1 00:01:17,694 --> 00:01:20,858 They are all distortions of love. 2 00:01:21,239 --> 00:01:24,823 Hysteria of one sort or another. 3 00:01:29,872 --> 00:01:32,865 That's how the Holy Father defined them. 4 00:01:39,173 --> 00:01:40,459 Do we know each other? 5 00:01:45,346 --> 00:01:46,837 You are... 6 00:01:49,726 --> 00:01:51,058 Sofia Dubois. 7 00:01:55,189 --> 00:01:57,852 Tomas Altbruck's wife, everybody knows you. 8 00:01:59,861 --> 00:02:00,977 And I am... 9 00:02:02,822 --> 00:02:04,358 Leopold Essence. 10 00:02:05,616 --> 00:02:07,699 Whom no one knows. 11 00:02:10,329 --> 00:02:12,412 What were you saying just now? 12 00:02:17,670 --> 00:02:20,458 Follow the love, I was saying. 13 00:02:24,093 --> 00:02:27,427 That's where you will find failure. 14 00:02:35,980 --> 00:02:39,144 Excuse me, but... who are you? 15 00:02:42,653 --> 00:02:47,114 I am the second most intelligent man in the world. 16 00:02:50,078 --> 00:02:51,819 While we're on that subject 17 00:02:54,165 --> 00:02:56,122 is it possible to call... 18 00:02:58,002 --> 00:03:01,837 Tomas Altbruck a "man"? 19 00:03:06,928 --> 00:03:08,965 Follow the love... 20 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:11,012 Sofia. 21 00:05:47,838 --> 00:05:52,833 Who did you prefer, Pius XIII or Francis II? 22 00:05:55,763 --> 00:05:58,176 I knew Pius XIII better. 23 00:05:58,474 --> 00:06:01,467 So Pius XIII, then. Why? 24 00:06:04,355 --> 00:06:07,644 - Because he believed in me. - I believe in you too. 25 00:06:08,442 --> 00:06:11,901 But will you believe in me? 26 00:06:28,129 --> 00:06:32,089 I'll give what's owed to you to Fabiano. 27 00:06:32,550 --> 00:06:35,338 No, you will give it to me. 28 00:06:36,721 --> 00:06:40,715 Fabiano no longer exists, for me or for you. 29 00:06:43,728 --> 00:06:45,640 And I will decide the amount. 30 00:06:47,398 --> 00:06:49,560 Fifteen thousand a visit. 31 00:06:51,694 --> 00:06:53,356 As it should be. 32 00:06:56,782 --> 00:07:00,401 Before you arrived, Attanasio would scream all night. 33 00:07:03,039 --> 00:07:06,874 For 20 years, no one in this house got any sleep... 34 00:07:08,753 --> 00:07:11,336 but now he sleeps like a baby. 35 00:07:13,466 --> 00:07:14,923 Thanks to you. 36 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,461 And you, Ester... 37 00:07:20,431 --> 00:07:21,638 how are you? 38 00:07:22,933 --> 00:07:25,266 Are you calm like Attanasio 39 00:07:25,394 --> 00:07:28,228 or stormy like the sea? 40 00:07:35,654 --> 00:07:36,815 Stormy. 41 00:07:37,990 --> 00:07:41,529 Because you see the danger? 42 00:07:43,704 --> 00:07:45,866 - What danger? - Pleasure. 43 00:07:48,084 --> 00:07:52,078 A pleasure you didn't experience before... 44 00:07:54,215 --> 00:07:55,877 didn't long for... 45 00:07:57,510 --> 00:07:59,968 didn't even know existed. 46 00:08:02,681 --> 00:08:06,516 An unexpected pleasure is seeping into you. 47 00:08:07,895 --> 00:08:11,935 A sensation you hadn't reckoned with. 48 00:08:13,567 --> 00:08:17,186 I know what I'm talking about, Ester. 49 00:08:19,573 --> 00:08:20,905 I know. 50 00:08:25,830 --> 00:08:29,414 A mother is capable of... 51 00:08:31,293 --> 00:08:34,252 anything in order to... 52 00:08:38,217 --> 00:08:42,507 I have to talk to you about something, but I don't know how. 53 00:08:44,765 --> 00:08:47,599 Attanasio is not the only one. 54 00:08:50,813 --> 00:08:51,974 I don't understand. 