1 00:00:18,818 --> 00:00:20,195 Here we go. Quiet! 2 00:00:21,029 --> 00:00:22,256 - Roll sound! - Rolling. 3 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:23,280 Two. 4 00:00:23,823 --> 00:00:26,493 It's funny, a lot of people say they'd like to be Michael Jordan 5 00:00:26,576 --> 00:00:27,911 for a day or for a week, 6 00:00:28,411 --> 00:00:32,540 but let them try to be Michael Jordan for a year, see if they like it. 7 00:00:33,416 --> 00:00:34,751 Let's get one more. 8 00:00:35,335 --> 00:00:36,615 - Rolling. - Two. 9 00:00:37,587 --> 00:00:40,632 It's funny, a lot of people told me they'd like to be Michael Jordan 10 00:00:40,715 --> 00:00:42,217 for a day or for a week, 11 00:00:42,300 --> 00:00:45,678 but I don't think you can see the true Michael Jordan for just a day. 12 00:00:48,848 --> 00:00:49,848 Rolling. 13 00:00:50,809 --> 00:00:51,893 Cameras. 14 00:00:53,061 --> 00:00:56,564 It's funny, a lot of people say they'd like to try to be Michael Jordan 15 00:00:56,648 --> 00:00:57,857 for a day or for a week, 16 00:00:57,941 --> 00:01:01,903 but I don't think they quite understand it's no fun. 17 00:01:02,904 --> 00:01:04,155 Good. Okay. 18 00:01:19,379 --> 00:01:21,965 All right, well, I just wanted to touch base... 19 00:01:26,636 --> 00:01:29,597 This is it. Lay back, watch TV all day. 20 00:01:31,182 --> 00:01:34,060 It was peaceful until you guys come up in here. 21 00:01:35,228 --> 00:01:37,564 I don't have to worry about anybody bothering me. 22 00:01:39,816 --> 00:01:42,861 I think what people don't realize 23 00:01:42,944 --> 00:01:47,782 is that from the moment Michael Jordan leaves his hotel room, 24 00:01:48,324 --> 00:01:49,576 the spotlight is on him. 25 00:01:59,127 --> 00:02:02,171 Everybody in the world wanted to see him, talk to him. 26 00:02:03,631 --> 00:02:06,301 They all wanted a piece of him in some way or another. 27 00:02:07,677 --> 00:02:11,222 He was under pressure to be "on" all the time with people. 28 00:02:11,306 --> 00:02:13,349 Could I get a picture with you and my son? 29 00:02:13,433 --> 00:02:14,851 Skipping nursery school, huh? 30 00:02:19,856 --> 00:02:21,524 Given his hectic schedule, 31 00:02:21,608 --> 00:02:25,486 before a game, he would sit down for five minutes, ten minutes, 32 00:02:25,570 --> 00:02:27,447 with a terminally ill child... 33 00:02:27,530 --> 00:02:29,657 - You ain't got a birthday, do you? - No. 34 00:02:29,741 --> 00:02:32,452 He made the kids feel like they knew Michael Jordan. 35 00:02:35,204 --> 00:02:37,832 On top of all that, he had to perform. 36 00:02:38,416 --> 00:02:42,337 Jordan! The double-clutch reverse layup. Michael Jordan! 37 00:02:42,420 --> 00:02:46,716 He knew that everybody, for every game, was there to see him. 38 00:02:49,928 --> 00:02:53,765 After the game, he has ten minutes in the locker room to cool off, 39 00:02:54,682 --> 00:02:56,893 and then a room full of media. 40 00:02:56,976 --> 00:02:58,787 How do you deal with all the attention? 41 00:02:58,811 --> 00:03:00,651 How will you entertain us tonight? 42 00:03:00,980 --> 00:03:02,982 Even when he's done with the interviews, 43 00:03:03,066 --> 00:03:06,194 you still had the hanger-on people that would come up to him. 44 00:03:06,277 --> 00:03:10,365 It was like a flock of bees around honey, trailing him down the hallway. 45 00:03:10,448 --> 00:03:13,868 Listen, everybody! Can we move this way, spread out a little? 46 00:03:13,952 --> 00:03:15,745 I swear he ain't gonna run away. 47 00:03:15,828 --> 00:03:19,874 Then you get back to the hotel, another large group of people. 48 00:03:26,965 --> 00:03:30,760 I wouldn't want to be like Mike. It's an impossible task. 49 00:03:33,388 --> 00:03:35,014 Yeah, this is not... 50 00:03:36,140 --> 00:03:38,393 one of those lifestyles that you envy, 51 00:03:38,476 --> 00:03:41,771 where you can't... You're confined to this room. 52 00:03:42,689 --> 00:03:45,984 I'm ready for getting out of this life. 53 00:03:46,067 --> 00:03:48,152 You know when you get to that point. 54 00:03:49,070 --> 00:03:53,324 I'm there. And with no reservations at all. I'm there. 55 00:03:56,744 --> 00:03:58,246 A spectacular move! 56 00:03:58,329 --> 00:03:59,914 The game's over! 57 00:03:59,998 --> 00:04:02,333 Chicago Stadium is going wild! 58 00:04:04,293 --> 00:04:06,796 First of all, there's no backstabbing going on here. 59 00:04:06,879 --> 00:04:07,755 It's time for me to move on. 60 00:04:07,839 --> 00:04:10,239 This will be Phil's last year as coach of the Bulls. 61 00:04:12,844 --> 00:04:15,406 - Are the expectations too high? - Where do we go from here? 62 00:04:15,430 --> 00:04:17,932 The only question: how long can it last? 63 00:04:35,950 --> 00:04:39,370 Wayne, Kovalev and Gretzky. And the... 64 00:04:39,454 --> 00:04:40,997 That's still not... 65 00:04:43,166 --> 00:04:44,917 Don't show the money. 66 00:04:45,001 --> 00:04:46,127 How much you want? 67 00:04:46,210 --> 00:04:47,295 Wait, I gotta learn. 68 00:04:47,378 --> 00:04:48,588 I need another quarter. 69 00:04:48,671 --> 00:04:50,339 You only need one. Shit. 70 00:04:51,257 --> 00:04:53,193 - That didn't look good. - Not that one. 71 00:04:53,217 --> 00:04:55,678 They get all the tries till they get one close. 72 00:04:55,762 --> 00:04:59,348 - I get three or two tries to beat 'em. - This is the last one. I mean it. 73 00:05:01,225 --> 00:05:04,228 - Oh, all right, how many tries? - I get three tries. 74 00:05:04,312 --> 00:05:06,939 That's too far. Two tries on that one, MJ. 75 00:05:07,023 --> 00:05:07,857 Two tries. 76 00:05:07,940 --> 00:05:10,127 - Look at how far that is. - Okay, Jerry Krause. 77 00:05:10,151 --> 00:05:12,070 Negotiate with somebody else. 78 00:05:14,947 --> 00:05:16,827 - Will you get out the way? - Come on! 79 00:05:20,411 --> 00:05:21,454 Nope. 80 00:05:22,455 --> 00:05:24,082 - That's in. - No. 81 00:05:24,165 --> 00:05:25,958 Nope! No! 82 00:05:27,543 --> 00:05:29,021 - Get our money! - No! 83 00:05:29,045 --> 00:05:31,547 - Get our money, Travis. - All right. 84 00:05:31,631 --> 00:05:34,217 Michael was competitive at everything, 85 00:05:34,300 --> 00:05:38,179 whether it was on the golf course or playing cards, whatever it was. 86 00:05:38,262 --> 00:05:41,265 I mean, his life was just one big competition. 87 00:05:42,475 --> 00:05:44,310 Scottie, Michael... 88 00:05:45,645 --> 00:05:46,646 Ron Harper. 89 00:05:47,230 --> 00:05:51,192 These guys would play cards in the back of the plane for major money. 90 00:05:52,026 --> 00:05:53,569 I'm talking thousands of dollars. 91 00:05:53,653 --> 00:05:56,572 This is my way of giving some of my money back. 92 00:05:56,656 --> 00:05:57,740 Does it hurt? 93 00:05:57,824 --> 00:06:02,245 And me, John Paxson, B.J. Armstrong, 94 00:06:02,328 --> 00:06:06,249 we would play blackjack in the front of the plane for a dollar a hand. 95 00:06:06,332 --> 00:06:09,001 He knows that we would never play with him in the back 96 00:06:09,085 --> 00:06:10,253 'cause it's too much money. 97 00:06:10,336 --> 00:06:12,922 But he would come to the front, "What are you guys doing? 98 00:06:13,005 --> 00:06:14,298 You mind if I play?" 99 00:06:14,799 --> 00:06:17,176 I remember John Paxson looking at him and going, 100 00:06:17,260 --> 00:06:19,971 "Why in the hell do you want to play with us? 101 00:06:20,054 --> 00:06:22,014 We're playing for a dollar a hand." 102 00:06:23,141 --> 00:06:27,186 I remember he looked at him, "Because I wanna say I got your money in my pocket." 