1 00:00:13,723 --> 00:00:15,619 Helen, morning. Good morning. 2 00:00:15,643 --> 00:00:18,179 Five hours for one photo shoot. Yes. 3 00:00:18,203 --> 00:00:20,779 What, is it really going to take half a day? 4 00:00:20,803 --> 00:00:21,780 Yes. 5 00:00:21,804 --> 00:00:24,779 It says... it says "candid shots of couple at home". 6 00:00:24,803 --> 00:00:25,819 Yes. 7 00:00:25,843 --> 00:00:27,259 So why do we need a stylist? 8 00:00:27,283 --> 00:00:29,539 Uh, it's a photo shoot. This is nothing. 9 00:00:29,563 --> 00:00:30,619 I dress up as a bon-bon 10 00:00:30,643 --> 00:00:32,699 on the News At Six Christmas card the other year. 11 00:00:32,723 --> 00:00:34,499 Oh, where can I see those photos? 12 00:00:34,523 --> 00:00:36,419 I've got really good news. 13 00:00:36,443 --> 00:00:41,059 I have got the Caroline Gibson story across the line. 14 00:00:41,083 --> 00:00:42,179 Caroline Gibson? 15 00:00:42,203 --> 00:00:44,379 The mother who contracted HIV through a blood transfusion 16 00:00:44,403 --> 00:00:45,859 and unknowingly gave it to her children. 17 00:00:45,883 --> 00:00:47,659 Lindsay signed off on it? Yes. 18 00:00:47,683 --> 00:00:49,483 And I think you should do it. 19 00:00:51,723 --> 00:00:53,139 It's your story. 20 00:00:53,163 --> 00:00:55,363 It's going to do more for you than it is for me. 21 00:00:56,163 --> 00:01:00,539 You imagine? You on camera, empathizing with a mother. 22 00:01:00,563 --> 00:01:02,659 Every woman watching is going to fall in love with you, 23 00:01:02,683 --> 00:01:04,339 and they're going to call the switchboard 24 00:01:04,363 --> 00:01:06,482 and ask for more Dale Jennings. 25 00:01:08,523 --> 00:01:09,563 OK. 26 00:01:10,403 --> 00:01:11,683 Thank you. 27 00:01:22,563 --> 00:01:24,899 Noelene, could you check some dates for me? 28 00:01:24,923 --> 00:01:25,900 Sure. 29 00:01:25,924 --> 00:01:28,099 I need to know when AIDS first arrived in Australia 30 00:01:28,123 --> 00:01:30,419 and when the blood bank started screening donors for HIV. 31 00:01:30,443 --> 00:01:31,683 On it. 32 00:01:36,683 --> 00:01:38,939 Jam donuts. Aw, thanks, Noels. 33 00:01:38,963 --> 00:01:41,019 You're a champion. Oi, um... 34 00:01:41,043 --> 00:01:42,819 who's your pick for this Saturday? 35 00:01:42,843 --> 00:01:44,323 Demons or Swans? 36 00:01:45,883 --> 00:01:49,739 What? I thought you wanted a bit of office footy chat? 37 00:01:49,763 --> 00:01:53,299 I do, but I don't want anyone to know you're teaching me. 38 00:01:53,323 --> 00:01:54,323 Why? 39 00:01:55,283 --> 00:01:58,499 What? So I'm banned from talking about the footy with you? 40 00:01:58,523 --> 00:02:00,259 In here, yes. 41 00:02:00,283 --> 00:02:02,939 Everyone else can, but... not me? 42 00:02:02,963 --> 00:02:04,443 Until further notice. 43 00:02:05,603 --> 00:02:08,139 We allowed to chat about other topics? 44 00:02:08,163 --> 00:02:09,803 Do you have other topics? 45 00:02:10,883 --> 00:02:12,043 Cricket. 46 00:02:16,603 --> 00:02:18,699 It's going to be the Swans. 47 00:02:18,723 --> 00:02:20,323 I'm tipping three goals. 48 00:02:22,523 --> 00:02:25,139 Hey, Dennis, is there a crew available? 49 00:02:25,163 --> 00:02:27,139 I'm doing the Caroline Gibson story. 50 00:02:27,163 --> 00:02:30,379 She's in Beaumaris. Ah, mate. 51 00:02:30,403 --> 00:02:31,899 What? Poisoned chalice. 52 00:02:31,923 --> 00:02:34,259 Lindsay signed off on it. That's 'cause Helen wore him down. 53 00:02:34,283 --> 00:02:35,379 Lindsay hates AIDS stories. 54 00:02:35,403 --> 00:02:37,579 He's gonna want to see a cut and he's not gonna be kind. 55 00:02:37,603 --> 00:02:38,739 I'll be right. 56 00:02:38,763 --> 00:02:40,659 Your funeral. Take Tim's crew. 57 00:02:40,683 --> 00:02:42,379 Anyone else available? 58 00:02:42,403 --> 00:02:45,403 You always go out with Tim's crew. What, has he got BO or something? 59 00:02:47,483 --> 00:02:49,123 Whatever. Give me a second. 60 00:02:52,523 --> 00:02:53,763 I need a crew. 61 00:02:55,283 --> 00:02:57,443 What, no, not Tim's crew. Give me another crew. 62 00:02:58,363 --> 00:03:00,363 No. Thanks. 63 00:03:04,363 --> 00:03:07,139 Well, it's higher than I would have liked. 64 00:03:07,163 --> 00:03:09,043 You haven't been exerting yourself, have you? 65 00:03:10,163 --> 00:03:13,419 Just a gentle walk most evenings. 66 00:03:13,443 --> 00:03:14,459 How far? 67 00:03:14,483 --> 00:03:16,219 End of the road and back. 68 00:03:16,243 --> 00:03:19,019 Attempted the full block yesterday and... 69 00:03:19,043 --> 00:03:20,859 never heard the end of it. 70 00:03:20,883 --> 00:03:22,019 Good. 71 00:03:22,043 --> 00:03:25,203 It's paramount to give your body the time it needs, Geoff. 72 00:03:28,363 --> 00:03:32,259 Remember when they sent me to cover Vietnam? 73 00:03:32,283 --> 00:03:34,579 Of course. I came to you to get my jabs. 74 00:03:34,603 --> 00:03:37,139 Yes. I could only get three at a time. 75 00:03:37,163 --> 00:03:38,339 You made me pick. 76 00:03:38,363 --> 00:03:39,939 Disease roulette. 77 00:03:39,963 --> 00:03:44,219 I gave you tetanus, cholera and diphtheria, 78 00:03:44,243 --> 00:03:46,459 and you got typhoid. 79 00:03:46,483 --> 00:03:48,899 Yes. Yep. 80 00:03:48,923 --> 00:03:52,259 Chucking my guts up on a dirt road somewhere. 81 00:03:52,283 --> 00:03:54,203 Seconds later, shooting a story. 82 00:03:55,163 --> 00:03:57,379 But I soldiered on. 83 00:03:57,403 --> 00:03:59,019 We all did. 84 00:03:59,043 --> 00:04:00,419 Your second Walkley. 85 00:04:00,443 --> 00:04:04,059 Yes, well, you know, soldiering on with typhoid at 43 86 00:04:04,083 --> 00:04:05,659 is very impressive, 87 00:04:05,683 --> 00:04:09,803 but soldiering on after a heart bypass at 60 is... 88 00:04:11,163 --> 00:04:13,243 something else entirely, Geoff. 89 00:04:17,043 --> 00:04:18,379 I'll see you out. No. 90 00:04:18,403 --> 00:04:21,059 You stay right there. Rest. 91 00:04:21,083 --> 00:04:23,603 I'll check in on you in a fortnight, alright? 