55 00:08:52,064 --> 00:08:56,104 Attanasio is not the only one and... 56 00:08:56,861 --> 00:09:00,229 I'm not the only mother who suffers. 57 00:09:01,574 --> 00:09:03,531 There are lots of us, Ester. 58 00:09:03,909 --> 00:09:07,823 Lots of well-off, unhappy parents 59 00:09:08,831 --> 00:09:11,995 with children no one wants to look at 60 00:09:12,626 --> 00:09:15,835 because nature has turned against them. 61 00:09:19,300 --> 00:09:22,338 They are all waiting for you, Ester. 62 00:09:23,929 --> 00:09:28,890 You have a gift which you are finally beginning to recognise. 63 00:09:31,061 --> 00:09:34,304 - What gift? - The gift of human warmth. 64 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,813 You are a saint, Ester. 65 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:44,776 I'm a whore. 66 00:09:47,786 --> 00:09:50,779 Do you know what the difference 67 00:09:51,457 --> 00:09:54,700 is between a whore and a saint? 68 00:09:59,173 --> 00:10:00,584 None. 69 00:12:17,686 --> 00:12:20,224 Forgive me, Eminence, it's late. 70 00:12:21,607 --> 00:12:23,098 Have I disturbed you? 71 00:13:07,903 --> 00:13:10,111 What have you discovered about Spalletta 72 00:13:10,197 --> 00:13:12,359 Guicciardini and your husband? 73 00:13:13,701 --> 00:13:16,910 All three of them frequent the same underage girl. 74 00:13:18,163 --> 00:13:20,496 - At the same time. - I see. 75 00:13:23,335 --> 00:13:25,827 You don't seem particularly perturbed. 76 00:13:27,256 --> 00:13:29,589 I knew about Spalletta already. 77 00:13:30,592 --> 00:13:32,959 Guicciardini and your husband are laymen. 78 00:13:33,053 --> 00:13:36,217 They concern me only up to a certain point. 79 00:13:37,349 --> 00:13:39,466 That's all you have to say? 80 00:14:01,081 --> 00:14:04,540 129 breaths, then a sigh. 81 00:14:04,877 --> 00:14:08,587 - So they are still broadcasting? - Yes. 82 00:14:12,009 --> 00:14:16,219 It's not the only new development, there is another. 83 00:14:17,556 --> 00:14:20,674 A certain threesome who are operating 84 00:14:20,893 --> 00:14:23,886 in a decidedly opaque manner. 85 00:14:24,396 --> 00:14:27,309 Both at the financial level 86 00:14:27,649 --> 00:14:30,813 I am referring to various unscrupulous operations 87 00:14:30,944 --> 00:14:35,405 carried out by our own financial organisation 88 00:14:36,116 --> 00:14:38,108 and at the private level 89 00:14:38,744 --> 00:14:41,236 the moral level, to be precise. 90 00:14:42,164 --> 00:14:45,032 Would you like me to elaborate? 91 00:15:09,817 --> 00:15:14,312 I detest politics and gossip in equal measure 92 00:15:14,488 --> 00:15:19,074 but in this little state of ours, it seems impossible for even the Pope 93 00:15:19,159 --> 00:15:22,743 to avoid matters of unprecedented vulgarity. 94 00:15:23,455 --> 00:15:26,414 I am delighted to be here and help you. 95 00:15:26,625 --> 00:15:30,710 That is convenient, Eminence, for only you can help me 96 00:15:31,463 --> 00:15:34,001 as it's you we're talking about. 97 00:15:41,223 --> 00:15:43,306 We need to rethink things. 98 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,638 Certain behaviours, if made public 99 00:15:46,937 --> 00:15:49,179 would expose me and people would say 100 00:15:49,273 --> 00:15:52,141 John Paul III does nothing. 101 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,152 Allow me to explain, Holy Father. 102 00:16:04,705 --> 00:16:07,539 Altbruck and I are making Guicciardini happy. 