1 00:00:03,345 --> 00:00:05,061 Jane? 2 00:00:10,018 --> 00:00:10,984 Hi, Lisbon. 3 00:00:10,986 --> 00:00:12,135 What are you doing? 4 00:00:12,137 --> 00:00:13,886 Uh, just working. 5 00:00:13,888 --> 00:00:15,605 Okay, well, out here in the real world, 6 00:00:15,607 --> 00:00:17,407 we have a case. We have to go. 7 00:00:17,409 --> 00:00:18,408 Yeah. Okay. 8 00:00:18,410 --> 00:00:21,327 Uh... 9 00:00:37,178 --> 00:00:38,344 Let's go. 10 00:00:39,546 --> 00:00:41,514 You think you're so mysterious. 11 00:00:41,516 --> 00:00:43,099 I know what you're doing in there. 12 00:00:43,101 --> 00:00:44,083 Oh, really? What? 13 00:00:44,085 --> 00:00:45,685 You're making a list, 14 00:00:45,687 --> 00:00:48,271 trying to figure out who it is that you've met that's Red John. 15 00:00:48,273 --> 00:00:49,639 Not just met, shaken hands with. 16 00:00:49,641 --> 00:00:51,138 How many people are on that list, anyway? 17 00:00:51,163 --> 00:00:52,714 A lot. 18 00:00:53,395 --> 00:00:56,262 Got a male shooting victim. Looks to be early 20s. 19 00:00:56,264 --> 00:00:58,114 Happened about an hour ago. No I.D. 20 00:00:58,116 --> 00:00:59,204 Who called it in? 21 00:00:59,205 --> 00:01:00,672 Bartender. We're getting a statement. 22 00:01:00,869 --> 00:01:02,118 What do the witnesses have to say? 23 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,769 Uh, not sure. Cho's talking to them. 24 00:01:03,771 --> 00:01:05,455 Has the coroner taken a look at him yet? 25 00:01:05,457 --> 00:01:06,572 Yeah, he's on his way. 26 00:01:06,574 --> 00:01:08,825 What... what's that on his face? 27 00:01:08,827 --> 00:01:10,326 What? Oh, boy. 28 00:01:11,912 --> 00:01:15,131 Happy anniversary! 29 00:01:15,133 --> 00:01:16,749 What's goin' on? 30 00:01:16,751 --> 00:01:19,218 Come in, everybody! 31 00:01:19,220 --> 00:01:21,004 Ladies and gentlemen, 32 00:01:21,006 --> 00:01:23,056 ten years ago, Teresa Lisbon 33 00:01:23,058 --> 00:01:24,790 left the San Francisco Police Department 34 00:01:24,792 --> 00:01:26,976 to join the California Bureau of Investigation. 35 00:01:26,978 --> 00:01:29,095 Today she is without doubt 36 00:01:29,097 --> 00:01:31,681 the rootinest, tootinest, sharp-shootinest cop 37 00:01:31,683 --> 00:01:32,849 in the whole state of California. 38 00:01:32,851 --> 00:01:34,851 Happy anniversary, boss. 39 00:01:34,853 --> 00:01:36,185 - Hear, hear. - Whoo! 40 00:01:38,272 --> 00:01:39,772 If we could start the music, please? 41 00:01:39,774 --> 00:01:41,357 - I had no idea. - Let's party! 42 00:01:41,359 --> 00:01:42,492 Congratulations, Lisbon. 43 00:01:42,494 --> 00:01:43,943 Thank you, Ron. 44 00:01:43,945 --> 00:01:45,495 Why did you do this? 45 00:01:45,497 --> 00:01:48,247 It was Rigsby's idea. 46 00:01:48,249 --> 00:01:49,449 Yeah? 47 00:01:49,451 --> 00:01:50,950 Is he taking his clothes off? 48 00:01:50,952 --> 00:01:51,918 He is. 49 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,986 Oh, my God. Uh-oh. Yeah. 50 00:01:53,988 --> 00:01:55,355 Congratulations. 51 00:01:55,357 --> 00:01:56,622 Thank you, Ray. 52 00:01:56,624 --> 00:01:58,124 Haffner. Good to see you. 53 00:01:58,126 --> 00:01:59,542 You know, I really enjoyed when we worked together. 54 00:01:59,544 --> 00:02:00,510 We should do it again sometime. 55 00:02:00,512 --> 00:02:01,544 Oh, yeah, yeah. 56 00:02:01,546 --> 00:02:02,962 You mean when you almost got me fired? 57 00:02:02,964 --> 00:02:04,213 Yeah, that was a lot of fun. 58 00:02:04,215 --> 00:02:05,681 Hey, um, can we grab lunch? 59 00:02:05,683 --> 00:02:07,183 There's just something I wanna discuss with you. 60 00:02:07,185 --> 00:02:08,134 Yeah, sure. 61 00:02:08,136 --> 00:02:09,886 All right. I'll call you. Jane. 62 00:02:09,888 --> 00:02:11,354 How come he doesn't like me? 63 00:02:11,356 --> 00:02:12,355 You got lunch here, you got... 64 00:02:12,357 --> 00:02:13,356 Oh, look out. 65 00:02:13,358 --> 00:02:14,390 What? 66 00:02:14,392 --> 00:02:16,859 Okay, that's enough. Shoo. Okay? 67 00:02:16,861 --> 00:02:18,478 It was fun. But not my butt. 68 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,698 That was the office. Homicide out in Placer County. 69 00:02:22,700 --> 00:02:24,484 The team that was supposed to cover for us today 70 00:02:24,486 --> 00:02:25,818 can't make it out there. 71 00:02:25,820 --> 00:02:28,521 Well, I don't think we can drag Lisbon away from this. 72 00:02:28,523 --> 00:02:30,573 Can't we cover it, Cho? Yeah. Yeah, we can. 73 00:02:30,575 --> 00:02:34,210 Okay. Where did you find that guy? 74 00:02:34,212 --> 00:02:36,462 That was fun. But we're done, okay? 75 00:02:36,464 --> 00:02:38,030 Oh, yeah. Those are nice moves. 76 00:02:45,005 --> 00:02:47,390 CBI. I'm Agent Cho, this is Patrick Jane. 77 00:02:47,392 --> 00:02:49,225 Rick Anaya. Chief here in Elliston. 78 00:02:49,227 --> 00:02:50,726 Good to meet you. This way. 79 00:02:50,728 --> 00:02:52,895 The bodies were found in a secret basement 80 00:02:52,897 --> 00:02:54,647 under the barn floor. 81 00:02:54,649 --> 00:02:56,048 And what's with the secret basement? 82 00:02:56,050 --> 00:02:57,600 Yeah, probably built in the '20s 83 00:02:57,602 --> 00:02:59,519 to hide booze during prohibition. 84 00:02:59,521 --> 00:03:01,053 My dad, who was chief before me, 85 00:03:01,055 --> 00:03:03,722 said there used to be stills all through these parts. 86 00:03:03,724 --> 00:03:04,857 Kids were playing in the barn, 87 00:03:04,859 --> 00:03:09,162 found a trap door, went in, found some bones. 88 00:03:09,164 --> 00:03:10,780 If you boys are still in town for dinner, 89 00:03:10,782 --> 00:03:13,082 Ella's Diner on Allen street— 90 00:03:13,084 --> 00:03:16,035 best damn chili in town. 91 00:03:19,874 --> 00:03:21,340 What's the coroner say? 92 00:03:21,342 --> 00:03:24,210 Well, right now he's guessing they died 20, 25 years ago. 93 00:03:24,212 --> 00:03:27,213 Whoa. He confirms three bodies in all. 94 00:03:31,101 --> 00:03:32,185 What is it? 95 00:03:32,187 --> 00:03:34,720 Uh, looks like a shotgun pellet. 96 00:03:34,722 --> 00:03:36,589 Yeah, we found some of those under the bones. 97 00:03:36,591 --> 00:03:39,525 Figured they fell out the body as they decomposed. 98 00:03:39,527 --> 00:03:41,561 No shell casings in here, though. 99 00:03:41,563 --> 00:03:43,146 Must have shot them somewhere else, 100 00:03:43,148 --> 00:03:46,899 brought the bodies here. 101 00:03:46,901 --> 00:03:49,619 Anything else? Yeah, a couple of things. 102 00:03:49,621 --> 00:03:54,240 High school class ring. Guess it fell off one of them. 103 00:03:54,242 --> 00:03:55,575 We'll check that out. Is that it? 104 00:03:55,577 --> 00:03:57,793 No, this.38. 105 00:03:57,795 --> 00:04:00,046 And one round's been fired. 106 00:04:00,048 --> 00:04:03,449 Not in here, as far as we can tell. 107 00:04:03,451 --> 00:04:05,968 You see that wire? 108 00:04:05,970 --> 00:04:07,336 On the wrist? 109 00:04:07,338 --> 00:04:08,971 See, I'm guessing at least two of the victims 110 00:04:08,973 --> 00:04:10,006 were tied up with it. 111 00:04:10,008 --> 00:04:11,457 This is very depressing. 112 00:04:11,459 --> 00:04:13,342 I'm gonna wait outside. 113 00:05:13,708 --> 00:05:18,708 == sync, corrected by elderman == 114 00:05:22,193 --> 00:05:24,611 The Red John symbol was on the side of the barn? 115 00:05:24,613 --> 00:05:26,213 That's weird. Yeah. 116 00:05:26,215 --> 00:05:28,982 Must have been there 15, 20 years. 117 00:05:28,984 --> 00:05:31,384 Wonder what it means. What did Jane say? 118 00:05:31,386 --> 00:05:33,036 Nothing. Wouldn't talk about it. 119 00:05:33,038 --> 00:05:36,389 Okay. Everybody feel as bad as I do? 120 00:05:36,391 --> 00:05:38,592 Not if you feel like you look. 121 00:05:38,594 --> 00:05:39,792 I feel fine. 122 00:05:39,794 --> 00:05:41,561 What time did you get back to the party last night? 123 00:05:41,563 --> 00:05:43,463 A little past 10:00. Not that you noticed. 124 00:05:43,465 --> 00:05:46,983 Yeah. That, uh, Tequila was a killer. 