103 00:06:28,563 --> 00:06:31,065 I'll give y'all four tries to beat my one toss. 104 00:06:31,149 --> 00:06:32,483 - One toss? - Yeah. 105 00:06:32,567 --> 00:06:33,609 - In four tries? - Yeah. 106 00:06:33,693 --> 00:06:34,819 - Yeah, I take it. - Okay. 107 00:06:34,902 --> 00:06:36,654 Put your money up first. Without seeing it. 108 00:06:36,737 --> 00:06:38,156 - How much? $20? - Yup. 109 00:06:41,742 --> 00:06:44,179 - You can beat that. - In four tries. Come back here. 110 00:06:51,752 --> 00:06:53,838 - Give him his... - Hey, Gus, CT. 111 00:06:55,756 --> 00:07:00,219 Hey, man, your stuff rolls. He's out here, it just rolls up there. 112 00:07:00,303 --> 00:07:02,430 Watch this roll right into my pocket. 113 00:07:03,514 --> 00:07:05,766 - I got good at this. - Y'all get out of here. 114 00:07:05,850 --> 00:07:07,727 Go protect the damn United Center. 115 00:07:08,269 --> 00:07:11,814 Security! Come get security outta here! 116 00:07:12,398 --> 00:07:13,398 Arrest you. 117 00:07:18,863 --> 00:07:21,115 Hey, Mike. Hey, Scottie. 118 00:07:22,366 --> 00:07:24,202 - Okay, my brother. - This guy's funny. 119 00:07:24,285 --> 00:07:27,496 - I'm sure you have full season tickets. - You guys know the money man here? 120 00:07:27,580 --> 00:07:28,998 Yeah, we know him. 121 00:07:29,665 --> 00:07:31,083 We knew him well. 122 00:07:33,044 --> 00:07:35,880 We used to see him in the playoffs. We don't know about this year. 123 00:07:38,883 --> 00:07:41,361 Welcome to another edition of Bulls basketball. 124 00:07:41,385 --> 00:07:44,263 The Bulls remain just one game away 125 00:07:44,347 --> 00:07:48,100 from securing home-floor advantage in the Eastern Conference playoffs. 126 00:07:48,184 --> 00:07:50,102 They could do it with a win tonight. 127 00:07:51,103 --> 00:07:53,814 Pippen gets the screen from Wennington... 128 00:07:53,898 --> 00:07:56,567 Rodman goes backdoor, Jordan at the baseline. 129 00:07:57,235 --> 00:08:00,571 Boy, Michael versus Orlando is a mismatch so far tonight. 130 00:08:01,447 --> 00:08:04,116 Jordan ahead of Pippen. And the jam! 131 00:08:04,700 --> 00:08:08,955 Bo Outlaw back quickly. Kerr tees up a three! Ring it up! 132 00:08:09,622 --> 00:08:12,458 Thirty-seven for Jordan. I think that's the dagger. 133 00:08:12,541 --> 00:08:15,127 And this one is history. 134 00:08:16,212 --> 00:08:20,883 Chicago Bulls, with an 87-78 victory over the Orlando Magic, 135 00:08:20,967 --> 00:08:23,552 win their 60th game of the season. 136 00:08:38,317 --> 00:08:39,318 Sixty wins. 137 00:08:45,908 --> 00:08:47,285 After a hard day, 138 00:08:48,869 --> 00:08:50,705 I would take grape Gatorade, but... 139 00:08:52,581 --> 00:08:53,581 I don't think so. 140 00:08:53,624 --> 00:08:56,043 That's all we be thinking about in the fourth quarter. 141 00:08:56,127 --> 00:08:58,004 - Icy, icy beer. - Cold beer. 142 00:09:00,423 --> 00:09:01,716 I don't know why y'all filming. 143 00:09:01,799 --> 00:09:04,051 We don't want y'all filming us drinking no beer. 144 00:09:04,844 --> 00:09:06,804 I don't care what you film. 145 00:09:08,097 --> 00:09:12,685 Hey, if they go back... go back ten years ago, 146 00:09:12,768 --> 00:09:15,021 you'd see half the brothers drinking a case. 147 00:09:15,604 --> 00:09:16,981 At halftime! 148 00:09:17,064 --> 00:09:18,524 When I first joined the team, 149 00:09:18,607 --> 00:09:21,068 they was drinking beers at half and smoking cigarettes. 150 00:09:21,152 --> 00:09:22,361 And you know what? 151 00:09:23,154 --> 00:09:26,407 Shit, they was getting the cigarettes from the coaches. 152 00:09:29,452 --> 00:09:31,078 Yo, Stan, can I borrow a cigarette? 153 00:09:31,162 --> 00:09:32,162 Motherfucker... 154 00:09:32,204 --> 00:09:34,764 - Your drinking problem... - Don't tell 'em that. 155 00:09:34,832 --> 00:09:36,977 - I gotta do the press. - Have to do it? 156 00:09:37,001 --> 00:09:38,711 - I'm going out the other way. - All right. 157 00:09:40,338 --> 00:09:41,338 How you doing? 158 00:09:41,714 --> 00:09:43,049 Man, you tripping? 159 00:09:44,592 --> 00:09:46,512 So you coming back next year, Michael? 160 00:10:03,402 --> 00:10:07,907 Ladies and gentlemen, your world champion Chicago Bulls! 161 00:10:09,367 --> 00:10:10,618 Once again, I wanna say thanks. 162 00:10:10,701 --> 00:10:13,120 It's been eight years, going into my ninth year. 163 00:10:13,204 --> 00:10:16,957 We got two championships, and hopefully we got a lot left. 164 00:10:17,041 --> 00:10:20,044 Hopefully we can bring more championships to Chicago. Thanks! 165 00:10:27,385 --> 00:10:31,764 You don't have to be a sports fan to know that this man is beyond human. 166 00:10:32,431 --> 00:10:36,852 At age 30, Jordan has led the Chicago Bulls to NBA championships, 167 00:10:36,936 --> 00:10:40,773 the Dream Team to an Olympic gold medal, and most importantly, 168 00:10:40,856 --> 00:10:44,527 he's given America, and the world, a sorely needed hero. 169 00:10:44,902 --> 00:10:47,279 A Jordan sighting sparks a frenzy. 170 00:10:47,363 --> 00:10:49,532 - His touch, a burst of tears. - You're good. 171 00:10:49,615 --> 00:10:53,411 And being Mike means being the most popular human on the planet. 172 00:10:53,953 --> 00:10:56,831 Michael Jordan had become such a huge 173 00:10:56,914 --> 00:11:00,209 cultural figure in the early '90s. 174 00:11:00,751 --> 00:11:03,087 He was so widely celebrated, 175 00:11:04,338 --> 00:11:06,674 inevitably there's going to be someone 176 00:11:06,757 --> 00:11:09,510 who's going to start trying to find some dirt. 177 00:11:11,137 --> 00:11:13,764 I guess one of the things that started problems 178 00:11:14,390 --> 00:11:16,684 was Sam Smith's book, Jordan Rules. 179 00:11:18,519 --> 00:11:22,314 I'd been an investigative reporter when I started my journalism career. 180 00:11:22,398 --> 00:11:24,692 I wasn't a typical sports reporter coming in. 181 00:11:24,775 --> 00:11:27,570 I was interested in what happened behind the scenes. 182 00:11:27,653 --> 00:11:31,323 Every time I look up, you've been on TV. You must be carrying one with you now. 183 00:11:31,407 --> 00:11:34,034 'Cause everybody always said, "Pull the curtain back. 184 00:11:34,618 --> 00:11:36,537 What really goes on in the locker room?" 185 00:11:37,163 --> 00:11:40,083 When you do books like that, you gotta have controversial things, 186 00:11:40,124 --> 00:11:45,463 you gotta have things that are, you know, people would not suspect or know. 187 00:11:45,546 --> 00:11:49,216 The Sun-Times reports the book details conflicts within the team. 188 00:11:50,301 --> 00:11:52,511 The book outlines alleged turmoil on the club 189 00:11:52,595 --> 00:11:54,472 during its run for the title last season. 190 00:11:54,555 --> 00:11:57,975 It alleges Jordan was kind of a tough guy with some of his teammates. 191 00:11:58,058 --> 00:12:00,519 Everybody got tired of seeing the McDonald's and the Cokes 192 00:12:00,603 --> 00:12:01,645 and all the other stuff. 193 00:12:01,729 --> 00:12:06,025 They really wanted to see something other than something positive. 194 00:12:06,650 --> 00:12:09,737 I was shocked when it exploded like it did. 195 00:12:10,946 --> 00:12:15,868 But the book is popular because it made it public that Michael Jordan is not perfect. 196 00:12:15,951 --> 00:12:17,161 Not everybody loves him. 197 00:12:17,244 --> 00:12:19,371 He wasn't particularly beloved by his teammates. 198 00:12:19,955 --> 00:12:21,790 Michael told teammates 199 00:12:21,874 --> 00:12:24,752 not to pass the ball to a certain player during crunch time. 200 00:12:24,835 --> 00:12:27,046 Threatening the others, saying, if they did it, 201 00:12:27,129 --> 00:12:29,590 they would never get the ball from him again. 