103 00:16:08,333 --> 00:16:11,826 In exchange, he has dissuaded the Prime Minister 104 00:16:12,045 --> 00:16:14,412 from taking lethal measures. 105 00:16:15,090 --> 00:16:19,460 Repealing the eight per thousand wasn't the only item on the table. 106 00:16:21,054 --> 00:16:23,717 They were even considering introducing 107 00:16:24,641 --> 00:16:27,634 a tax on Church property 108 00:16:28,812 --> 00:16:31,429 effective retroactively. 109 00:16:32,482 --> 00:16:36,066 Let me remind you that we have never paid taxes 110 00:16:36,445 --> 00:16:38,186 on our properties. 111 00:16:39,281 --> 00:16:42,865 Do you have any idea what that would mean 112 00:16:43,035 --> 00:16:45,573 in economic terms for the Church? 113 00:16:48,206 --> 00:16:49,913 A catastrophe. 114 00:16:51,251 --> 00:16:55,586 The Church doesn't want that, nor obviously 115 00:16:56,882 --> 00:16:59,875 do those directly involved. 116 00:17:03,931 --> 00:17:06,639 There are only two people 117 00:17:07,225 --> 00:17:10,059 who could divulge that agreement between 118 00:17:10,145 --> 00:17:12,762 Guicciardini, Altbruck and me. 119 00:17:13,273 --> 00:17:14,480 One is you 120 00:17:15,317 --> 00:17:18,276 but you and I have... 121 00:17:19,488 --> 00:17:23,858 already affirmed our mutual affection 122 00:17:24,326 --> 00:17:27,319 rather than any inclination to blackmail. 123 00:17:29,790 --> 00:17:31,827 The other is the Secretary of State 124 00:17:32,042 --> 00:17:36,582 who, however, has always tended 125 00:17:36,672 --> 00:17:41,588 toward a complete and total autonomy, even in regard to the Pope. 126 00:17:43,470 --> 00:17:47,885 And who pursues mysterious interests 127 00:17:48,266 --> 00:17:52,351 that are completely unknown to everyone, but himself. 128 00:17:55,273 --> 00:17:58,232 So, regarding the Secretary of State 129 00:17:59,111 --> 00:18:02,070 the situation is far more volatile 130 00:18:02,531 --> 00:18:05,239 and you, Your Holiness 131 00:18:05,826 --> 00:18:08,364 are the only one who can defuse it. 132 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:43,228 Tomas Altbruck and Spalletta are laundering money. 133 00:18:43,530 --> 00:18:46,819 They are paying Guicciardini through offshore companies 134 00:18:46,950 --> 00:18:50,239 withdrawing funds from our financial structure. 135 00:18:56,084 --> 00:18:59,703 I make no moral judgment regarding these operations. 136 00:18:59,796 --> 00:19:03,380 For me, it's merely a question of expediency. 137 00:19:03,759 --> 00:19:06,968 Sooner or later, some enterprising journalist 138 00:19:07,095 --> 00:19:11,339 will stick his nose in our business and uncover everything 139 00:19:11,892 --> 00:19:15,806 and you will be dragged into the ensuing scandal. 140 00:19:20,108 --> 00:19:24,273 Scandal leaves me indifferent, as does reputation. 141 00:19:24,404 --> 00:19:28,148 Those are concerns for the petite bourgeoisie 142 00:19:28,366 --> 00:19:31,074 a class to which I do not belong. 143 00:19:32,662 --> 00:19:34,949 I was taught proper form 144 00:19:35,165 --> 00:19:38,408 polished to perfection becomes mystical. 145 00:19:39,377 --> 00:19:41,289 As you like, Your Holiness. 146 00:19:48,553 --> 00:19:49,714 You know... 147 00:19:51,389 --> 00:19:52,755 Eminence... 