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Michael Jordan
has said it many times.

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He considers Madison Square Garden to be
the mecca of basketball.

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If, in fact, this is his final
NBA All-Star Game,

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it's a perfect place
to make a last statement.

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On the verge
of a repeat three-peat,

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Michael Jordan is playing his last year.

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Bulls GM Jerry Krause swore on Wednesday

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that Phil Jackson
would not return next year,

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and said if Michael chooses to leave

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because there was another coach,
then it's his choice.

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- Boy! Hey!
- What's up?

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Hey, your feet look good!

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Kobe Bryant,
the youngest All-Star in history

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- at 19 years, five months.
- I've talked to him.

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It's the same thing.
He's a 19-year-old kid.

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They're saying, "Kobe, you look ready
to be the man at the All-Star Game."

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You can't forget the king
is still on the court.

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Michael's going here?

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- There you go.
- You get the chair.

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Man, I must be the old guy.
I remember I used to be way in the back.

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We gave you
a nice, comfortable chair.

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So you're feeling all right, huh?

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I guess so,
since you're gonna play me 40 minutes.

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You better be ready.

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Good shots out there.

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If you don't have anything
in the middle, kick it out,

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make that extra pass,
somebody should be wide open for a three.

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While we're here, we might as well win.

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- Yeah.
- Right?

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That Laker boy's
gonna take everybody one-on-one.

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I know, right?

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- Yeah!
- Who, Kobe? Yeah.

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He don't let the game come
to him. He just go out there and take it.

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I'm going to make this shit happen.
I'm gonna make this a one-on-one game.

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I figured after the first four
attempts didn't go in, he was gonna chill.

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What?

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After the first four attempts?

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If I was his teammate,
I wouldn't pass him the fucking ball!

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You want this ball again, brother,
you better rebound.

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- This is the East locker room.
- Hold up, hold up.

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- Got nothing to do with the West.
- Hold up.

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He got nothing
but his damn Laker colors on.

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Yeah, yeah, like he coaching.

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Now, I'm with the old motherf... Oops!

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- The old mugs.
- There ain't many of us here.

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That's why I come to say
"What's up?" to my boy.

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- What's happening? How you doing?
- How you feeling?

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Damn!

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Good, man.

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- Michael...
- I'm lovin' it.

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Would you like to have
some of his ass today?

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Hey, you know
I'd be coming at him, Larry.

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Just like I used to come
at both of y'all.

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Just about tip-off time
at Madison Square Garden

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for the 48th NBA All-Star Game.

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And there you see Kobe Bryant
in the foreground,

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the man many have dubbed
the next Michael Jordan.

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I got Mike, I got Mike.

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- Here is Michael.
- Ah!

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Count it,
plus the foul for Jordan!

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I grew up watching Michael on TV,

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and now you got a chance
to go face-to-face with him.

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You get a chance to really see
and touch and feel...

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the strength, speed, quickness. And, um...

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It was fun to be out there.

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He's got the ball
in his hands again.

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To Garnett. Back to Kobe!

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Oh!

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He just wants to get
to the offensive end and go one-on-one.

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I'm gonna make his ass work down here.

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He make it out,
we gotta get back!

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He hauling ass.

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I ain't tryin' to be down there
on a poster, dog.

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I ain't jumpin' with him. No.

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It was a rough couple of years for me,
coming to the league.

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At the time, the league was much older.
It's not as young as it is today.

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So, nobody was really thinking much of me.

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I was the kid that... shot a bunch
of air-balls, you know what I mean?

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And at that point, Michael provided
a lot of guidance for me.

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I had a question
about shooting his turnaround shot,

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so I asked him about it.

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And he gave me a great, detailed answer,

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but on top of that, he said, "If you ever
need anything, give me a call."

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He's like my big brother.

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I truly hate having discussions
about who would win one-on-one,

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and fans saying, "Kobe,
you'd beat Michael one-on-one."

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And I feel like, "Yo!

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What you get from me
is from him."

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I don't get five championships here
without him,

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'cause he guided me so much
and he gave me so much great advice.

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Kobe had challenged Michael.

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Michael comes out and he's saying,
"Not tonight, young fella. Uh-uh, Kobe.

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I got some more tricks left in my bag."

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He's not ready to leave yet, folks.

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Great job, guys.
Hey, Jordan, you're my boy.

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Thank you. You know it, you know it.

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- I'll see you down the road.
- Cool.

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- Congratulations.
- You're my boy.

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See you in the Finals. Hopefully.

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- Y'all gonna be there.
- I know we will.

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I ain't that soft!

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Big Daddy!

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I'm only gonna allow him
to have his trophy

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if he promises to come back
and do it again.

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The All-Star of All-Stars,
the MVP, Michael Jordan.

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If there was ever any doubt

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that he could've kept playing
at an MVP and championship level...

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there's the All-Star Game, he's the MVP.

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He's still the star among stars.

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Even though there were
explanations offered,

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people couldn't understand
why he was gonna step away.

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The public wanted him to keep going.

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A spectacular move!

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The game's over!

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Chicago Stadium is going wild!

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First of all,
there's no backstabbing going on here.

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It's time for me to move on.

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This will be Phil's last year
as coach of the Bulls.

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- Are the expectations too high?
- Where do we go from here?

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The only question: how long can it last?

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Knowing this is the last dance,
unless something actually changes,

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I went into Madison Square Garden,

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"This is the last time
I'm gonna be playing here."

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And that was my favorite place to play.

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Went back and grabbed
an old pair of Jordan 1s.

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It's the first shoe I wore in the Garden,

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so this was gonna be the last shoe,

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being that this was the last time
I'd play in the Garden.

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Sweet. You laced those.

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Toni, you weren't around.
You was a baby when I broke these out.

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What was the year?

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- '84. How old were you?
- That's when I started.

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You were 12 years old.

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Toni was still in diapers.

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You look at these shoes,

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you put these shoes on
then put on some of them...

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Innovation has taken a long turn.

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I first met Michael Jordan in 1984.
I went to North Carolina

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to interview Michael and his family
to represent him.

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His parents asked great questions.

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They were very intelligent,
extremely personable.

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Our firm, ProServ, had a lot of
very high-profile tennis clients,

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like Jimmy Connors,
Stan Smith, Arthur Ashe.

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Arthur Ashe had his own shoes
and tennis racket.

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This is the racket I won Wimbledon with.
You could've bought it. Really.

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The strategy was to try to take
a team sport player

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and treat him more like a golfer
or a boxer or a tennis player.

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I said to David,
"What are you trying to do?

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You trying to turn this guy
into a tennis player?

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He's a basketball player,
he's not a tennis player."

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I said, "That's exactly what I'm trying
to do." And the very first deal was shoes.

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We took him out to meet Converse,

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which, at that time,
was the official shoe of the NBA.

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They have Magic Johnson,
Dr. J, Bernard King, Larry Bird...

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The Converse Weapon.
The number-one weapon in the NBA.

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Converse had big players,
and told me, "We cannot...

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envision you being put ahead of them."

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Okay. Fine.

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Did you have a shoe company
that you wanted to go with?

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That was Adidas.

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I like the Lakers
and I like Marques Johnson.

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And I like Adidas. I like the Adidas shoe.

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Adidas was really dysfunctional
by that time.

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They had just told me,
"We'd love to have Jordan.

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We just can't make a shoe work
at this point in time."

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I wanted Michael to go with Nike
because they were the upstart.

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In the early '80s, Nike was,
for the most part, a track shoe company.

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Michael didn't even wanna be at Nike.

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I couldn't even get him to get on
the damn plane and go visit the campus,

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so I called his parents.

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My mother said,
"You're gonna go listen.

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You may not like it,
but you're gonna go listen."

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"Mom, I don't wanna hear it.
I know what I wanna do.

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I am not going to Nike's, Mama."

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I says, "Michael,
you have to give 'em an opportunity."

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She made me go on that plane
and go listen.

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I go into that meeting,
not wanting to be there.

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Nike made this big pitch.