202 00:12:29,673 --> 00:12:33,552 Jordan also allegedly punched Will Perdue during a practice session. 203 00:12:34,053 --> 00:12:36,430 Everybody loved Michael around the world. 204 00:12:37,515 --> 00:12:39,725 But after Sam Smith's book, Jordan Rules, 205 00:12:40,267 --> 00:12:44,438 there was a certain backlash and some of the brightness had come off. 206 00:12:47,024 --> 00:12:50,152 People saw a side that we didn't see before. 207 00:12:50,778 --> 00:12:53,906 Concerning team GM Jerry Krause, Jordan says, 208 00:12:53,989 --> 00:12:57,618 "This thing isn't over. I'm going to get that guy fired." 209 00:12:57,701 --> 00:12:59,745 Jerry invited me to come to his room, 210 00:12:59,828 --> 00:13:05,167 and he had earmarked about 25 different quotations in the book. 211 00:13:05,751 --> 00:13:08,504 He wanted me to sit and listen to them while he read them. 212 00:13:09,505 --> 00:13:14,134 And that started with, "Who do you think could do this? Were you part of this?" 213 00:13:14,843 --> 00:13:17,513 While the early reports have brought a flurry of denials, 214 00:13:17,596 --> 00:13:20,015 players giving out sensitive information to the press 215 00:13:20,099 --> 00:13:23,394 is one surefire way to cause a division within the team. 216 00:13:23,477 --> 00:13:26,105 I didn't contribute to that. That was Horace. 217 00:13:27,314 --> 00:13:30,401 He was telling everything that was happening within the group. 218 00:13:32,027 --> 00:13:34,613 As we started winning championships, 219 00:13:35,364 --> 00:13:38,826 and everybody talked about Michael, and talked about "everybody else," 220 00:13:39,577 --> 00:13:43,205 I mean, that really pissed off Horace. 221 00:13:44,790 --> 00:13:48,127 He felt slighted. He was in Michael's shadow. 222 00:13:49,628 --> 00:13:54,008 No. Not one thing have I ever divulged to Sam Smith 223 00:13:54,550 --> 00:13:58,429 about my relationship with my former teammates. 224 00:13:59,221 --> 00:14:02,641 A lot of people, because Sam and I have a great relationship, 225 00:14:02,725 --> 00:14:07,104 used me as a scapegoat, and... so be it. 226 00:14:07,187 --> 00:14:08,939 It couldn't have just been Horace. 227 00:14:09,023 --> 00:14:11,275 Had to be coming from a number of different places. 228 00:14:11,358 --> 00:14:13,902 It could've been the coaches, 229 00:14:13,986 --> 00:14:17,239 it could've been the owners, it could've been management. 230 00:14:18,157 --> 00:14:20,326 We have a star for five or six years, 231 00:14:20,409 --> 00:14:22,911 and then, pretty soon, people start chipping away 232 00:14:22,995 --> 00:14:25,247 at the pedestal of that star or that hero 233 00:14:25,331 --> 00:14:26,749 and try to knock him off the block. 234 00:14:27,583 --> 00:14:30,628 If I'm going to be knocked off this pedestal, 235 00:14:30,711 --> 00:14:33,380 I'm going to make sure I do something to be knocked off. 236 00:14:33,464 --> 00:14:36,675 I'm not going to let someone else knock me off for no apparent reason 237 00:14:36,759 --> 00:14:38,594 or comments that I didn't say. 238 00:14:39,762 --> 00:14:41,562 While some of Michael Jordan's teammates 239 00:14:41,639 --> 00:14:43,515 view the book as "a bunch of bull," 240 00:14:44,099 --> 00:14:48,479 Smith says it may have a positive effect down the road on the world champions. 241 00:14:49,146 --> 00:14:51,148 I think Phil will use this book to say, 242 00:14:51,231 --> 00:14:55,402 "Here, this is out there. They're trying to divide us apart." 243 00:14:55,486 --> 00:14:57,571 In a lot of ways, it'll bring the team together. 244 00:14:59,031 --> 00:15:01,825 I was under siege when the book came out. Everyone turned on me, 245 00:15:01,909 --> 00:15:04,036 to the point where I was getting a lot of threats 246 00:15:04,119 --> 00:15:07,456 and the newspaper had me stay home for a week, told me not to come. 247 00:15:09,917 --> 00:15:12,795 The Jordan Rules took a big toll on him off the court. 248 00:15:14,213 --> 00:15:18,050 But on the court, he was still the most dominant figure in the game 249 00:15:18,133 --> 00:15:19,635 on the most dominant team. 250 00:15:28,143 --> 00:15:30,437 And Horace with the slam! 251 00:15:30,521 --> 00:15:32,564 Jordan intercepts. What a play! 252 00:15:32,648 --> 00:15:33,982 They're tearing them apart. 253 00:15:34,066 --> 00:15:36,694 Fourteen. Jordan past Petrovic. 254 00:15:45,452 --> 00:15:48,288 Michael blocked him... denied by Horace... 255 00:15:48,372 --> 00:15:51,500 three on two. To Jordan. And a foul... 256 00:15:51,583 --> 00:15:53,377 Oh, he scored! Yes! 257 00:15:57,965 --> 00:16:00,926 Michael in control, feeds Horace Grant. 258 00:16:01,593 --> 00:16:03,053 Michael on the line. 259 00:16:09,727 --> 00:16:14,106 No fouling here. From mid-court, a 50-footer to go... 260 00:16:14,189 --> 00:16:15,357 Michael Jordan! 261 00:16:18,152 --> 00:16:20,028 A lot of the people in... 262 00:16:20,904 --> 00:16:24,658 that era that you would consider Michael's peers had won two in a row. 263 00:16:25,242 --> 00:16:28,662 Isiah won two straight. Magic had won two straight. 264 00:16:28,746 --> 00:16:31,165 But none of them won three in a row. 265 00:16:31,248 --> 00:16:34,376 A third championship was the separator. 266 00:16:34,460 --> 00:16:36,503 You win three, you're on Mount Rushmore. 267 00:16:37,379 --> 00:16:40,507 So, for that team, it was all about winning a third straight. 268 00:16:41,091 --> 00:16:42,885 Who was their biggest obstacle? 269 00:16:43,427 --> 00:16:47,556 Without question, it was this incredibly... tough, 270 00:16:48,182 --> 00:16:51,518 motivated and well-coached Knicks team. 271 00:16:54,146 --> 00:16:57,524 In the early '90s, the Knicks replaced the Bad Boy Pistons 272 00:16:57,608 --> 00:16:59,902 as the team that Chicagoans hated the most. 273 00:16:59,985 --> 00:17:03,238 It was very intense 'cause I know how bad they wanted to beat us. 274 00:17:05,324 --> 00:17:07,242 Both clubs going at each other. 275 00:17:07,326 --> 00:17:10,454 Michael Jordan and Xavier McDaniel having words. 276 00:17:10,537 --> 00:17:15,083 Double technicals were called on McDaniel and Jordan. 277 00:17:16,502 --> 00:17:20,672 They were on the come up. They were trying to be... 278 00:17:21,507 --> 00:17:26,303 the next Chicago Bulls as we were to the Detroit Pistons. 279 00:17:27,679 --> 00:17:30,390 Mentally, they were a hard-working team, 280 00:17:30,474 --> 00:17:35,521 but I firmly believe that... when we were playing at our best 281 00:17:35,604 --> 00:17:38,023 and they're playing at their best, we're a better team. 282 00:17:39,107 --> 00:17:42,653 Patrick Ewing was the biggest focus for us, offensively. 283 00:17:43,487 --> 00:17:44,822 We hated each other. 284 00:17:46,323 --> 00:17:47,825 It was extremely physical. 285 00:17:49,785 --> 00:17:52,830 It wasn't really a foul till you drew blood. 286 00:17:53,956 --> 00:17:55,624 When I was coaching the Knicks, 287 00:17:55,707 --> 00:17:58,210 I told the team, "You can't let him dunk on you!" 288 00:17:59,920 --> 00:18:00,921 Hello! 289 00:18:04,258 --> 00:18:05,759 You gotta knock him down. 290 00:18:05,843 --> 00:18:09,263 If we don't meet him at the rim, he's gonna embarrass you. 291 00:18:09,346 --> 00:18:12,766 ball that he followed up. Jordan with the recovery. Jordan! 292 00:18:16,770 --> 00:18:19,314 Only way we can beat this guy, 293 00:18:19,398 --> 00:18:20,566 we had to hit him, 294 00:18:20,649 --> 00:18:23,068 let him know that you just can't fly to the rim. 295 00:18:28,949 --> 00:18:30,909 The battle lines were drawn between them. 296 00:18:31,285 --> 00:18:36,039 And then, 1993 playoffs, they're playing the Knicks in the Conference Finals. 