92 00:04:30,843 --> 00:04:34,419 Realistically, when do you think he'll be ready for work? 93 00:04:34,443 --> 00:04:35,763 Months yet. 94 00:04:36,763 --> 00:04:37,819 Months? 95 00:04:37,843 --> 00:04:41,219 Two at least, preferably three, and even then I'd suggest part time. 96 00:04:41,243 --> 00:04:44,579 I know my husband. He is not built to be at home. 97 00:04:44,603 --> 00:04:46,139 He gets agitated. 98 00:04:46,163 --> 00:04:48,803 Evelyn, he could die. 99 00:04:49,603 --> 00:04:51,739 The warning signs have been there for years. 100 00:04:51,763 --> 00:04:53,059 He's ignored them. 101 00:04:53,083 --> 00:04:54,499 And if he keeps ignoring them... 102 00:04:54,523 --> 00:04:56,803 What? I'm sorry, what? 103 00:04:59,843 --> 00:05:03,602 Maybe you don't know everything about your husband. 104 00:05:11,083 --> 00:05:12,739 OK. 105 00:05:12,763 --> 00:05:16,899 She specifically said not to get her kids' faces on camera, 106 00:05:16,923 --> 00:05:18,219 so if they are in frame, 107 00:05:18,243 --> 00:05:20,219 make sure you explain to her what you're filming, 108 00:05:20,243 --> 00:05:22,179 'cause she might be OK with background shots with them. 109 00:05:22,203 --> 00:05:23,459 Got it. 110 00:05:23,483 --> 00:05:25,043 We don't touch her, right? 111 00:05:26,003 --> 00:05:28,379 No, you're not going to be touching her. 112 00:05:28,403 --> 00:05:30,939 What about door handles and stuff? I read you can get it from that. 113 00:05:30,963 --> 00:05:31,940 Well, that's a myth. 114 00:05:31,964 --> 00:05:34,499 You can only get it if some of her blood gets physically inside you. 115 00:05:34,523 --> 00:05:36,579 Sorry. I'm not good with sickness. 116 00:05:36,603 --> 00:05:38,019 She's not sick. 117 00:05:38,043 --> 00:05:41,563 She's HIV positive, and right now she doesn't have any symptoms. 118 00:05:43,083 --> 00:05:44,563 Are we good here? 119 00:05:45,203 --> 00:05:46,363 Yeah. 120 00:05:48,163 --> 00:05:49,163 OK? 121 00:05:50,123 --> 00:05:53,083 I was six months pregnant with my second child. 122 00:05:54,083 --> 00:05:56,843 The hospital suggested that I have the AIDS test. 123 00:05:57,963 --> 00:06:00,203 And when it came back positive, I thought... 124 00:06:01,603 --> 00:06:03,523 it had to be a mistake. 125 00:06:04,563 --> 00:06:06,563 I couldn't even think how it was possible. 126 00:06:07,923 --> 00:06:10,579 Till they asked me if I'd had a blood transfusion. 127 00:06:10,603 --> 00:06:13,379 And you did have one, after the birth of your son. 128 00:06:13,403 --> 00:06:14,563 That's right. 129 00:06:15,683 --> 00:06:19,803 So you went undiagnosed for... Four years. 130 00:06:21,283 --> 00:06:23,363 And I passed it on to my children. 131 00:06:24,243 --> 00:06:27,523 If I'd known, I never would have breastfed and, um... 132 00:06:29,203 --> 00:06:31,882 I certainly wouldn't have gotten pregnant for the second time. 133 00:06:34,443 --> 00:06:37,499 Oh, sorry, are you sick? 134 00:06:37,523 --> 00:06:39,603 What? Do you have a cold? 135 00:06:41,083 --> 00:06:42,619 Just allergies. 136 00:06:42,643 --> 00:06:45,339 I'm so sorry, I just really can't afford to get sick. 137 00:06:45,363 --> 00:06:47,059 Of course. So sorry. 138 00:06:47,083 --> 00:06:50,803 Brian, can you lock the camera off and go and wait in the car? 139 00:06:51,723 --> 00:06:53,683 Are you serious? Yes. 140 00:07:02,123 --> 00:07:03,619 Sorry. Of course. 141 00:07:03,643 --> 00:07:05,019 Thank you. 142 00:07:05,043 --> 00:07:06,843 Caroline, could you... 143 00:07:08,243 --> 00:07:10,379 Could you explain to me a bit more 144 00:07:10,403 --> 00:07:13,363 about what it's like living with the virus day to day? 145 00:07:14,443 --> 00:07:15,643 Well... 146 00:07:16,963 --> 00:07:19,179 people treat us like lepers. 147 00:07:19,203 --> 00:07:21,899 Our dentist has stop seeing us. 148 00:07:21,923 --> 00:07:23,883 My son's been ostracised from school. 149 00:07:25,163 --> 00:07:27,859 And the clinics we have to go to for treatment 150 00:07:27,883 --> 00:07:30,043 are just full of homosexual men. 151 00:07:34,163 --> 00:07:35,979 Are you angry that this happened? 152 00:07:36,003 --> 00:07:37,219 Of course. 153 00:07:37,243 --> 00:07:39,899 I was told that this blood transfusion had saved my life, 154 00:07:39,923 --> 00:07:41,779 but really, it was... 155 00:07:41,803 --> 00:07:45,123 it was a death sentence for me and my children. 156 00:07:48,443 --> 00:07:51,379 You're gonna have to lose 30 seconds out of that. 157 00:07:51,403 --> 00:07:52,579 30 seconds. 158 00:07:52,603 --> 00:07:54,419 It is dire. It's wrist-slashing stuff. 159 00:07:54,443 --> 00:07:56,419 It's moving, sure, but isn't that the point? 160 00:07:56,443 --> 00:07:58,259 The point, Dale, is not to drop viewers. 161 00:07:58,283 --> 00:08:01,259 Every time we put one of these bloody AIDS stories on, 162 00:08:01,283 --> 00:08:02,739 we drop 100k - every time. 163 00:08:02,763 --> 00:08:05,019 I'm worried if we cut that much, we'll lose the impact. 164 00:08:05,043 --> 00:08:06,859 We left out the best bit. No, we didn't. 165 00:08:06,883 --> 00:08:07,899 What's that? 166 00:08:07,923 --> 00:08:10,499 When she says they poisoned the blood bank. The gays. 167 00:08:10,523 --> 00:08:12,539 It's unsubstantiated. She was upset... 168 00:08:12,563 --> 00:08:13,540 Let's see it. 169 00:08:13,564 --> 00:08:14,779 Mate, you've just woken me up. 170 00:08:14,803 --> 00:08:16,699 Poofter poisoning the blood bank. That is gold. 171 00:08:16,723 --> 00:08:18,779 The whole focus is the family impact. Here. 172 00:08:18,803 --> 00:08:21,019 "If it takes threatening and perhaps donating blood 173 00:08:21,043 --> 00:08:24,459 "to get us the attention we need, that may be what we have to do." 174 00:08:24,483 --> 00:08:26,619 That's a quote from a US gay activist. 