148 00:19:54,976 --> 00:19:57,935 I'm saying this for your own good. 149 00:19:58,647 --> 00:20:00,183 Perhaps it's... 150 00:20:01,399 --> 00:20:04,358 time you took a step back. 151 00:20:06,905 --> 00:20:09,067 I don't understand. What do you mean? 152 00:20:10,617 --> 00:20:13,906 Please, it would pain me to spell it out for you. 153 00:20:14,871 --> 00:20:17,864 You understand perfectly well what I mean. 154 00:20:20,043 --> 00:20:24,629 I am the longest-serving Secretary of State in the history of the Church. 155 00:20:25,507 --> 00:20:26,998 There must be a reason. 156 00:20:27,217 --> 00:20:29,550 There are hundreds, I'm sure 157 00:20:29,761 --> 00:20:34,381 but since you already hold the record for service to the papacy 158 00:20:34,891 --> 00:20:36,883 why not use the network 159 00:20:37,102 --> 00:20:41,221 you have painstakingly constructed over decades 160 00:20:41,314 --> 00:20:45,058 and the vast wealth of knowledge and experience you've acquired 161 00:20:45,235 --> 00:20:47,852 as a bequest to a new generation 162 00:20:48,363 --> 00:20:51,902 represented by a new Secretary of State, say... 163 00:20:52,450 --> 00:20:54,988 someone like Cardinal Assente? 164 00:20:56,830 --> 00:20:59,322 Are you asking or ordering me? 165 00:21:00,125 --> 00:21:02,708 I do not like to have to choose 166 00:21:02,919 --> 00:21:05,753 and I do not like giving orders. 167 00:21:06,798 --> 00:21:11,008 I do. I adore giving orders. 168 00:21:11,553 --> 00:21:13,260 It's my whole life. 169 00:21:56,932 --> 00:21:58,673 Schedule the interview. 170 00:21:59,976 --> 00:22:01,092 I'm ready. 171 00:22:10,403 --> 00:22:12,110 I was on my way to see you. 172 00:22:12,822 --> 00:22:14,233 - How are you? - Tense. 173 00:22:14,366 --> 00:22:16,608 Essence planted a cockroach in my car. 174 00:22:16,910 --> 00:22:19,823 Do you think he was trying to intimidate me, Eminence? 175 00:22:20,497 --> 00:22:23,285 A rather crude form of intimidation, but yes 176 00:22:23,500 --> 00:22:25,833 they want to make sure you don't talk. 177 00:22:26,044 --> 00:22:29,253 - What am I supposed to do? - Don't talk. 178 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,754 What's wrong? You look different, you look lifeless. 179 00:22:36,346 --> 00:22:37,803 Napoli lost. 180 00:22:49,901 --> 00:22:51,813 You wanted to see me, Eminence? 181 00:22:52,028 --> 00:22:55,521 Yes, rather urgently. I am transferring you. 182 00:22:55,949 --> 00:22:58,908 - Effective immediately. - You are promoting me? 183 00:22:59,661 --> 00:23:02,620 Even better, I am making you a missionary. 184 00:23:03,581 --> 00:23:05,038 Where am I going? 185 00:23:05,375 --> 00:23:06,536 To Kabul. 186 00:23:13,842 --> 00:23:16,255 Kabul? But... 187 00:23:17,012 --> 00:23:20,631 - There are no Catholics in Kabul. - Exactly. 188 00:23:21,182 --> 00:23:24,175 What does a missionary do? He begins. 189 00:23:24,436 --> 00:23:26,268 Why are you doing this? 190 00:23:27,188 --> 00:23:30,147 Because in Kabul, there are no paedophile priests 191 00:23:30,233 --> 00:23:32,816 whose sins need to be covered. 192 00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:36,027 Goodbye, Hernández. 193 00:23:47,834 --> 00:23:49,575 I have to talk to you. 194 00:23:50,503 --> 00:23:53,621 Imperiously and in violation of all your demands 195 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,129 I have made some decisions for a number of you. 196 00:23:57,635 --> 00:23:59,718 Sister Melanie, you will receive 197 00:23:59,804 --> 00:24:02,763 psychological assistance twice a week free of charge. 