm gonna do it. 367 00:21:43,345 --> 00:21:46,056 Excuse us, please. Excuse us. Excuse us. 368 00:21:46,806 --> 00:21:49,017 Every time I step on that basketball court, 369 00:21:49,100 --> 00:21:51,228 my focus is to win the game. 370 00:21:52,103 --> 00:21:53,355 Excuse us, please. 371 00:21:54,189 --> 00:21:55,232 Step back. 372 00:21:56,316 --> 00:21:58,443 It drives me insane when I can't. 373 00:22:04,074 --> 00:22:05,742 As you get older, you look back 374 00:22:05,825 --> 00:22:08,453 and you understand how you became the person you are. 375 00:22:09,412 --> 00:22:11,498 I don't think I would be here without 376 00:22:11,581 --> 00:22:13,917 the lessons that I learned at a very young age. 377 00:22:14,626 --> 00:22:18,171 That competitiveness within me started when I was a kid. 378 00:22:39,109 --> 00:22:40,819 My parents provided us 379 00:22:40,902 --> 00:22:44,155 with all the opportunities to succeed in life. 380 00:22:44,990 --> 00:22:48,827 My father worked at General Electric. My mother worked at the banks. 381 00:22:49,619 --> 00:22:52,914 As a black person growing up in Wilmington, 382 00:22:52,998 --> 00:22:56,501 we were trying to make our... our own footsteps. 383 00:22:56,585 --> 00:23:00,922 As a family, we were naturally tough. My father was tough, my mom was tough, 384 00:23:01,006 --> 00:23:04,134 and the environment they brought us in was a tough environment. 385 00:23:05,051 --> 00:23:07,178 You get knocked down, you gotta get up. 386 00:23:07,262 --> 00:23:10,223 And you always give it your best and you always try to win. 387 00:23:10,849 --> 00:23:12,475 We hated to lose. 388 00:23:13,059 --> 00:23:16,855 Mr. Jordan and myself always tried to share with them, 389 00:23:16,938 --> 00:23:19,190 "Don't wait for somebody to give you something. 390 00:23:19,274 --> 00:23:22,527 You're strong, you're intelligent, go out and earn it and work for it." 391 00:23:23,111 --> 00:23:26,823 We had five kids and both the wife and I, both worked and, uh... 392 00:23:26,906 --> 00:23:29,951 we would worry, at times, about the kids being home 393 00:23:30,035 --> 00:23:33,413 so we thought something we could do was get them involved in sports. 394 00:23:33,496 --> 00:23:35,707 Drop them off at the Little League field or the gym 395 00:23:35,790 --> 00:23:37,542 and keep 'em involved in the community. 396 00:23:39,836 --> 00:23:41,880 My parents were trying to keep me busy. 397 00:23:42,881 --> 00:23:46,718 They always wanted all of us to play organized sports 398 00:23:46,801 --> 00:23:49,346 so that we learn more about life. 399 00:23:50,138 --> 00:23:53,391 At the time, you had racism all over North Carolina, 400 00:23:53,475 --> 00:23:55,435 all over, you know, the United States. 401 00:23:56,019 --> 00:23:57,687 And there was a lot of it around there. 402 00:23:57,771 --> 00:24:02,359 So, as a kid, it was like, "Okay, this is where I don't want to be. 403 00:24:02,442 --> 00:24:04,444 I want to excel outside of this." 404 00:24:04,527 --> 00:24:08,281 So my motivation was to be something outside of Wilmington. 405 00:24:08,365 --> 00:24:11,701 For me, it became athletics. 406 00:24:13,286 --> 00:24:15,789 We used to compete an awful lot in the backyard. 407 00:24:15,872 --> 00:24:21,086 My brothers hated losing but not on the same level like me, 408 00:24:21,169 --> 00:24:24,255 because if you beat me back then, we had to fight. 409 00:24:24,339 --> 00:24:26,049 And that's just the way I was. 410 00:24:26,633 --> 00:24:28,843 They were so competitive between the two of 'em. 411 00:24:29,552 --> 00:24:32,347 Matter of fact, at that time, it might be said 412 00:24:32,430 --> 00:24:34,557 that Larry was the best basketball player. 413 00:24:35,141 --> 00:24:37,352 My father pushed, he pushed everybody. 414 00:24:37,435 --> 00:24:41,272 And he had the tendency, if he felt you weren't doing the best you could, 415 00:24:41,898 --> 00:24:44,192 he would find a way to push you harder. 416 00:24:44,609 --> 00:24:45,985 And that really drove Michael, 417 00:24:46,069 --> 00:24:47,946 because Larry was pretty good at quite a bit. 418 00:24:48,738 --> 00:24:51,199 I don't think, from a competitive standpoint, 419 00:24:51,282 --> 00:24:55,161 I would be here without the confrontations with my brother. 420 00:24:55,995 --> 00:24:58,748 When you come to blows with someone you absolutely love... 421 00:24:59,666 --> 00:25:01,710 that's igniting every fire within you. 422 00:25:03,294 --> 00:25:06,589 And I always felt like I was fighting Larry for my father's attention. 423 00:25:07,340 --> 00:25:09,259 I'm a do-it-yourselfer around the house. 424 00:25:09,342 --> 00:25:10,927 So, I could take Larry out 425 00:25:11,010 --> 00:25:13,680 and he was fascinated by fixing things with his hands. 