175 00:08:26,643 --> 00:08:29,043 I'll see if I can get another source, but it looks good. 176 00:08:30,363 --> 00:08:31,683 That's your story. 177 00:08:33,923 --> 00:08:36,499 OK, if we put the quote in, can we keep the 30 seconds? 178 00:08:36,523 --> 00:08:38,339 Oh, you're learning. 179 00:08:38,363 --> 00:08:39,603 Yes, we can. 180 00:08:44,203 --> 00:08:45,619 Great. 181 00:08:45,643 --> 00:08:49,219 In 1983, Robert Schwab, a US gay activist 182 00:08:49,243 --> 00:08:52,659 frustrated by the lack of funding for AIDS, told his followers, 183 00:08:52,683 --> 00:08:55,299 "If it takes threatening and perhaps donating blood 184 00:08:55,323 --> 00:08:59,499 "to get us the attention we need, that may be what we have to do." 185 00:08:59,523 --> 00:09:01,859 Some gays thought that AIDS would only get attention 186 00:09:01,883 --> 00:09:03,979 if straight people had it too. 187 00:09:04,003 --> 00:09:05,243 That's what I've heard. 188 00:09:06,243 --> 00:09:07,819 And now they do. 189 00:09:07,843 --> 00:09:09,699 Are you angry that this happened? 190 00:09:09,723 --> 00:09:11,259 Of course. 191 00:09:11,283 --> 00:09:14,139 I was told that this blood transfusion had saved my life, 192 00:09:14,163 --> 00:09:15,379 but really, it was... 193 00:09:15,403 --> 00:09:16,419 On my hand. 194 00:09:16,443 --> 00:09:19,419 it was a death sentence for me and my children. 195 00:09:19,443 --> 00:09:22,379 This is Dale Jennings, News At Six. 196 00:09:22,403 --> 00:09:25,939 To the Philippines now where deposed President Ferdinand Marcos 197 00:09:25,963 --> 00:09:28,723 and his wife Imelda remain under siege. 198 00:09:36,323 --> 00:09:37,859 You first hatchet job. 199 00:09:37,883 --> 00:09:40,339 Congrats. It's quite a milestone. 200 00:09:40,363 --> 00:09:41,340 Sorry? 201 00:09:41,364 --> 00:09:42,459 You don't actually believe 202 00:09:42,483 --> 00:09:44,099 that there's people deliberately out there 203 00:09:44,123 --> 00:09:45,579 poisoning the blood banks, do you? 204 00:09:45,603 --> 00:09:47,899 I don't always get a final say about what goes into the edit. 205 00:09:47,923 --> 00:09:49,603 Well, you do get a say, though, don't you? 206 00:09:51,363 --> 00:09:53,819 I know it's a sensitive issue for you. 207 00:09:53,843 --> 00:09:56,163 Nah. It's just shit journalism. 208 00:10:02,203 --> 00:10:04,123 Oh, hell of a story, mate. 209 00:10:05,123 --> 00:10:07,363 Brave. Thanks. 210 00:10:08,603 --> 00:10:09,963 Just hope you washed your hands. 211 00:10:16,523 --> 00:10:18,162 Yep. 212 00:10:20,843 --> 00:10:22,723 Night. See ya, mate. 213 00:10:34,683 --> 00:10:36,979 You sure that she... she said it on the record? 214 00:10:37,003 --> 00:10:38,443 Of course. OK. 215 00:10:39,643 --> 00:10:42,419 Look, I admit that bit was bad, but it was definitely on the record. 216 00:10:42,443 --> 00:10:44,163 OK, OK. 217 00:10:47,363 --> 00:10:48,963 You were still really great. 218 00:10:50,323 --> 00:10:51,563 But? 219 00:10:52,403 --> 00:10:53,523 No buts. 220 00:10:55,323 --> 00:10:57,299 I can tell you've got more thoughts. 221 00:10:57,323 --> 00:10:58,659 I don't. 222 00:10:58,683 --> 00:11:01,162 You have a version in your head that you think's better. 223 00:11:03,683 --> 00:11:04,803 Just tell me. 224 00:11:08,043 --> 00:11:10,019 I probably would have asked more about the marriage... 225 00:11:10,043 --> 00:11:11,419 I knew it! 'Cause I just... 226 00:11:11,443 --> 00:11:13,139 I just... That's the only thing. 227 00:11:13,163 --> 00:11:15,019 I knew it. That was the only thing. 228 00:11:15,043 --> 00:11:17,563 No! It was good! It was good. 229 00:11:20,243 --> 00:11:23,499 Maybe laughing now. Just laughing. 230 00:11:23,523 --> 00:11:24,923 One more time. 231 00:11:28,403 --> 00:11:29,899 Amazing. 232 00:11:29,923 --> 00:11:32,259 That was so much better. You look beautiful. 233 00:11:32,283 --> 00:11:34,299 Just your standard Thursday morning outfit. 234 00:11:34,323 --> 00:11:36,819 Well, we decided that it's cocktail hour, so. 235 00:11:36,843 --> 00:11:38,619 We have? Yes. 236 00:11:38,643 --> 00:11:40,459 Mr Jennings, if you just want to stand beside her, 237 00:11:40,483 --> 00:11:42,379 and maybe put your hand on her shoulder? 238 00:11:42,403 --> 00:11:43,419 Sweet. 239 00:11:43,443 --> 00:11:45,859 Um, isn't the bulletin at cocktail hour, though? 240 00:11:45,883 --> 00:11:48,259 Dale, you don't have to fact check the photoshoot. 241 00:11:48,283 --> 00:11:50,219 OK, just loosening up the shoulders. 242 00:11:50,243 --> 00:11:51,979 And if you just want to pick up the martini glass, 243 00:11:52,003 --> 00:11:53,443 maybe like you're offering a toast? 244 00:11:54,443 --> 00:11:55,723 Cheers. 245 00:11:57,603 --> 00:11:59,219 Is that real gin? 246 00:11:59,243 --> 00:12:00,939 Maybe laughing now. 247 00:12:00,963 --> 00:12:03,779 Laughing. Just laughing. 248 00:12:03,803 --> 00:12:07,803 Couple in love, enjoying each other's company. 249 00:12:10,243 --> 00:12:12,139 Mate, you look like you've been kicked in the nuts. 250 00:12:12,163 --> 00:12:14,339 OK. What's wrong? What is wrong? 251 00:12:14,363 --> 00:12:16,299 It just feels a bit artificial. 252 00:12:16,323 --> 00:12:17,659 Yeah, but that's the magic of it. 253 00:12:17,683 --> 00:12:19,899 It's not us presenting who we really are. 254 00:12:19,923 --> 00:12:23,179 It's more what people might imagine us to be. 255 00:12:23,203 --> 00:12:24,419 Just relax. 256 00:12:24,443 --> 00:12:26,403 It's just supposed to be romantic and fun. 257 00:12:27,763 --> 00:12:28,779 OK. 258 00:12:28,803 --> 00:12:31,379 No tension. 259 00:12:31,403 --> 00:12:33,402 One, two, three, looking. 260 00:12:38,803 --> 00:12:40,203 One more time. 261 00:13:00,523 --> 00:13:03,339 No more lies while gay men die. 262 00:13:03,363 --> 00:13:06,179 No more lies while gay men die. 263 00:13:06,203 --> 00:13:07,859 No more lies while gay men die. 264 00:13:07,883 --> 00:13:09,219 What is this? 265 00:13:09,243 --> 00:13:11,419 No more lies while gay men die. Um... 266 00:13:11,443 --> 00:13:13,339 Should we go to the staff entrance? 