198 00:24:02,849 --> 00:24:04,636 Why? This is outrageous! 199 00:24:04,726 --> 00:24:07,389 Because Sister Melanie is a kleptomaniac. 200 00:24:07,937 --> 00:24:10,304 Sister Ivanka, on the other hand 201 00:24:10,899 --> 00:24:13,562 will be transferred to Sister Suree's care. 202 00:24:14,110 --> 00:24:17,148 - She will work for the Pope. - But why? 203 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,365 Because she is continually mistreated and sexually harassed 204 00:24:21,576 --> 00:24:25,320 by three sisters who shall remain nameless. 205 00:24:26,039 --> 00:24:29,123 Discretion, let it be remembered through the centuries 206 00:24:29,334 --> 00:24:33,669 has always been one of the greatest attributes of the Secretary of State. 207 00:24:35,673 --> 00:24:38,006 Reverend Mother, you never noticed 208 00:24:38,218 --> 00:24:40,210 Sister Ivanka's suffering 209 00:24:40,428 --> 00:24:42,590 but I do not reproach you in the least. 210 00:24:43,181 --> 00:24:44,262 You didn't notice it 211 00:24:44,349 --> 00:24:47,683 because you are preoccupied by something at the base of your breast. 212 00:24:48,103 --> 00:24:49,969 It is all you think about 213 00:24:50,188 --> 00:24:53,272 but you cannot bring yourself to confront the issue. 214 00:24:53,525 --> 00:24:56,609 So I decided to confront it for you. 215 00:24:57,695 --> 00:25:01,279 You have an appointment at the Gemelli Hospital 216 00:25:01,449 --> 00:25:04,988 on Tuesday morning at nine with Dr Villar 217 00:25:05,370 --> 00:25:08,454 one of the best oncologists in Rome. 218 00:25:15,672 --> 00:25:17,129 How is it going? 219 00:25:18,299 --> 00:25:19,299 Fine. 220 00:25:21,761 --> 00:25:23,343 But I'm scared. 221 00:25:23,513 --> 00:25:26,347 Don't be, I have thought about you too. 222 00:25:27,225 --> 00:25:30,593 I pretended that you sisters presented me 223 00:25:30,728 --> 00:25:35,564 with a request to be allowed to receive orphans inside the convent 224 00:25:35,817 --> 00:25:38,150 and I have authorised your request. 225 00:25:38,403 --> 00:25:42,898 Caterina's baby will be the first pretend orphan you will receive. 226 00:25:43,324 --> 00:25:46,567 Every now and then, with every precaution 227 00:25:46,786 --> 00:25:51,531 you will let Faisal see the baby inside the gardeners' shed. 228 00:25:51,958 --> 00:25:54,701 Not here, it is too dangerous here. 229 00:25:55,753 --> 00:25:58,416 How do you know all these things about us? 230 00:25:58,548 --> 00:26:00,585 Because I am the longest-serving 231 00:26:00,675 --> 00:26:03,509 Secretary of State in the history of the Church 232 00:26:03,845 --> 00:26:07,384 and I have spent my life informing myself. 233 00:26:07,974 --> 00:26:10,011 And now for you, Sister Lisette... 234 00:26:10,143 --> 00:26:13,307 I have something to say to you first, Eminence. 235 00:26:14,355 --> 00:26:17,473 The Wi-Fi is slow because you slowed it deliberately. 236 00:26:17,650 --> 00:26:19,767 You're afraid that our protest will spread. 237 00:26:19,944 --> 00:26:23,688 I told you that you would be a formidable adversary. 238 00:26:24,115 --> 00:26:27,449 At what point is our request to meet with the Holy Father? 239 00:26:27,619 --> 00:26:29,110 At a dead end 240 00:26:29,579 --> 00:26:34,119 because as of today, I am no longer the Secretary of State. 