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My father said, "You gotta be a fool
for not taking this deal."

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Back then, the best guys might've gotten
$100,000 or so,

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and he got probably $250,000.

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It was like...

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"You will pay him what?

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A young rookie...

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that's done nothing?

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You must be out of your mind."

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When I negotiated the Nike deal,
I said to them,

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"You're a small company,
and if you want Michael Jordan,

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he's gotta have his own shoe line."

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Nike had just come out
with this new technology

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for their running shoes called Air Soles.

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And obviously, Michael played in the air.

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I said, "I got it.
We're gonna call it Air Jordan."

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"Air Jordan"?
That got a pretty good ring to it.

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Nike's expectation,
when we signed the deal,

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was at the end of year four,

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they hoped to sell $3 million
worth of Air Jordans.

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In year one, we sold $126 million.

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As a commodity,

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Michael Jordan is as hot
as a Cabbage Patch doll right now.

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The endorsements are fast and furious.

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The photo sessions seem endless.

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Like a politician,

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Jordan moves gracefully
through a crowd of admirers,

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sipping orange juice,
collecting business cards.

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Deals have already been cut with
Wilson Sporting Goods, McDonald's...

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For a kid, it was almost like...
holding a lightsaber from Star Wars.

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You needed that shoe to be like him.

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It was more than a status symbol.

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You knew this guy was the guy.

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They came in different styles.

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The other brands didn't change too much.
Jordans changed with the times.

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Everybody was like,
"You gotta get a pair of Jordans."

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And so, every year we would save up money.

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I would cut grass, and do chores,

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and save up money,
and wait in line at Foot Locker.

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Before Michael Jordan,
sneakers were just for playing basketball.

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And all of a sudden,
sneakers became fashion and culture.

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My first film was She's Gotta Have It.

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I played a character called Mars Blackmon.
And I made sure that Mars

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would be wearing a pair of Air Jordans

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because Michael is the hero
of the youth today.

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You stepped on my brand new
white Air Jordans that I just bought.

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- How much you pay for 'em?
- A hundred bucks!

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- American dollars!
- $108 with tax!

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I'd give him 100 headaches.

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And the fact that Nike used Spike Lee
to produce Jordan commercials

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suddenly brought urban culture

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and crossed it together with sports.

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Mark.

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Yo! Mars Blackmon here
with my main man Michael Jordan.

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Yo, Mike, what makes you
the best player in the universe?

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- Is it the vicious dunks?
- No, Mars.

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- Is it the haircut?
- No, Mars.

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- Is it the shoes?
- No, Mars.

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Money, it's gotta be the shoes.

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Shoes. Shoes. Shoes. Shoes.

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- You sure it's not the shoes?
- I'm sure, Mars.

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Cut!

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My game
was my biggest endorsement.

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What I did on the basketball court,
my dedication to the game,

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led to all this other stuff.

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Believe me, if I was averaging two points,
three rebounds,

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I wouldn't have signed anything
with anybody.

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So, my game did all my talking.

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We are back at Madison Square Garden.

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Michael Jordan wearing
the original Air Jordans

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that he wore the first time he played
at Madison Square Garden back in 1984.

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And Michael will get
a standing ovation

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from the Garden crowd here.

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Michael. Two seconds
to shoot. Over Houston. Got it!

252
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It must be the shoes.

253
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Michael... hits again!

254
00:14:25,866 --> 00:14:28,426
This is beautiful
basketball that we're watching.

255
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By half-time, my feet are bleeding.

256
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But I'm having a good game.
I don't wanna take 'em off.

257
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Michael... Oh, my goodness!

258
00:14:40,589 --> 00:14:44,009
A number of the players and even
two of the officials are laughing.

259
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Michael Jordan now has 40 points.

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And only one guy
has this level of artistry.

261
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Spinning in the lane for the slam!

262
00:14:52,642 --> 00:14:55,103
And Spike Lee
is all over Michael Jordan,

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00:14:55,187 --> 00:14:57,814
and Michael has a few words
by way of retort.

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He just told him
that he couldn't guard him.

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He said, "You can't guard me.
You too little."

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Then he says, "You come out here."
Spike says, "I will, Money."

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Michael with 42,

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00:15:11,953 --> 00:15:15,082
and if this was Michael Jordan's
final game at Madison Square Garden,

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he leaves no doubt whatsoever
that he exits just as he entered.

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The best there is.

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I couldn't take those shoes off
fast enough.

272
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And when I took the shoes off,
my sock was soaked in blood.

273
00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,722
It's kind of fun to
come back here and play,

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and remember some of the old days
and some of the things...

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Some of the games that I've had here,
and the shoes was a part of that...

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My feet are killing me.

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- Michael!
- Michael!

278
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Close that door.
Hey, close that door!

279
00:15:51,243 --> 00:15:53,745
I had to go back to all the way to '84
to whip y'all ass.

280
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- Don't start that shit.
- I won't.

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How you been doing?

282
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Prior to the season of '92,

283
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the team talked about the difficulty
of repeating.

284
00:16:25,694 --> 00:16:28,113
And we had this statement,
"You're only a success

285
00:16:28,196 --> 00:16:30,532
at the moment you perform
a successful act."

286
00:16:30,615 --> 00:16:31,825
You have to do it again.

287
00:16:38,039 --> 00:16:43,044
Jordan with the block
and then the save, which was unbelievable.

288
00:16:47,299 --> 00:16:51,219
I've always thought that the '92 team
was maybe the best Bulls team ever.

289
00:17:04,524 --> 00:17:09,237
Starting with that season, I felt Michael
never played basketball anymore.

290
00:17:09,321 --> 00:17:10,989
He just figured out how to win the game.

291
00:17:11,573 --> 00:17:16,953
He knew how to steer momentum,
he knew how to get guys going.

292
00:17:17,662 --> 00:17:20,457
And not only was he that good
on the offensive end,

293
00:17:20,540 --> 00:17:22,459
he was just as good on the defensive end.

294
00:17:23,210 --> 00:17:26,129
He was just playing a different game
than the rest of us.

295
00:17:27,255 --> 00:17:30,759
He'd let us play.
But he was there to win the game.

296
00:17:31,551 --> 00:17:32,636
And he knew that.

297
00:17:32,719 --> 00:17:36,139
And once he figured that out,
you couldn't beat him.

298
00:17:37,515 --> 00:17:40,685
Good evening,
basketball fans, wherever you may be.

299
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Tonight begins the 1992 NBA Finals.

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00:17:47,275 --> 00:17:49,712
The Chicago Bulls,
the Portland Trail Blazers.

301
00:17:49,736 --> 00:17:52,864
The two best teams in the NBA
go head-to-head.

302
00:17:52,948 --> 00:17:56,076
We have two great teams
led by two superstar players.

303
00:17:56,159 --> 00:17:59,788
All eyes will be focused on the matchup
of Drexler and Jordan.

304
00:17:59,871 --> 00:18:01,373
When you look at these two players,

305
00:18:01,456 --> 00:18:03,792
there's not a whole lot of difference
between 'em.

306
00:18:03,875 --> 00:18:07,796
Both had outstanding seasons, seasons that
statistically mirrored each other.

307
00:18:08,380 --> 00:18:11,341
Clyde The Glide says,
"We're the two best in the game,

308
00:18:11,424 --> 00:18:13,927
but I'm not getting into
a war of words with Mike."

309
00:18:14,010 --> 00:18:17,430
Clyde was a threat.
I'm not saying he wasn't a threat.

310
00:18:17,514 --> 00:18:20,850
But me being compared to him,
I took offense to that.

311
00:18:21,351 --> 00:18:22,936
I'm working for NBC.

312
00:18:23,853 --> 00:18:25,146
I'm covering the Finals.

313
00:18:26,064 --> 00:18:31,194
So, the night before game one,
we're at Michael's house, playing cards,

314
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and he said, "You know
what's gonna happen tomorrow.

315
00:18:33,947 --> 00:18:35,615
I'm gonna give it to this dude."