125 00:05:48,303 --> 00:05:51,938 Did I, uh... Do anything embarrassing? 126 00:05:51,940 --> 00:05:53,890 Yes. Really? What? 127 00:05:53,892 --> 00:05:56,276 Good morning. Thank you for the party. 128 00:05:56,278 --> 00:05:58,578 It was very thoughtful. You're welcome. 129 00:05:58,580 --> 00:06:01,531 But I am never gonna forgive you for that stripper. 130 00:06:01,533 --> 00:06:03,533 Where are we with the three victims? 131 00:06:03,535 --> 00:06:06,586 Coroner says they probably died 25 years ago, so 1988. 132 00:06:06,588 --> 00:06:08,455 Talked to the ring manufacturer. 133 00:06:08,457 --> 00:06:10,957 They traced it back to a Lester Bradovich 134 00:06:10,959 --> 00:06:12,459 who went to a high school in Dixon. 135 00:06:12,461 --> 00:06:13,826 Checking him out now. 136 00:06:13,828 --> 00:06:16,429 The gun that was found near the bodies isn't registered. 137 00:06:16,431 --> 00:06:18,214 No sign of the bullet that was fired, either. 138 00:06:18,216 --> 00:06:20,183 But I've got techs sweeping the area around the barn. 139 00:06:20,185 --> 00:06:22,385 Nice work. Let me know what you find. 140 00:06:23,304 --> 00:06:24,771 She was kidding, right? 141 00:06:24,773 --> 00:06:26,839 About never forgiving? Nope. 142 00:06:29,944 --> 00:06:31,444 How was the rest of the party? 143 00:06:31,446 --> 00:06:34,197 Torture. That can never, ever happen again. 144 00:06:34,199 --> 00:06:35,615 Ten years, huh? 145 00:06:35,617 --> 00:06:36,566 More, actually. 146 00:06:36,568 --> 00:06:38,285 Every year with you counts as two. 147 00:06:38,287 --> 00:06:40,737 Ah. Are those from the crime scene? 148 00:06:40,739 --> 00:06:42,522 Yes. 149 00:06:48,162 --> 00:06:49,862 This can't be a coincidence, can it? 150 00:06:49,864 --> 00:06:52,031 There's no such thing. 151 00:06:52,033 --> 00:06:54,634 These murders happened ten years before Red John was even active. 152 00:06:54,636 --> 00:06:56,720 A shotgun was never his weapon of choice. 153 00:06:56,722 --> 00:06:57,804 True. 154 00:06:57,806 --> 00:07:01,007 Well, what happened? How'd it get there? 155 00:07:01,009 --> 00:07:03,810 Hmm. 156 00:07:03,812 --> 00:07:07,046 They're excellent questions. You know where to find me. 157 00:07:10,851 --> 00:07:12,068 Got a hit on Lester Bradovich. 158 00:07:12,070 --> 00:07:14,437 He had a couple of arrests in the mid-'80s. 159 00:07:14,439 --> 00:07:17,023 Small stuff. Possession, drunk and disorderly. 160 00:07:17,025 --> 00:07:19,025 No record of him after 1987. 161 00:07:19,027 --> 00:07:20,694 Family? A brother in town, 162 00:07:20,696 --> 00:07:22,245 but here's the weird thing— 163 00:07:22,247 --> 00:07:24,247 nobody ever filed a missing persons report on him. 164 00:07:24,249 --> 00:07:25,532 That's odd. You and Rigsby go 165 00:07:25,534 --> 00:07:26,583 and see what the brother has to say. 166 00:07:26,585 --> 00:07:27,784 All right. 167 00:07:29,453 --> 00:07:32,672 So what did I do last night? Come on. I'm dying here. 168 00:07:32,674 --> 00:07:36,426 You got up on the table and sang "Bohemian Rhapsody." 169 00:07:36,428 --> 00:07:38,428 Oh. I do a pretty good Freddie Mercury. 170 00:07:38,430 --> 00:07:40,046 That's not so embarrassing. 171 00:07:40,048 --> 00:07:41,097 Maybe not for you. 172 00:07:41,099 --> 00:07:42,465 Gordon Bradovich? 173 00:07:42,467 --> 00:07:45,084 Yeah? 174 00:07:45,086 --> 00:07:46,919 We need to talk to you about your brother Lester. 175 00:07:46,921 --> 00:07:49,272 Lester? Are you serious? 176 00:07:51,610 --> 00:07:54,260 You're—you're positive it's Lester? 177 00:07:54,262 --> 00:07:56,262 We're waiting for final confirmation from the coroner, 178 00:07:56,264 --> 00:07:57,947 but we're pretty sure, yeah. 179 00:07:57,949 --> 00:08:01,067 This is just unreal. 180 00:08:01,069 --> 00:08:02,819 When was your last contact with your brother? 181 00:08:02,821 --> 00:08:06,439 Oh, God, uh, sometime in the late '80s. 182 00:08:06,441 --> 00:08:08,291 So you haven't seen him in almost 25 years, 183 00:08:08,293 --> 00:08:09,876 but you never reported him missing. Why is that? 184 00:08:09,878 --> 00:08:11,678 We didn't think he was missing. 185 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,246 I don't understand. 186 00:08:13,248 --> 00:08:16,299 Lester had been in a lot of trouble. 187 00:08:16,301 --> 00:08:19,669 Drugs and scrapes with the law, and... 188 00:08:19,671 --> 00:08:21,671 then, uh, when he was about 24, 189 00:08:21,673 --> 00:08:24,340 he—he joined with this, uh, this group. 190 00:08:24,342 --> 00:08:27,761 A little weird, but, uh, very strict, very disciplined. 191 00:08:27,763 --> 00:08:29,512 Seemed to straighten him out. 192 00:08:29,514 --> 00:08:32,265 He, uh, he got calmer, stopped getting into trouble. 193 00:08:32,267 --> 00:08:34,267 And what does that have to do with his disappearance? 194 00:08:34,269 --> 00:08:35,935 Well, after about a year with them, 195 00:08:35,937 --> 00:08:37,970 he, uh, he came to my dad and me, 196 00:08:37,972 --> 00:08:41,574 and he said that he had to break off all contact 197 00:08:41,576 --> 00:08:43,410 with his biological family. 198 00:08:43,412 --> 00:08:46,279 Yeah. His group said that this was the only way 199 00:08:46,281 --> 00:08:49,499 his true identity could emerge. 200 00:08:49,501 --> 00:08:51,284 We were pretty hurt. 201 00:08:51,286 --> 00:08:53,620 But Lester—he was totally matter-of-fact about it, 202 00:08:53,622 --> 00:08:55,455 had to be done. 203 00:08:55,457 --> 00:09:00,009 That was... the last time I talked to him. 204 00:09:00,011 --> 00:09:02,128 Now you're telling me he's been dead all this time? 205 00:09:02,130 --> 00:09:05,164 I just—I-I don't even know what to think. 206 00:09:05,166 --> 00:09:06,266 What's the name of the group? 207 00:09:06,268 --> 00:09:08,334 Vision. 208 00:09:08,336 --> 00:09:09,335 No. 209 00:09:09,337 --> 00:09:11,771 Visualize. 210 00:09:11,773 --> 00:09:14,274 You've heard of it? 211 00:09:18,196 --> 00:09:19,178 Hello? 212 00:09:19,180 --> 00:09:20,313 Teresa. 213 00:09:20,315 --> 00:09:22,014 Ray Haffner. I've been looking for you. 214 00:09:22,016 --> 00:09:23,683 Hey, Ray. What's up? 215 00:09:23,685 --> 00:09:26,236 I was wondering if we could snag that lunch today 216 00:09:26,238 --> 00:09:28,288 at 1:00 at the State House Cafe. 217 00:09:28,290 --> 00:09:29,656 Sure. You wanna tell me what this is about? 218 00:09:29,658 --> 00:09:30,790 I'm intrigued. 219 00:09:30,792 --> 00:09:33,493 Then my plan is working. I'll see you then. 220 00:09:33,495 --> 00:09:34,494 What does he want? Lunch. 221 00:09:34,496 --> 00:09:35,545 Mm. Mm. 222 00:09:35,547 --> 00:09:37,864 Mr. Jane. Agent Lisbon. 223 00:09:37,866 --> 00:09:39,999 Good to see you again. Jason Cooper. 224 00:09:40,001 --> 00:09:42,001 Brother Cooper. Ah. 225 00:09:42,003 --> 00:09:44,754 Last time, uh, I saw you was, uh, 226 00:09:44,756 --> 00:09:46,923 when Bret Stiles had just uncovered your plan 227 00:09:46,925 --> 00:09:48,057 to take over this place. 228 00:09:48,059 --> 00:09:49,342 I thought he would have gutted you like a trout, 229 00:09:49,344 --> 00:09:50,310 but here you are. 230 00:09:50,312 --> 00:09:52,178 Bret's generosity is only exceeded 231 00:09:52,180 --> 00:09:53,512 by his capacity for forgiveness. 232 00:09:53,513 --> 00:09:54,097 Mm. 233 00:09:54,122 --> 00:09:56,145 Is Mr. stiles here? We need to speak with him. 234 00:09:56,184 --> 00:09:58,852 Unfortunately, Bret was called out of the country this morning. 235 00:09:58,854 --> 00:10:00,052 Convenient. 236 00:10:00,054 --> 00:10:01,988 But he asked me to answer any question you have. 237 00:10:01,990 --> 00:10:03,773 Won't you come this way? There's tea. 238 00:10:06,610 --> 00:10:09,028 Lester Bradovich belonged to our church. 239 00:10:09,030 --> 00:10:10,363 I believe there's a good chance 240 00:10:10,365 --> 00:10:13,065 that all three of the bodies you found were church members. 241 00:10:13,067 --> 00:10:14,784 Well, what makes you say that, Mr. Cooper? 