241 00:26:35,168 --> 00:26:38,502 When I leave here, I will submit my resignation 242 00:26:38,796 --> 00:26:40,879 and it will be accepted. 243 00:26:41,090 --> 00:26:44,049 So you will have to file a new request 244 00:26:44,636 --> 00:26:48,095 with the new Secretary of State, Cardinal Assente. 245 00:26:49,140 --> 00:26:52,929 What do you advise us to do, Eminence? 246 00:26:54,437 --> 00:26:56,474 To carry on with your battle. 247 00:26:56,731 --> 00:26:59,849 You have not one, but a thousand reasons to. 248 00:27:00,944 --> 00:27:02,901 Thank you, Eminence. 249 00:27:06,074 --> 00:27:08,031 Do you know what is so awful 250 00:27:08,284 --> 00:27:11,573 about these endless battles over rights? 251 00:27:13,456 --> 00:27:16,164 There is no room left for poetry. 252 00:27:24,300 --> 00:27:26,713 What are you thinking of naming him? 253 00:27:27,345 --> 00:27:29,007 We haven't decided yet. 254 00:27:30,932 --> 00:27:34,266 May I suggest you name him Angelo, like me? 255 00:27:36,563 --> 00:27:39,101 - And if it's a girl? - Still Angelo. 256 00:27:39,607 --> 00:27:41,473 It's a unisex name. 257 00:32:07,959 --> 00:32:09,575 I'll see you on Thursday? 258 00:32:09,836 --> 00:32:14,080 No, Ester, our relationship ends here. 259 00:32:16,551 --> 00:32:17,551 What? 260 00:32:19,637 --> 00:32:20,718 Why? 261 00:32:22,139 --> 00:32:26,554 Attanasio, and the others too, they are tired of this. 262 00:32:28,396 --> 00:32:31,013 Even they get bored by routine. 263 00:32:32,358 --> 00:32:34,475 Attanasio is not tired of me. 264 00:32:35,695 --> 00:32:38,187 You're not a girl anymore, Ester. 265 00:32:40,449 --> 00:32:43,533 And we found some African women 266 00:32:43,619 --> 00:32:45,906 who cost a lot less 267 00:32:47,248 --> 00:32:49,831 and are much younger than you. 268 00:32:51,419 --> 00:32:54,662 Besides, you need to think about your future. 269 00:32:55,673 --> 00:32:57,164 You were poor 270 00:32:58,134 --> 00:33:00,467 we've made you well-off. 271 00:33:01,053 --> 00:33:04,512 Now you have a nice house, a babysitter... 272 00:33:07,018 --> 00:33:10,102 Go find yourself a normal husband. 273 00:33:12,899 --> 00:33:14,606 Do something else. 274 00:33:17,361 --> 00:33:19,273 What did you expect? 275 00:33:19,947 --> 00:33:22,189 That this would go on forever? 276 00:33:22,491 --> 00:33:24,198 That's not the point. 277 00:33:28,164 --> 00:33:30,326 What is the point then? 278 00:33:32,585 --> 00:33:33,826 The point is... 279 00:33:35,755 --> 00:33:37,667 is that I need Attanasio. 280 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,358 That's exactly what's not going to work. 281 00:34:07,411 --> 00:34:08,743 What are you saying? 282 00:34:09,664 --> 00:34:12,407 Sex, yes? Love, no? 283 00:34:12,750 --> 00:34:14,833 - Precisely. - I don't understand. 284 00:34:15,962 --> 00:34:18,124 You're such a fool, Ester. 285 00:34:19,340 --> 00:34:23,675 Sex has no value because it lives and dies in the present. 286 00:34:25,471 --> 00:34:27,133 But love doesn't. 287 00:34:27,348 --> 00:34:31,558 Love is dangerous because it looks to the future. 288 00:34:32,645 --> 00:34:36,605 What sort of future could there be for you and Attanasio? 289 00:34:36,816 --> 00:34:40,856 Every Thursday night when I come here, that's the future. 290 00:34:41,070 --> 00:34:44,654 And you wouldn't have to pay another penny, if that's an issue. 