316
00:18:38,034 --> 00:18:39,714
And the matchup
at the start,

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Michael Jordan facing Clyde Drexler.

318
00:18:43,957 --> 00:18:47,210
Jordan... from three-point land!

319
00:18:47,294 --> 00:18:48,545
So he hit that first three.

320
00:18:48,628 --> 00:18:51,399
- Here's Pippen.
- And then here come the second.

321
00:18:51,423 --> 00:18:54,759
- Open for another three!
- The third one.

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00:18:54,843 --> 00:18:57,304
Back to Jordan.
And hit for three!

323
00:18:57,387 --> 00:19:00,098
That's his fourth three-point field goal.

324
00:19:00,682 --> 00:19:06,062
Michael Jordan, with four three-pointers
in a half, has tied the NBA Finals record.

325
00:19:06,146 --> 00:19:10,525
Michael didn't want anybody
to have nothing over him.

326
00:19:10,608 --> 00:19:13,194
Jordan for three! Yes!

327
00:19:14,321 --> 00:19:19,993
An NBA Finals record.
Five three-pointers in a half.

328
00:19:20,076 --> 00:19:24,205
And every time he hit a three,
he glanced over at me, at the NBC table.

329
00:19:24,789 --> 00:19:27,584
Here's Jordan again
from downtown.

330
00:19:29,210 --> 00:19:33,423
Did you see that look?
Michael indicating he can't believe it.

331
00:19:35,550 --> 00:19:41,473
An NBA championship record,
35 points in the half.

332
00:19:41,556 --> 00:19:44,726
And he was like...
"I'm killing this dude."

333
00:19:48,772 --> 00:19:52,150
Based on the way I was playing
at that time, it wasn't even close.

334
00:19:53,193 --> 00:19:54,986
So I attacked him every night.

335
00:19:58,573 --> 00:19:59,991
Here's Jordan.

336
00:20:04,662 --> 00:20:06,623
Jordan. Nice.

337
00:20:06,706 --> 00:20:07,999
Thirty-five seconds.

338
00:20:08,458 --> 00:20:09,959
Grant wide open!

339
00:20:12,587 --> 00:20:17,592
What a move by Jordan!
Amazing! And hitting!

340
00:20:23,681 --> 00:20:25,725
Four-point Chicago lead.

341
00:20:25,809 --> 00:20:29,270
Drexler with the check. He thought
there might be a timeout remaining.

342
00:20:36,778 --> 00:20:41,241
The Chicago Bulls have won
the NBA championship

343
00:20:41,324 --> 00:20:43,410
for the second straight season!

344
00:20:49,249 --> 00:20:54,129
One is great, two is almost impossible.
Congratulations, Chicago.

345
00:20:54,712 --> 00:20:57,173
This is the happiest moment
in many, many years!

346
00:20:57,257 --> 00:21:01,177
It feels so good. Oh, boy!

347
00:21:01,261 --> 00:21:04,889
The one thing I would say, and I'd say it
from Jerry Reinsdorf on down,

348
00:21:04,973 --> 00:21:06,975
this is a great organization.

349
00:21:07,058 --> 00:21:09,060
This organization is special.

350
00:21:09,144 --> 00:21:12,439
From Jerry... It starts with Jerry,
and it goes down all the way to Joe Lee,

351
00:21:12,522 --> 00:21:14,941
our clubhouse guy
who's been here 25 years.

352
00:21:15,024 --> 00:21:17,694
It's an organization thing,
and that's what it's all about.

353
00:21:17,777 --> 00:21:21,030
The team is great, but the organization
is one of the all-time great,

354
00:21:21,114 --> 00:21:24,701
if not the greatest organization ever.
That's what I'm so much proud of.

355
00:21:26,536 --> 00:21:28,788
- Are you smoking a cigar, Mike?
- Yeah.

356
00:21:28,872 --> 00:21:29,872
Give me one.

357
00:21:30,331 --> 00:21:32,584
You can't smoke it.
It will stunt your growth.

358
00:21:34,961 --> 00:21:37,464
Coming off
his second championship...

359
00:21:38,214 --> 00:21:41,259
second Finals MVP, second MVP season,

360
00:21:42,302 --> 00:21:44,053
Michael was the king of the world.

361
00:21:44,637 --> 00:21:50,226
And it was the first year that we were
trying to get the pros into the Olympics.

362
00:21:50,310 --> 00:21:52,562
When are you putting on
the USAB sneakers?

363
00:21:53,104 --> 00:21:55,982
Uh... It's a week from Sunday, isn't it?

364
00:21:56,065 --> 00:21:57,108
Yeah.

365
00:21:57,192 --> 00:21:59,819
Yeah, but I got a lot of partying to do
from now until then.

366
00:22:00,403 --> 00:22:02,572
- Hey, Phil!
- I'm in charge of it today.

367
00:22:02,655 --> 00:22:04,073
He knows the neighborhood.

368
00:22:04,782 --> 00:22:06,242
I tell you, the Olympics...

369
00:22:06,326 --> 00:22:09,370
If Chuck Daly plays me
over ten minutes, I'm quitting.

370
00:22:23,927 --> 00:22:27,514
With the United States Basketball
taking a beating at international play,

371
00:22:27,597 --> 00:22:31,226
the call went out for NBA help.
The result?

372
00:22:31,309 --> 00:22:34,062
In 1992, for the first time,

373
00:22:34,145 --> 00:22:38,107
a team of mostly NBA players
will defend America's Olympic pride.

374
00:22:41,444 --> 00:22:43,613
Before the '92 Olympics,

375
00:22:44,781 --> 00:22:48,618
Rod Thorn calls me and says, "We would
love for you to be on the Dream Team."

376
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,787
I says, "Who's all playing?"

377
00:22:52,038 --> 00:22:54,999
He says, "What does that mean?"
I said, "Who's all playing?"

378
00:22:56,167 --> 00:22:58,628
He says,
"Well, the guy you're talking about

379
00:22:58,711 --> 00:23:01,130
or you're thinking about
is not gonna be playing."

380
00:23:02,799 --> 00:23:05,552
We're going
to ask a few things about the Olympics.

381
00:23:05,635 --> 00:23:07,428
All right. No Isiah Thomas stuff.

382
00:23:07,512 --> 00:23:09,352
- No Isiah Thomas questions.
- Cool.

383
00:23:10,014 --> 00:23:12,225
Now there has been speculation

384
00:23:12,308 --> 00:23:16,604
that your icy relationship
with Isiah Thomas

385
00:23:16,688 --> 00:23:19,983
is the reason that he was not selected.

386
00:23:20,567 --> 00:23:22,694
I respect Isiah Thomas' talent.

387
00:23:23,236 --> 00:23:26,614
To me, the best point guard
of all time is Magic Johnson

388
00:23:26,698 --> 00:23:28,658
and right behind him is Isiah Thomas.

389
00:23:29,409 --> 00:23:32,495
No matter how much I hate him,
I respect his game.

390
00:23:32,579 --> 00:23:35,206
Now, it was insinuated
that I was asking about him,

391
00:23:35,290 --> 00:23:37,625
but I never threw his name in there.

392
00:23:38,793 --> 00:23:41,379
I don't know what went into that process.

393
00:23:42,297 --> 00:23:45,508
I met the criteria to be selected.

394
00:23:46,551 --> 00:23:47,594
But I wasn't.

395
00:23:48,511 --> 00:23:51,097
The Dream Team, based on the environment,

396
00:23:51,848 --> 00:23:54,726
and the camaraderie that happened
on that team...

397
00:23:55,768 --> 00:23:57,186
It was the best harmony.

398
00:23:57,270 --> 00:24:00,857
Would Isiah have made
a different feeling on that team? Yes.

399
00:24:02,942 --> 00:24:06,029
- Magic Johnson angry.
- He's very upset.

400
00:24:06,112 --> 00:24:08,865
At that point, Magic and Isiah
had had their thing.

401
00:24:09,490 --> 00:24:11,701
Bird and Isiah have had their thing.