242 00:10:14,786 --> 00:10:16,503 These murders occurred in 1988. 243 00:10:16,505 --> 00:10:19,572 At that time, Visualize owned the Elliston farm. 244 00:10:19,574 --> 00:10:21,624 Everyone who worked there was a member of the church. 245 00:10:21,626 --> 00:10:23,293 Why did Bret Stiles own a farm? 246 00:10:23,295 --> 00:10:24,794 He had a dream. 247 00:10:24,796 --> 00:10:28,598 He saw Visualize controlling an agricultural empire 248 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,050 based on wheat, but he wanted each of the farms 249 00:10:31,052 --> 00:10:33,019 to be a self-sustaining bio-community. 250 00:10:33,021 --> 00:10:35,972 So they had to raise their own vegetables and livestock. 251 00:10:35,974 --> 00:10:38,024 It was a grand vision. 252 00:10:38,026 --> 00:10:39,976 The church bought a half-dozen farms. 253 00:10:39,978 --> 00:10:43,196 Half a dozen? All run by people that knew nothing about farming? 254 00:10:43,198 --> 00:10:45,114 Let's just say that enthusiasm 255 00:10:45,116 --> 00:10:47,066 was a poor substitute for expertise. 256 00:10:47,068 --> 00:10:50,036 They all failed in a year or two. 257 00:10:50,038 --> 00:10:51,871 Lester Bradovich ran the Elliston farm 258 00:10:51,873 --> 00:10:53,439 with two others— 259 00:10:53,441 --> 00:10:56,626 Martin Talbot and Allan Charney. 260 00:10:56,628 --> 00:11:00,163 That's what we have on them. 261 00:11:00,165 --> 00:11:03,383 In July of 1988, when we hadn't had any word for some weeks, 262 00:11:03,385 --> 00:11:05,251 we sent people down to investigate. 263 00:11:05,253 --> 00:11:07,587 They found it empty. 264 00:11:07,589 --> 00:11:10,256 We assumed that Bradovich and the others had abandoned it. 265 00:11:10,258 --> 00:11:12,508 Why didn't you file a missing persons report? 266 00:11:12,510 --> 00:11:15,345 They were adults. We weren't their parents. 267 00:11:15,347 --> 00:11:17,797 We assumed they'd run off. 268 00:11:17,799 --> 00:11:22,268 Besides, we have found, then and now, 269 00:11:22,270 --> 00:11:25,989 that the police rarely take church complaints seriously 270 00:11:25,991 --> 00:11:27,607 when we do file them. 271 00:11:31,478 --> 00:11:34,113 But we are all horrified by what happened. 272 00:11:34,115 --> 00:11:37,700 We'll do anything at all to assist in your investigation. 273 00:11:37,702 --> 00:11:38,918 You have my word. 274 00:11:41,922 --> 00:11:43,990 Martin Talbot was older. No family. 275 00:11:43,992 --> 00:11:45,708 That explains why nobody was looking for him. 276 00:11:45,710 --> 00:11:47,844 Allan Charney had family in Idaho. 277 00:11:47,846 --> 00:11:49,596 They did file a missing persons report, 278 00:11:49,598 --> 00:11:50,997 but nothing ever came of it. 279 00:11:50,999 --> 00:11:53,332 There's no other information on either one of them. 280 00:11:53,334 --> 00:11:54,767 All right, call Charney's family 281 00:11:54,769 --> 00:11:56,502 and let them know what happened. 282 00:11:56,504 --> 00:12:00,006 Visualize is sending down their files on Elliston farm. 283 00:12:00,008 --> 00:12:02,558 Go through 'em. There might be something useful. 284 00:12:02,560 --> 00:12:04,694 All right. Will do. 285 00:12:04,696 --> 00:12:07,697 I hate cold cases. No evidence, no witnesses, 286 00:12:07,699 --> 00:12:08,898 and where do you start? 287 00:12:08,900 --> 00:12:11,150 Oh, it's not so bad. You know what you need? 288 00:12:11,152 --> 00:12:12,452 A viable suspect? 289 00:12:12,454 --> 00:12:15,405 Big bowl of chili verde. Come on. Let's go. 290 00:12:28,752 --> 00:12:29,752 Ella's Diner? 291 00:12:29,754 --> 00:12:32,555 Best damn chili in town, I'm told. 292 00:12:32,557 --> 00:12:34,590 Please tell me we're not here for chili. 293 00:12:34,592 --> 00:12:37,544 Of course not. We're here to find a killer. 294 00:12:44,165 --> 00:12:45,481 What are we doing here, Jane? 295 00:12:45,983 --> 00:12:47,616 Look around. 296 00:12:47,618 --> 00:12:52,171 The collective memory of this entire town is in this room. 297 00:12:52,173 --> 00:12:54,123 Anything that happened in the last 50 years, 298 00:12:54,125 --> 00:12:55,908 you'll find out about it here. 299 00:12:55,910 --> 00:12:57,776 Here you go. Thank you. 300 00:12:57,778 --> 00:12:58,944 Lemon for your tea? 301 00:12:58,946 --> 00:12:59,945 No, thanks. 302 00:12:59,947 --> 00:13:01,296 Ma'am, we're with the CBI. 303 00:13:01,298 --> 00:13:03,248 We're investigating some murders 304 00:13:03,250 --> 00:13:05,417 that took place in town 20 years back. 305 00:13:05,419 --> 00:13:07,119 You mean the three bodies in the barn? 306 00:13:07,121 --> 00:13:08,754 Yeah, I heard. 307 00:13:08,756 --> 00:13:11,090 The victims were from a group called Visualize 308 00:13:11,092 --> 00:13:13,308 that owned the farm. Do you know anything about that? 309 00:13:13,310 --> 00:13:15,978 All I know is that they found three dead guys. 310 00:13:15,980 --> 00:13:17,930 Can I get you anything else? 311 00:13:17,932 --> 00:13:20,399 No, thanks. Collective memory? 312 00:13:20,401 --> 00:13:21,934 Uh, if I may, 313 00:13:21,936 --> 00:13:23,936 who told you about the three dead guys? 314 00:13:23,938 --> 00:13:26,705 Everybody knows. Yes, but who told you? 315 00:13:36,666 --> 00:13:38,167 Look, I don't wanna get anybody in trouble. 316 00:13:38,169 --> 00:13:42,121 Oh, of course. Thank you. 317 00:13:45,875 --> 00:13:47,876 Patrick Jane. I'm with the CBI. 318 00:13:47,878 --> 00:13:48,927 What's your name? 319 00:13:48,929 --> 00:13:51,046 Miles MacCambridge. Why? 320 00:13:51,048 --> 00:13:52,694 This is my colleague, Teresa Lisbon. 321 00:13:52,719 --> 00:13:53,332 Hi. 322 00:13:53,333 --> 00:13:55,050 You're the town gossip, I take it? 323 00:13:55,052 --> 00:13:56,101 I am? 324 00:13:56,103 --> 00:14:00,022 Retired schoolteacher, by the looks. 325 00:14:00,024 --> 00:14:01,506 Who's your source on the murders? 326 00:14:01,508 --> 00:14:03,692 Former student, I'm guessing? 327 00:14:03,694 --> 00:14:05,561 Am I in some kind of trouble? 328 00:14:05,563 --> 00:14:07,146 Possibly. No, you're not. 329 00:14:07,148 --> 00:14:08,346 Jury's still out. 330 00:14:08,348 --> 00:14:09,815 We're investigating the murders, 331 00:14:09,817 --> 00:14:11,567 and we'd really appreciate it if you could tell us 332 00:14:11,569 --> 00:14:14,269 anything about that farm that we found the bodies at. 333 00:14:14,271 --> 00:14:17,156 Oh, yeah. Well, it's—it's been through a lot of hands. 334 00:14:17,158 --> 00:14:18,323 It's not very good land. 335 00:14:18,325 --> 00:14:21,076 No one's worked it for at least a decade. 336 00:14:21,078 --> 00:14:22,461 What about the group, Visualize? 337 00:14:22,463 --> 00:14:25,030 They owned the farm back in the mid-'80s? 338 00:14:25,032 --> 00:14:27,699 Sure, I remember them. They stuck out. 339 00:14:27,701 --> 00:14:30,052 Pretty useless as farm folk. 340 00:14:30,054 --> 00:14:32,421 How did they get along with the other people in town? 341 00:14:32,423 --> 00:14:34,256 Were there any conflicts that you remember? 342 00:14:34,258 --> 00:14:36,225 They mostly kept to themselves. 343 00:14:36,227 --> 00:14:39,228 I remember one person bitching about 'em— 344 00:14:39,230 --> 00:14:40,763 a farmer named Tom Crayhew. 345 00:14:40,765 --> 00:14:42,848 Couldn't tell you what he was upset about, 346 00:14:42,850 --> 00:14:44,216 too long ago. 347 00:14:44,218 --> 00:14:46,435 Uh, we really appreciate it. Thank you. 348 00:14:46,437 --> 00:14:49,271 So I'm not in any trouble? Jury's still out. 349 00:14:49,273 --> 00:14:50,522 You're fine, sir. 350 00:14:50,524 --> 00:14:52,107 Looky here. 351 00:14:52,109 --> 00:14:55,244 Took me up on my recommendation, I see? 352 00:14:55,246 --> 00:14:57,079 Tell Elena to put your check on my tab. 353 00:14:57,081 --> 00:14:58,413 Aw, that's okay. 354 00:14:58,415 --> 00:15:01,233 Please. It's a long tab. 355 00:15:01,235 --> 00:15:03,619 Enjoy. 356 00:15:03,621 --> 00:15:05,454 You don't like him. 357 00:15:05,456 --> 00:15:07,289 Former student? Yes. 358 00:15:07,291 --> 00:15:11,376 Mean kid? Pulled on the girls' pigtails? 