267 00:13:13,363 --> 00:13:14,859 Uh... no. 268 00:13:14,883 --> 00:13:16,419 I think we'll be OK. 269 00:13:16,443 --> 00:13:18,139 It's not Caroline Gibson, is it? 270 00:13:18,163 --> 00:13:23,139 No more lies while gay men die. No more lies while gay men die. 271 00:13:23,163 --> 00:13:25,939 No more lies while gay men die. 272 00:13:25,963 --> 00:13:30,419 No more lies while gay men die. No more lies while gay men die. 273 00:13:30,443 --> 00:13:31,979 You're all liars, News At Six. 274 00:13:32,003 --> 00:13:33,299 Do a bit of research. 275 00:13:33,323 --> 00:13:34,522 Dale! 276 00:13:36,723 --> 00:13:38,842 It's Adam. Adam Lyndell. 277 00:13:47,243 --> 00:13:49,259 Did you... did you know that guy? 278 00:13:49,283 --> 00:13:51,259 He's just a research contact. 279 00:13:51,283 --> 00:13:52,819 You seen it? No. 280 00:13:52,843 --> 00:13:54,683 The protesters? The article. 281 00:13:56,003 --> 00:13:59,419 It's a whole op-ed about the quote I found. The Robert Schwab one. 282 00:13:59,443 --> 00:14:02,659 They say it was made up for some sort of anti-gay pamphlet. 283 00:14:02,683 --> 00:14:04,059 I am so sorry. 284 00:14:04,083 --> 00:14:05,979 "Throughout the coverage of this epidemic, 285 00:14:06,003 --> 00:14:08,019 "we've heard from doctors, politicians, priests, 286 00:14:08,043 --> 00:14:10,459 "but the primary victims, gay men, have been at best excluded 287 00:14:10,483 --> 00:14:11,859 "and at worst demonized." 288 00:14:11,883 --> 00:14:13,539 I mean, he's not wrong. 289 00:14:13,563 --> 00:14:14,683 Lindsay knows? 290 00:14:15,883 --> 00:14:19,059 This is what happens when you let game show girls 291 00:14:19,083 --> 00:14:21,899 and footy players front the news. 292 00:14:21,923 --> 00:14:23,539 Geoff, that's got nothing to do with that. 293 00:14:23,563 --> 00:14:25,899 That quote is solid. And Noelene found it, so it's legit. 294 00:14:25,923 --> 00:14:26,900 It's ridgy-didge, OK? 295 00:14:26,924 --> 00:14:30,619 Serious reporters, they develop an instinct for these sorts of things. 296 00:14:30,643 --> 00:14:33,299 You know if something doesn't pass the sniff test. 297 00:14:33,323 --> 00:14:36,019 Just calm down, Geoff. The Whitlam dismissal, '75. 298 00:14:36,043 --> 00:14:38,059 You remember. There was bedlam. 299 00:14:38,083 --> 00:14:40,579 There was rumours flying around everywhere. 300 00:14:40,603 --> 00:14:44,659 And some donkey in Canberra got wind that the Queen was in on it. 301 00:14:44,683 --> 00:14:46,219 You wanted to run it as fact. 302 00:14:46,243 --> 00:14:49,339 My gut told me it didn't hold water, 303 00:14:49,363 --> 00:14:50,739 so we held off. 304 00:14:50,763 --> 00:14:54,539 And guess what? I saved us the humiliation of an apology! 305 00:14:54,563 --> 00:14:57,299 Helen and Rob could never make that call! 306 00:14:57,323 --> 00:14:59,579 Listen, mate, this is a completely different situation, alright? 307 00:14:59,603 --> 00:15:01,139 Now, these people outside, 308 00:15:01,163 --> 00:15:03,419 they're just a pack of pillow biters who are whipping up trouble. 309 00:15:03,443 --> 00:15:05,259 Now, this quote is legit. 310 00:15:05,283 --> 00:15:06,499 It's solid. 311 00:15:06,523 --> 00:15:08,683 We can back it up and we're gonna do that tonight. 312 00:15:16,603 --> 00:15:17,723 Noelene! 313 00:15:20,803 --> 00:15:24,539 Noelene! That quote better be fucking watertight, you got that? 314 00:15:24,563 --> 00:15:26,699 I'm getting more articles from the Herald Library. 315 00:15:26,723 --> 00:15:29,219 I'm also checking with the blood bank and the AIDS Council. 316 00:15:29,243 --> 00:15:31,539 I'm waiting for them to call back. Well, go call them now, will you? 317 00:15:31,563 --> 00:15:34,499 We are not issuing an apology on this unless we absolutely have to. 318 00:15:34,523 --> 00:15:35,979 OK? Now, what's the follow up? 319 00:15:36,003 --> 00:15:38,139 Well, I think that we should interview the op-ed writer. 320 00:15:38,163 --> 00:15:40,019 That's insane. Why would we back away? 321 00:15:40,043 --> 00:15:41,059 It's clearly hit a nerve. 322 00:15:41,083 --> 00:15:43,059 I'm just telling you it's a recipe for disaster. 323 00:15:43,083 --> 00:15:44,979 I think that Dale should interview the op-ed writer, 324 00:15:45,003 --> 00:15:46,339 then follow up with the blood bank 325 00:15:46,363 --> 00:15:48,322 and I'll interview an AIDS sufferer... 326 00:15:50,163 --> 00:15:53,219 Yeah, I know, Dennis, but we went up last night 327 00:15:53,243 --> 00:15:55,419 and that's never happened before on an AIDS story, 328 00:15:55,443 --> 00:15:56,642 so we'll keep going. 329 00:15:59,643 --> 00:16:02,099 Caroline actually mentioned that there was problems in some schools, 330 00:16:02,123 --> 00:16:03,539 so that could be another story. 331 00:16:03,563 --> 00:16:05,379 Dale, you could maybe interview a parent. 332 00:16:05,403 --> 00:16:06,659 I'm prepping for Anzac Day. 333 00:16:06,683 --> 00:16:08,259 Oh, Jesus, Dale. 334 00:16:08,283 --> 00:16:10,283 They're throwing eggs out there now. What? 335 00:16:11,363 --> 00:16:12,699 Egged my car. 336 00:16:12,723 --> 00:16:14,283 That happen to anyone else? 337 00:16:15,363 --> 00:16:16,923 Do those protesters have AIDS? 338 00:16:18,723 --> 00:16:20,659 I wonder if there was AIDS in what they threw. 339 00:16:20,683 --> 00:16:23,323 You think they put HIV positive blood into an egg? 340 00:16:24,563 --> 00:16:25,683 Yes. 341 00:16:26,883 --> 00:16:27,963 Jesus. Come on, everybody. 342 00:16:31,483 --> 00:16:33,819 Don't back away from this. This is your story. 343 00:16:33,843 --> 00:16:36,099 Yeah, and it's a disaster. No, it's not. 344 00:16:36,123 --> 00:16:38,979 We'll get it back on track. Have you spoken to Caroline? 