402
00:24:12,243 --> 00:24:15,538
And Scottie. That's half the team.

403
00:24:15,622 --> 00:24:17,040
They did not want to play with him.

404
00:24:18,041 --> 00:24:19,834
Everybody puts it on Michael

405
00:24:19,917 --> 00:24:22,295
'cause we knew that dislike
was out in the open.

406
00:24:22,378 --> 00:24:26,007
They left the bench
although there's 7.9 seconds remaining.

407
00:24:26,090 --> 00:24:27,884
The Pistons just left.

408
00:24:27,967 --> 00:24:29,677
But there was a lot more to it than that.

409
00:24:29,761 --> 00:24:34,390
You want to attribute it to me, go ahead,
be my guest, but it wasn't me.

410
00:24:35,391 --> 00:24:38,019
With Jordan, Pippen, Magic
and Bird leading the way,

411
00:24:38,102 --> 00:24:40,897
this team's billed as
the greatest ever assembled.

412
00:24:41,648 --> 00:24:43,368
What did you treasure
the most

413
00:24:43,441 --> 00:24:44,901
about that experience that summer?

414
00:24:44,984 --> 00:24:47,987
The practices... and the camaraderie.

415
00:24:48,071 --> 00:24:50,239
You know, how the guys bonded together.

416
00:24:59,540 --> 00:25:00,833
Great!

417
00:25:00,917 --> 00:25:03,211
You can't get too close to Michael.
It's a foul.

418
00:25:03,294 --> 00:25:05,171
Hey.

419
00:25:05,254 --> 00:25:09,342
You haven't committed a foul in almost
a year and a half, man. How can you talk?

420
00:25:10,176 --> 00:25:11,177
My goodness.

421
00:25:12,261 --> 00:25:14,222
I don't think you ever
fouled out of a game.

422
00:25:14,305 --> 00:25:15,848
When did he ever foul out of the game?

423
00:25:15,932 --> 00:25:19,602
I'm the young guy
with the elder statesmen.

424
00:25:19,686 --> 00:25:22,605
That's right, that's right.
They all have to listen to me.

425
00:25:22,689 --> 00:25:24,190
Whatever I say, goes.

426
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:26,400
Who's that?

427
00:25:26,818 --> 00:25:31,197
Man, I had some of my fondest
memories just hanging out with Michael.

428
00:25:33,366 --> 00:25:35,910
We played cards every night
against each other,

429
00:25:35,993 --> 00:25:39,872
and if I had the upper hand,
he wanted to play another hour.

430
00:25:41,082 --> 00:25:42,250
Another hour.

431
00:25:42,875 --> 00:25:45,044
And then, he never wants to just beat you.

432
00:25:45,128 --> 00:25:50,049
He wants to put his foot
on your neck and just...

433
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,844
I mean, "You're not satisfied
with beating me,

434
00:25:52,927 --> 00:25:54,387
you wanna crush me, too?"

435
00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:55,304
"Yup."

436
00:25:55,388 --> 00:25:58,266
They had a practice game in Monte Carlo.

437
00:25:59,225 --> 00:26:04,397
And Magic and Barkley's team
got off to a big lead.

438
00:26:04,939 --> 00:26:07,191
- Ball!
- Whoo! Yes!

439
00:26:07,817 --> 00:26:11,904
That was the greatest basketball, I think,
that we all were involved in.

440
00:26:12,572 --> 00:26:16,617
Great passing, great shooting,
great defense.

441
00:26:17,660 --> 00:26:20,371
All NBA players going back and forth
at each other.

442
00:26:21,873 --> 00:26:22,707
Let's go.

443
00:26:22,790 --> 00:26:25,209
There was real trash talking
going on from...

444
00:26:25,293 --> 00:26:27,462
Particularly from Charles and Magic
toward Michael.

445
00:26:27,545 --> 00:26:28,671
Don't be cheatin' on me!

446
00:26:28,755 --> 00:26:31,215
Magic always got under Michael's skin
for some reason.

447
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,011
Right there.
Right back at it, baby.

448
00:26:35,094 --> 00:26:37,096
I'm coming after you. Free throws.

449
00:26:37,180 --> 00:26:40,558
It's all right! That's all right!
Here we go!

450
00:26:42,643 --> 00:26:44,979
God damn.
You don't play no defense. That's weak.

451
00:26:45,062 --> 00:26:47,648
We ain't in Chicago Stadium
no more.

452
00:26:47,732 --> 00:26:50,777
We're up about eight points, I think.
Something like that.

453
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:52,737
And I went over and tapped him.

454
00:26:53,863 --> 00:26:58,409
I said, "Look, man, if you don't turn into
Air Jordan, we gonna blow you out."

455
00:26:59,660 --> 00:27:01,746
Man, what did I say that for?

456
00:27:01,829 --> 00:27:05,583
Michael proceeded to score
every time down the court.

457
00:27:06,417 --> 00:27:08,294
He was like,
"You wanna know who the guy is?

458
00:27:08,377 --> 00:27:09,377
Here's who the guy is."

459
00:27:10,046 --> 00:27:12,131
He broke the huddle,
hit a three. Bam!

460
00:27:12,215 --> 00:27:14,801
Came back down, hit another three. Bam!

461
00:27:14,884 --> 00:27:18,095
He came through the middle
and just shook everybody. Bam!

462
00:27:18,846 --> 00:27:21,766
Before we know, they was up two.

463
00:27:22,266 --> 00:27:23,351
Yes!

464
00:27:23,434 --> 00:27:24,268
Yes!

465
00:27:24,352 --> 00:27:28,314
He drove to the basket
and the referee called a foul,

466
00:27:28,898 --> 00:27:32,276
and Magic threw the ball up
to the top of the arena

467
00:27:32,819 --> 00:27:34,904
and was screaming about,

468
00:27:34,987 --> 00:27:38,950
"Just like the NBA, he gets every call!
Same thing over here!"

469
00:27:39,033 --> 00:27:41,953
All they did was move
the Bulls stadium right here.

470
00:27:42,036 --> 00:27:44,622
That's all they did. That's all they did.

471
00:27:44,705 --> 00:27:46,833
This is the '90s.

472
00:27:46,916 --> 00:27:50,628
I don't care if it's the '90s
or not. What's that supposed to mean?

473
00:27:50,711 --> 00:27:52,588
This is the '90s.

474
00:27:55,633 --> 00:27:57,385
How you like that ass kicking
we gave y'all?

475
00:27:57,468 --> 00:27:59,053
No, no, no. Come on, now.

476
00:28:00,263 --> 00:28:04,392
After the practice, they get
on the bus to go back to the hotel.

477
00:28:05,351 --> 00:28:09,313
And for a couple of minutes,
there's no talking.

478
00:28:10,356 --> 00:28:13,526
When we got on the bus,
it was... It was... Whoo! Man.

479
00:28:13,609 --> 00:28:17,488
And all of a sudden,
Magic says to Barkley,

480
00:28:17,572 --> 00:28:20,449
"Hey, Charles, I guess we
shouldn't have pissed the man off."

481
00:28:20,533 --> 00:28:24,245
And then everybody, "This is
the greatest practice ever. We love this!"

482
00:28:24,829 --> 00:28:25,872
Ooh, la, la!

483
00:28:25,955 --> 00:28:31,419
After that game, everyone
acknowledged we're in a new era.

484
00:28:32,044 --> 00:28:35,006
Michael Jordan was the alpha-alpha.

485
00:28:36,632 --> 00:28:37,717
Period.

486
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:38,902
- Michael!
- What's up?

487
00:28:38,926 --> 00:28:42,054
Game on the line,
who would take the last shot?

488
00:28:42,138 --> 00:28:43,138
Me.

489
00:28:44,307 --> 00:28:46,100
- That's a dumb question. Me.
- Yeah.

490
00:28:47,643 --> 00:28:50,104
But now,
a cavalry rides to the rescue.