359 00:15:11,378 --> 00:15:12,628 He's chief of police, 360 00:15:12,630 --> 00:15:15,514 which is a pretty powerful position around here. 361 00:15:15,516 --> 00:15:17,266 If you'll excuse me. 362 00:15:17,268 --> 00:15:19,084 Hmm. 363 00:15:22,722 --> 00:15:24,306 Is this the stuff from Visualize? 364 00:15:24,308 --> 00:15:26,809 Yeah, it's mostly letters from the farm to Visualize 365 00:15:26,811 --> 00:15:28,727 asking for more help and more money. 366 00:15:28,729 --> 00:15:30,479 And Bradovich, Charney, and Talbot 367 00:15:30,481 --> 00:15:31,947 were the only full-time workers. 368 00:15:31,949 --> 00:15:34,299 But Visualize was sending temporary people all the time— 369 00:15:34,301 --> 00:15:36,568 some members, some potential recruits. 370 00:15:36,570 --> 00:15:38,620 Their names weren't even recorded most of the time. 371 00:15:38,622 --> 00:15:39,905 Most of the time? 372 00:15:39,907 --> 00:15:41,740 Yeah, there's one lead— a guy named Peter Dibuono 373 00:15:41,742 --> 00:15:44,326 is listed as working at the farm in '86 and '87. 374 00:15:44,328 --> 00:15:46,128 He might be able to tell us something. 375 00:15:46,130 --> 00:15:48,124 I reached him on e-mail. He's coming in to talk. 376 00:15:48,149 --> 00:15:48,798 Good. 377 00:15:48,799 --> 00:15:50,082 You and Rigsby go to Elliston. 378 00:15:50,084 --> 00:15:52,134 Talk to a farmer named Tom Crayhew. 379 00:15:52,136 --> 00:15:55,137 Apparently he had some sort of beef with the Visualize farm. 380 00:15:55,139 --> 00:15:57,055 I'll be back in an hour. Where you going? 381 00:15:57,057 --> 00:15:58,807 Lunch. Ah. 382 00:15:58,809 --> 00:16:01,476 No, no. My hat's off. 383 00:16:01,478 --> 00:16:03,645 I-I only lasted two days as Jane's boss. 384 00:16:03,647 --> 00:16:05,013 He nearly killed me. 385 00:16:05,015 --> 00:16:07,065 So you—you —clearly know things that I don't. 386 00:16:07,067 --> 00:16:08,684 He is not that hard to handle. 387 00:16:08,686 --> 00:16:11,770 Really? Seriously? 'Cause I know a couple... 388 00:16:11,772 --> 00:16:14,489 thousand people who would disagree with that. 389 00:16:14,491 --> 00:16:16,808 So... ten years? 390 00:16:16,810 --> 00:16:18,861 People keep on saying that. I don't know why. 391 00:16:18,863 --> 00:16:20,162 I don't feel any different. 392 00:16:20,164 --> 00:16:22,814 I'm hoping it means you're ready for a change. 393 00:16:22,816 --> 00:16:24,116 Oh, what is that supposed to mean? 394 00:16:24,118 --> 00:16:26,651 I'm leaving CBI. 395 00:16:26,653 --> 00:16:29,487 I've lined up some capital. I'm starting my own firm. 396 00:16:29,489 --> 00:16:33,125 Security and investigations for high-end clients. 397 00:16:33,127 --> 00:16:36,144 I was wondering if you'd consider coming with me. 398 00:16:36,146 --> 00:16:37,329 Right. 399 00:16:37,331 --> 00:16:38,630 You're one of the top agents in the division. 400 00:16:38,632 --> 00:16:39,998 Everyone knows it. 401 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,384 You—you deserve a position commensurate with your gifts. 402 00:16:42,386 --> 00:16:44,887 I am flattered, Ray, but I like my job. 403 00:16:44,889 --> 00:16:46,438 Yeah, I like my job, too. 404 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:48,974 I'd like it better if I'd had a raise in the past three years. 405 00:16:48,976 --> 00:16:51,176 California's broke, if you didn't notice. 406 00:16:51,178 --> 00:16:52,644 It's not about the money. 407 00:16:54,530 --> 00:16:57,065 That's the starting salary. 408 00:16:59,702 --> 00:17:03,822 That'll keep you in leather jackets, I think. 409 00:17:03,824 --> 00:17:07,542 It's not about the money. I like what I do. 410 00:17:07,544 --> 00:17:09,211 It's a good job. It's good work. 411 00:17:09,213 --> 00:17:11,713 Is it the work, or is it Jane? 412 00:17:11,715 --> 00:17:13,531 He's part of the work. 413 00:17:13,533 --> 00:17:16,551 Sure. And you guys—you guys have a track record, 414 00:17:16,553 --> 00:17:18,370 I-I understand why you wanna stick with that. 415 00:17:18,372 --> 00:17:21,089 But if there's one thing that I've learned about Jane, 416 00:17:21,091 --> 00:17:23,508 it's that catching bad guys is a game to him, 417 00:17:23,510 --> 00:17:25,477 and—and he's gonna quit someday. 418 00:17:25,479 --> 00:17:27,429 Maybe because he gets Red John, 419 00:17:27,431 --> 00:17:29,264 maybe because—what— he just gets bored. 420 00:17:29,266 --> 00:17:31,216 When that happens, you're gonna be on your own. 421 00:17:31,218 --> 00:17:34,069 Driving out to some crime scene 422 00:17:34,071 --> 00:17:36,104 in the middle of nowhere at 5:00 a.m., 423 00:17:36,106 --> 00:17:39,608 asking Rigsby what sort of sad story 424 00:17:39,610 --> 00:17:41,526 you gotta unravel this time. 425 00:17:44,364 --> 00:17:46,665 Is that what you really want? 426 00:17:49,085 --> 00:17:51,420 Because I think you deserve better. 427 00:17:51,422 --> 00:17:53,171 Think about it. 428 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:08,720 Mr. Crayhew? 429 00:18:13,559 --> 00:18:16,928 Mr. Crayhew, we're with CBI. Open up, please! 430 00:18:16,930 --> 00:18:18,430 I will not be bullied! 431 00:18:18,432 --> 00:18:19,898 Put the gun down. 432 00:18:19,900 --> 00:18:21,933 You cannot make a man render unto Caesar 433 00:18:21,935 --> 00:18:23,869 that which he does not choose to render. 434 00:18:23,871 --> 00:18:25,287 What? 435 00:18:25,289 --> 00:18:26,538 Sir, whatever the problem is, 436 00:18:26,540 --> 00:18:28,991 we can work it out. Just put the gun away. 437 00:18:28,993 --> 00:18:30,942 Federal income tax is an illegal taking 438 00:18:30,944 --> 00:18:33,462 under the Fifth Amendment of the United States Constitution, 439 00:18:33,464 --> 00:18:34,796 and I will not pay it! 440 00:18:34,798 --> 00:18:36,298 Sir, we're not with the I.R.S. 441 00:18:36,300 --> 00:18:36,888 Says you. 442 00:18:36,913 --> 00:18:38,418 We have nothing to do with your taxes. 443 00:18:38,419 --> 00:18:40,919 We wanna talk about some killings at a nearby farm. 444 00:18:42,805 --> 00:18:45,474 You're not federal agents? 445 00:18:45,476 --> 00:18:46,591 You're not here to collect? 446 00:18:46,593 --> 00:18:49,928 No, sir. California Bureau of Investigation. 447 00:18:49,930 --> 00:18:52,264 Now put the gun down. Do it now. 448 00:18:55,518 --> 00:18:58,520 Yeah, I remember those clowns from Visualize. 449 00:18:58,522 --> 00:19:01,523 That land's right next to mine. 450 00:19:01,525 --> 00:19:03,158 Killed everything they—they touched. 451 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,943 Plus they were thieves. 452 00:19:04,945 --> 00:19:06,528 Why thieves? 453 00:19:06,530 --> 00:19:09,147 Well, they stole my damn water. 454 00:19:09,149 --> 00:19:11,199 I got a stream up that way. 455 00:19:11,201 --> 00:19:13,085 They diverted it into their fields, 456 00:19:13,087 --> 00:19:14,870 like I wouldn't notice. 457 00:19:14,872 --> 00:19:20,292 So me and my 12-gauge went to talk it over with them. 458 00:19:20,294 --> 00:19:23,595 I told those wackadoodles to stop stealing my water, 459 00:19:23,597 --> 00:19:25,297 and one of 'em pulled a revolver. 460 00:19:25,299 --> 00:19:27,382 I thought we were gonna have a shooting right there. 461 00:19:27,384 --> 00:19:28,833 Do you recall what kind of revolver it was? 462 00:19:28,835 --> 00:19:30,018 Nope. 463 00:19:30,020 --> 00:19:35,057 Was one of these... the man that threatened you? 464 00:19:39,695 --> 00:19:42,814 It was that one. 465 00:19:42,816 --> 00:19:47,652 He was wound up. Had that look, you know? 466 00:19:47,654 --> 00:19:49,488 Just ready to go. 467 00:19:49,490 --> 00:19:51,706 I truly thought I was gonna have to shoot him right there. 468 00:19:51,708 --> 00:19:55,026 But I didn't. 469 00:19:55,028 --> 00:19:58,830 I didn't. I swear to God. 470 00:19:58,832 --> 00:20:02,050 But I don't condemn whoever did shoot him, though. 471 00:20:02,052 --> 00:20:04,536 You've heard how they treated their animals? 