297 00:18:38,834 --> 00:18:40,754 It has come down to this: game one 298 00:18:40,836 --> 00:18:45,507 of the eagerly anticipated best-of-seven Eastern Conference Final. 299 00:18:45,591 --> 00:18:47,634 Patrick Ewing and his New York Knicks 300 00:18:47,718 --> 00:18:50,512 facing Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls. 301 00:18:51,638 --> 00:18:55,475 We got tested in that playoffs by the Knicks. 302 00:18:57,686 --> 00:19:02,107 The Knicks had that same defense that we'd just had to overcome versus Detroit. 303 00:19:02,691 --> 00:19:04,026 They were gonna be physical, 304 00:19:04,109 --> 00:19:06,653 they were gonna come up body-to-body all the time. 305 00:19:06,737 --> 00:19:09,197 Things beginning to get a bit rough. 306 00:19:09,281 --> 00:19:10,699 That was a tremendous battle. 307 00:19:19,541 --> 00:19:22,753 The basket counts and the foul! 308 00:19:25,964 --> 00:19:30,093 So the Knicks defeat the Bulls in game one of this best-of-seven. 309 00:19:31,803 --> 00:19:34,222 Jordan knows that all eyes are on him tonight 310 00:19:34,306 --> 00:19:37,976 as the Bulls go for the needed split in New York in the Eastern Conference Finals. 311 00:19:38,060 --> 00:19:40,562 After shooting 3-for-13 in the second half Sunday, 312 00:19:40,646 --> 00:19:42,648 Jordan needs to light it up in game two. 313 00:19:45,025 --> 00:19:46,585 And Jordan... Just ran... 314 00:19:46,610 --> 00:19:48,195 He is walloped by Anthony! 315 00:19:48,278 --> 00:19:50,238 Now the Bulls are very upset. 316 00:19:50,822 --> 00:19:52,574 In the second game in the series, 317 00:19:52,658 --> 00:19:55,535 they were stepping things up, really physical. 318 00:19:56,286 --> 00:19:57,663 Ewing! And... 319 00:19:58,622 --> 00:20:00,582 Look out! Cartwright submarines. 320 00:20:00,666 --> 00:20:02,542 Starks! Yes! 321 00:20:03,961 --> 00:20:08,966 What a move by Starks, who was able to sky to the basket! 322 00:20:14,137 --> 00:20:16,932 In sports, the Chicago Bulls are down two games to none 323 00:20:17,015 --> 00:20:19,101 in their playoff series with the New York Knicks. 324 00:20:19,184 --> 00:20:23,689 Some are suggesting that superstar Michael Jordan may have dropped the ball. 325 00:20:23,772 --> 00:20:26,316 In the last quarter against the Knicks Tuesday night, 326 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,151 Michael Jordan looked tired. 327 00:20:28,235 --> 00:20:32,114 Was he worn down by the Knicks' defense in a grueling physical game 328 00:20:32,197 --> 00:20:33,532 or was he worn down 329 00:20:33,615 --> 00:20:37,661 by a visit to this Atlantic City hotel on the eve of the game? 330 00:20:37,744 --> 00:20:39,705 The New York Times said today 331 00:20:39,788 --> 00:20:43,875 Jordan was seen in the hotel's casino as late as 2:30 in the morning. 332 00:20:44,501 --> 00:20:46,586 My father said, "Let's get away from New York City. 333 00:20:47,129 --> 00:20:49,131 Let's you and I go to Atlantic City." 334 00:20:49,214 --> 00:20:53,593 We got a limo, we went and gambled for a couple of hours. We came back. 335 00:20:54,553 --> 00:20:58,598 Everybody went totally ballistic. "Hey, he was in a casino last night." 336 00:20:59,182 --> 00:21:01,810 I wasn't late. We got home by 12:30, one o'clock. 337 00:21:01,893 --> 00:21:05,063 The reason I was there was more or less to get away from New York, 338 00:21:05,147 --> 00:21:09,067 hear about all the losing, you know, the game situation. 339 00:21:09,151 --> 00:21:11,111 I went out to get my mind away from basketball. 340 00:21:11,194 --> 00:21:12,446 I couldn't go play golf, 341 00:21:12,529 --> 00:21:14,781 so I rode up there with my family and friends. 342 00:21:14,865 --> 00:21:17,325 Jordan's hours triggered harsh headlines 343 00:21:17,409 --> 00:21:19,411 and dominated the sports talk shows. 344 00:21:19,494 --> 00:21:22,205 What it shows me is a lack of commitment 345 00:21:22,289 --> 00:21:25,208 to what is the goal right now, and that is a third championship. 346 00:21:25,292 --> 00:21:30,255 Jordan had violated no team rules, no league rules, no state laws. 347 00:21:30,338 --> 00:21:33,842 All he violated were people's expectations. 348 00:21:35,093 --> 00:21:38,221 I addressed the Atlantic City thing, and he was like, 349 00:21:38,764 --> 00:21:42,017 "Going down to Atlantic City in the afternoon and getting back at midnight? 350 00:21:42,100 --> 00:21:44,436 That's not gonna affect my basketball. 351 00:21:44,519 --> 00:21:46,605 It's gonna take my mind away 352 00:21:47,189 --> 00:21:49,816 from this pressure we have building up in the playoffs." 353 00:21:50,567 --> 00:21:53,111 Why was the trip to Atlantic City such a big deal? 354 00:21:53,195 --> 00:21:55,155 Okay, the backstory is this. 355 00:21:55,238 --> 00:21:58,408 So, the Bulls win in '91. They win the championship. 356 00:21:58,992 --> 00:22:01,536 You go to the White House when you win the championship. 357 00:22:01,620 --> 00:22:02,871 Ready. Get set... 358 00:22:02,954 --> 00:22:04,998 Except Jordan didn't show. 359 00:22:05,957 --> 00:22:08,585 He said, "Time with family. I gotta be..." 360 00:22:08,668 --> 00:22:10,712 No, he was out gambling with Slim Bouler. 361 00:22:14,925 --> 00:22:17,511 Slim Bouler was a golf hustler 362 00:22:17,594 --> 00:22:21,389 and back in December of 1991, 363 00:22:21,973 --> 00:22:25,769 he was brought up on drug and money laundering charges. 364 00:22:26,394 --> 00:22:31,566 And federal agents found a check made out from Michael Jordan 365 00:22:31,650 --> 00:22:34,861 to Slim Bouler for $57,000. 366 00:22:34,945 --> 00:22:37,739 Jordan initially said, "That was just a loan I made him." 367 00:22:38,615 --> 00:22:44,287 But Michael was a witness in this case involving Slim Bouler, 368 00:22:44,371 --> 00:22:48,416 and Michael admitted that he was repaying a gambling debt. 369 00:22:48,500 --> 00:22:51,253 "What was the money for?" asked Bouler's attorney. 370 00:22:51,336 --> 00:22:55,215 "It was what I lost gambling. It was never a loan. 371 00:22:55,298 --> 00:22:59,010 I said it was a loan strictly to save the embarrassment and pain." 372 00:22:59,636 --> 00:23:03,056 So, when Michael spends all night gambling in Atlantic City, 373 00:23:03,140 --> 00:23:07,644 after they lost game one, it became a very public issue 374 00:23:07,727 --> 00:23:12,816 in terms of, "Is this signs of some kind of a problem with him?" 375 00:23:12,899 --> 00:23:16,486 And then you add to that the Esquinas book, 376 00:23:17,195 --> 00:23:21,283 which came out in the midst of that Atlantic City fiasco. 377 00:23:21,366 --> 00:23:25,162 In a book titled Michael and Me: Our Gambling Addiction, 378 00:23:25,245 --> 00:23:27,747 Richard Esquinas, a onetime general manager 379 00:23:27,831 --> 00:23:29,416 of the San Diego Sports Arena, 380 00:23:29,499 --> 00:23:34,462 makes the claim that Michael Jordan owed him more than $1.2 million, 381 00:23:34,546 --> 00:23:37,048 a result of gambling on their golf matches. 382 00:23:37,507 --> 00:23:40,719 Yeah, Richard Esquinas... We met from a third party. 383 00:23:40,802 --> 00:23:43,889 I'm actually playing golf with people all the time now. 384 00:23:43,972 --> 00:23:45,515 If they wanna gamble, we gamble. 385 00:23:45,599 --> 00:23:47,392 The character of those individuals, 386 00:23:47,475 --> 00:23:51,271 I found out later what kind of people I was playing with. 387 00:23:51,354 --> 00:23:53,398 I learned that lesson. 