491
00:28:50,187 --> 00:28:51,647
As the Olympics open to NBA players,

492
00:28:51,731 --> 00:28:54,817
the US sends
the greatest team ever assembled.

493
00:28:55,693 --> 00:28:58,529
The United States will be
the overwhelming favorite in Barcelona.

494
00:28:58,613 --> 00:29:01,657
Among the competition, though,
there's one team that stands out.

495
00:29:01,741 --> 00:29:03,993
Like the USA, it's loaded with talent.

496
00:29:04,076 --> 00:29:06,704
Croatia has built a basketball powerhouse.

497
00:29:09,957 --> 00:29:14,462
There's Toni Kukoc, the 6'10" wizard
they call the left-handed Magic Johnson.

498
00:29:14,545 --> 00:29:17,757
A lot of excitement about
tomorrow's game against Croatia,

499
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,636
our first chance to see Toni Kukoc
against this kind of competition.

500
00:29:21,719 --> 00:29:23,763
What do you know about him and them?

501
00:29:23,846 --> 00:29:25,056
I don't know a lot about him,

502
00:29:25,139 --> 00:29:28,809
but if you listen to Michael and Scottie,
they know a whole lot about him

503
00:29:28,893 --> 00:29:31,187
because, apparently,
there was some mixed emotions

504
00:29:31,270 --> 00:29:33,397
about him going to Chicago.

505
00:29:34,273 --> 00:29:40,154
With the second pick in the second round,
the Chicago Bulls select Toni Kukoc.

506
00:29:40,237 --> 00:29:43,824
Toni's certainly an outstanding
young prospect.

507
00:29:44,408 --> 00:29:46,911
I also think
that he's an outstanding young man.

508
00:29:48,204 --> 00:29:50,498
But after I was drafted
by the Bulls,

509
00:29:50,581 --> 00:29:53,918
the situation at home was not so great,

510
00:29:54,585 --> 00:29:56,295
'cause of the war and everything.

511
00:29:56,879 --> 00:29:59,548
Yugoslavia is, of course,
a country divided.

512
00:29:59,632 --> 00:30:02,843
In June, two of its republics,
Croatia and Slovenia,

513
00:30:02,927 --> 00:30:06,347
declared their independence,
igniting a bloody civil war.

514
00:30:07,348 --> 00:30:10,810
I just decided to play
a couple more years in Europe first.

515
00:30:12,061 --> 00:30:18,776
Just to be there, kind of,
just to, uh, not take off completely.

516
00:30:19,527 --> 00:30:22,530
And I was making
considerably more in Europe

517
00:30:22,613 --> 00:30:25,449
than I would make
my first couple of years here.

518
00:30:26,033 --> 00:30:29,912
We're not talking a little money,
we're talking a couple million.

519
00:30:30,496 --> 00:30:34,542
Jerry went over to watch Toni play
in what was then Yugoslavia

520
00:30:34,625 --> 00:30:39,338
and said Toni Kukoc is gonna be
the future of the Chicago Bulls.

521
00:30:41,716 --> 00:30:45,553
Jerry was fawning
over Toni so much

522
00:30:45,636 --> 00:30:49,473
while our team here
was winning championships.

523
00:30:49,557 --> 00:30:53,978
And it just... It rubbed a lot of
the players the wrong way, unfortunately.

524
00:30:54,061 --> 00:30:57,565
The timing of this Kukoc thing
is where the problem has been all along.

525
00:30:57,648 --> 00:30:59,900
He went out to negotiate with Kukoc

526
00:30:59,984 --> 00:31:03,029
while Pippen was waiting to sign
the deal that he's currently under.

527
00:31:03,112 --> 00:31:05,656
They put him on hold
while they negotiated with Kukoc.

528
00:31:05,740 --> 00:31:10,244
Krause, you know, he's willing to put
someone in front of his actual kids,

529
00:31:10,327 --> 00:31:14,165
who have given him everything
that we could give him.

530
00:31:16,042 --> 00:31:19,920
At that time, I have no idea
what was going on with the Bulls.

531
00:31:20,004 --> 00:31:24,091
I don't know the frictions between
Scottie and Jerry, Michael and Jerry.

532
00:31:25,051 --> 00:31:29,972
So, going to the Olympics,
I kinda thought everything was okay.

533
00:31:31,015 --> 00:31:34,143
The major story line
that carries into this game

534
00:31:34,226 --> 00:31:36,312
involves European star Toni Kukoc.

535
00:31:36,395 --> 00:31:39,899
In the Dream Team locker room,
before the first game against Croatia,

536
00:31:39,982 --> 00:31:44,779
Michael just said, "Hey, guys. Kukoc.
Leave him for Scottie and me."

537
00:31:47,031 --> 00:31:49,241
Kukoc being played
by Pippen.

538
00:31:50,534 --> 00:31:52,369
And Kukoc went to the reverse.

539
00:31:53,287 --> 00:31:55,831
There's Jordan with the step on Kukoc.

540
00:31:56,540 --> 00:31:59,627
Kukoc trying to return it,
Pippen with the steal.

541
00:32:00,211 --> 00:32:01,879
Well, I didn't play a good game.

542
00:32:01,962 --> 00:32:06,592
I got surprised
by how strict they played defense.

543
00:32:06,675 --> 00:32:10,888
I didn't expect somebody to be next to me
literally the whole game.

544
00:32:10,971 --> 00:32:15,643
Jordan and Pippen are intent
on showing their superiority.

545
00:32:16,477 --> 00:32:20,773
Toni Kukoc became a great teammate
and I love Toni Kukoc for who he is,

546
00:32:21,273 --> 00:32:23,984
but the way he was introduced
to me and Scottie was...

547
00:32:24,068 --> 00:32:27,071
I didn't appreciate it
and it drove my energy.

548
00:32:27,154 --> 00:32:29,532
And at this point,
Toni Kukoc...

549
00:32:30,116 --> 00:32:33,577
zero points, zero rebounds
for the Croatian team.

550
00:32:33,661 --> 00:32:35,830
Jordan and Pippen have been all over him.

551
00:32:35,913 --> 00:32:39,708
I felt bad for Toni and I thought
Michael and Scottie were out of line.

552
00:32:39,792 --> 00:32:41,001
He was terrified.

553
00:32:41,877 --> 00:32:43,879
And it's Pippen again.

554
00:32:43,963 --> 00:32:45,548
Here's Pippen...

555
00:32:46,215 --> 00:32:49,885
Third foul.
Pippen with a setup from below.

556
00:32:49,969 --> 00:32:52,888
Well, to this point,
it has been all Scottie Pippen.

557
00:32:54,515 --> 00:32:57,601
Jerry paved the way
for a lot of hell on Toni Kukoc.

558
00:32:59,145 --> 00:33:00,980
Not only was it just me and Michael,

559
00:33:01,063 --> 00:33:05,568
but every guy on that Olympic team
looked at that kid and felt like,

560
00:33:05,651 --> 00:33:09,071
"He may not even think about coming
to the NBA after he played against us."

561
00:33:09,155 --> 00:33:10,739
The pressure continues.

562
00:33:11,740 --> 00:33:15,703
It wasn't anything personally
about Toni...

563
00:33:16,287 --> 00:33:20,457
but we were gonna do everything
that we could to make Jerry look bad.

564
00:33:20,541 --> 00:33:22,209
Eighteen off a 19-5 run.

565
00:33:22,293 --> 00:33:25,629
Jordan rejected Kukoc.
Here's a three-on-two.

566
00:33:25,713 --> 00:33:27,798
Pippen, all the way!

567
00:33:30,134 --> 00:33:32,011
A 33-point victory.

568
00:33:32,094 --> 00:33:35,055
Pippen also holding
Toni Kukoc to four points.

569
00:33:35,639 --> 00:33:40,352
I know Scottie was a little pissed about
all the publicity surrounding Kukoc,

570
00:33:40,436 --> 00:33:44,690
and he proved today that if they gonna
give anybody in Chicago any more money,

571
00:33:44,773 --> 00:33:45,900
it better be him.