472 00:20:04,538 --> 00:20:05,720 No. How? 473 00:20:05,722 --> 00:20:10,425 They... tortured 'em, basically. 474 00:20:10,427 --> 00:20:12,811 Unnatural stuff. 475 00:20:12,813 --> 00:20:14,262 Satanic ritual stuff. 476 00:20:14,264 --> 00:20:16,148 Really? You know that for a fact? 477 00:20:16,150 --> 00:20:18,216 If you don't believe me, talk to the Vet. 478 00:20:18,218 --> 00:20:20,268 She was on 'em all the time 479 00:20:20,270 --> 00:20:23,155 about how they were treating their stock. 480 00:20:23,157 --> 00:20:25,056 She was ready to call the county on 'em. 481 00:20:25,058 --> 00:20:27,025 And what's this vet's name? 482 00:20:27,027 --> 00:20:28,577 I think she retired now. 483 00:20:28,579 --> 00:20:30,779 Mm. 484 00:20:30,781 --> 00:20:33,198 Preston. That's it. 485 00:20:39,872 --> 00:20:41,123 Hello, Lisbon. 486 00:20:41,125 --> 00:20:43,675 Are you ever gonna let me in there again? 487 00:20:43,677 --> 00:20:44,909 How was lunch? 488 00:20:44,911 --> 00:20:47,629 Lovely. Haffner offered me a job. 489 00:20:51,251 --> 00:20:52,601 Really? 490 00:20:52,603 --> 00:20:53,552 You gonna take it? 491 00:20:53,554 --> 00:20:55,137 Right now I'm considering it. 492 00:20:55,139 --> 00:20:57,389 Come on. We have to go talk to the Vet. 493 00:20:58,308 --> 00:21:00,976 Oh, my God. 494 00:21:13,573 --> 00:21:16,374 This one's for Doug. 495 00:21:16,376 --> 00:21:17,659 Dr. Ellen Preston? 496 00:21:17,661 --> 00:21:19,411 Oh, uh, no, I'm... 497 00:21:19,413 --> 00:21:22,164 Dr. Preston's my mom. I'm Holly Preston. 498 00:21:22,166 --> 00:21:23,999 Holly. Pretty good with those dogs. 499 00:21:24,001 --> 00:21:26,334 Oh, well, thanks. I should be. 500 00:21:26,336 --> 00:21:29,304 I'm with them all day. I run a doggy day care. 501 00:21:29,306 --> 00:21:31,139 Is there something I can do for you? 502 00:21:31,141 --> 00:21:32,557 We're with the CBI. 503 00:21:32,559 --> 00:21:34,559 We need to ask your mother some questions. 504 00:21:35,762 --> 00:21:36,794 Oh. 505 00:21:36,796 --> 00:21:38,796 Is that a problem? 506 00:21:38,798 --> 00:21:41,516 She was diagnosed with Alzheimer's 507 00:21:41,518 --> 00:21:43,568 about eight years ago. 508 00:21:43,570 --> 00:21:44,969 She still responds, 509 00:21:44,971 --> 00:21:47,572 but she's not very good at talking to people anymore. 510 00:21:47,574 --> 00:21:49,324 I'm sorry. 511 00:21:49,326 --> 00:21:50,808 Oh, don't be. 512 00:21:50,810 --> 00:21:52,027 She looks peaceful. 513 00:21:52,029 --> 00:21:54,329 She is... mostly. 514 00:21:54,331 --> 00:21:55,413 You've probably heard 515 00:21:55,415 --> 00:21:57,616 we found three bodies on a nearby farm. 516 00:21:57,618 --> 00:21:59,284 25 years ago, the farm was owned 517 00:21:59,286 --> 00:22:02,454 by a church called Visualize. Does that ring a bell? 518 00:22:02,456 --> 00:22:05,790 I've heard about them. They made kind of a splash. 519 00:22:05,792 --> 00:22:08,593 Hi, little boy. Who's a good boy? 520 00:22:08,595 --> 00:22:10,712 Yeah. Oh, he likes that. You like that? 521 00:22:10,714 --> 00:22:13,498 Is... that what you wanted to talk to my mom about? 522 00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:14,966 We heard that she was concerned 523 00:22:14,968 --> 00:22:17,135 about the way some of the animals were being treated. 524 00:22:17,137 --> 00:22:18,803 We just wanted to know what that was about. 525 00:22:18,805 --> 00:22:22,173 Rumor has it they were performing satanic rituals. 526 00:22:22,175 --> 00:22:25,110 What? We'd heard there may have been 527 00:22:25,112 --> 00:22:28,146 some unnatural acts going on. 528 00:22:28,148 --> 00:22:30,532 Have you been talking to Tom Crayhew? 529 00:22:30,534 --> 00:22:32,350 Why? Does it sound like him? 530 00:22:32,352 --> 00:22:34,236 Oh, exactly like him. 531 00:22:34,238 --> 00:22:38,156 I would remember if my mom thought something was happening. 532 00:22:38,158 --> 00:22:39,708 There were no rituals. 533 00:22:39,710 --> 00:22:41,576 I think my mom was just concerned 534 00:22:41,578 --> 00:22:43,578 that the farm was failing. 535 00:22:43,580 --> 00:22:45,363 People take it out on the animals 536 00:22:45,365 --> 00:22:46,298 once a place goes south. 537 00:22:46,300 --> 00:22:48,366 Did you ever go up there? No. 538 00:22:48,368 --> 00:22:51,419 I was 16, and I was all about boys then. 539 00:22:51,421 --> 00:22:54,556 I wouldn't go to the farm with my mom if I could avoid it. 540 00:22:54,558 --> 00:22:56,374 Well, all the academic achievements 541 00:22:56,376 --> 00:22:59,094 suggest you were focused on a little more than just boys. 542 00:22:59,096 --> 00:23:01,313 Well, maybe now and then, 543 00:23:01,315 --> 00:23:05,400 but that was a long time ago. 544 00:23:05,402 --> 00:23:07,936 Is that all you wanted to ask about? 545 00:23:07,938 --> 00:23:10,021 Yes. Yeah. Thank you for your time. 546 00:23:10,023 --> 00:23:12,524 Jane. Jane. Yes. Who's that, huh? 547 00:23:12,526 --> 00:23:15,393 Is that good? That's really good. 548 00:23:15,395 --> 00:23:17,662 Jane? That's really good. 549 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,403 Agent Van Pelt? Yes? 550 00:23:25,405 --> 00:23:27,238 Father Peter Dibuono. You asked to see me? 551 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,457 Obviously, I haven't been a member 552 00:23:29,459 --> 00:23:30,842 of Visualize for some time. 553 00:23:30,844 --> 00:23:34,412 If I were to be kind to my younger self, 554 00:23:34,414 --> 00:23:36,581 I would say that my time with them 555 00:23:36,583 --> 00:23:40,135 was an early stage in a long spiritual journey. 556 00:23:40,137 --> 00:23:41,636 What if you weren't being kind? 557 00:23:41,638 --> 00:23:43,688 I was a stupid punk who didn't know any better. 558 00:23:43,690 --> 00:23:47,058 Bret Stiles says a lot of things that sound good 559 00:23:47,060 --> 00:23:49,311 if you don't think about 'em too hard. 560 00:23:49,313 --> 00:23:51,095 Some of what he says makes sense, though. 561 00:23:51,097 --> 00:23:55,950 Yes. And there's a core of truth in every good lie. 562 00:23:55,952 --> 00:23:58,119 All that talk about self-actualization 563 00:23:58,121 --> 00:24:00,155 can be very, very seductive. 564 00:24:00,157 --> 00:24:02,907 Oh, it's not just seduction. What's wrong with wanting to be 565 00:24:02,909 --> 00:24:05,327 the most powerful version of you you can be? 566 00:24:05,329 --> 00:24:06,745 If you were a good person, 567 00:24:06,747 --> 00:24:08,580 it would just make you an even better one. 568 00:24:08,582 --> 00:24:11,949 Well, it depends on how you look at it, I guess. 569 00:24:11,951 --> 00:24:14,469 You wanted to ask me about the Elliston farm? 570 00:24:14,471 --> 00:24:15,787 You worked there, right? 571 00:24:15,789 --> 00:24:19,257 No, I ran it. From mid-'86 to late '87. 572 00:24:19,259 --> 00:24:21,309 That was a crazy time. 573 00:24:21,311 --> 00:24:23,061 There was a lot of pressure from Visualize 574 00:24:23,063 --> 00:24:24,396 to make that place work. 575 00:24:24,398 --> 00:24:27,232 We just didn't have the people or the expertise. 576 00:24:27,234 --> 00:24:30,568 And that's why they brought Bradovich in to take over. 577 00:24:30,570 --> 00:24:31,820 Lester Bradovich? 578 00:24:31,822 --> 00:24:34,939 Mm-hmm, and Lester— he was a true believer. 579 00:24:34,941 --> 00:24:37,525 He worked people insanely hard— 580 00:24:37,527 --> 00:24:38,910 18, 20 hours a day. 581 00:24:38,912 --> 00:24:43,248 No one lasted long except for him, Talbot and Charney. 582 00:24:43,250 --> 00:24:47,252 After I left, um, I heard— this is just a rumor— 583 00:24:47,254 --> 00:24:50,321 that—that Lester had been giving people drugs 584 00:24:50,323 --> 00:24:52,757 to keep them working when they were tired. 585 00:24:52,759 --> 00:24:53,842 What kind of drugs? 586 00:24:53,844 --> 00:24:55,210 I don't know. I don't know. 587 00:24:55,212 --> 00:24:57,495 Speed, I would guess. 