426 00:25:13,763 --> 00:25:15,014 Took a lot of pride in it. 427 00:25:15,098 --> 00:25:17,809 Michael would be out, you'd say, "Give me a Phillips screwdriver." 428 00:25:17,892 --> 00:25:19,436 He might give you a pair of pliers. 429 00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:21,956 And I guess I was a little short patient with him and I'd say, 430 00:25:21,980 --> 00:25:23,732 "Get back in the house with your mom, boy. 431 00:25:23,815 --> 00:25:26,443 You're never going to be anything. Just go back with your mom." 432 00:25:26,943 --> 00:25:29,195 When you're going through it, it's traumatic, 433 00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:33,074 because I want that, you know, I want that approval. 434 00:25:33,158 --> 00:25:34,576 I want that type of confidence. 435 00:25:34,659 --> 00:25:37,287 So my determination got even greater 436 00:25:37,370 --> 00:25:41,249 to be as good, if not better, than my brother. 437 00:25:50,550 --> 00:25:52,010 I met him in tryouts, 438 00:25:52,802 --> 00:25:55,889 but there was nothing particularly outstanding in tryouts. 439 00:25:55,972 --> 00:25:57,974 He did not make the varsity team 440 00:25:58,057 --> 00:25:59,893 as a sophomore. 441 00:26:00,643 --> 00:26:03,021 When I got home and I told my mother I was cut, 442 00:26:03,104 --> 00:26:05,940 I was demoralized, I didn't want to play any more sports. 443 00:26:06,024 --> 00:26:08,151 I felt like the coach didn't like me. 444 00:26:08,860 --> 00:26:12,363 He was devastated. He came home upset, crying. 445 00:26:12,447 --> 00:26:16,451 And we both cried, 'cause I knew he wanted to really compete with the other guys. 446 00:26:17,118 --> 00:26:22,123 My words to him was, "If you really want it, you work hard over the summer." 447 00:26:23,041 --> 00:26:24,417 And he did that summer. 448 00:26:24,501 --> 00:26:29,506 He focused, he would practice all day. That basketball never left his hand. 449 00:26:29,589 --> 00:26:31,466 If you wanna bring out the best in Michael, 450 00:26:31,549 --> 00:26:32,801 tell him he can't do something. 451 00:26:32,884 --> 00:26:35,595 Or he can't do it as good as somebody else and, uh, 452 00:26:35,678 --> 00:26:39,474 I think that he takes it as a personal challenge to go out and do it, 453 00:26:39,557 --> 00:26:40,767 just to prove you wrong. 454 00:26:41,893 --> 00:26:46,272 Mike's improvement from his sophomore year to his junior year was tremendous. 455 00:26:46,356 --> 00:26:48,733 A lot of it had to do with his size. 456 00:26:48,817 --> 00:26:53,029 He was about 5'10" or 5'11". He came back about 6'3" that fall. 457 00:26:53,696 --> 00:26:55,966 He had great guard skills. He always played guard. 458 00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:57,534 He always handled the ball. 459 00:26:57,617 --> 00:26:59,702 And now becoming, you know, 6'3 ", 6'4", 460 00:27:00,537 --> 00:27:02,997 that just made him into a much better ball player. 461 00:27:04,541 --> 00:27:06,960 We knew that he was special. 462 00:27:08,545 --> 00:27:11,756 The athletic director of Hanover County Schools called us and said, 463 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,509 "I've got a guy down here I think may have a chance." 464 00:27:14,592 --> 00:27:16,427 And that was Mike Jordan. 465 00:27:17,387 --> 00:27:20,348 And so we invited him to our basketball camp. 466 00:27:21,516 --> 00:27:25,353 When he got here, we knew of him, we'd heard he's pretty good. 467 00:27:26,020 --> 00:27:29,020 Five days later, when he left, we thought he was the best player in America. 468 00:27:56,342 --> 00:27:58,942 It was the third game of the season in the second season. 469 00:27:59,762 --> 00:28:02,849 We're playing Golden State. I go up for a lob... 470 00:28:02,932 --> 00:28:04,932 Bulls on the run to Michael Jordan... 471 00:28:04,976 --> 00:28:08,021 and when I landed, I landed flat-footed. 472 00:28:08,104 --> 00:28:10,648 Looks like Michael came out limping a little bit. 473 00:28:10,732 --> 00:28:14,193 He's a little ginger on that ankle. He had hurt it a little earlier. 474 00:28:15,069 --> 00:28:19,490 When they did the CAT scan, it was a clear break, and... 475 00:28:20,241 --> 00:28:21,242 I was done. 476 00:28:22,368 --> 00:28:24,287 Last year's Rookie of the Year Michael Jordan 477 00:28:24,370 --> 00:28:25,788 out with a broken left foot. 478 00:28:28,833 --> 00:28:31,085 I was devastated because I never got hurt. 479 00:28:31,169 --> 00:28:34,714 I'm in a cast. I couldn't do anything. I was anxious. 480 00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:37,967 I'm pretty sure I was irritable to a lot of people. 481 00:28:38,885 --> 00:28:42,096 He broke this bone, right in the middle. 482 00:28:42,764 --> 00:28:44,724 It's an area of the body 483 00:28:44,807 --> 00:28:49,187 that may not heal very rapidly because of the poor blood supply. 