572
00:33:46,650 --> 00:33:50,070
I still hear talk that he just had
a bad game, he was nervous, but...

573
00:33:50,696 --> 00:33:54,450
if he's that nervous, then he can't
come to the NBA and play two games.

574
00:33:54,533 --> 00:33:55,701
They didn't know me.

575
00:33:55,784 --> 00:33:59,371
I don't see a reason...
Why would they try and take it on me?

576
00:33:59,455 --> 00:34:00,873
They don't know me at all.

577
00:34:00,956 --> 00:34:03,417
That's the first time we meet.

578
00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:06,420
Scottie says he doesn't
think he could play in the NBA.

579
00:34:06,503 --> 00:34:07,503
Do you agree?

580
00:34:08,339 --> 00:34:11,717
Yeah, that's a little bit unfair
and unjust to him. You gotta realize,

581
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,304
the guy was playing against 11
of the best players in the league.

582
00:34:15,387 --> 00:34:17,973
Once we were in the finals,
because obviously...

583
00:34:18,057 --> 00:34:22,853
the United States is gonna be
the second finalist, then we'll play.

584
00:34:22,937 --> 00:34:25,064
Coming up shortly,
the Dream Team,

585
00:34:25,147 --> 00:34:28,776
the US Men's Basketball Team,
will take on Croatia for the gold medal.

586
00:34:29,777 --> 00:34:32,947
This is the second meeting
between the United States and Croatia.

587
00:34:33,030 --> 00:34:37,743
The last time they met, last week,
the United States won by 33 points.

588
00:34:37,826 --> 00:34:39,666
The second game
when we played them,

589
00:34:39,703 --> 00:34:41,223
Kukoc came back and I give him credit.

590
00:34:41,288 --> 00:34:44,625
He came back and played a much better game
than he did the first game.

591
00:34:48,170 --> 00:34:50,506
Toni Kukoc certainly
has turned it around

592
00:34:50,589 --> 00:34:55,052
from his performance in the earlier
meeting against the United States.

593
00:34:55,135 --> 00:34:59,223
Americans didn't understand
how tough people like Toni Kukoc were.

594
00:34:59,306 --> 00:35:00,140
They had no idea.

595
00:35:00,224 --> 00:35:03,727
Some people have no idea
about the war-torn situations,

596
00:35:03,811 --> 00:35:08,941
and the poverty and the oppression
that guys like Kukoc came from,

597
00:35:09,024 --> 00:35:10,985
that produced them, that hardened them.

598
00:35:11,068 --> 00:35:12,820
So, it was stupid to call him soft.

599
00:35:13,821 --> 00:35:17,283
He had to fight to gain their respect...
and he did it.

600
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,703
To come back after being
totally emasculated,

601
00:35:20,786 --> 00:35:22,830
it showed me a lot about Toni Kukoc.

602
00:35:22,913 --> 00:35:26,542
Kukoc now has 16 points,
six assists.

603
00:35:27,084 --> 00:35:29,253
I remember Michael coming
to the locker room saying,

604
00:35:29,336 --> 00:35:32,131
"He played pretty well.
He's tougher than we thought."

605
00:35:36,468 --> 00:35:42,141
117-85 and they have,
as expected, won the gold.

606
00:35:42,766 --> 00:35:45,561
The team won the '92 Olympics.

607
00:35:45,644 --> 00:35:48,022
And then, Michael decided

608
00:35:48,105 --> 00:35:53,569
that he didn't want to display
the Reebok logo

609
00:35:53,652 --> 00:35:55,696
that was on his uniform.

610
00:35:58,032 --> 00:36:00,784
Maybe Michael Jordan
did come to the '92 Olympics

611
00:36:00,868 --> 00:36:04,246
with an innocent desire
to recapture his pure love of sport,

612
00:36:04,330 --> 00:36:07,041
but money quickly complicated
the sentimental journey.

613
00:36:07,583 --> 00:36:10,961
Reebok had spent millions
to outfit the teams in Barcelona

614
00:36:11,045 --> 00:36:14,089
and expected all US athletes
to display its logo,

615
00:36:14,173 --> 00:36:16,884
especially the high-profile Dream Team.

616
00:36:20,262 --> 00:36:22,765
Harvey Schiller. What a dick.

617
00:36:22,848 --> 00:36:23,766
Who is that?

618
00:36:23,849 --> 00:36:26,894
The guy who said
if we don't wear our uniforms,

619
00:36:26,977 --> 00:36:30,647
we can't accept our gold medal
and all that stuff.

620
00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:33,776
Is that still a big issue?
They still talking about that?

621
00:36:33,859 --> 00:36:37,404
Nah. They said they are going
to try to hide the Reebok on it.

622
00:36:37,488 --> 00:36:39,823
But they can't hide it
like I'm gonna hide it.

623
00:36:41,533 --> 00:36:43,452
They in for a big fucking surprise.

624
00:36:46,246 --> 00:36:50,125
Michael was so singular
in his competitive drive

625
00:36:50,209 --> 00:36:52,920
and the drive that extended
to his partners, like Nike,

626
00:36:53,003 --> 00:36:58,008
that he could not bear the thought of
wearing the Reebok logo on a global stage,

627
00:36:58,092 --> 00:37:00,469
receiving a gold medal at the Olympics.

628
00:37:02,471 --> 00:37:08,018
So he covered the Reebok logo up
with the United States flag.

629
00:37:08,102 --> 00:37:11,522
Michael Jordan draped
in the American flag...

630
00:37:11,605 --> 00:37:12,773
It was extraordinary.

631
00:37:12,856 --> 00:37:15,526
I think that is not solely
for patriotic reasons.

632
00:37:17,778 --> 00:37:22,074
Here in Barcelona and the Olympics, these
folks have done a job taking basketball,

633
00:37:22,157 --> 00:37:26,370
and Michael Jordan, particularly,
to unbelievable heights.

634
00:37:26,453 --> 00:37:28,872
Michael was the face
of the Dream Team,

635
00:37:28,956 --> 00:37:33,919
and the Dream Team changed everything
about international basketball.

636
00:37:34,670 --> 00:37:37,631
The Dream Team's entirely responsible
for the NBA's profile

637
00:37:37,714 --> 00:37:41,260
taking a massive jump forward.

638
00:37:41,927 --> 00:37:45,848
It just... It shaped how the world
felt about the NBA.

639
00:37:47,224 --> 00:37:49,059
Michael Jordan, the Dream Team,

640
00:37:49,143 --> 00:37:54,731
helped bring sports into that place
of cultural influence globally.

641
00:37:54,815 --> 00:37:57,943
So it wasn't just music that was cool,

642
00:37:58,026 --> 00:38:02,072
it wasn't just fashion in the US
that was translating into other countries.

643
00:38:02,156 --> 00:38:04,533
All of a sudden, it was the NBA.

644
00:38:06,660 --> 00:38:10,914
I think it was the first time that
sports was being sold in a cultural way.

645
00:38:11,623 --> 00:38:13,542
We were selling Americana.

646
00:38:13,625 --> 00:38:19,131
And then what attached to it was this
incredibly handsome, successful player...

647
00:38:19,214 --> 00:38:24,094
his swagger, and people
wanted to be part of that.

648
00:38:28,557 --> 00:38:32,686
After the Olympics,
Michael was the most recognizable,

649
00:38:32,769 --> 00:38:35,856
the most popular sports figure,

650
00:38:35,939 --> 00:38:38,984
but really, cultural figure, in the world.

651
00:38:39,067 --> 00:38:41,487
He was really a global superstar.

652
00:38:42,070 --> 00:38:44,490
Everyone around the world
knew Michael Jordan.

653
00:39:00,672 --> 00:39:05,302
Once he got to the point
where it was "Be like Mike"...

654
00:39:07,846 --> 00:39:09,723
that changed everything for him.

655
00:39:10,557 --> 00:39:12,017
There's pressure to be like Mike.

656
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:16,021
If you're gonna be like him, you've gotta
be clean, you've gotta be Teflon.