291 00:34:46,242 --> 00:34:47,242 No. 292 00:34:48,411 --> 00:34:50,277 It ends here. 293 00:34:51,038 --> 00:34:53,997 Attanasio doesn't return your love. 294 00:34:56,961 --> 00:34:58,247 I see. 295 00:35:00,381 --> 00:35:02,543 Only you can love Attanasio, right? 296 00:35:02,717 --> 00:35:05,175 That's exactly right, Ester. 297 00:35:06,679 --> 00:35:09,672 Only I can love Attanasio. 298 00:35:13,060 --> 00:35:15,268 In every sense. 299 00:36:25,549 --> 00:36:28,132 Holy Father, I beg you 300 00:36:29,011 --> 00:36:32,254 I implore you, please, stop my hand. 301 00:37:33,951 --> 00:37:36,193 Shall I bring your box, sir? 302 00:37:37,705 --> 00:37:41,790 I think I'll manage without. Thank you, Danny. 303 00:37:47,047 --> 00:37:50,916 Do you think they'll watch me on telly, my parents? 304 00:37:51,969 --> 00:37:53,301 Oh, yes, sir. 305 00:37:54,430 --> 00:37:55,430 I do. 306 00:39:26,939 --> 00:39:28,271 You're trembling. 307 00:39:29,608 --> 00:39:30,644 So am I. 308 00:39:41,245 --> 00:39:42,861 Holy Father, thank you. 309 00:39:43,580 --> 00:39:46,243 Words aren't enough to express my gratitude. 310 00:39:47,710 --> 00:39:50,544 Answering our questions in a worldwide broadcast 311 00:39:50,713 --> 00:39:53,672 is an unparalleled privilege for us and... 312 00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:58,089 and this is the first time that such a thing has happened 313 00:39:58,304 --> 00:40:02,844 a pontiff agreeing to a live, free-ranging interview. 314 00:40:04,768 --> 00:40:05,768 Thank you. 315 00:40:06,603 --> 00:40:08,390 Well then, let's get started. 316 00:40:09,857 --> 00:40:12,770 We've come to know John Paul III 317 00:40:13,819 --> 00:40:18,860 but we would also like to get to know Sir John Brannox. 318 00:40:20,117 --> 00:40:23,451 Holy Father, just who is John Brannox? 319 00:40:24,455 --> 00:40:27,493 A priest who had, or has 320 00:40:28,125 --> 00:40:33,371 the good fortune to be more loved by God than he is by himself. 321 00:40:35,007 --> 00:40:36,543 And where did you grow up? 322 00:40:37,217 --> 00:40:39,379 I spent almost my entire life 323 00:40:39,470 --> 00:40:43,214 on our family's estate on the outskirts of London 324 00:40:43,766 --> 00:40:46,349 together with my father and my mother 325 00:40:46,852 --> 00:40:49,811 once upon a time, my twin brother Adam 326 00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:53,519 and a thousand or so fallow deer. 327 00:40:54,735 --> 00:40:56,192 Your brother, Adam. 328 00:40:57,696 --> 00:41:02,942 Your youth, Holy Father, was scarred by a sorrowful event. 329 00:41:03,911 --> 00:41:06,494 One day, while you were skiing together 330 00:41:07,247 --> 00:41:11,036 your brother suddenly took ill and died. 331 00:41:12,378 --> 00:41:14,745 I understand that the two of you were very close. 332 00:41:15,798 --> 00:41:20,008 How did your life change after that tragic event? 333 00:41:31,313 --> 00:41:33,145 My grief 334 00:41:34,066 --> 00:41:36,524 like all great sorrows 335 00:41:36,693 --> 00:41:40,027 cannot be expressed in words, the dictionary... 336 00:41:42,324 --> 00:41:46,068 does not contain the adequate words. 337 00:41:49,081 --> 00:41:53,746 My life changed, but more importantly, my faith changed. 338 00:41:54,586 --> 00:41:56,748 Before Adam's death, life was 339 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,419 a long and quiet river taken for granted. 