484 00:28:50,688 --> 00:28:54,484 The healing time can vary from six weeks, 12 weeks or even longer. 485 00:28:54,567 --> 00:28:57,153 And occasionally, that fracture does not heal. 486 00:28:57,236 --> 00:29:00,657 Michael had never missed a game, through high school, 487 00:29:00,740 --> 00:29:04,035 college and the NBA, so far. 488 00:29:04,577 --> 00:29:06,371 All of a sudden, he misses 64. 489 00:29:06,996 --> 00:29:10,208 I'm doing nothing, watching games, sitting on the bench. 490 00:29:10,708 --> 00:29:12,961 My mother and father came up and spent a lot of time. 491 00:29:14,087 --> 00:29:16,506 You could not keep him on that bench. 492 00:29:16,589 --> 00:29:20,259 Mr. Jordan and myself is saying, "Michael, you are not ready." 493 00:29:20,677 --> 00:29:24,347 He said, "I don't think you can tell me. I know when my body's ready." 494 00:29:24,430 --> 00:29:26,015 "The doctor knows when you're ready." 495 00:29:27,266 --> 00:29:29,268 I was itching to do something. 496 00:29:31,354 --> 00:29:32,354 So... 497 00:29:32,981 --> 00:29:35,191 I talked the Bulls into letting me go back to college. 498 00:29:36,943 --> 00:29:39,487 I just started going to the gym, shooting. 499 00:29:40,154 --> 00:29:41,781 Then I started playing one-on-one, 500 00:29:41,864 --> 00:29:45,034 and then I started playing two-on-two, then I started playing three-on-three. 501 00:29:45,118 --> 00:29:48,579 Next, I was playing five-on-five, and the Bulls never knew I was doing it. 502 00:29:49,664 --> 00:29:52,792 And when I got back with the Bulls... 503 00:29:55,003 --> 00:30:01,217 my calf muscles in my injured calf were stronger than my uninjured calf. 504 00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:03,720 So the first thing they said, "What the hell you been doing? 505 00:30:03,803 --> 00:30:04,846 Blah blah blah." 506 00:30:04,929 --> 00:30:07,849 No, we didn't really know he was playing until he came back and told us. 507 00:30:07,932 --> 00:30:09,225 When Michael came back, he said, 508 00:30:09,308 --> 00:30:11,788 "I've been playing an hour and a half a day for the last week." 509 00:30:11,853 --> 00:30:13,396 And after my heart dropped out, 510 00:30:13,479 --> 00:30:15,523 I just dropped down and, oh, my God. 511 00:30:15,606 --> 00:30:19,610 I gradually worked my way up to a point where I'm playing five-on-five in a game. 512 00:30:20,236 --> 00:30:24,490 And I got the confidence that the foot is completely healed and I can play on it. 513 00:30:24,574 --> 00:30:29,829 Michael asked, "If I play, what percentage is there that I'm gonna get hurt again?" 514 00:30:29,912 --> 00:30:31,789 Doctor said, "10%." 515 00:30:32,373 --> 00:30:35,084 And I just lost it. I said, "Look, it's 10% chance, 516 00:30:35,168 --> 00:30:37,420 but it's 90% chance that I won't." 517 00:30:38,004 --> 00:30:39,964 And then I chimed in to the doctors, 518 00:30:40,048 --> 00:30:42,383 "What happens if the 10% kicks in?" 519 00:30:42,467 --> 00:30:44,802 And they said, "Then his career would be over." 520 00:30:44,886 --> 00:30:47,221 Well, everybody's just thinking about the negative. 521 00:30:47,305 --> 00:30:51,142 While I think the glass is half full, everybody's thinking it's half empty. 522 00:30:51,225 --> 00:30:55,897 So, I said to Michael, "You're not understanding the risk-reward ratio. 523 00:30:55,980 --> 00:31:00,526 If you had a terrible headache and I gave you a bottle of pills, 524 00:31:00,610 --> 00:31:04,238 and nine of the pills would cure you and one of the pills would kill you, 525 00:31:05,323 --> 00:31:06,491 would you take a pill?" 526 00:31:07,241 --> 00:31:10,453 I look at him and I said, "Depends on how fucking bad the headache is." 527 00:31:10,912 --> 00:31:12,997 From Jerry Reinsdorf's perspective, 528 00:31:13,998 --> 00:31:16,667 a pure business decision, you don't play the guy. 529 00:31:17,293 --> 00:31:20,088 Here's your franchise. Literally, your franchise. 530 00:31:20,171 --> 00:31:23,174 In my mind, he should not risk coming back 531 00:31:24,050 --> 00:31:26,135 because we weren't winning a championship anyway. 532 00:31:26,219 --> 00:31:29,263 Why even take a 10% risk that your career is going to be over? 533 00:31:29,347 --> 00:31:30,556 He didn't see it that way. 534 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,727 I'm starting to think, "Well, maybe it's not me playing, 535 00:31:34,811 --> 00:31:36,729 as opposed to us trying to lose games 536 00:31:36,813 --> 00:31:38,648 so we can move into the lottery." 537 00:31:38,731 --> 00:31:40,584 Is there something to this business 538 00:31:40,608 --> 00:31:42,628 of wanting a better position? Getting in the lottery? 