657
00:39:16,104 --> 00:39:19,650
You've gotta be completely spotless
as a person,

658
00:39:19,733 --> 00:39:21,151
and no human being is like that.

659
00:39:28,492 --> 00:39:32,871
Any African-American in this society

660
00:39:32,955 --> 00:39:35,165
that sees significant success

661
00:39:36,458 --> 00:39:38,794
has an added burden.

662
00:39:38,877 --> 00:39:42,339
And a lot of times,
America's very quick to embrace

663
00:39:42,422 --> 00:39:46,552
a Michael Jordan or an Oprah Winfrey
or a Barack Obama, uh...

664
00:39:47,344 --> 00:39:52,599
so long as it's understood
that you don't get too controversial

665
00:39:52,683 --> 00:39:55,686
around broader issues of social justice.

666
00:39:55,769 --> 00:39:57,938
Part of the reason
he remained popular is that

667
00:39:58,021 --> 00:40:00,107
he never did anything to piss anybody off.

668
00:40:00,816 --> 00:40:04,152
Probably the most controversial thing
Jordan said in his career

669
00:40:04,236 --> 00:40:07,364
was when Harvey Gantt
was running for Senate

670
00:40:07,447 --> 00:40:10,158
to be the first African-American
from North Carolina

671
00:40:10,242 --> 00:40:12,494
to serve in the US Senate.

672
00:40:12,578 --> 00:40:15,914
Michael would not come out
and endorse or support Gantt

673
00:40:15,998 --> 00:40:19,918
and, uh, was quoted as saying,
"Republicans buy sneakers, too."

674
00:40:21,545 --> 00:40:24,145
Democrats in North Carolina
have nominated Harvey Gantt

675
00:40:24,214 --> 00:40:25,757
as their candidate for the Senate.

676
00:40:25,841 --> 00:40:27,968
If he defeats incumbent Jesse Helms,

677
00:40:28,051 --> 00:40:30,596
Gantt would become
the state's first black senator.

678
00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:34,850
1990 North Carolina Senate race.

679
00:40:34,933 --> 00:40:37,853
You have the infamous Jesse Helms

680
00:40:37,936 --> 00:40:40,856
and an African-American
by the name of Harvey Gantt.

681
00:40:41,690 --> 00:40:43,609
The stakes are really high.

682
00:40:43,692 --> 00:40:47,195
Jesse Helms was a reprehensible figure

683
00:40:47,279 --> 00:40:49,990
in terms of his racism
and conservative politics.

684
00:40:50,073 --> 00:40:52,034
Nothing cool about Jesse Helms.

685
00:40:52,117 --> 00:40:54,745
Jesse Helms can take
full credit or blame

686
00:40:54,828 --> 00:40:57,623
for killing a new National
African-American Museum.

687
00:40:58,206 --> 00:41:00,959
Helms also stood against
the Martin Luther King holiday.

688
00:41:01,043 --> 00:41:04,087
I'm not saying to you that
we wouldn't have segregated schools,

689
00:41:04,171 --> 00:41:06,340
or largely segregated schools,

690
00:41:06,423 --> 00:41:10,469
under a Freedom of Choice plan,
such as I've suggested,

691
00:41:10,552 --> 00:41:14,681
but I will say to you that
that would be the choice.

692
00:41:14,765 --> 00:41:20,604
Michael refuses to do a commercial
to support Harvey Gantt

693
00:41:20,687 --> 00:41:24,900
and the statement that emerges,
"Republicans buy Nikes, too,"

694
00:41:24,983 --> 00:41:27,361
sounds as though Michael is saying,

695
00:41:27,444 --> 00:41:32,783
"My personal wealth
is more important than my politics

696
00:41:32,866 --> 00:41:34,743
as it pertains to the issue of race."

697
00:41:34,826 --> 00:41:36,787
I don't think that statement
needs to be corrected

698
00:41:36,870 --> 00:41:42,834
because I said it in jest on a bus
with Horace Grant and Scottie Pippen

699
00:41:42,918 --> 00:41:45,253
and it was thrown off the cuff.

700
00:41:45,837 --> 00:41:48,799
My mother asked me to do
a PSA for Harvey Gantt.

701
00:41:48,882 --> 00:41:52,427
And I said, "Look, Mom, I'm not speaking
out of pocket about someone I don't know,

702
00:41:52,511 --> 00:41:56,890
but I will send a contribution
to support him," which is what I did.

703
00:41:56,973 --> 00:42:00,769
Conservative incumbent
Jesse Helms won a fourth term,

704
00:42:00,852 --> 00:42:03,605
defeating liberal black Harvey Gantt.

705
00:42:03,689 --> 00:42:06,775
There is no joy
in Mudville tonight.

706
00:42:09,569 --> 00:42:11,249
Gantt was not bitter in defeat,

707
00:42:11,321 --> 00:42:15,325
but this contest proves that race is still
a powerful issue in American politics.

708
00:42:15,409 --> 00:42:16,743
Harvey! Harvey!

709
00:42:16,827 --> 00:42:20,831
Michael did lose some credibility
with an African-American audience

710
00:42:20,914 --> 00:42:25,293
and people were disappointed because
he did not come out and support Gantt.

711
00:42:25,377 --> 00:42:28,922
Everybody in the world
respects Muhammad Ali.

712
00:42:29,005 --> 00:42:31,717
You know why?
Because he stood for something.

713
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:36,430
He stood for something
even if it meant sacrificing a payday.

714
00:42:36,513 --> 00:42:38,140
We respect that.

715
00:42:38,223 --> 00:42:42,144
Ultimately, Michael Jordan
may be forgotten.

716
00:42:42,227 --> 00:42:43,979
Muhammad Ali won't be forgotten.

717
00:42:45,814 --> 00:42:50,152
I do commend Muhammad Ali
for standing up for what he believed in,

718
00:42:51,194 --> 00:42:53,572
but I never thought of myself
as an activist.

719
00:42:53,655 --> 00:42:55,866
I thought of myself
as a basketball player.

720
00:42:57,492 --> 00:43:02,873
I wasn't a politician when I was playing
my sport. I was focused on my craft.

721
00:43:02,956 --> 00:43:04,416
Was that selfish? Probably.

722
00:43:04,499 --> 00:43:07,586
But that was my energy,
that's where my energy was.

723
00:43:07,669 --> 00:43:10,005
I'll be honest that when...

724
00:43:10,756 --> 00:43:15,635
it was reported that Michael said,
"Republicans buy sneakers, too..."

725
00:43:16,303 --> 00:43:17,345
Uh...

726
00:43:18,013 --> 00:43:20,974
For somebody who was, at that time,

727
00:43:21,057 --> 00:43:25,020
preparing for a career in civil rights law
and in public life

728
00:43:25,103 --> 00:43:27,606
and knowing what Jesse Helms stood for,

729
00:43:28,273 --> 00:43:32,319
you would've wanted to see
Michael push harder on that.

730
00:43:33,487 --> 00:43:34,654
On the other hand,

731
00:43:35,447 --> 00:43:41,119
he was still trying to figure out,
"How am I... managing this image

732
00:43:41,787 --> 00:43:44,873
that has been created around me, um,

733
00:43:44,956 --> 00:43:46,541
and how do I live up to it?"

734
00:43:47,167 --> 00:43:50,295
It's never gonna be enough for everybody.
I know that, I realize that,

735
00:43:50,378 --> 00:43:52,214
'cause everybody has a preconceived idea

736
00:43:52,297 --> 00:43:55,383
in terms of what they think I should do
or what I shouldn't do.

737
00:43:57,093 --> 00:44:00,639
The way that I go about my life
is I set examples.

738
00:44:01,681 --> 00:44:05,852
And if it inspires you, great.
You know, I will continue to do that.

739
00:44:05,936 --> 00:44:10,106
If it doesn't, then maybe I'm not
the person that you should be following.

740
00:44:23,328 --> 00:44:28,166
In '97 and '98, the ticket
requests went through the roof

741
00:44:28,250 --> 00:44:32,337
because there was a question mark,
"Did Michael wanna play or retire?"