388 00:23:53,481 --> 00:23:56,526 But the act of gambling, I didn't do anything wrong. 389 00:23:56,610 --> 00:24:02,115 And it right away went right to the most deepest, darkest kind of side of it. 390 00:24:02,199 --> 00:24:03,658 Is he throwing games? 391 00:24:04,242 --> 00:24:05,994 Has it gone beyond golf? 392 00:24:06,077 --> 00:24:07,787 Never has. Never has. 393 00:24:07,871 --> 00:24:10,624 Michael and I were competitive and gambling on the golf course. 394 00:24:10,707 --> 00:24:11,958 We play cards. 395 00:24:12,042 --> 00:24:16,004 I was in many of the card games, but never anything else. 396 00:24:16,087 --> 00:24:20,091 I never bet on games, I only bet on myself and that was golf. 397 00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:23,553 Do I like to play blackjack? Yeah, I like playing blackjack. 398 00:24:23,637 --> 00:24:24,804 There's no laws with that. 399 00:24:24,888 --> 00:24:28,058 And the league did call me and they asked questions about it, 400 00:24:28,141 --> 00:24:30,185 and I told them exactly what was happening. 401 00:24:31,269 --> 00:24:36,024 Michael was betting on his golf game. 402 00:24:36,107 --> 00:24:40,528 Larger numbers than you or I might bet if we played golf together. 403 00:24:40,612 --> 00:24:44,366 But, you know, given Michael's earnings and the like, 404 00:24:44,449 --> 00:24:49,537 we just never... It never reached epic crisis levels in my view. 405 00:24:54,292 --> 00:24:56,211 I understand that people 406 00:24:56,294 --> 00:24:58,546 would see and hear about amounts of money like that 407 00:24:58,630 --> 00:25:00,298 and go, "Wow! That's a lot of money." 408 00:25:00,382 --> 00:25:03,134 What I used to always say to people is that, 409 00:25:03,218 --> 00:25:07,514 for Michael Jordan, $10,000 is like you gambling $10. 410 00:25:07,597 --> 00:25:11,059 He's got it. He's good for it. You don't have to worry about it. 411 00:25:11,142 --> 00:25:12,686 The thought has occurred 412 00:25:12,769 --> 00:25:15,689 that you aren't really gambling with money, 413 00:25:15,772 --> 00:25:18,191 you're gambling with your reputation. 414 00:25:18,775 --> 00:25:20,694 Gambling with your good name. 415 00:25:21,403 --> 00:25:25,490 What would they consider my good name? The purest of all pure? 416 00:25:26,283 --> 00:25:28,576 The person that doesn't make mistakes? 417 00:25:28,660 --> 00:25:32,622 It wasn't all part of this carefully cultivated image 418 00:25:32,706 --> 00:25:36,293 that he had had of being the best basketball player in the world 419 00:25:36,376 --> 00:25:38,420 that everyone wanted to be like. 420 00:25:38,503 --> 00:25:41,131 Do you think you have a gambling problem at all? 421 00:25:41,214 --> 00:25:43,883 No. Because I can stop gambling. 422 00:25:43,967 --> 00:25:45,719 I have a competition problem. 423 00:25:46,886 --> 00:25:48,179 A competitive problem. 424 00:25:48,763 --> 00:25:52,809 It didn't affect his endorsements. It didn't affect him monetarily. 425 00:25:52,892 --> 00:25:54,853 It didn't really affect his popularity. 426 00:25:55,729 --> 00:25:58,189 But the damage was to his reputation. 427 00:25:59,316 --> 00:26:04,029 And the price to pay was how tedious this all became 428 00:26:04,112 --> 00:26:07,782 for Michael to have to answer these questions. 429 00:26:12,245 --> 00:26:14,998 Were you playing $1,000-a-hole golf down there? 430 00:26:15,081 --> 00:26:17,751 - Is that what was going on? - Is this an addiction? 431 00:26:17,834 --> 00:26:20,170 When you're answering these questions over and over again, 432 00:26:20,253 --> 00:26:23,923 and feeling you have to defend yourself, it's exhausting. 433 00:26:24,507 --> 00:26:26,593 Get 'em off the floor. It's one o'clock. 434 00:26:26,676 --> 00:26:27,886 Let's start it up. 435 00:26:28,470 --> 00:26:34,017 He was really starting to grate against the media onslaught. 436 00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:37,562 Michael becomes irate and refuses to talk to the media. 437 00:26:38,563 --> 00:26:40,732 The curtain of silence started to come down. 438 00:26:41,775 --> 00:26:43,276 He wanted no part of it. 439 00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:46,363 Let someone like his dad have to answer these questions for him. 440 00:26:46,863 --> 00:26:49,491 I stopped talking. My father said, "Let me handle this." 441 00:26:49,574 --> 00:26:52,285 I said, "Dad, you don't have to." He said, "Nah." He wanted to. 442 00:26:52,369 --> 00:26:55,789 He has given the best of him. 443 00:26:55,872 --> 00:27:00,335 He has sacrificed to try to satisfy everybody. 444 00:27:00,877 --> 00:27:04,464 And after doing all of that, people still find a way of knocking him. 445 00:27:04,547 --> 00:27:07,050 And he's saying, "Damn, how much is enough?" 446 00:27:10,553 --> 00:27:13,890 Around that time, I remember Magic Johnson saying, 447 00:27:14,474 --> 00:27:17,060 "You guys are gonna drive him out of this game 448 00:27:17,143 --> 00:27:19,604 if you keep this up, 'cause he's tired of it. 449 00:27:19,687 --> 00:27:21,648 He's tired of you guys picking on him." 450 00:27:26,986 --> 00:27:29,072 People build you up to tear you down. 451 00:27:29,948 --> 00:27:31,699 It happens in sports all the time. 452 00:27:31,783 --> 00:27:34,744 If a team wins too much, you want 'em to lose. 453 00:27:38,123 --> 00:27:42,752 The public has an appetite for these kind of rise-and-fall narratives. 454 00:27:46,756 --> 00:27:49,217 Let's go, baby! Let's go! 455 00:27:49,801 --> 00:27:52,720 I think he was disgusted with what happened, 456 00:27:52,804 --> 00:27:55,056 and Michael had to respond. 457 00:27:57,434 --> 00:27:58,768 And respond he did. 458 00:28:01,438 --> 00:28:03,356 Here's Jordan for the fadeaway. 459 00:28:05,817 --> 00:28:07,610 Jordan off the hesitation dribble! 460 00:28:08,736 --> 00:28:11,489 Look out! Starks went barreling into Pippen. 461 00:28:11,573 --> 00:28:14,868 And Starks in the face of Pippen who just looks to walk away. 462 00:28:14,951 --> 00:28:16,703 Look out. They're pushing and shoving. 463 00:28:17,287 --> 00:28:20,206 And they continue on! Jordan wants a go at him! 464 00:28:24,752 --> 00:28:27,464 The team rally in the support of Michael Jordan. 465 00:28:27,547 --> 00:28:30,717 He is so upset with the criticism he received 466 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,635 for his journey down to Atlantic City. 467 00:28:34,012 --> 00:28:37,223 A convincing Chicago Bulls victory. 468 00:28:38,224 --> 00:28:41,102 Michael could make things up to motivate himself. 469 00:28:41,186 --> 00:28:43,396 He didn't have to make anything up. This was real. 470 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,107 This was the media scolding you. 471 00:28:47,317 --> 00:28:50,361 And he says, "I'll show you." And he did. 472 00:29:01,915 --> 00:29:05,293 A standing ovation for the Chicago Bulls. 473 00:29:06,127 --> 00:29:09,005 Fifty-four points for Michael Jordan. 474 00:29:19,015 --> 00:29:20,850 Game five. The series is tied. 475 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,441 The Bulls are up one with 20 seconds left, 476 00:29:28,525 --> 00:29:32,487 and there's poor Charles Smith trying his best to get the ball into the basket. 477 00:29:32,570 --> 00:29:35,114 Ewing for Smith! Smith! 478 00:29:36,115 --> 00:29:40,370 Smith! Smith... stopped! Smith stopped again by Pippen! 479 00:29:40,453 --> 00:29:41,955 What a play by Scottie Pippen! 