539 00:31:42,652 --> 00:31:45,029 I hope not. That just shows a losing attitude 540 00:31:45,113 --> 00:31:48,324 and not just on the team, but in the front office also. 541 00:31:48,407 --> 00:31:50,409 We should always go out and try to win. 542 00:31:50,493 --> 00:31:52,870 Exasperated Bulls owner Jerry Reinsdorf 543 00:31:52,954 --> 00:31:54,747 finally agreed to a compromise 544 00:31:54,831 --> 00:31:56,332 which would allow his star to play 545 00:31:56,415 --> 00:31:58,793 a specified number of minutes in each game. 546 00:31:58,876 --> 00:32:01,629 We reached a compromise and we allowed him to come back 547 00:32:01,712 --> 00:32:03,464 and play seven minutes each half. 548 00:32:03,548 --> 00:32:05,174 So they let me go back and play, 549 00:32:05,258 --> 00:32:07,385 and then they put a time restriction on me. 550 00:32:09,053 --> 00:32:11,453 Jordan with ten points in limited playing time. 551 00:32:11,514 --> 00:32:15,476 They had him on seven minute per half time limit, with a stopwatch. 552 00:32:16,394 --> 00:32:18,062 Short. 553 00:32:19,438 --> 00:32:21,524 That counts for Michael! 554 00:32:22,733 --> 00:32:25,444 He could be almost in mid-shot, it's like... tweet. 555 00:32:27,864 --> 00:32:28,865 "Jordan, you're out." 556 00:32:28,948 --> 00:32:30,992 Michael Jordan sat down. 557 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,788 He doesn't seem happy. He's fired up and ready to go. 558 00:32:35,872 --> 00:32:37,623 They're gonna have to hold him back. 559 00:32:38,791 --> 00:32:41,351 What was the rationale for the seven minutes per half? 560 00:32:41,377 --> 00:32:45,423 Well, we felt that the doctors had said a certain amount of time. 561 00:32:45,506 --> 00:32:48,759 We felt we were gonna try to make the odds right 562 00:32:48,843 --> 00:32:51,095 in a situation where we would reduce the odds. 563 00:32:51,971 --> 00:32:54,098 At the time, the coach was Stan Albeck. 564 00:32:55,141 --> 00:32:57,310 So, I said, "Stan, fuck these guys, man. 565 00:32:58,102 --> 00:33:01,105 Give me the most important seven minutes that you can think about." 566 00:33:02,315 --> 00:33:05,985 So, now we start winning and we start getting into the playoff picture. 567 00:33:07,612 --> 00:33:09,197 We get to a pivotal game. 568 00:33:09,906 --> 00:33:12,491 We go and play Indiana in Indiana. 569 00:33:13,284 --> 00:33:16,370 We need this game because it puts us in a position to make the playoffs. 570 00:33:17,246 --> 00:33:21,667 Stan got berated, saying, "If you put him in one second 571 00:33:21,751 --> 00:33:24,337 more than 14 minutes, you're fired on the spot." 572 00:33:24,420 --> 00:33:26,380 Jordan around an Oakley screen, 573 00:33:26,464 --> 00:33:28,090 lean-in jumper, left baseline, is in... 574 00:33:29,508 --> 00:33:32,053 For 14 minutes, I just go absolutely ballistic. 575 00:33:32,637 --> 00:33:34,847 And we were in a position to win. 576 00:33:34,931 --> 00:33:37,141 On the drive, in from the left, 577 00:33:37,225 --> 00:33:39,602 Eighteen-footer good. Bulls have the lead... 578 00:33:39,685 --> 00:33:42,855 Outside, Richardson, right side, Fleming, 20-footer, good! 579 00:33:45,191 --> 00:33:48,819 Thirty-one seconds left. The Bulls take time. Down one... 580 00:33:48,903 --> 00:33:51,322 All of a sudden, my time is up. 581 00:33:51,405 --> 00:33:53,908 I don't know if Jerry came down from the stands to say, 582 00:33:53,991 --> 00:33:56,786 "Get him out of the game." There's, like, 30 seconds left. 583 00:33:56,869 --> 00:33:58,663 Thirty-one seconds to go. 584 00:33:59,747 --> 00:34:01,249 Michael's time is up. 585 00:34:01,791 --> 00:34:03,501 I'm just like... I'm angry. 586 00:34:03,584 --> 00:34:06,629 What a sensational performance... 587 00:34:06,712 --> 00:34:08,589 Michael saw it for what it was. 588 00:34:09,715 --> 00:34:12,176 You play the game to win. Period. 589 00:34:13,010 --> 00:34:15,096 "I don't want to hear about your draft pick. 590 00:34:15,179 --> 00:34:17,348 I don't want to hear about missing the playoffs 591 00:34:17,431 --> 00:34:18,683 and how good that would be. 592 00:34:19,225 --> 00:34:20,851 That's not how you play the game." 593 00:34:21,435 --> 00:34:23,813 I'm begging Stan, "Put me in the game. 594 00:34:23,896 --> 00:34:27,692 Come on, there's only 14 fuckin' seconds, Stan... 13 seconds. 595 00:34:27,775 --> 00:34:29,360 Put me in for 13 seconds." 596 00:34:29,443 --> 00:34:31,779 He said, "MJ, I can't put you in. I'll lose my job." 597 00:34:32,363 --> 00:34:34,615 It fueled the whole theory that, 598 00:34:34,699 --> 00:34:36,701 here, we're trying to not make the playoffs 599 00:34:36,784 --> 00:34:38,160 so we can get a better draft pick. 600 00:34:38,619 --> 00:34:40,788 But I vowed to make the playoffs every year, 601 00:34:40,871 --> 00:34:43,082 and this is a chance for us to make the playoffs. 