742
00:44:34,089 --> 00:44:38,718
That year, we put our tickets on sale
on a Saturday morning, at ten o'clock.

743
00:44:38,802 --> 00:44:41,596
And people lined up
at the Chicago Stadium.

744
00:44:42,556 --> 00:44:45,809
By noon, the entire season was sold out,

745
00:44:46,351 --> 00:44:51,106
but then, every request was a battle
for the rest of the season.

746
00:44:51,189 --> 00:44:57,279
Michael, on most nights, would need
anywhere from 12 to 20 tickets.

747
00:44:57,362 --> 00:44:59,406
Other players would want some.

748
00:44:59,489 --> 00:45:02,701
It was funny, too, because at some point,
I had to limit the players.

749
00:45:02,784 --> 00:45:05,495
We didn't have unlimited tickets
in those days.

750
00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:12,043
Does it matter where they are, man?
Or you want 'em just in the building?

751
00:45:12,127 --> 00:45:13,887
They could be in the locker room
next to God.

752
00:45:15,922 --> 00:45:16,923
Bam.

753
00:45:19,426 --> 00:45:21,136
- Next to who?
- God.

754
00:45:21,678 --> 00:45:24,514
You just got one from him.

755
00:45:25,348 --> 00:45:26,348
Just kidding.

756
00:45:26,933 --> 00:45:29,519
No, he ain't.
No, he ain't, dude. No, he ain't.

757
00:45:29,603 --> 00:45:30,729
Hang on, that's a lie.

758
00:45:30,812 --> 00:45:32,981
- Do not take that off the tape either.
- You better.

759
00:45:33,064 --> 00:45:34,524
- He's not kidding.
- Shit!

760
00:45:34,608 --> 00:45:35,650
Lord, I am with you.

761
00:45:36,318 --> 00:45:37,944
- I was just kidding.
- He's not kidding.

762
00:45:38,028 --> 00:45:40,155
- Don't edit that off.
- Get your ass on outta here.

763
00:45:40,238 --> 00:45:41,781
I gave you a ticket, get the hell out.

764
00:45:41,865 --> 00:45:44,951
Thank you. Make sure y'all don't
edit that off. He ain't kidding.

765
00:45:45,035 --> 00:45:47,829
The road was sometimes
more challenging than at home

766
00:45:47,913 --> 00:45:50,999
because you were dealing
in other people's arenas.

767
00:45:51,082 --> 00:45:53,877
When he played down at Atlanta,
the Bulls played there,

768
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,630
they had more people
than you'd have for a football game

769
00:45:56,713 --> 00:45:58,381
in the Atlanta Dome, just to see Michael.

770
00:46:11,770 --> 00:46:16,316
NBA record 62,046 fans
packed into the Georgia Dome

771
00:46:16,399 --> 00:46:20,153
to see what may have been
Michael Jordan's final game in Atlanta.

772
00:46:20,236 --> 00:46:21,947
Right now, if we had another 15,000 seats,

773
00:46:22,030 --> 00:46:23,990
I believe we could still
sell them for this game.

774
00:46:24,074 --> 00:46:25,617
It's the hottest thing I've ever seen.

775
00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:27,786
All I know is when the tickets
came in this morning,

776
00:46:27,869 --> 00:46:30,372
my wife ran downstairs
and she was crying, she was so happy.

777
00:46:30,455 --> 00:46:31,455
So, I'm the hero.

778
00:46:32,832 --> 00:46:34,417
Oh!

779
00:46:34,501 --> 00:46:38,004
There's nothing you can do about that.
See that's Michael Jordan at his best.

780
00:46:38,088 --> 00:46:42,842
Everywhere you went,
people wanted tickets,

781
00:46:42,926 --> 00:46:44,886
but it became overwhelming.

782
00:46:44,970 --> 00:46:47,305
We gonna see Michael Jordan!

783
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,101
This is what you call a Pope
and Jesus phenomenon.

784
00:47:08,243 --> 00:47:10,870
We saved a lot of money

785
00:47:10,954 --> 00:47:13,957
and we traveled 24 hours
to see Chicago Bulls.

786
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,600
It's a dream!

787
00:47:15,667 --> 00:47:17,502
Tonight's game is sold out.

788
00:47:17,585 --> 00:47:21,006
Do not purchase tickets
from scalpers on Seventh Avenue.

789
00:47:21,089 --> 00:47:22,298
They are counterfeit.

790
00:47:22,382 --> 00:47:25,593
And everybody in the world
begged me for tickets.

791
00:47:25,677 --> 00:47:29,514
Movie stars would come in
and celebrities would come in.

792
00:47:29,597 --> 00:47:31,057
You got to know people.

793
00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:32,809
I can beg. I'm a beggar.

794
00:47:32,892 --> 00:47:34,853
If there's tickets to be gotten,
I will find 'em.

795
00:47:44,529 --> 00:47:47,699
People expect him to still put on a show
and he does that every night.

796
00:47:47,782 --> 00:47:51,077
Hey, look, I wanna be like Mike also.

797
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:54,748
What up, fighter?

798
00:47:57,500 --> 00:47:58,960
Michael doesn't pass me the ball.

799
00:47:59,044 --> 00:48:01,588
- You heard it here first.
- He doesn't pass me the ball at all.

800
00:48:01,671 --> 00:48:03,840
I want Michael to play
as long as he wants.

801
00:48:03,923 --> 00:48:05,175
He's at the top of his game.

802
00:48:05,258 --> 00:48:08,094
It's a shame what Krause and Reinsdorf
are doing. I don't understand.

803
00:48:08,178 --> 00:48:10,513
The similarity between
the Bulls and Seinfeld?

804
00:48:11,473 --> 00:48:13,600
The show of the '90s,
the team of the '90s,

805
00:48:13,683 --> 00:48:17,353
and I'm trying to make quitting
the move of the '90s.

806
00:48:17,937 --> 00:48:19,064
Let the new people in.

807
00:48:20,607 --> 00:48:22,525
- Hey, partner. How you doing?
- How you doing?

808
00:48:22,609 --> 00:48:24,736
Haven't seen you since the photo shit.

809
00:48:24,819 --> 00:48:27,030
These are a couple
of your good fans right here.

810
00:48:27,113 --> 00:48:29,592
- Every day we come in to watch the game...
- Nice to meet you.

811
00:48:29,616 --> 00:48:31,093
they're watching your show.

812
00:48:31,117 --> 00:48:33,578
Sooner or later,
you gotta get tired of Seinfeld.

813
00:48:33,661 --> 00:48:34,913
Let's go, guys.

814
00:48:36,081 --> 00:48:37,916
- Hi, Phil.
- How are you doing?

815
00:48:37,999 --> 00:48:39,125
All right, have a good game.

816
00:48:39,209 --> 00:48:41,461
- Principal's kicking you out.
- Good to see you.

817
00:48:41,544 --> 00:48:42,879
I'll see you, Jerry.

818
00:48:44,172 --> 00:48:45,006
All right...

819
00:48:45,090 --> 00:48:48,510
This is not gonna work, by the way.
I would get that out of there.

820
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,079
- How you doing?
- All right.

821
00:48:51,137 --> 00:48:52,055
Have a good game.

822
00:48:52,138 --> 00:48:55,809
When you get to the top,
it's great to be admired and respected.

823
00:48:55,892 --> 00:48:58,103
I'm not saying that wasn't fun.

824
00:48:59,354 --> 00:49:01,314
But every time I would get by myself,

825
00:49:01,397 --> 00:49:04,776
I'd think about the end of the season
and the ultimate goal,

826
00:49:04,859 --> 00:49:06,820
holding up that championship trophy

827
00:49:06,903 --> 00:49:09,656
and being recognized
as the best team in the world.

828
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:12,951
It's something at the end
of this rainbow that I'm fighting for

829
00:49:13,034 --> 00:49:15,620
and I'm going to give
every little bit to get to it.