345 00:16:39,003 --> 00:16:41,099 You should, because all the other networks will be calling her 346 00:16:41,123 --> 00:16:42,659 and it will be very overwhelming. 347 00:16:42,683 --> 00:16:44,099 And this... this happens. 348 00:16:44,123 --> 00:16:45,779 Sometimes things blow up. 349 00:16:45,803 --> 00:16:47,163 It's gonna be OK. 350 00:17:11,883 --> 00:17:14,299 Do you have a spokesperson or an organiser? 351 00:17:14,323 --> 00:17:16,939 We don't have an organiser. We're a collective. 352 00:17:16,963 --> 00:17:19,019 OK, I understand why you're upset. 353 00:17:19,043 --> 00:17:21,219 That's why I'd like to show a different perspective. 354 00:17:21,243 --> 00:17:23,859 I'm very interested in talking to an AIDS sufferer, 355 00:17:23,883 --> 00:17:25,179 someone who's gay, 356 00:17:25,203 --> 00:17:28,499 and not just about the blood bank controversy, but about their life. 357 00:17:28,523 --> 00:17:32,499 I'm genuinely interested in putting the other perspective on air. 358 00:17:32,523 --> 00:17:34,059 My lover has AIDS. 359 00:17:34,083 --> 00:17:35,459 OK. 360 00:17:35,483 --> 00:17:38,019 Let me get your name and I'll set something up. 361 00:17:38,043 --> 00:17:39,163 Adam. 362 00:17:48,323 --> 00:17:49,483 What's wrong? 363 00:17:50,603 --> 00:17:51,683 I confirmed it. 364 00:17:52,843 --> 00:17:54,163 The article was right. 365 00:17:55,403 --> 00:17:58,979 A religious fundamentalist group in the US fabricated the quote 366 00:17:59,003 --> 00:18:01,243 for these anti-gay pamphlets. 367 00:18:02,283 --> 00:18:04,163 It spread at the start of '84. 368 00:18:05,403 --> 00:18:07,923 I found all these subsequent sources debunking it. 369 00:18:08,843 --> 00:18:10,539 Dale... 370 00:18:10,563 --> 00:18:12,123 This is really bad. It's OK. 371 00:18:15,123 --> 00:18:18,563 I was the reporter. Lindsay signed off on it. 372 00:18:21,123 --> 00:18:22,699 Have you told Dennis? 373 00:18:22,723 --> 00:18:24,003 No. 374 00:18:33,763 --> 00:18:36,083 Noelene confirmed the quote was false. 375 00:18:46,523 --> 00:18:48,843 We've confirmed that the quote was false. 376 00:18:54,723 --> 00:18:55,923 Fuck! 377 00:19:01,003 --> 00:19:03,323 Right. We are doing an apology. 378 00:19:04,723 --> 00:19:06,803 And you're coming to see me after the bulletin. 379 00:19:15,643 --> 00:19:22,899 27, 33 and the supplementary number is 26. 380 00:19:22,923 --> 00:19:26,139 And don't forget that tomorrow is a public holiday for Anzac Day. 381 00:19:26,163 --> 00:19:27,619 It certainly is, Rob. 382 00:19:27,643 --> 00:19:31,539 So all dividends will be announced after the long weekend. 383 00:19:31,563 --> 00:19:34,179 But before we leave you this evening, a clarification. 384 00:19:34,203 --> 00:19:36,659 Last night, the News At Six aired a story 385 00:19:36,683 --> 00:19:39,739 about a woman who contracted HIV from the blood bank. 386 00:19:39,763 --> 00:19:43,939 A statement attributed to the late US activist Robert Schwab 387 00:19:43,963 --> 00:19:46,179 was incorrect. 388 00:19:46,203 --> 00:19:49,123 We apologise unreservedly. 389 00:19:50,483 --> 00:19:52,619 We'll leave you tonight... First apology in years. 390 00:19:52,643 --> 00:19:56,619 musicians from China, touring Australia for a series of concerts. 391 00:19:56,643 --> 00:19:59,299 I'm Helen Norville. And I'm Rob Rickards. 392 00:19:59,323 --> 00:20:01,299 Good night. Good night. 393 00:20:01,323 --> 00:20:04,059 I suppose that's the best they can muster. 394 00:20:04,083 --> 00:20:06,179 Well, I'm changing the channel. 395 00:20:06,203 --> 00:20:10,819 Sale Of The Century or there's a doco on Japan. 396 00:20:10,843 --> 00:20:15,059 You know, the thing that kills me is there is a great story there. 397 00:20:15,083 --> 00:20:16,819 You'd never know it from that bulletin, 398 00:20:16,843 --> 00:20:19,299 but they have stumbled on to one of the most critical stories 399 00:20:19,323 --> 00:20:20,979 of our time. 400 00:20:21,003 --> 00:20:23,059 And the gays have put society at risk. 401 00:20:23,083 --> 00:20:24,619 Of course they have. 402 00:20:24,643 --> 00:20:27,099 And no news outlet will touch it. 403 00:20:27,123 --> 00:20:28,419 Instead of exposing it, 404 00:20:28,443 --> 00:20:31,699 they've muddied the waters with... with conspiracy theories, 405 00:20:31,723 --> 00:20:32,939 misquotes... 406 00:20:32,963 --> 00:20:35,339 But it reflects well on you, doesn't it? 407 00:20:35,363 --> 00:20:38,419 A month without you and look where they've ended up! 408 00:20:38,443 --> 00:20:40,699 Apologising, grovelling. 409 00:20:40,723 --> 00:20:44,963 Best thing you can do is sit back and let them fall apart. 410 00:20:54,923 --> 00:20:57,043 Noelene. A word. 411 00:21:09,123 --> 00:21:11,723 Ah, close the door after yourself, will you, please? 412 00:21:17,443 --> 00:21:18,443 Well. 413 00:21:19,923 --> 00:21:21,859 It's a sad old shitshow, isn't it? 414 00:21:21,883 --> 00:21:26,259 Lindsay, I am so, so sorry. 415 00:21:26,283 --> 00:21:27,899 The quote came up a couple of times, 416 00:21:27,923 --> 00:21:30,779 so I didn't think I needed to cross check it further. 417 00:21:30,803 --> 00:21:33,779 I promise this will never happen again. 418 00:21:33,803 --> 00:21:35,043 Look... 419 00:21:36,483 --> 00:21:37,883 easy mistake to make. 420 00:21:40,403 --> 00:21:42,339 Yes, still, I wanted to stress... 421 00:21:42,363 --> 00:21:46,419 But it was your mistake and we had to apologise. 422 00:21:46,443 --> 00:21:48,003 So, I'm sorry. 423 00:21:51,203 --> 00:21:52,283 You gotta go. 424 00:21:56,443 --> 00:21:59,523 Lots of typing work out there. You'll be fine. 425 00:22:03,723 --> 00:22:05,459 Thank you for the opportunity. 426 00:22:05,483 --> 00:22:06,523 Not at all. 427 00:22:18,123 --> 00:22:19,419 Mate, not now. 428 00:22:19,443 --> 00:22:21,059 Noelene was just doing what she was asked. 429 00:22:21,083 --> 00:22:22,899 Mate... Can't you just put her on suspension? 