588 00:24:57,497 --> 00:24:59,047 But he must have been desperate, 589 00:24:59,049 --> 00:25:01,466 because there were so many ex-addicts 590 00:25:01,468 --> 00:25:02,550 in the church at that time 591 00:25:02,552 --> 00:25:05,937 that Visualize was very strict about drugs. 592 00:25:05,939 --> 00:25:07,605 If he couldn't get the drugs from the church, 593 00:25:07,607 --> 00:25:08,840 where would he get 'em? 594 00:25:08,842 --> 00:25:11,443 I have no idea. 595 00:25:12,762 --> 00:25:15,647 Father Dibuono. Uh, Patrick Jane. 596 00:25:15,649 --> 00:25:17,782 Uh, Agent Van Pelt told me you used to work 597 00:25:17,784 --> 00:25:19,200 on the Elliston farm. 598 00:25:19,202 --> 00:25:20,184 That's right. 599 00:25:20,186 --> 00:25:22,353 May I show you something? 600 00:25:22,355 --> 00:25:24,038 Do you know what that is? 601 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,292 Uh, sure. Yeah, I saw that. 602 00:25:27,294 --> 00:25:29,711 When? 603 00:25:29,713 --> 00:25:31,296 A few months after I left the farm, 604 00:25:31,298 --> 00:25:33,865 I, uh, I went back for a visit, 605 00:25:33,867 --> 00:25:35,884 and that's when I saw it. 606 00:25:35,886 --> 00:25:37,919 Talbot said that some kid who worked on the farm— 607 00:25:37,921 --> 00:25:39,053 he did it. 608 00:25:39,055 --> 00:25:40,805 "Some kid," that's all he said about it? 609 00:25:40,807 --> 00:25:42,424 Yeah, yeah. Some kid. 610 00:25:42,426 --> 00:25:44,592 How old was Talbot? 611 00:25:44,594 --> 00:25:46,594 Uh, 50-something? 612 00:25:46,596 --> 00:25:52,216 Ah. So anyone under the age of 30 could be "some kid". 613 00:25:52,218 --> 00:25:55,437 You know, I asked Talbot what it meant, 614 00:25:55,439 --> 00:25:56,438 the smiley face. 615 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,222 He said, "what does anything mean?" 616 00:25:58,224 --> 00:25:59,657 Hmm. 617 00:25:59,659 --> 00:26:05,062 But he said it with this really deranged expression on his face. 618 00:26:05,064 --> 00:26:08,199 There was a bad vibe about that place. 619 00:26:08,201 --> 00:26:10,568 Evil. 620 00:26:10,570 --> 00:26:14,339 I didn't spend more than half an hour there, 621 00:26:14,341 --> 00:26:15,373 and I never went back. 622 00:26:15,375 --> 00:26:17,425 And you've never seen that image 623 00:26:17,427 --> 00:26:19,076 anywhere else ever since? 624 00:26:19,078 --> 00:26:22,630 No. No. But I've been out of the country a lot. 625 00:26:22,632 --> 00:26:26,250 - Missionary work. - Central America. 626 00:26:27,853 --> 00:26:29,304 Is something the matter, Mr. Jane? 627 00:26:29,306 --> 00:26:32,724 No. No, not at all. Appreciate your time. 628 00:26:47,721 --> 00:26:49,122 When the murders occurred, 629 00:26:49,124 --> 00:26:51,958 Bradovich was pushing the farm workers as hard as possible. 630 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,184 They were stealing water from neighboring farms, 631 00:26:54,284 --> 00:26:56,450 and still failing to make the farm produce. 632 00:26:56,452 --> 00:26:58,586 How does any of that get the three of them killed? 633 00:26:58,588 --> 00:26:59,671 Well, I checked on Crayhew. 634 00:26:59,673 --> 00:27:01,189 He spent some time with a right-wing militia 635 00:27:01,191 --> 00:27:02,323 in the mid-'80s. 636 00:27:02,325 --> 00:27:03,491 The county sheriff still thinks 637 00:27:03,493 --> 00:27:04,659 he's got a lot more guns on that farm. 638 00:27:04,661 --> 00:27:06,010 It wouldn't surprise me. 639 00:27:06,012 --> 00:27:08,146 What about the forensics team that was searching the farm? 640 00:27:08,148 --> 00:27:09,597 Did they come up with anything? 641 00:27:09,599 --> 00:27:12,150 Nothing yet. They're still looking. Stay on 'em. 642 00:27:12,152 --> 00:27:14,635 I'm interested in the drugs the good father mentioned. 643 00:27:14,637 --> 00:27:16,187 He said it was just a rumor. 644 00:27:16,189 --> 00:27:18,072 Well, if Bradovich is working them around the clock, 645 00:27:18,074 --> 00:27:20,908 I'm betting they had a little chemical help. 646 00:27:20,910 --> 00:27:22,360 And if they didn't get it from Visualize, 647 00:27:22,362 --> 00:27:24,112 then where did they get it from? 648 00:27:24,114 --> 00:27:25,029 Who knows? 649 00:27:25,031 --> 00:27:27,282 Everyone who could tell us is dead. 650 00:27:27,284 --> 00:27:29,584 Not everyone. 651 00:27:30,836 --> 00:27:33,504 Hmm. Nope. 652 00:27:33,506 --> 00:27:35,757 Don't remember any of 'em. 653 00:27:35,759 --> 00:27:38,626 - Of course, I was just... - 17 at the time. 654 00:27:38,628 --> 00:27:42,046 Not likely to run into boys like these. 655 00:27:42,048 --> 00:27:45,166 And, uh, as far as drug deals in 1988, 656 00:27:45,168 --> 00:27:47,385 I couldn't tell you anything about that. 657 00:27:47,387 --> 00:27:50,605 Wasn't bustin' drug dealers quite yet. 658 00:27:50,607 --> 00:27:51,522 Hmm. 659 00:27:51,524 --> 00:27:53,141 Would your office have any record 660 00:27:53,143 --> 00:27:54,942 of drug arrests back then? 661 00:27:54,944 --> 00:27:57,395 A lot of the old files have been archived. 662 00:27:57,397 --> 00:27:59,530 They're in some warehouse in Fresno. 663 00:27:59,532 --> 00:28:01,532 I can send somebody to go look, 664 00:28:01,534 --> 00:28:03,401 but it's gonna— it's gonna take a while. 665 00:28:03,403 --> 00:28:04,902 Hmm. Could do that. 666 00:28:04,904 --> 00:28:07,705 Or you could just tell us what drugs you sold 'em. 667 00:28:07,707 --> 00:28:09,374 Excuse me? 668 00:28:09,376 --> 00:28:11,042 You were dealing drugs back then, weren't you? 669 00:28:11,044 --> 00:28:12,243 And they were clients. 670 00:28:12,245 --> 00:28:14,629 Whatever gives you the idea that I dealt drugs? 671 00:28:14,631 --> 00:28:17,298 You're self-indulgent. You're corrupt. 672 00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:19,467 You pretended not to know Bradovich 673 00:28:19,469 --> 00:28:21,469 when clearly, you recognize him. 674 00:28:21,471 --> 00:28:23,588 You knew we were gonna talk about drugs. 675 00:28:23,590 --> 00:28:25,373 So why lie about not selling 'em? 676 00:28:25,375 --> 00:28:27,141 Look, I'm—I'm not sitting still for this, okay? 677 00:28:27,143 --> 00:28:30,044 You withhold information from us during this investigation, 678 00:28:30,046 --> 00:28:31,846 it's considered obstruction of justice. 679 00:28:31,848 --> 00:28:33,681 They'll take your badge for that. 680 00:28:33,683 --> 00:28:36,217 You might have to start paying for that chili verde. 681 00:28:43,909 --> 00:28:47,578 I might have dealt a little in high school. 682 00:28:47,580 --> 00:28:49,864 Lot of people did, okay? It wasn't no big deal. 683 00:28:49,866 --> 00:28:51,899 And by the way, I'm pretty sure 684 00:28:51,901 --> 00:28:55,069 the statute of limitations has expired on that. 685 00:28:55,071 --> 00:28:57,505 Did you sell drugs to Bradovich? 686 00:28:57,507 --> 00:29:00,425 This is between us, right? 687 00:29:00,427 --> 00:29:02,076 Law officer to law officer? 688 00:29:02,078 --> 00:29:03,577 Chief... 689 00:29:05,631 --> 00:29:08,883 He was looking for speed to keep his people working. 690 00:29:08,885 --> 00:29:11,085 I sold him some. 691 00:29:11,087 --> 00:29:13,855 But right away, he came back for more. 692 00:29:13,857 --> 00:29:15,723 A lot more. 693 00:29:15,725 --> 00:29:18,426 I didn't have the kind of quantity he wanted, 694 00:29:18,428 --> 00:29:22,730 so I put him in touch with some serious guys I knew in Stockton. 695 00:29:22,732 --> 00:29:24,899 Scary dudes. 696 00:29:24,901 --> 00:29:26,818 Hell, maybe they killed 'em. 697 00:29:29,121 --> 00:29:32,373 I'm gonna need those names. 698 00:29:38,881 --> 00:29:41,449 Two of the drug dealers Anaya gave us are dead. 699 00:29:41,451 --> 00:29:43,284 The other one's on death row in Texas. 700 00:29:43,286 --> 00:29:45,269 I've got a call in to the Department of Corrections 701 00:29:45,271 --> 00:29:46,304 to see if I can interview him. 702 00:29:46,306 --> 00:29:48,289 Oh, remember the missing bullet 703 00:29:48,291 --> 00:29:50,224 from the gun we found near the bodies? 