340 00:42:00,884 --> 00:42:04,798 Perhaps pure, ritualistic, even. 341 00:42:06,265 --> 00:42:10,555 But almost immediately after Adam's passing 342 00:42:12,646 --> 00:42:15,764 a secret and scorching religiosity 343 00:42:16,733 --> 00:42:20,352 penetrated me, something rocky and hidden. 344 00:42:22,781 --> 00:42:27,116 I closed myself off from the world. 345 00:42:27,870 --> 00:42:29,611 But that closure... 346 00:42:33,375 --> 00:42:38,120 began a sort of hidden life of the heart. 347 00:42:39,214 --> 00:42:42,423 What Cardinal Newman might have referred to 348 00:42:42,509 --> 00:42:45,297 as "the secret actions of the heart". 349 00:42:46,263 --> 00:42:49,472 And when the Holy Spirit breathed in me 350 00:42:49,933 --> 00:42:51,890 and my life changed again 351 00:42:52,144 --> 00:42:54,978 I was made Pope and Bishop of Rome 352 00:42:55,397 --> 00:42:59,391 I realised that the time had come 353 00:42:59,485 --> 00:43:03,149 for me to offer up to the Catholics of the world 354 00:43:04,656 --> 00:43:06,648 my secret devotion. 355 00:43:13,207 --> 00:43:15,790 An active devotion, then? 356 00:43:20,672 --> 00:43:23,335 C... Yes, an... 357 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,592 active devotion. 358 00:43:28,180 --> 00:43:30,797 What does it consist of? And... 359 00:43:31,308 --> 00:43:33,300 what are your priorities? 360 00:43:35,646 --> 00:43:36,646 Pardon? 361 00:43:40,234 --> 00:43:45,025 What does it consist of and what are your priorities? 362 00:43:46,782 --> 00:43:49,399 My priority is evil. 363 00:43:53,956 --> 00:43:55,492 Evil that... 364 00:43:58,252 --> 00:44:01,836 must be looked at openly 365 00:44:03,298 --> 00:44:05,381 without hypocrisy 366 00:44:06,218 --> 00:44:07,880 without distinction 367 00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:10,678 without value scales. 368 00:44:12,474 --> 00:44:14,306 Evil is evil. 369 00:44:18,647 --> 00:44:21,481 Well, in that case, if you have no objection 370 00:44:22,442 --> 00:44:25,526 I'd like to explore with you, one at a time 371 00:44:26,780 --> 00:44:28,988 all of the aspects of this evil 372 00:44:29,741 --> 00:44:31,482 that assails the Church. 373 00:44:31,618 --> 00:44:32,699 I'm sure that 374 00:44:33,412 --> 00:44:36,780 you'd be happy to tell us how the Church intends to proceed. 375 00:44:38,709 --> 00:44:41,747 One of the most urgent themes 376 00:44:41,962 --> 00:44:46,047 is the wave of sex-abuse scandals 377 00:44:46,258 --> 00:44:48,375 that's swept over priests, bishops and cardinals... 378 00:44:48,468 --> 00:44:49,800 Let's break off the interview. 379 00:44:50,137 --> 00:44:53,380 Are you mad? We're live, this is being broadcast worldwide. 380 00:44:53,473 --> 00:44:54,714 to stop all this? 381 00:44:56,810 --> 00:44:59,268 Believe me, he is not going to make it. 382 00:44:59,479 --> 00:45:02,347 Of course he will. He's just a little bit nervous. 383 00:45:02,608 --> 00:45:06,318 The Holy Father knows better than anyone how to take the stage. 384 00:45:18,999 --> 00:45:21,912 - You don't get it, do you? - Get what? 385 00:45:22,711 --> 00:45:24,794 He's in withdrawal, damn it! 386 00:45:32,179 --> 00:45:33,179 Excuse me. 387 00:46:02,376 --> 00:46:04,413 Forgive me, Blessed Father 388 00:46:04,836 --> 00:46:06,452 if I have been loved. 389 00:46:07,756 --> 00:46:09,918 And if I have loved. 390 00:46:11,093 --> 00:46:12,880 Forgive me, Blessed Father 391 00:46:14,054 --> 00:46:15,920 for it brought me pleasure.