602 00:34:45,793 --> 00:34:48,504 It's our ball, there's 13 seconds left. 603 00:34:51,257 --> 00:34:54,343 Lo and behold, John Paxson hits a game-winning shot. 604 00:34:54,885 --> 00:34:57,263 Pax comes down with a jumping one-hander... 605 00:34:57,346 --> 00:34:59,932 Fortunately, I get lucky and throw some shot in 606 00:35:00,016 --> 00:35:01,600 and we end up winning the game. 607 00:35:01,684 --> 00:35:05,688 The Bulls win it! The Bulls hang on and win by one! 608 00:35:05,771 --> 00:35:08,941 What a big victory by the Bulls! 609 00:35:09,692 --> 00:35:11,292 We went into the locker room... 610 00:35:12,236 --> 00:35:14,155 Stan locked that door. 611 00:35:14,238 --> 00:35:17,408 And Jerry Krause came, wanting to get in at the end of the game 612 00:35:17,491 --> 00:35:19,011 and Stan wouldn't let him in. 613 00:35:19,035 --> 00:35:20,036 You know, it was... 614 00:35:20,119 --> 00:35:21,162 It was... 615 00:35:22,413 --> 00:35:24,915 It wasn't a good... It wasn't a good situation. 616 00:35:26,375 --> 00:35:29,295 The mistrust Michael had with management, 617 00:35:29,378 --> 00:35:31,130 specifically with Jerry Krause, 618 00:35:31,672 --> 00:35:36,886 was he believed that they violated the most fundamental aspect of sport, 619 00:35:36,969 --> 00:35:39,680 of, I would argue, the most fundamental aspect 620 00:35:39,764 --> 00:35:41,682 of the way Michael conducted his life. 621 00:35:41,766 --> 00:35:45,603 You do it at the highest level and you do it to win, all the time. 622 00:35:46,979 --> 00:35:48,606 From that moment on, 623 00:35:48,689 --> 00:35:53,986 Michael's relationship with the ownership and management was deeply soured. 624 00:35:54,987 --> 00:35:56,155 That never went away. 625 00:35:57,782 --> 00:36:01,494 No one could limit the power and the glory of Michael Jordan. 626 00:36:01,577 --> 00:36:04,789 The Bulls made a late-season rush into a playoff berth, 627 00:36:04,872 --> 00:36:06,874 which, ironically, cost them a chance 628 00:36:06,957 --> 00:36:09,710 at one of the first seven choices in next year's draft. 629 00:36:09,794 --> 00:36:11,434 We end up making the playoffs having a... 630 00:36:11,462 --> 00:36:13,940 I believe we won only 30 games in the regular season that year. 631 00:36:13,964 --> 00:36:15,049 We end up the eighth seed. 632 00:36:15,132 --> 00:36:20,513 Jordan essentially wills his team, with a losing record, into the playoffs. 633 00:36:20,596 --> 00:36:22,223 And what is their reward? 634 00:36:22,306 --> 00:36:25,226 Well, they get to play the almighty Boston Celtics 635 00:36:25,851 --> 00:36:28,229 with four guys who'd make the Hall of Fame. 636 00:36:29,605 --> 00:36:34,026 We had Parish, McHale and Walton. 637 00:36:35,027 --> 00:36:39,240 All of 'em were about seven foot tall, that could score, run, defend. 638 00:36:39,323 --> 00:36:42,952 We had Danny Ainge and Dennis Johnson, our guards, and I was a small forward. 639 00:36:43,035 --> 00:36:46,872 So, we had a big team, and, uh, we were deep, we were big, 640 00:36:46,956 --> 00:36:50,543 and of all the teams I've been on, there's no question, that was the best team. 641 00:36:50,626 --> 00:36:52,878 That setting, against that team... 642 00:36:53,462 --> 00:36:56,006 That's what you play for, you get to be in those situations. 643 00:36:56,090 --> 00:36:58,235 The Celtics have won 31 in a row at home. 644 00:36:58,259 --> 00:37:02,263 They beat Chicago six times this year in the regular season. 645 00:37:02,346 --> 00:37:05,558 Michael had this supreme confidence about him. 646 00:37:05,641 --> 00:37:07,059 He loved the big stage. 647 00:37:07,143 --> 00:37:10,354 This is the opportunity to play against Larry Bird and the Celtics. 648 00:37:10,980 --> 00:37:12,273 Man, this is showtime. 649 00:37:12,356 --> 00:37:14,775 Well, Michael was coming off a pretty serious injury 650 00:37:14,859 --> 00:37:16,318 and we didn't know what to expect. 651 00:37:16,402 --> 00:37:19,363 Michael Jordan is back and there are no limits to his playing time. 652 00:37:19,447 --> 00:37:21,407 He's really ready to cut loose. 653 00:37:21,490 --> 00:37:23,701 We're ready to go at the Boston Garden. 654 00:37:23,784 --> 00:37:26,871 They took all the limitations off and it was like unleashing 655 00:37:27,580 --> 00:37:28,664 a wild dog. 656 00:37:29,248 --> 00:37:31,542 Jordan hangs in the air, puts it down. 657 00:37:32,418 --> 00:37:34,378 Jordan, shot it from the baseline. 658 00:37:35,004 --> 00:37:37,631 Jordan changed it in midair. Got it, nonetheless. 659 00:37:37,715 --> 00:37:41,510 Our whole thing was just, "Do what we can do to hold Michael down." 660 00:37:42,011 --> 00:37:43,637 But you don't hold the great ones down. 661 00:37:43,721 --> 00:37:47,391 Michael Jordan wheels, fades, off-balance... 662 00:37:47,475 --> 00:37:49,185 Absolutely amazing! 663 00:37:49,977 --> 00:37:50,978 Jordan beats Dennis. 