480 00:29:42,038 --> 00:29:43,706 Jordan and Pippen and Grant 481 00:29:45,041 --> 00:29:49,254 simply refusing to let the ball go in the basket. Wouldn't allow it. 482 00:29:50,797 --> 00:29:53,258 It's one of the great defensive sequences of all time. 483 00:29:53,967 --> 00:29:56,219 The Bulls have defeated the Knicks! 484 00:29:59,764 --> 00:30:02,600 That's the series. They close it out in Chicago the next game. 485 00:30:10,942 --> 00:30:15,613 There it is! Chicago going on to the NBA Finals. 486 00:30:16,739 --> 00:30:20,201 Chicago will attempt to three-peat, 487 00:30:20,285 --> 00:30:26,249 trying to be become only the third team in NBA history to pull off three in a row. 488 00:30:26,332 --> 00:30:29,794 Did you feel all that negative publicity about Michael going to Atlantic City 489 00:30:29,877 --> 00:30:31,504 really pulled you guys together? 490 00:30:31,588 --> 00:30:33,256 Yeah, we take that personally. 491 00:30:33,339 --> 00:30:35,508 We're a team, we've been a team a long time, 492 00:30:35,592 --> 00:30:38,011 and when you attack one of ours, we gotta bond together. 493 00:30:38,094 --> 00:30:40,680 It's the only thing we have, and it showed on the floor. 494 00:30:51,024 --> 00:30:52,650 - 11:45. - What is it? 495 00:30:52,734 --> 00:30:55,695 - Eleven... Oh, I'm sorry. 1:45. - Let's go, Phil! 496 00:30:57,071 --> 00:30:58,323 Ten minutes over! 497 00:30:59,657 --> 00:31:01,492 - Let's go. Where you going? - I'm ready. 498 00:31:01,576 --> 00:31:03,286 - Let's go. Come on. - You hear that? 499 00:31:03,369 --> 00:31:06,122 - Nah, come on. Y'all miss out on this. - How's it going? 500 00:31:06,205 --> 00:31:09,459 - Now that's entertainment. - 1:45. 501 00:31:10,335 --> 00:31:11,544 Let's go! 502 00:31:13,004 --> 00:31:14,881 He's got a tee time at 3:30. 503 00:31:16,799 --> 00:31:18,843 Scottie, can I talk to you for a sec? 504 00:31:18,926 --> 00:31:21,471 Nah, man, we done. We outta here. Let's go, Pip. Come on. 505 00:31:21,554 --> 00:31:23,473 - Just till Phil comes by. - Nah. 506 00:31:23,556 --> 00:31:25,141 - Michael! - Come on! 507 00:31:25,850 --> 00:31:27,894 He's healthy, he'll be playing tomorrow. 508 00:31:27,977 --> 00:31:29,604 He's got a tee time! 509 00:31:31,064 --> 00:31:33,024 Scottie, how're you feeling? Everything all right? 510 00:31:33,107 --> 00:31:35,360 Yeah, I'm feeling good, just a little sore. 511 00:31:43,451 --> 00:31:46,871 Is there... Is there any chance Mike has got a tee time? 512 00:31:49,666 --> 00:31:52,168 Come on, get on here, Bill. Hey, give me 20 cents. 513 00:31:52,251 --> 00:31:54,712 He must be ready to go. Driver's getting mad at you. 514 00:31:54,796 --> 00:31:58,883 Y'all gotta pay a fare to get on this bus. Let's go. Get out the way! 515 00:32:00,468 --> 00:32:03,072 - You know how to put it in gear? - Yeah, watch this. 516 00:32:03,096 --> 00:32:04,097 Oh, no. 517 00:32:04,639 --> 00:32:06,140 - Get back. - We got it. 518 00:32:06,224 --> 00:32:07,224 Let's go. 519 00:32:07,642 --> 00:32:08,642 What? 520 00:32:12,438 --> 00:32:14,399 You going to the swimming pool, guys? 521 00:32:14,482 --> 00:32:15,858 No, I'm going to Hooters. 522 00:32:17,151 --> 00:32:19,612 Watch some tits and ass. The shit! 523 00:32:22,907 --> 00:32:24,242 Let's go, man. 524 00:32:24,325 --> 00:32:26,202 Don't leave that spot. Hold on! 525 00:32:26,285 --> 00:32:27,537 Come on, Ron Harper! 526 00:32:27,620 --> 00:32:29,580 Don't y'all be trying to run out of here! 527 00:32:29,622 --> 00:32:31,708 Come on, Ron. You taking all day. 528 00:32:31,791 --> 00:32:33,835 Throw the clubs up here and come sit next to me. 529 00:32:35,503 --> 00:32:36,713 You all right, though? 530 00:32:38,089 --> 00:32:39,298 Bye-bye! 531 00:32:40,967 --> 00:32:42,301 All right, thanks! 532 00:32:50,893 --> 00:32:51,978 - Fore! - Fore! 533 00:32:52,061 --> 00:32:53,646 - Fore! - Fore. 534 00:32:53,730 --> 00:32:54,897 That's way past 'em. 535 00:32:55,606 --> 00:32:57,692 Choong. Right off their cart. 536 00:32:57,775 --> 00:33:00,027 I said, "Fore." They don't listen. 537 00:33:03,573 --> 00:33:04,699 Get your ass in there! 538 00:33:07,368 --> 00:33:08,786 - You hit that... - Garbage! 539 00:33:10,246 --> 00:33:12,206 Shit, I can't get my drive together. 540 00:33:17,086 --> 00:33:18,546 I can't read the green. 541 00:33:22,091 --> 00:33:24,886 Didn't even hesitate. Right off the bat. Get that shit! 542 00:33:26,095 --> 00:33:29,182 We broke even on a little side bet. A hundred. 200. 543 00:33:29,724 --> 00:33:31,484 For what? That wasn't a do/don't one. 544 00:33:31,517 --> 00:33:33,436 - Shit! - You said 100. You didn't say do/don't. 545 00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:35,438 I said par-birdie. What do you think that is? 546 00:33:35,521 --> 00:33:36,689 Okay. You right. 547 00:33:36,773 --> 00:33:38,941 But I win $20 on that hole anyway. 548 00:33:39,025 --> 00:33:41,486 No. I win $40 on that hole. 549 00:33:49,285 --> 00:33:51,913 That's good about Phil. Phil knows we need a break. 550 00:33:56,626 --> 00:33:59,962 Young coaches, it would probably be a practice day today. 551 00:34:01,380 --> 00:34:03,716 And you would have some mean guys. 552 00:34:35,164 --> 00:34:38,284 As Michael Jordan and the Bulls get ready to take on the Suns in Phoenix, 553 00:34:38,334 --> 00:34:41,420 they're knocking on the door of the pantheon of the greats. 554 00:34:41,504 --> 00:34:44,715 Winning three straight NBA titles would put Jordan and his teammates 555 00:34:44,799 --> 00:34:47,635 in the company of the great dynasties of the past. 556 00:34:49,136 --> 00:34:51,889 Hi, everybody. I'm Bob Costas. Welcome to the NBA Finals. 557 00:34:52,473 --> 00:34:56,686 The news is that Michael Jordan has broken his two-week media silence. 558 00:34:56,769 --> 00:34:59,105 About an hour and a half before the game began, 559 00:34:59,188 --> 00:35:02,567 he was willing to talk specifically to Ahmad Rashad. 560 00:35:03,442 --> 00:35:05,945 Before game one, Mike goes, "Hey, man, 561 00:35:06,529 --> 00:35:08,614 can you go get a camera? I wanna do this interview. 562 00:35:08,698 --> 00:35:11,367 They've been talking about my gambling. I'm sick of all this stuff. 563 00:35:11,450 --> 00:35:13,911 Let's just get it done right now." I went, "Okay." 564 00:35:14,495 --> 00:35:17,832 - Do you have a gambling problem? - No, I enjoy it. It's a hobby. 565 00:35:18,457 --> 00:35:20,543 If I had a problem, I'd be starving. 566 00:35:20,626 --> 00:35:23,796 I'd be hocking this watch, my championship rings. I would... 567 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,715 sell my house, I would do this. 568 00:35:25,798 --> 00:35:26,883 My wife would've left me 569 00:35:26,966 --> 00:35:28,926 or she'd be starving or my kids would be... 570 00:35:29,010 --> 00:35:31,721 I do not have a problem. I enjoy gambling. 571 00:35:31,804 --> 00:35:35,683 It didn't help that Michael had sunglasses on when he was doing the interview. 572 00:35:35,766 --> 00:35:40,021 Which I was... "Man, take them sunglasses off." 573 00:35:41,105 --> 00:35:44,108 The media has taken it far greater than what it is. 574 00:35:44,901 --> 00:35:47,028 Soon, whenever I walk away from this game, 575 00:35:47,987 --> 00:35:50,698 I think that's the only thing that people are gonna say 576 00:35:50,781 --> 00:35:52,575 was a bad thing about Michael Jordan. 577 00:35:52,658 --> 00:35:54,243 Could soon be after this year? 578 00:35:54,869 --> 00:35:55,869 Could be. 579 00:36:02,126 --> 00:36:04,211 In Phoenix, we had a great year. 580 00:36:04,629 --> 00:36:06,505 We had the best record in the league. 581 00:36:07,673 --> 00:36:09,634 And Charles was the MVP that year. 582 00:36:11,302 --> 00:36:14,013 I felt very confident going into that series. 