704 00:29:50,226 --> 00:29:51,959 Techs finally found it. 705 00:29:51,961 --> 00:29:54,512 It was buried in the dirt in front of the barn. 706 00:29:54,514 --> 00:29:56,230 Like somebody had shot into the ground. 707 00:29:56,232 --> 00:29:57,298 Where outside the barn? 708 00:29:57,300 --> 00:29:58,933 Right in front of the big painted face. 709 00:29:58,935 --> 00:30:00,351 Hmm. 710 00:30:00,353 --> 00:30:01,686 So what do you think? 711 00:30:01,688 --> 00:30:03,137 Should I go to Texas and talk to this guy? 712 00:30:03,139 --> 00:30:05,673 By all means, take a trek to the Lone Star state. 713 00:30:05,675 --> 00:30:08,526 But I think I can solve this case quicker. 714 00:30:08,528 --> 00:30:09,777 How? 715 00:30:09,779 --> 00:30:12,196 Get everyone we've interviewed to Ella's Diner 716 00:30:12,198 --> 00:30:13,631 first thing tomorrow morning. 717 00:30:13,633 --> 00:30:14,949 Well, why the diner? 718 00:30:14,951 --> 00:30:17,034 For the coffee, of course. 719 00:30:22,958 --> 00:30:24,425 Hey, Ray. 720 00:30:24,427 --> 00:30:27,178 Hey. I was, uh, just checking in. 721 00:30:27,180 --> 00:30:28,662 Seeing if you had a chance to think about the offer. 722 00:30:28,664 --> 00:30:30,715 I think you already know my answer. 723 00:30:30,717 --> 00:30:33,167 You're missing out on something big. 724 00:30:33,169 --> 00:30:34,519 I'm sure I am. 725 00:30:34,521 --> 00:30:36,938 How's the case? You getting anywhere? 726 00:30:36,940 --> 00:30:38,189 We're making progress. 727 00:30:38,191 --> 00:30:39,640 Did you get anything from the stuff Cooper sent down? 728 00:30:39,642 --> 00:30:41,842 No, not much. 729 00:30:41,844 --> 00:30:43,010 Hmm. 730 00:30:44,846 --> 00:30:49,033 Ray, Jason Cooper's name isn't on that board. 731 00:30:49,035 --> 00:30:50,234 So? 732 00:30:50,236 --> 00:30:54,455 How did you know that he sent us material? 733 00:30:54,457 --> 00:30:56,524 Someone on your team must have told me. 734 00:30:56,526 --> 00:31:00,077 No one else knew except myself and Jane. 735 00:31:02,181 --> 00:31:04,698 Did somebody from the church tell you? 736 00:31:06,502 --> 00:31:08,085 Ray? 737 00:31:08,087 --> 00:31:09,720 Are you a member of Visualize? 738 00:31:11,890 --> 00:31:15,142 As a matter of fact, I am. 739 00:31:15,144 --> 00:31:16,544 I don't talk about it much. 740 00:31:16,546 --> 00:31:18,596 People tend to take it the wrong way— 741 00:31:18,598 --> 00:31:20,648 the way that you're taking it right now, I think. 742 00:31:20,650 --> 00:31:21,766 Oh, that's not true. 743 00:31:21,768 --> 00:31:22,934 Really? 744 00:31:22,936 --> 00:31:24,602 No. 745 00:31:24,604 --> 00:31:27,688 Look, I was a screwed-up kid. 746 00:31:27,690 --> 00:31:29,657 I was headed down a bad path, 747 00:31:29,659 --> 00:31:31,659 and some people from Visualize took an interest 748 00:31:31,661 --> 00:31:34,362 and helped straighten me out. 749 00:31:34,364 --> 00:31:38,416 I-I-I don't think that Bret Stiles is God. 750 00:31:38,418 --> 00:31:41,569 You know, he just happens to say some things that I believe. 751 00:31:41,571 --> 00:31:44,088 The money to fund your agency— 752 00:31:44,090 --> 00:31:45,373 is that coming from Visualize? 753 00:31:45,375 --> 00:31:47,124 Some, not all. 754 00:31:48,861 --> 00:31:50,545 Teresa, stop looking at me 755 00:31:50,547 --> 00:31:51,912 like I just turned into a robot. 756 00:31:51,914 --> 00:31:54,931 It's just me. 757 00:33:14,110 --> 00:33:15,512 Just in time, Lisbon. 758 00:33:15,513 --> 00:33:17,347 Morning, Jane. Nice party. 759 00:33:17,349 --> 00:33:18,765 Can I get some of that coffee? 760 00:33:18,767 --> 00:33:19,716 Nope. 761 00:33:19,718 --> 00:33:21,968 This is only for the suspects. 762 00:33:21,970 --> 00:33:23,419 What? For who? 763 00:33:23,421 --> 00:33:25,221 What did you say? That's right. 764 00:33:25,223 --> 00:33:26,356 You're all here 765 00:33:26,358 --> 00:33:28,975 because one of you killed Lester Bradovich, 766 00:33:28,977 --> 00:33:32,562 Martin Talbot, and Allen Charney. 767 00:33:32,564 --> 00:33:35,114 Why would I kill three members of my own church? 768 00:33:35,116 --> 00:33:36,699 Well, because the farm was failing, 769 00:33:36,701 --> 00:33:38,484 and Bret Stiles didn't want that to happen. 770 00:33:38,486 --> 00:33:39,702 But maybe it wasn't you. 771 00:33:39,704 --> 00:33:42,622 Mr. Bradovich here was angry with his brother 772 00:33:42,624 --> 00:33:43,906 for abandoning his family. 773 00:33:43,908 --> 00:33:47,109 Even if I was, why would I kill the other two guys? 774 00:33:47,111 --> 00:33:49,462 Who knows how a homicidal maniac thinks? 775 00:33:49,464 --> 00:33:51,414 Homicidal maniac? 776 00:33:51,416 --> 00:33:53,666 I was 16, Mr. Jane. 777 00:33:53,668 --> 00:33:55,117 Yes, but your mother was an adult, 778 00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:56,669 and she was angry with the farmers 779 00:33:56,671 --> 00:33:58,721 over how they were treating the animals. 780 00:33:58,723 --> 00:34:02,508 Are you seriously saying my mother killed these people? 781 00:34:02,510 --> 00:34:04,344 You're right. Maybe it was the priest. 782 00:34:04,346 --> 00:34:07,296 He was angry because he was displaced as the farm's leader. 783 00:34:07,298 --> 00:34:08,665 No, I wasn't. 784 00:34:08,667 --> 00:34:11,467 Then there's the angry farmer and the police chief. 785 00:34:11,469 --> 00:34:14,804 Whoever did this, it was definitely one of you, 786 00:34:14,806 --> 00:34:16,972 and in a moment, we're gonna find out which one. 787 00:34:16,974 --> 00:34:19,141 But first... 788 00:34:19,143 --> 00:34:22,612 more coffee, anyone? 789 00:34:22,614 --> 00:34:23,946 No. 790 00:34:23,948 --> 00:34:27,383 No. No. No. No. Mom. Mom. 791 00:34:27,385 --> 00:34:28,368 No, no, no. Mom... 792 00:34:28,370 --> 00:34:30,169 Mom, take it easy. 793 00:34:30,171 --> 00:34:32,038 What's her problem? Why's she so upset? 794 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,841 She recognizes the symbol. There was one at the farm. 795 00:34:34,843 --> 00:34:37,043 You mean the face on the barn? Right. 796 00:34:37,045 --> 00:34:38,344 And she knows what happened underneath it. 797 00:34:38,346 --> 00:34:39,712 Are you saying she's the killer? 798 00:34:39,714 --> 00:34:41,798 We're gonna have to ask your mother some questions. 799 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,049 No. You can't. 800 00:34:43,051 --> 00:34:44,384 Ms. Preston, you got no choice. 801 00:34:44,386 --> 00:34:45,334 She won't understand. 802 00:34:45,336 --> 00:34:47,270 Well, we're gonna have to try. 803 00:34:47,272 --> 00:34:48,287 Come on. We'll treat her right. 804 00:34:48,289 --> 00:34:49,889 No. It's not her. 805 00:34:49,891 --> 00:34:52,558 It's me. 806 00:34:54,061 --> 00:34:56,011 It's me. 807 00:34:56,013 --> 00:34:59,949 You thought it was me when we met, didn't you? 808 00:34:59,951 --> 00:35:02,518 I thought that was a possibility. 809 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,686 Young woman, high-achieving, 810 00:35:03,688 --> 00:35:06,322 ends up running a doggy day care. 811 00:35:06,324 --> 00:35:08,991 Suggested something went wrong along the way. 812 00:35:08,993 --> 00:35:11,694 Yeah. 813 00:35:11,696 --> 00:35:14,630 That sounds about right. 814 00:35:17,655 --> 00:35:22,775 My mother was concerned about the Visualize farm. 815 00:35:22,777 --> 00:35:28,063 I was riding along when she made a visit in the area. 816 00:35:28,065 --> 00:35:30,783 And she said she wanted to check on them 817 00:35:30,785 --> 00:35:33,920 to see what was going on. 818 00:35:34,672 --> 00:35:36,423 It had rained that day... 819 00:35:36,425 --> 00:35:38,792 So the ground was wet. 820 00:35:42,413 --> 00:35:45,682 You stay here. I'll be just a minute. 821 00:35:51,588 --> 00:35:54,474 Next thing I knew, I heard someone shouting. 