664 00:37:52,229 --> 00:37:55,191 Carlisle has the unenviable task of playing Jordan. 665 00:37:56,192 --> 00:37:57,693 Isn't that something? 666 00:37:58,611 --> 00:38:01,572 I mean, Carlisle just wants his mommy. 667 00:38:03,324 --> 00:38:06,202 Jordan with great anticipation. He's off to the races. 668 00:38:06,285 --> 00:38:07,536 Watch this! Whoo-hoo! 669 00:38:08,746 --> 00:38:11,457 We had a lot of guys in our league that could score a lot of points. 670 00:38:11,540 --> 00:38:12,666 He took it to another level. 671 00:38:12,750 --> 00:38:16,086 We stuck with the game plan, and we end up winning the ball game. 672 00:38:16,170 --> 00:38:19,089 McHale, Bird, Parish... And a foul... 673 00:38:20,174 --> 00:38:21,383 There's the Celtics. 674 00:38:25,429 --> 00:38:26,972 Who's your player of the game, John? 675 00:38:27,056 --> 00:38:28,891 Hard to ignore Jordan tonight. 676 00:38:28,974 --> 00:38:30,559 We chose him as our player of the game. 677 00:38:30,643 --> 00:38:32,853 Forty-nine points, four rebounds. 678 00:38:32,937 --> 00:38:35,523 A spectacular individual effort by this guy. 679 00:38:35,606 --> 00:38:38,609 Tough job for the Chicago team now and for Stan Albeck, 680 00:38:38,692 --> 00:38:40,236 trying to get 'em ready for game two. 681 00:38:40,319 --> 00:38:41,779 They played so hard here tonight. 682 00:38:41,862 --> 00:38:45,115 I remember game two. I'd played golf with Michael the day before. 683 00:38:48,786 --> 00:38:51,455 It was Michael, Danny, Mike Carey and myself. 684 00:38:51,539 --> 00:38:54,458 And Michael and Danny are giving it to each other back and forth. 685 00:38:55,584 --> 00:38:58,462 Before game two, you played golf with Danny Ainge. 686 00:38:58,963 --> 00:39:00,005 Mmm-hmm. 687 00:39:02,758 --> 00:39:03,759 Get through. 688 00:39:04,426 --> 00:39:06,262 I cannot hit it today. 689 00:39:07,096 --> 00:39:11,100 I took a few bucks off of Michael that day and we're talking trash to each other. 690 00:39:11,183 --> 00:39:13,018 That might have been a mistake. 691 00:39:15,437 --> 00:39:16,438 Get it out. 692 00:39:19,149 --> 00:39:20,818 Pissing me off, man. 693 00:39:20,901 --> 00:39:24,530 We get done, we get in the car, we drop Danny off first. 694 00:39:25,114 --> 00:39:26,740 And, uh, Michael says, 695 00:39:26,824 --> 00:39:29,410 "Tell your boy DJ I got something for him tomorrow." 696 00:39:32,413 --> 00:39:34,248 The first game, the guy scores 49... 697 00:39:35,499 --> 00:39:37,459 but I don't think anyone expected, 698 00:39:37,543 --> 00:39:39,521 going into the next game, what was going to happen. 699 00:39:55,436 --> 00:39:57,521 He was scoring at will. Dunks, bankers. 700 00:39:57,605 --> 00:39:59,398 He'd get in the middle and shoot over guys. 701 00:40:05,779 --> 00:40:08,490 I played practically every minute in the second game. 702 00:40:08,574 --> 00:40:09,574 I just never stopped. 703 00:40:09,575 --> 00:40:11,785 On the switch. Bird guards Jordan. 704 00:40:11,869 --> 00:40:13,245 Jordan hits the jumper anyway. 705 00:40:13,329 --> 00:40:16,081 Stan Albeck kept putting me in isolated situations 706 00:40:16,165 --> 00:40:19,001 and I just took advantage of my youth and my energy. 707 00:40:19,084 --> 00:40:21,462 Jordan uses his quickness and it works. 708 00:40:21,545 --> 00:40:24,548 Jordan with 31. Bullseye. 709 00:40:25,007 --> 00:40:30,387 Jordan against Ainge, spins into the lane, scoops the shot up and draws the foul. 710 00:40:31,263 --> 00:40:34,016 We all took our cracks at him that day. It wasn't one guy. 711 00:40:34,099 --> 00:40:36,477 DJ was our best defensive player, 712 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,230 and he picked up four fouls early in the third quarter. 713 00:40:40,314 --> 00:40:43,067 Four fouls on Johnson. Welcome to the club. 714 00:40:43,150 --> 00:40:46,612 I was on him for a while, Danny was on him, DJ was on him a lot. 715 00:40:47,196 --> 00:40:49,406 I remember laughing in the middle of the game 716 00:40:49,490 --> 00:40:52,660 because Walton was cursing me out 717 00:40:52,743 --> 00:40:55,579 because he had to guard Jordan on a few occasions. 718 00:40:55,663 --> 00:40:58,374 Walton with five. Next foul and he's gone... 719 00:40:58,457 --> 00:41:00,417 Jordan isolated one-on-one... 720 00:41:01,126 --> 00:41:02,042 Basket... 721 00:41:02,044 --> 00:41:03,128 Walton fouled out. 722 00:41:03,212 --> 00:41:06,799 Jordan has shot 18 free throws and made 16. 723 00:41:22,189 --> 00:41:23,607 Oh, my! 724 00:41:23,691 --> 00:41:25,526 48 for Michael Jordan. 725 00:41:31,657 --> 00:41:35,035 You liked 49 on Thursday. How about 50 on Sunday? 726 00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:36,620 Pull-up shot on Parish, good. 727 00:41:36,704 --> 00:41:37,996 Fifty-two for Jordan... 