583 00:36:15,431 --> 00:36:19,226 We were very determined because, if there's anybody you wanna beat, 584 00:36:19,310 --> 00:36:20,478 it's Michael Jordan. 585 00:36:21,896 --> 00:36:26,233 Barkley behind the back! Barkley for Majerle for the reverse. 586 00:36:26,317 --> 00:36:27,485 Kevin Johnson. 587 00:36:28,402 --> 00:36:29,654 Dumas puts it down! 588 00:36:30,237 --> 00:36:31,864 Handle the goddamn pressure! 589 00:36:34,283 --> 00:36:35,743 I was a little bit upset 590 00:36:35,826 --> 00:36:38,871 that I didn't get the MVP that year. They gave it to Charles Barkley. 591 00:36:38,955 --> 00:36:42,375 But with that said, "Okay, fine. You can have that. I'm gonna get this." 592 00:36:42,458 --> 00:36:46,253 Jordan with the steal! And Jordan goes all the way! 593 00:36:46,337 --> 00:36:48,214 Beautiful finish by Michael! 594 00:36:51,425 --> 00:36:53,761 The Purple Heart award goes to Dan Majerle 595 00:36:53,844 --> 00:36:55,471 who has to guard Michael Jordan. 596 00:36:58,432 --> 00:37:01,102 I knew that Jerry Krause loved Dan Majerle. 597 00:37:01,811 --> 00:37:05,398 And just because Krause liked him was enough for me. 598 00:37:05,481 --> 00:37:08,109 "You think he's a great defensive player? Okay, fine. 599 00:37:08,693 --> 00:37:10,027 I'mma show you that he's not." 600 00:37:16,242 --> 00:37:17,922 Jordan spins away on Majerle. 601 00:37:17,994 --> 00:37:20,746 He'll take it all the way to the basket and drops it in! 602 00:37:20,830 --> 00:37:23,624 I put it in my mindset that if I don't do this, 603 00:37:23,708 --> 00:37:26,794 then they're gonna consider him on the same level as me. 604 00:37:27,628 --> 00:37:30,089 And that motivated me to attack. 605 00:37:31,132 --> 00:37:33,134 Jordan off the dribble! 606 00:37:34,635 --> 00:37:37,471 So, the Chicago Bulls take game one. 607 00:37:37,555 --> 00:37:42,727 They led by as many as 22. And they win it 100 to 92. 608 00:37:44,020 --> 00:37:47,189 Game one of the series could be summed up in a word: nerves. 609 00:37:47,273 --> 00:37:51,068 The Bulls show that experience does pay. The Suns' lack of it cost 'em. 610 00:37:53,738 --> 00:37:56,574 We lost game one because we were so nervous. 611 00:37:58,659 --> 00:38:02,038 But in game two, I played as well as I could play. 612 00:38:02,121 --> 00:38:03,873 Barkley from the outside! 613 00:38:04,457 --> 00:38:07,960 Barkley! Barkley! Barkley... 614 00:38:09,128 --> 00:38:11,297 And Michael just outplayed me. 615 00:38:12,214 --> 00:38:13,758 Jordan... Yes. 616 00:38:14,633 --> 00:38:16,343 Jordan. Jordan. 617 00:38:17,511 --> 00:38:20,848 The Suns looking down a real dark road right now. 618 00:38:21,265 --> 00:38:24,643 That was probably the first time in my life 619 00:38:24,727 --> 00:38:27,980 that I felt there was a better basketball player in the world than me, 620 00:38:28,064 --> 00:38:29,148 to be honest with you. 621 00:38:30,149 --> 00:38:34,862 So the final score: the Bulls 111, the Suns 108. 622 00:38:36,822 --> 00:38:38,866 We had won two games in Phoenix, 623 00:38:38,949 --> 00:38:42,453 and we came back to Chicago and, like, "Let's finish this out." 624 00:38:46,749 --> 00:38:49,502 Jordan. With room. For three! Yes! 625 00:38:50,086 --> 00:38:52,671 Michael is not beating us! 626 00:38:53,422 --> 00:38:58,302 Don't let him catch. Double him. Make somebody else win the game. 627 00:38:59,095 --> 00:39:02,181 Barkley setting for the three. And he hits it! 628 00:39:02,264 --> 00:39:03,557 It was, like... 629 00:39:05,851 --> 00:39:09,438 one of the most roller-coaster series I've ever been in. 630 00:39:10,189 --> 00:39:12,483 Game three went into triple overtime. 631 00:39:12,566 --> 00:39:15,277 We head off to a third overtime. 632 00:39:15,820 --> 00:39:18,781 Not to brag on myself, I was not going to let us lose. 633 00:39:23,202 --> 00:39:24,882 Johnson came up with a steal, 634 00:39:24,912 --> 00:39:26,330 and Barkley able to finish it off. 635 00:39:28,207 --> 00:39:29,583 Barkley on the intercept! 636 00:39:29,667 --> 00:39:33,504 Charles Barkley with the interception and the field goal. 637 00:39:34,088 --> 00:39:36,632 The Phoenix Suns in triple overtime 638 00:39:36,715 --> 00:39:42,596 have defeated the Chicago Bulls 129-121 639 00:39:43,389 --> 00:39:45,975 to battle their way back into this series. 640 00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:48,018 After Sunday night's epic, 641 00:39:48,102 --> 00:39:51,897 there's a feeling that the Phoenix Suns are here as foes, not foils. 642 00:39:51,981 --> 00:39:53,607 That they made it a series again. 643 00:39:53,691 --> 00:39:56,610 And now it's the Bulls' turn to respond to a challenge. 644 00:39:57,736 --> 00:39:59,155 Jordan... Yes. 645 00:40:00,447 --> 00:40:03,617 Jordan around Dumas. Yes! And it counts. 646 00:40:03,701 --> 00:40:06,370 Jordan and Ainge trash-talking. 647 00:40:06,453 --> 00:40:08,122 Ainge with his hands on Jordan. 648 00:40:08,205 --> 00:40:10,583 Jordan just told him, "Get your hands off me." 649 00:40:12,042 --> 00:40:14,170 Bulls with a two-point lead. 650 00:40:17,047 --> 00:40:19,466 Jordan... Yes! And it counts! 651 00:40:23,888 --> 00:40:29,727 So, the Chicago Bulls have taken a three games to one lead, 652 00:40:29,810 --> 00:40:34,148 led by Michael Jordan who had 55 points. 653 00:40:35,232 --> 00:40:37,526 Don't take it personally, Charles! 654 00:40:39,278 --> 00:40:44,200 Before game five, they already started celebrations in Chicago. 655 00:40:45,242 --> 00:40:47,286 They were boarding up windows. 656 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,916 They want you to celebrate with class and don't destroy stuff. 657 00:40:52,499 --> 00:40:55,294 By the time you get to the game, you're steaming, to be honest. 658 00:40:55,377 --> 00:40:58,714 We're like, "Guys, we cannot lose this game." 659 00:41:01,926 --> 00:41:03,886 Jordan's pass broken up. 660 00:41:03,969 --> 00:41:06,222 Johnson for Barkley. Armstrong back. 661 00:41:06,305 --> 00:41:09,892 And Charles Barkley extends to a 27-15 lead. 662 00:41:10,476 --> 00:41:12,895 Jordan... Stopped from behind. 663 00:41:12,978 --> 00:41:16,273 Dumas got a piece of it. And Dumas will finish it off. 664 00:41:19,193 --> 00:41:20,903 Michael Jordan upset. 665 00:41:21,570 --> 00:41:24,323 I tell you, the Phoenix Suns are playing better. 666 00:41:24,406 --> 00:41:26,992 They're hotter, they're playing better than the Chicago Bulls, 667 00:41:27,076 --> 00:41:28,244 and the Bulls are in trouble. 668 00:41:28,327 --> 00:41:29,662 That will do it. 669 00:41:29,745 --> 00:41:35,042 The Phoenix Suns, leading most of the way, remain alive in this best-of-seven 670 00:41:35,125 --> 00:41:38,504 but this series goes back to Phoenix. 671 00:41:39,338 --> 00:41:42,967 Charles, a final message to the people of Chicago as you head back? 672 00:41:43,050 --> 00:41:44,885 Take that shit off the windows. 673 00:41:47,137 --> 00:41:48,681 You don't need it tonight. 674 00:41:50,849 --> 00:41:52,309 We lost game five, 675 00:41:52,393 --> 00:41:55,980 so we have to fly out to Phoenix and play this game number six. 676 00:41:57,648 --> 00:42:00,317 Michael got on the plane. He had a cigar. 677 00:42:00,943 --> 00:42:03,320 Then he said he wanted to speak to the team. 678 00:42:04,321 --> 00:42:08,367 Everybody is dreading getting back on the plane and going back to Phoenix. 679 00:42:08,450 --> 00:42:11,578 So I just say, "Look, man, I don't know about you guys. 680 00:42:11,662 --> 00:42:13,205 I'm only packing one suit. 681 00:42:13,706 --> 00:42:16,667 We're going back to win one game. I'm not going there to play two games." 