430 00:22:22,923 --> 00:22:24,459 You wanted to run the quote. I was the... 431 00:22:24,483 --> 00:22:26,699 Wake up to yourself, ya drip! 432 00:22:26,723 --> 00:22:29,363 If you weren't Mr Helen Norville, you'd be out on your arse too. 433 00:22:30,803 --> 00:22:33,923 So I'd tread very carefully, young Dale. 434 00:22:36,163 --> 00:22:37,363 Thin ice. 435 00:22:46,003 --> 00:22:49,099 Noelene, I'm gonna talk to Helen. It's OK. 436 00:22:49,123 --> 00:22:52,419 No, it's not. She won't stand for it and neither will Rob. 437 00:22:52,443 --> 00:22:56,779 Thank you, but I don't want to cause any more trouble. 438 00:22:56,803 --> 00:22:58,339 I'll... I'll... I'll do a ring around. 439 00:22:58,363 --> 00:23:00,139 There might be something going at another network. 440 00:23:00,163 --> 00:23:01,243 Thank you. 441 00:24:17,803 --> 00:24:19,219 Hello? 442 00:24:19,243 --> 00:24:21,139 Lindsay sacked Noelene. 443 00:24:21,163 --> 00:24:22,140 What? 444 00:24:22,164 --> 00:24:23,699 Yeah, right after the bulletin. 445 00:24:23,723 --> 00:24:25,979 He wouldn't listen to me, so can you call him? 446 00:24:26,003 --> 00:24:28,499 Are you still at work? No, I'm at home. 447 00:24:28,523 --> 00:24:30,739 Actually, do you know what? Call Rob. 448 00:24:30,763 --> 00:24:32,683 Lindsay might pay more attention to him. 449 00:24:33,963 --> 00:24:36,939 Um, Dale, I'm making dinner for us. 450 00:24:36,963 --> 00:24:39,379 I've got to be up before dawn. I've got a 15-hour day. 451 00:24:39,403 --> 00:24:40,403 I'm sorry. 452 00:24:41,443 --> 00:24:43,819 Is there something wrong? Yes. 453 00:24:43,843 --> 00:24:45,939 I fucked up with my reporting and my colleague lost her job. 454 00:24:45,963 --> 00:24:47,099 Isn't that enough? 455 00:24:47,123 --> 00:24:49,579 I just think maybe if you come over here, we can talk about... 456 00:24:49,603 --> 00:24:51,539 No. No, Helen, I can't. 457 00:24:51,563 --> 00:24:53,659 I've gotta be up at three. 458 00:24:53,683 --> 00:24:55,259 Sorry. 459 00:24:55,283 --> 00:24:56,563 Goodnight. 460 00:24:57,563 --> 00:24:58,642 Night. 461 00:25:58,003 --> 00:25:59,179 Hi. Hi, Adam. 462 00:25:59,203 --> 00:26:00,339 Come in. 463 00:26:00,363 --> 00:26:01,899 Thank you so much for agreeing to this. 464 00:26:01,923 --> 00:26:03,419 Oh, we're lucky. 465 00:26:03,443 --> 00:26:05,523 It's a good day for Russell. Relatively. 466 00:26:06,403 --> 00:26:09,539 Russ, this is Helen Norville. 467 00:26:09,563 --> 00:26:12,659 Hi. It's a pleasure to meet you. 468 00:26:12,683 --> 00:26:15,259 I hear you might be putting me on the telly. 469 00:26:15,283 --> 00:26:17,482 Uh, let's just see how we go, eh? 470 00:26:19,643 --> 00:26:21,699 I thought you were gonna make me a star. 471 00:26:21,723 --> 00:26:24,499 Well. You think it's too late for me. 472 00:26:24,523 --> 00:26:25,523 Never. 473 00:26:26,763 --> 00:26:29,419 Is the other reporter coming? The Bendigo boy? 474 00:26:29,443 --> 00:26:32,779 No. You can't have too many visitors. 475 00:26:32,803 --> 00:26:34,779 I forgot that you'd had contact with Dale. 476 00:26:34,803 --> 00:26:36,539 Was that for this issue? 477 00:26:36,563 --> 00:26:37,899 No. 478 00:26:37,923 --> 00:26:39,603 Actually, I went to high school with Dale. 479 00:26:40,843 --> 00:26:42,403 In Bendigo, hence the... 480 00:26:43,923 --> 00:26:46,179 Were you friends at school? 481 00:26:46,203 --> 00:26:48,123 Uh, I don't know. 482 00:26:49,123 --> 00:26:52,283 He's not exactly the most popular alumnus. 483 00:26:54,203 --> 00:26:56,563 Um, cuppa? Or water? 484 00:26:58,643 --> 00:27:00,083 Glass of water, please. 485 00:27:08,403 --> 00:27:10,099 How did you two meet? 486 00:27:10,123 --> 00:27:13,579 Oh, well, we were both working at the university. 487 00:27:13,603 --> 00:27:15,099 When was it, darling? 488 00:27:15,123 --> 00:27:17,539 '82? Yes, it was. 489 00:27:17,563 --> 00:27:18,723 In '82. 490 00:27:19,763 --> 00:27:22,939 And we locked eyes at a faculty drinks. 491 00:27:22,963 --> 00:27:26,259 But at the time, Adam wasn't out, 492 00:27:26,283 --> 00:27:30,019 so the whole thing was very secretive. 493 00:27:30,043 --> 00:27:33,122 Almost like we were having some thrilling affair. 494 00:27:35,643 --> 00:27:36,643 Thank you. 495 00:27:38,403 --> 00:27:41,299 So may I... may I ask about the diagnosis? 496 00:27:41,323 --> 00:27:42,643 That's what you're here for. 497 00:27:43,843 --> 00:27:45,619 How did that happen? 498 00:27:45,643 --> 00:27:48,099 I'd had a bad run of colds, 499 00:27:48,123 --> 00:27:50,523 but I'd been putting off seeing a doctor. 500 00:27:51,603 --> 00:27:52,763 I think... 501 00:27:53,683 --> 00:27:54,883 part of me knew. 502 00:27:57,243 --> 00:28:02,163 But then I bit the bullet and three weeks later, the results came back. 503 00:28:04,003 --> 00:28:05,779 What was it like for you, Adam? 504 00:28:05,803 --> 00:28:07,202 Getting tested? 505 00:28:08,723 --> 00:28:09,923 Awful. 506 00:28:11,763 --> 00:28:13,883 Waiting for the results was agony. 507 00:28:15,163 --> 00:28:17,123 And I started bargaining with myself. 508 00:28:18,403 --> 00:28:20,579 I said, "If the test results come back negative, 509 00:28:20,603 --> 00:28:22,859 "then I'll never sleep with another man again." 510 00:28:22,883 --> 00:28:25,003 And if they came back positive? 511 00:28:29,523 --> 00:28:30,963 I'd end it. 512 00:28:32,003 --> 00:28:33,283 With Russ? 513 00:28:37,803 --> 00:28:38,803 My life. 514 00:28:44,243 --> 00:28:47,179 So, I really want to put your story on camera. 515 00:28:47,203 --> 00:28:48,739 Now, if you're open to it. 516 00:28:48,763 --> 00:28:51,419 I think I could get a crew here, maybe even today. 