728 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,250 Michael, right base-line jumper... good! And a foul called. 729 00:41:41,333 --> 00:41:44,628 Michael shooting for the tie with no time left. 730 00:41:46,672 --> 00:41:49,007 Overtime in Boston Garden! 731 00:41:49,091 --> 00:41:50,843 Jordan hits it. Fifty-six for Jordan. 732 00:41:50,926 --> 00:41:55,681 Sixty-one points to tie all-time single-game playoff record... 733 00:41:55,806 --> 00:41:57,891 Got it! Sixty-three for Jordan! 734 00:41:57,975 --> 00:42:01,186 A new NBA record has been set in the Boston Garden. 735 00:42:01,270 --> 00:42:02,855 It was a high-scoring game. 736 00:42:03,272 --> 00:42:05,232 Fortunately for us, we had the last shot. 737 00:42:06,233 --> 00:42:08,026 Bird, pick and roll to Parish. 738 00:42:10,946 --> 00:42:14,116 And a hard-fought victory for the Boston Celtics 739 00:42:14,199 --> 00:42:15,617 to take a 2-0 lead. 740 00:42:15,701 --> 00:42:19,246 We were fortunate to win that game, but Michael put on a show. 741 00:42:19,329 --> 00:42:21,373 Our Miller Lite most valuable player 742 00:42:21,457 --> 00:42:23,125 of the game is Michael Jordan, 743 00:42:23,208 --> 00:42:27,629 with an all-time record 63 points in a single playoff game. 744 00:42:27,713 --> 00:42:29,153 We end up winning the series, 745 00:42:29,214 --> 00:42:32,551 but it was an incredible, incredible playoff performance. 746 00:42:32,634 --> 00:42:36,263 I've never seen it before and I had never seen it after. 747 00:42:36,346 --> 00:42:39,683 That wasn't Michael Jordan out there. That was God disguised as Michael Jordan. 748 00:42:43,437 --> 00:42:45,564 Nobody like him. 749 00:42:45,647 --> 00:42:47,941 Point blank. I never seen nobody play like he plays, 750 00:42:48,025 --> 00:42:51,069 and, uh, you can include all of 'em. 751 00:42:51,153 --> 00:42:55,157 Jordan is the most talented player in the NBA... 752 00:42:56,033 --> 00:42:58,410 uh, by far. 753 00:42:58,494 --> 00:43:00,913 Guys like myself and Larry, who knew the game, 754 00:43:00,996 --> 00:43:03,499 who knew championship basketball, 755 00:43:03,582 --> 00:43:06,210 we knew the guy was coming. Right? 756 00:43:06,293 --> 00:43:09,880 He just needed the right horses to go along with him. 757 00:43:11,173 --> 00:43:13,217 We realized that Michael Jordan 758 00:43:13,300 --> 00:43:15,511 was the greatest ball player in the NBA. 759 00:43:16,136 --> 00:43:19,473 So, a year later, we basically rebuilt the entire team. 760 00:43:20,057 --> 00:43:21,266 Krause went to work. 761 00:43:22,351 --> 00:43:25,771 We added some great people like Horace Grant and Scottie Pippen. 762 00:43:27,064 --> 00:43:29,274 We changed the makeup of the team. 763 00:43:30,317 --> 00:43:35,948 I will always give Jerry Krause credit for assembling a roster that fit. 764 00:43:37,157 --> 00:43:39,618 I'm sure one of the hardest trades he ever had to make 765 00:43:39,701 --> 00:43:42,329 was trading Charles Oakley to New York for Bill Cartwright. 766 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,166 We needed a big man. So, Bill was a great fit. 767 00:43:47,084 --> 00:43:48,252 As much as I love Charles, 768 00:43:48,335 --> 00:43:50,963 this fits us better than what Charles gives us right now. 769 00:43:51,463 --> 00:43:54,341 Michael was very fond of Charles 'cause Charles was his protector. 770 00:43:54,424 --> 00:43:57,302 Mike was always attacking the basket and he got knocked down a lot, 771 00:43:57,386 --> 00:43:59,429 and Charles was always the guy to back him up. 772 00:43:59,513 --> 00:44:02,099 Oakley going right after "Hot Rod" Williams. 773 00:44:02,683 --> 00:44:05,143 When Krause pulled the trigger on that trade, 774 00:44:05,227 --> 00:44:07,896 that was probably one of the defining things in his career. 775 00:44:08,355 --> 00:44:10,482 Charles Oakley and I were good friends. 776 00:44:10,566 --> 00:44:12,359 We'd spent a lot of time together. 777 00:44:12,442 --> 00:44:16,488 But things were in place for us to win, you know, when he left. 778 00:44:16,989 --> 00:44:19,408 Jerry did a phenomenal job with the team. 779 00:44:20,075 --> 00:44:22,911 He made great trades, made great free agent signings. 780 00:44:22,995 --> 00:44:24,454 He deserves a lot of credit. 781 00:44:24,538 --> 00:44:26,623 But he couldn't get out of his own way. 782 00:44:45,225 --> 00:44:48,604 Scottie had problems with Jerry and, um, 783 00:44:49,605 --> 00:44:51,398 it came out on several occasions. 784 00:44:51,899 --> 00:44:55,485 The thing was... And part of, you know, Scottie's anger, 785 00:44:55,569 --> 00:44:58,405 was they did look into seriously trading him 786 00:44:58,488 --> 00:45:00,782 after the '96-'97 season. 787 00:45:00,866 --> 00:45:02,451 Anybody can be traded 788 00:45:02,534 --> 00:45:04,745 and part of my responsibility 789 00:45:04,828 --> 00:45:08,081 is to listen to other teams when they talk to me about our players. 