682 00:42:17,584 --> 00:42:19,628 Michael Jordan on a pull-up. Yes. 683 00:42:19,712 --> 00:42:21,046 Jordan for three. 684 00:42:21,130 --> 00:42:23,674 And Michael Jordan has tied the game. 685 00:42:24,383 --> 00:42:26,302 Jordan hits another three! 686 00:42:26,385 --> 00:42:30,055 Michael had that ability where he was not going to let them lose. 687 00:42:30,139 --> 00:42:33,100 Just under one minute remaining in this fourth quarter. 688 00:42:33,183 --> 00:42:35,853 Suns lead 98 to 94. 689 00:42:37,146 --> 00:42:41,317 Frank Johnson, not the man that the Suns would've wanted to take that shot. 690 00:42:41,984 --> 00:42:44,153 And Jordan was able to go the distance. 691 00:42:44,236 --> 00:42:45,779 Worst thing to happen! 692 00:42:45,863 --> 00:42:48,449 Let 'em score and use up very few precious seconds! 693 00:42:48,532 --> 00:42:50,427 It's Chicago's game to win or lose. 694 00:42:50,451 --> 00:42:53,537 They put 14.1 seconds up, Suns lead by two. 695 00:42:53,620 --> 00:42:56,498 They're gonna put the ball in Michael Jordan's hands. 696 00:42:56,582 --> 00:43:00,544 It's come down to this possession. The Suns by two. 697 00:43:01,128 --> 00:43:02,463 And Pippen got the snatch. 698 00:43:03,005 --> 00:43:04,631 Here's Paxson. For three! 699 00:43:05,132 --> 00:43:09,094 Yes! The Bulls take a one-point lead and... 700 00:43:10,095 --> 00:43:13,974 Yeah! Hits the three! The crowd is stunned. 701 00:43:14,058 --> 00:43:16,352 John Paxson nails the three! 702 00:43:16,435 --> 00:43:20,230 That's the first score by anybody other than Michael Jordan 703 00:43:20,314 --> 00:43:22,149 in the entire fourth quarter! 704 00:43:22,232 --> 00:43:24,443 The ball was not supposed to come to me. 705 00:43:25,235 --> 00:43:27,112 But as a player, you're always ready. 706 00:43:29,114 --> 00:43:33,243 And for me, personally, it was pretty special. 707 00:43:34,787 --> 00:43:35,996 It's all over! 708 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:41,794 The Chicago Bulls have made it three straight NBA championships. 709 00:43:41,877 --> 00:43:45,464 A three-point shot by John Paxson, the game winner. 710 00:43:45,547 --> 00:43:48,384 I have no problem losing to Michael. 711 00:43:48,467 --> 00:43:51,512 Losing to Michael, there's no shame in that. 712 00:43:53,472 --> 00:43:55,599 Sports are like a gunfight. 713 00:43:57,267 --> 00:44:00,396 And... we lost to the fastest gun. 714 00:44:02,523 --> 00:44:03,523 Whoo! 715 00:44:07,403 --> 00:44:09,696 Physically, I was getting exhausted, 716 00:44:10,948 --> 00:44:14,618 but, mentally, I was way past exhausted. 717 00:44:16,203 --> 00:44:18,038 When you try to do something repetitively, 718 00:44:18,122 --> 00:44:22,167 you lose some of the hunger and some of the edge. 719 00:44:31,093 --> 00:44:34,221 Here's the thing. I think, when we won the third championship, 720 00:44:34,972 --> 00:44:40,269 being around him, there was more relief than true joy. 721 00:44:40,352 --> 00:44:44,273 Like, it's over, you know? He was tired. 722 00:44:45,858 --> 00:44:48,735 The aftermath, you kind of feel like... 723 00:44:52,990 --> 00:44:54,324 "What are we gonna do?" 724 00:44:55,909 --> 00:45:00,122 This has been a very hard and trying time. This has been a tough year. 725 00:45:02,499 --> 00:45:04,168 Do I have to do anything else? 726 00:45:04,251 --> 00:45:06,462 - Can I just sit here for a few minutes? - Yup. 727 00:45:06,545 --> 00:45:07,796 Did you want to call your wife? 728 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,465 Yeah, man. Yes. 729 00:45:17,556 --> 00:45:20,559 Is it... Is it joy or is it relief or is it a combination? 730 00:45:20,642 --> 00:45:22,603 This has been a great year, but a tough year. 731 00:45:22,686 --> 00:45:25,772 It's both. It's a relief. Plus it's great to win. 732 00:45:25,856 --> 00:45:27,357 I think we've gone through a lot. 733 00:45:27,441 --> 00:45:30,277 Me, personally, I've gone through a lot up to now, but... 734 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,238 To cap it off this way means a lot to me, believe me. 735 00:45:43,916 --> 00:45:45,334 My fame is... 736 00:45:46,084 --> 00:45:47,836 It was good at the beginning. 737 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,380 Any time people talk about you in a positive way, 738 00:45:50,464 --> 00:45:56,178 yeah, it's great to hear those comments, but now that you are... on a pedestal, 739 00:45:56,261 --> 00:45:58,222 it's not just the positive talking that you hear. 740 00:45:58,305 --> 00:46:01,308 You hear some points and some people taking shots at you, and... 741 00:46:01,934 --> 00:46:07,689 that really changes the whole idea of being out there for people to see you. 742 00:46:07,773 --> 00:46:10,734 You wanna get behind closed doors so people don't know you as much. 743 00:46:10,817 --> 00:46:13,737 So, I'm at that stage in my career and my life that... 744 00:46:14,404 --> 00:46:17,991 I'd rather get behind closed doors than to be out there in the spotlight 745 00:46:18,075 --> 00:46:21,828 to be taking shots from everyone that really don't know you as a person. 746 00:46:25,082 --> 00:46:26,917 If I had the chance to do it all over again, 747 00:46:27,417 --> 00:46:30,045 I would never wanna be considered a role model. 748 00:46:31,338 --> 00:46:33,757 It's like a game that's stacked against me. 749 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,425 There's no way I can win. 750 00:47:09,042 --> 00:47:12,045 I think I've been asked about a million times, 751 00:47:12,129 --> 00:47:14,548 "Is he gonna quit, is he not gonna quit?" 752 00:47:14,631 --> 00:47:16,508 I'm having fun making up stuff. 753 00:47:18,260 --> 00:47:23,890 No one wants me to walk out, knowing that I can still play the game. 754 00:47:23,974 --> 00:47:26,685 - But I wanna leave two years before... - Right. 755 00:47:26,768 --> 00:47:29,605 my skills say that I can't play this game. 756 00:47:29,688 --> 00:47:30,688 Mm-hmm. 757 00:47:31,398 --> 00:47:34,651 I don't wanna miss my time to go. There's a lot of players... 758 00:47:35,527 --> 00:47:37,863 say that, "I'm gonna play until I can't play ever again." 759 00:47:37,946 --> 00:47:40,490 - Right. - I think Patrick said that one time. 760 00:47:40,574 --> 00:47:44,244 That they'll have to carry him off the court. You know. 761 00:47:44,328 --> 00:47:46,580 - Mm-hmm. - That's a... Ain't never... 762 00:47:46,663 --> 00:47:49,333 Nobody gonna carry me off the court. I wanna walk off the court. 763 00:47:52,127 --> 00:47:55,130 A lot of people say, "Well, you're gonna miss it." 764 00:47:56,006 --> 00:47:58,884 I'm not... I'm not sure if I'm gonna miss it. 765 00:48:01,011 --> 00:48:02,429 I don't think I'm gonna miss it. 766 00:48:03,096 --> 00:48:05,682 Michael is Zen-calm around the Bulls, 767 00:48:05,766 --> 00:48:07,726 as they start their postseason tonight. 768 00:48:07,809 --> 00:48:10,896 A calm that blocks out the speculation about Jordan's retirement, 769 00:48:10,979 --> 00:48:13,774 Phil Jackson's departure, all the front-office politics. 770 00:48:13,857 --> 00:48:16,234 If indeed this is the fabled last dance, 771 00:48:16,318 --> 00:48:18,570 then pay attention because it does begin tonight 772 00:48:18,654 --> 00:48:20,697 for a team that has a rested Scottie Pippen, 773 00:48:20,781 --> 00:48:23,200 the best player in the world, the top eastern seed, 774 00:48:23,283 --> 00:48:26,078 and five games to tune it up against the New Jersey Nets.