517 00:28:51,443 --> 00:28:52,659 Ah, I don't know. 518 00:28:52,683 --> 00:28:55,123 It could be, a small crew. Only if it's live. 519 00:28:56,843 --> 00:28:58,619 I'd do it... 520 00:28:58,643 --> 00:29:00,219 if it's live to air. 521 00:29:00,243 --> 00:29:01,779 Russ... No. 522 00:29:01,803 --> 00:29:05,539 I don't want to be chopped up and spliced between Fred Nile... 523 00:29:05,563 --> 00:29:07,979 We wouldn't water you down. We need to talk about this. 524 00:29:08,003 --> 00:29:10,083 I know how it goes. 525 00:29:11,083 --> 00:29:13,499 You might have the best of intentions, 526 00:29:13,523 --> 00:29:14,859 but your boss has done... 527 00:29:14,883 --> 00:29:16,859 I can look at getting a live cross out here, 528 00:29:16,883 --> 00:29:18,539 but... it's a bit... 529 00:29:18,563 --> 00:29:22,499 I want to be in the studio and I want to sit at that desk. 530 00:29:22,523 --> 00:29:23,539 Russ. 531 00:29:23,563 --> 00:29:25,899 Do you have those makeup mirrors 532 00:29:25,923 --> 00:29:27,843 with the light bulbs all around them? 533 00:29:29,323 --> 00:29:31,019 Yes, we do. 534 00:29:31,043 --> 00:29:32,123 Well, then. 535 00:29:33,803 --> 00:29:35,123 Make me a star. 536 00:29:38,163 --> 00:29:41,019 Hey. They charged my car. 537 00:29:41,043 --> 00:29:42,859 Spat on it. Who? The protesters? 538 00:29:42,883 --> 00:29:46,259 Yeah, they yelled so hard, bits of spit landed on the windscreen. 539 00:29:46,283 --> 00:29:48,099 I just... I don't understand, mate. 540 00:29:48,123 --> 00:29:50,219 We apologised. Why are they still even here? 541 00:29:50,243 --> 00:29:51,939 Mate, don't worry about it. 542 00:29:51,963 --> 00:29:54,419 Well, can't we get the coppers to move 'em on or something? 543 00:29:54,443 --> 00:29:56,299 Yeah, well, you're going to speak to two of them tonight, 544 00:29:56,323 --> 00:29:58,059 so hopefully that'll shut the door on it. 545 00:29:58,083 --> 00:29:59,299 What? 546 00:29:59,323 --> 00:30:00,923 Helen chased down an interview. 547 00:30:02,643 --> 00:30:05,499 An AIDS patient on the desk. 548 00:30:05,523 --> 00:30:06,643 Yes. 549 00:30:07,843 --> 00:30:09,459 Well, Helen could do it alone, couldn't she? 550 00:30:09,483 --> 00:30:11,179 Well, how do you think that's going to work, Rob? 551 00:30:11,203 --> 00:30:13,379 We're gonna cut to the desk and you're just not there. 552 00:30:13,403 --> 00:30:14,859 Yeah. 553 00:30:14,883 --> 00:30:16,259 Mate, it's just three minutes. 554 00:30:16,283 --> 00:30:18,123 We'll write down the questions. You'll be fine. 555 00:30:19,843 --> 00:30:21,339 Where's Noelene? 556 00:30:21,363 --> 00:30:22,963 It was, uh, Lindsay's call, not mine. 557 00:30:25,083 --> 00:30:26,659 What do you mean? 558 00:30:26,683 --> 00:30:29,339 She got sacked late, over the misquotes. 559 00:30:29,363 --> 00:30:31,259 After last night's bulletin. 560 00:30:31,283 --> 00:30:32,803 As I said, wasn't my call. 561 00:30:33,963 --> 00:30:35,179 Rob, just don't... 562 00:30:35,203 --> 00:30:37,499 Did you sack Noelene? Sorry? 563 00:30:37,523 --> 00:30:40,659 This place is bullshit. You can't sack Noelene. 564 00:30:40,683 --> 00:30:42,859 She does 10 times as much work as anyone else here. 565 00:30:42,883 --> 00:30:45,019 Come one, Rob. Mate, I don't like it either. 566 00:30:45,043 --> 00:30:46,419 But upstairs wanted a head to roll 567 00:30:46,443 --> 00:30:47,939 and she had the most expendable head. 568 00:30:47,963 --> 00:30:49,939 Well, get her on the phone. Get her back. 569 00:30:49,963 --> 00:30:51,899 Don't you come in here, yelping orders at me. 570 00:30:51,923 --> 00:30:54,299 If you don't her back right now, I'm happy to... 571 00:30:54,323 --> 00:30:55,939 What are you gonna do, son? What are you gonna do? 572 00:30:55,963 --> 00:30:57,859 Well, I'll fuckin' walk is what I'll do. I don't care. 573 00:30:57,883 --> 00:30:58,860 Yeah? Yeah. 574 00:30:58,884 --> 00:31:00,083 It's done. 575 00:31:00,923 --> 00:31:02,499 Righto, mate. 576 00:31:02,523 --> 00:31:03,859 That's how you're gonna treat people. 577 00:31:03,883 --> 00:31:06,539 Well! 578 00:31:06,563 --> 00:31:08,739 Very fuckin' professional, Rob. 579 00:31:08,763 --> 00:31:09,979 Chuckin' a hissy fit. No, no. 580 00:31:10,003 --> 00:31:12,019 You find someone else to sit on your desk. 581 00:31:12,043 --> 00:31:13,859 Oh, come on! 582 00:31:13,883 --> 00:31:14,979 Hey! 583 00:31:15,003 --> 00:31:16,339 You fancy her, don't ya? 584 00:31:16,363 --> 00:31:19,859 Son, you are scraping the bottom of the fuckin' barrel. 585 00:31:19,883 --> 00:31:21,603 Oh, you... Righto, mate. 586 00:31:33,483 --> 00:31:34,843 You poor bastard. 587 00:31:36,963 --> 00:31:40,163 Well, piss off back to Echuca, you sausage-roll-munching bastard. 588 00:32:00,563 --> 00:32:02,859 Need a moment? 589 00:32:02,883 --> 00:32:05,483 I need a fucking decade. 590 00:32:08,323 --> 00:32:09,763 Should I call Noelene? 591 00:32:17,083 --> 00:32:18,539 Yes. 592 00:32:18,563 --> 00:32:23,283 And you can inform her her suspension... is over. 593 00:32:38,483 --> 00:32:39,603 Hello? 594 00:32:40,723 --> 00:32:41,883 Is Noelene there? 595 00:32:42,723 --> 00:32:44,083 Noelene Kim? 596 00:33:14,443 --> 00:33:16,043 OK, just do it. 597 00:33:19,643 --> 00:33:21,139 Rob! Evelyn. 598 00:33:21,163 --> 00:33:25,843 Um, I'm sorry to turn up unannounced. 599 00:33:27,043 --> 00:33:29,843 I don't suppose Geoff's free at the minute, is he? 600 00:33:31,283 --> 00:33:33,043 Yeah. Come in. Thanks. 601 00:33:37,483 --> 00:33:39,963 Good job, darling. You're the eucalyptus hunter. 602 00:33:42,363 --> 00:33:44,099 Well, hey, you look pretty good, Cap. 603 00:33:44,123 --> 00:33:45,579 Well... 604 00:33:45,603 --> 00:33:48,099 they've got me, uh, wrapped up in cotton wool, 605 00:33:48,123 --> 00:33:49,763 but I'm getting there. 606 00:33:50,883 --> 00:33:52,123 Listen, um... 607 00:33:53,283 --> 00:33:55,219 I'm sorry for not coming around to see you sooner. 608 00:33:55,243 --> 00:33:57,123 It's just been... Of course. Of course. 