790 00:45:08,874 --> 00:45:11,126 And we think Scottie Pippen is certainly, 791 00:45:11,209 --> 00:45:13,211 one of the top couple of players in basketball, 792 00:45:13,295 --> 00:45:14,713 and feel very strongly about him. 793 00:45:14,796 --> 00:45:17,507 And I can't tell you what's gonna happen in the future, 794 00:45:17,591 --> 00:45:18,591 because I don't know. 795 00:45:21,219 --> 00:45:25,265 Krause's point then was, "Look, we're gonna lose Pippen in a year. 796 00:45:25,349 --> 00:45:27,309 The group doesn't have that much left. 797 00:45:28,060 --> 00:45:29,645 Let's blow it up now." 798 00:45:29,728 --> 00:45:31,188 But ownership said no. 799 00:45:31,730 --> 00:45:34,358 But I killed that because I decided that 800 00:45:34,441 --> 00:45:37,194 as long as Michael Jordan was still gonna be here, 801 00:45:37,277 --> 00:45:38,946 we gotta go for the sixth championship. 802 00:45:39,029 --> 00:45:42,407 Jerry, how close did you come to dealing Scottie Pippen? 803 00:45:42,491 --> 00:45:45,744 Well, we had a number of offers 804 00:45:46,578 --> 00:45:51,875 we thought were good offers for Scottie and for some of our other players. 805 00:45:51,959 --> 00:45:54,795 I'm never going to stop being aggressive, 806 00:45:54,878 --> 00:45:58,382 and I will never stop trying to do things to make the team better. 807 00:45:58,799 --> 00:46:01,009 That really is what sort of... 808 00:46:02,678 --> 00:46:05,639 tarnished my relationship with Jerry. 809 00:46:06,556 --> 00:46:09,851 He tried to make me feel so special, 810 00:46:10,852 --> 00:46:16,650 but yet, he was still, like, willing to trade and do all that stuff, 811 00:46:16,733 --> 00:46:20,320 but never would tell me to my face. 812 00:46:21,780 --> 00:46:23,657 After you're in the game for a while, 813 00:46:23,740 --> 00:46:26,785 you realize that nobody is untradeable, 814 00:46:27,577 --> 00:46:30,163 but I felt insulted. 815 00:46:31,206 --> 00:46:36,878 I sort of took the attitude of disrespecting him to some degree. 816 00:46:40,590 --> 00:46:42,843 There was always barbs going back and forth, 817 00:46:42,926 --> 00:46:45,470 but at a certain point, Scottie crossed a line. 818 00:46:46,805 --> 00:46:49,766 I mean, it was getting... personal. 819 00:46:51,059 --> 00:46:55,731 Pippen started abusing Krause openly, cursing him out on the bus. 820 00:46:55,814 --> 00:46:59,651 Couldn't tolerate him anymore. Didn't respect him. 821 00:47:01,403 --> 00:47:04,573 I remember some shots coming from the back of the bus. 822 00:47:06,033 --> 00:47:07,701 Raise your eyebrows, you know. 823 00:47:09,536 --> 00:47:14,458 Pippen started berating Jerry Krause... 824 00:47:15,792 --> 00:47:17,044 in front of the team. 825 00:47:17,794 --> 00:47:22,966 We had to say, "Hey, let's hold it down." You know? 826 00:47:23,050 --> 00:47:26,219 But that's when it was, like, "Hey, there's a divide here." 827 00:47:26,303 --> 00:47:30,682 It's not your normal... I mean, there's some hard feelings. 828 00:47:30,766 --> 00:47:32,476 "You don't appreciate me. 829 00:47:32,559 --> 00:47:34,728 You're trying to trade me. You won't pay me. 830 00:47:34,811 --> 00:47:37,981 Well, screw you. I'm taking care of myself now." 831 00:47:39,274 --> 00:47:43,445 I was at that point where I felt like I needed to do what was best for me. 832 00:47:45,113 --> 00:47:47,616 I felt like it was time for me to go shopping. 833 00:47:47,699 --> 00:47:50,410 Pippen is now demanding a trade and he says 834 00:47:50,494 --> 00:47:54,081 he will not return from the injured list until he is gone from Chicago. 835 00:47:54,164 --> 00:47:56,583 He said he's never gonna play for the Bulls ever again. 836 00:47:56,666 --> 00:47:58,668 "I'm never gonna wear this uniform ever again." 837 00:47:58,752 --> 00:48:01,672 Should the Bulls do something that would make you want to stay? 838 00:48:02,297 --> 00:48:05,842 I mean, no. I don't... I don't see myself carrying on. 839 00:48:07,052 --> 00:48:09,846 Scottie made some earth-shattering comments last night 840 00:48:09,930 --> 00:48:12,808 to one of the Chicago writers, about wanting to be traded. 841 00:48:12,891 --> 00:48:16,228 - Can we get your thoughts on that? - I don't really have any right now. 842 00:48:16,812 --> 00:48:19,940 I felt like Scottie was being selfish. 843 00:48:20,023 --> 00:48:22,442 Worrying about himself as opposed to 844 00:48:22,526 --> 00:48:26,071 what his word was to the organization as well as to the team. 845 00:48:28,115 --> 00:48:30,283 I'm done here, you know what I'm saying? 846 00:48:31,284 --> 00:48:34,579 You've already written my script out that this is it. 847 00:48:35,705 --> 00:48:38,208 So, I had to do what was best for me.