822 00:35:54,476 --> 00:35:55,759 Don't tell me what to do! 823 00:35:55,761 --> 00:35:56,943 There are laws. 824 00:35:56,945 --> 00:35:58,228 I don't care about any of your laws! 825 00:35:58,230 --> 00:35:59,195 Laws that say this animal 826 00:35:59,197 --> 00:36:00,864 has to be fed and taken care of! 827 00:36:00,866 --> 00:36:03,366 And if you won't take care of it, I will report you! 828 00:36:03,368 --> 00:36:05,919 I... I should... 829 00:36:05,921 --> 00:36:07,770 You want me to take care of it? Fine! 830 00:36:07,772 --> 00:36:09,372 I'll take care of it! 831 00:36:11,626 --> 00:36:16,612 He looked so crazy. Just out of his mind. 832 00:36:16,614 --> 00:36:18,498 Well, he was amped up on speed. 833 00:36:18,500 --> 00:36:20,333 He'd been sleep-deprived for weeks. 834 00:36:20,335 --> 00:36:22,702 He was out of his mind. 835 00:36:22,704 --> 00:36:24,387 What happened next? 836 00:36:24,389 --> 00:36:26,639 Oh, you son of a bitch! 837 00:36:29,294 --> 00:36:30,727 Mom! 838 00:36:35,150 --> 00:36:38,434 I thought he was gonna kill my mother. 839 00:36:38,436 --> 00:36:40,186 I had to do something. 840 00:36:40,188 --> 00:36:42,071 Hey! 841 00:36:42,073 --> 00:36:44,023 Get off her! 842 00:36:44,025 --> 00:36:45,525 Hey! 843 00:36:49,948 --> 00:36:52,982 I-I don't understand... 844 00:36:52,984 --> 00:36:55,852 Where were Charney and Talbot? How did they get shot? 845 00:36:55,854 --> 00:36:58,204 I don't know. 846 00:36:59,540 --> 00:37:00,990 What? 847 00:37:00,992 --> 00:37:06,629 I-I don't know anything about them, I swear. I... 848 00:37:06,631 --> 00:37:08,131 It wasn't me. 849 00:37:08,133 --> 00:37:10,466 What wasn't you? 850 00:37:12,002 --> 00:37:14,687 Holly? 851 00:37:14,689 --> 00:37:16,856 What happened when you hid the body? 852 00:37:19,777 --> 00:37:23,012 My mother was sure I could go to jail. 853 00:37:23,014 --> 00:37:25,114 And she couldn't let that happen. 854 00:37:25,116 --> 00:37:27,016 She wouldn't let that happen. 855 00:37:27,018 --> 00:37:32,539 She knew there was a basement in the barn. 856 00:37:32,541 --> 00:37:34,908 So we went down there, 857 00:37:34,910 --> 00:37:37,794 and that's when we found the other two. 858 00:37:40,664 --> 00:37:44,133 Talbot and Charney's bodies were already there? 859 00:37:44,135 --> 00:37:47,303 I-I guess it was them. 860 00:37:47,305 --> 00:37:49,505 Did you see anything else? Anything at all? 861 00:37:49,507 --> 00:37:50,506 No. 862 00:37:50,508 --> 00:37:52,642 After we dumped the body, 863 00:37:52,644 --> 00:37:54,377 we got out of there as fast as we could. 864 00:37:54,379 --> 00:37:59,265 I had a feeling... 865 00:37:59,267 --> 00:38:03,186 Someone was there with us. 866 00:38:06,357 --> 00:38:09,108 Someone was watching us. 867 00:38:17,751 --> 00:38:19,502 Hey. You got a second? 868 00:38:19,504 --> 00:38:20,920 Sure. 869 00:38:20,922 --> 00:38:24,757 Word is Holly Preston's only gonna face manslaughter charges 870 00:38:24,759 --> 00:38:26,709 for the homicides. That true? 871 00:38:26,711 --> 00:38:29,412 We suggested it to the D.D.A., and he agreed. 872 00:38:29,414 --> 00:38:30,413 Really? 873 00:38:30,415 --> 00:38:31,965 She claims she did it in self-defense, 874 00:38:31,967 --> 00:38:34,083 and we believed her. She'll serve time. 875 00:38:34,085 --> 00:38:35,351 Three guys got killed. 876 00:38:35,353 --> 00:38:37,720 She only killed one of them, and it was in self-defense. 877 00:38:37,722 --> 00:38:38,972 That's what she says. 878 00:38:38,974 --> 00:38:41,274 Are you in the business of taking killers at their word? 879 00:38:41,276 --> 00:38:42,525 I believe her. 880 00:38:42,527 --> 00:38:46,429 Did someone from Visualize ask you to talk to me? 881 00:38:46,431 --> 00:38:48,147 Because you've never come to my office 882 00:38:48,149 --> 00:38:50,116 and questioned my arrests before. 883 00:38:50,118 --> 00:38:52,535 Yeah, I might have gotten some calls. 884 00:38:52,537 --> 00:38:53,536 Might've heard some concern 885 00:38:53,538 --> 00:38:55,238 that you pushed for lighter sentences 886 00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:57,156 because the victims were church, 887 00:38:57,158 --> 00:38:59,075 and maybe you don't like the church. 888 00:38:59,077 --> 00:39:00,710 Absolutely not. 889 00:39:00,712 --> 00:39:02,412 Would you be willing to push for a murder charge, 890 00:39:02,414 --> 00:39:04,163 have another talk with the D.D.A.? 891 00:39:04,165 --> 00:39:05,781 Absolutely not. 892 00:39:05,783 --> 00:39:10,753 Okay. Had to try. 893 00:39:10,755 --> 00:39:12,255 Thank you for hearing me out. 894 00:39:14,842 --> 00:39:16,142 Hey, I-I heard about Jane's trick. 895 00:39:16,144 --> 00:39:18,261 How did he make that symbol appear on the table? 896 00:39:18,263 --> 00:39:20,563 Lemon juice. Kid's invisible ink. 897 00:39:20,565 --> 00:39:22,849 The heat from the coffee pot made it appear. 898 00:39:22,851 --> 00:39:25,485 Lemon juice. Of course. 899 00:39:26,937 --> 00:39:28,071 Hey, Ray... 900 00:39:28,073 --> 00:39:31,858 You said that you joined Visualize as a teenager. 901 00:39:31,860 --> 00:39:34,577 So 1988, you would have been 21? 902 00:39:34,579 --> 00:39:35,811 Yeah, about that. 903 00:39:35,813 --> 00:39:38,331 Did they ever send you to work at the Elliston farm? 904 00:39:38,333 --> 00:39:39,866 Were you there? 905 00:39:41,635 --> 00:39:43,786 Lisbon, we're still friends, right? 906 00:39:44,672 --> 00:39:46,822 Why would you ask me that? 907 00:40:00,838 --> 00:40:01,804 Lisbon. 908 00:40:01,806 --> 00:40:03,339 Hi, Jane. 909 00:40:03,341 --> 00:40:04,340 What's up? 910 00:40:04,342 --> 00:40:05,641 I had something I wanted to tell you, 911 00:40:05,643 --> 00:40:08,111 but I've had enough of this. Let me in, or else. 912 00:40:08,113 --> 00:40:09,395 Or else what? 913 00:40:09,397 --> 00:40:11,197 I don't know, but you're not gonna like it. 914 00:40:11,199 --> 00:40:12,348 Hmm. 915 00:40:12,350 --> 00:40:14,617 Are we partners or what? 916 00:40:16,487 --> 00:40:18,121 Come in, partner. 917 00:40:28,048 --> 00:40:29,582 Wow. 918 00:40:30,384 --> 00:40:32,635 What did you want to tell me? 919 00:40:36,974 --> 00:40:39,008 Visualize absolutely refuses 920 00:40:39,010 --> 00:40:41,260 to let us look at a membership list from 1988, 921 00:40:41,262 --> 00:40:43,563 or any other year before or after. 922 00:40:43,565 --> 00:40:46,349 And since they're a recognized religious organization, 923 00:40:46,351 --> 00:40:48,684 no judge will give us a warrant. 924 00:40:48,686 --> 00:40:51,270 If Red John was a member of Visualize in 1988, 925 00:40:51,272 --> 00:40:52,505 we'll never know. 926 00:40:52,507 --> 00:40:53,856 Figures. 927 00:40:53,858 --> 00:40:55,491 Never mind. 928 00:40:55,493 --> 00:40:59,562 We know that Red John was at Elliston farm in 1988. 929 00:40:59,564 --> 00:41:02,090 That is a huge leap forward, Lisbon. Huge. 930 00:41:02,115 --> 00:41:03,230 How so? 931 00:41:05,569 --> 00:41:09,455 I recalled all the names of the 2,164 people 932 00:41:09,457 --> 00:41:11,841 that I met and shook hands with 933 00:41:11,843 --> 00:41:14,761 since Red John murdered my family. 934 00:41:14,763 --> 00:41:17,380 I might have missed one or two, but not many. 935 00:41:17,382 --> 00:41:21,934 807 of those names were women. 936 00:41:21,936 --> 00:41:23,853 And Red John's probably not a woman. 937 00:41:23,855 --> 00:41:28,191 Another 949 were men that I had brief encounters with 938 00:41:28,193 --> 00:41:30,359 that I never saw or heard from again. 939 00:41:30,361 --> 00:41:34,063 That leaves 408 names. 940 00:41:34,065 --> 00:41:39,952 And Elliston farm will exclude a whole bunch more. 941 00:41:39,954 --> 00:41:41,788 I'm getting close, Lisbon. 942 00:41:41,790 --> 00:41:43,706 I'm getting very close. 943 00:41:43,708 --> 00:41:44,991 Tell me some of the names. 944 00:41:44,993 --> 00:41:46,826 There's gotta be some that are at the top of the list. 945 00:41:46,828 --> 00:41:48,744 Sure. 946 00:41:48,746 --> 00:41:50,946 There's some interesting names. 947 00:41:50,948 --> 00:41:52,548 Well, tell me. 948 00:41:52,573 --> 00:41:57,573 == sync, corrected by elderman ==