609 00:33:57,963 --> 00:34:02,219 To be honest, I've been imagining you sitting up there watching me 610 00:34:02,243 --> 00:34:05,739 and thinking, "Who is this joker who's taken my job?" 611 00:34:05,763 --> 00:34:06,939 Not at all. 612 00:34:06,963 --> 00:34:08,979 Well, I want you to know that I know... 613 00:34:09,003 --> 00:34:10,179 how shithouse I'm doing. 614 00:34:10,203 --> 00:34:11,579 It's... 615 00:34:11,603 --> 00:34:13,139 It's just... 616 00:34:13,163 --> 00:34:14,683 It's never a job I wanted. 617 00:34:15,683 --> 00:34:17,659 And I certainly never lobbied for it. 618 00:34:17,683 --> 00:34:18,843 I know that. 619 00:34:20,043 --> 00:34:22,339 And given the circumstances, you've done very well 620 00:34:22,363 --> 00:34:24,859 and you will continue to grow. 621 00:34:24,883 --> 00:34:25,899 No doubt. 622 00:34:25,923 --> 00:34:28,659 Actually, I think I'm done, 'cause, uh... 623 00:34:28,683 --> 00:34:30,883 yeah, I walked out today. 624 00:34:32,483 --> 00:34:33,499 What? 625 00:34:33,523 --> 00:34:35,259 Well, it's the blowout from this AIDS story. 626 00:34:35,283 --> 00:34:37,419 There's riots outside the building. 627 00:34:37,443 --> 00:34:38,819 Noelene got the sack 628 00:34:38,843 --> 00:34:40,219 and now they want me, right, 629 00:34:40,243 --> 00:34:44,259 to interview one of the protesters with AIDS live on the desk. 630 00:34:44,283 --> 00:34:46,043 And I'm... I'm not up for it. 631 00:34:47,083 --> 00:34:49,819 You put me with a sportsman and I can go for hours, 632 00:34:49,843 --> 00:34:51,043 but this situation, it's... 633 00:34:55,683 --> 00:34:56,723 I'm not you. 634 00:34:57,923 --> 00:34:59,123 I'll never be. 635 00:35:00,323 --> 00:35:01,739 And I know that. 636 00:35:01,763 --> 00:35:02,923 And, uh... 637 00:35:04,323 --> 00:35:05,683 I want you to know... 638 00:35:07,163 --> 00:35:08,723 that I know that. 639 00:35:18,763 --> 00:35:20,162 I appreciate that, Rob. 640 00:35:21,323 --> 00:35:23,443 It takes a very decent man to be that honest. 641 00:35:24,323 --> 00:35:25,443 Well done. 642 00:35:27,483 --> 00:35:28,483 Evelyn? 643 00:35:29,483 --> 00:35:30,723 Lay out a suit. 644 00:35:33,563 --> 00:35:36,002 New runsheet. This is now after the AIDS interview. 645 00:35:38,803 --> 00:35:39,883 AIDS interview? 646 00:35:43,923 --> 00:35:47,243 Do you wanna have one last look at this parade story or are you happy? 647 00:35:49,523 --> 00:35:51,619 Dale? Ah, it's fine. 648 00:35:51,643 --> 00:35:54,363 Great! Let's move on to the dawn service. 649 00:35:56,803 --> 00:35:59,003 Adam, Russell, just this way. 650 00:36:02,843 --> 00:36:05,162 Just come through here, if you like. 651 00:36:07,643 --> 00:36:09,843 Do you need a hand? We're fine, thanks. 652 00:36:13,123 --> 00:36:15,259 You may need everything in that kit of yours. 653 00:36:15,283 --> 00:36:17,763 Nah, we'll have you glowing in no time. 654 00:36:19,603 --> 00:36:21,203 Just in here? 655 00:36:23,923 --> 00:36:26,043 Oh, yes. Yep. 656 00:36:27,043 --> 00:36:28,323 Just take a seat. 657 00:36:35,083 --> 00:36:38,419 You can't get it, by the way, just doing his make-up. 658 00:36:38,443 --> 00:36:41,059 Oh, yeah, I know that. 659 00:36:41,083 --> 00:36:44,219 Less talk, more make-up. 660 00:36:44,243 --> 00:36:45,563 Alright. 661 00:36:46,563 --> 00:36:50,139 Tonight, Australia commemorates Anzac Day. 662 00:36:50,163 --> 00:36:52,259 From the dawn service to the parade, 663 00:36:52,283 --> 00:36:54,659 a record number of Australians lined the streets 664 00:36:54,683 --> 00:36:58,019 to honour those who have made the ultimate sacrifice. 665 00:36:58,043 --> 00:37:00,339 It's about a nation, it's about a country. 666 00:37:00,363 --> 00:37:02,579 And living with the AIDS virus. 667 00:37:02,603 --> 00:37:05,699 It's feared, it's debated, it's misunderstood. 668 00:37:05,723 --> 00:37:08,499 But for homosexual couple, Russell and Adam, 669 00:37:08,523 --> 00:37:11,099 AIDS isn't a headline, it's their life. 670 00:37:11,123 --> 00:37:14,619 We'll be speaking to them later on in the program. 671 00:37:14,643 --> 00:37:17,059 And from all of us at News at 6, 672 00:37:17,083 --> 00:37:20,019 a very warm welcome back to you, Geoff. 673 00:37:20,043 --> 00:37:21,179 Thank you, Helen. 674 00:37:21,203 --> 00:37:24,299 And to all the viewers who sent cards, flowers and well wishes... 675 00:37:24,323 --> 00:37:26,963 Blah, blah, bloody blah. ..a very, very sincere thank you. 676 00:37:30,323 --> 00:37:33,779 A huge turnout for Anzac Day marches around the country 677 00:37:33,803 --> 00:37:35,979 has surprised even the RSL. 678 00:37:36,003 --> 00:37:37,419 Dale Jennings reports. 679 00:37:37,443 --> 00:37:39,579 Thousands of people... And we're clear! 680 00:37:39,603 --> 00:37:42,899 Uh, if I could have my AIDS gentlemen around, please? 681 00:37:42,923 --> 00:37:45,123 And to think about those who made it home too. 682 00:37:46,683 --> 00:37:48,483 Just up the stairs here, gents. 683 00:37:49,523 --> 00:37:51,539 Russell, you're here, and Adam, you're here. 684 00:37:51,563 --> 00:37:54,339 Thank you again. Hi, Russell. Hi. 685 00:37:54,363 --> 00:37:55,859 Thank you. 686 00:37:55,883 --> 00:37:57,523 This is... Geoff Walters. Welcome. 687 00:37:58,843 --> 00:38:01,059 I, uh, I thought it was just with you. 688 00:38:01,083 --> 00:38:06,499 Uh... live interviews are conducted by us both. 689 00:38:06,523 --> 00:38:07,979 This is a really special bulletin 690 00:38:08,003 --> 00:38:10,339 'cause this is Geoff's first since returning. 691 00:38:10,363 --> 00:38:12,403 Oh, lucky us. And we are on in 20. 692 00:38:13,723 --> 00:38:15,779 Adam, what should I call you? 693 00:38:15,803 --> 00:38:17,819 Companion? Friend? 694 00:38:17,843 --> 00:38:18,820 Lover. 695 00:38:18,844 --> 00:38:20,483 And in 10. 696 00:38:21,483 --> 00:38:24,523 On my hand in five, four... 697 00:38:26,763 --> 00:38:29,379 Dale Jennings, News at 6. 698 00:38:29,403 --> 00:38:32,899 It's the greatest health crisis to face the country this century. 699 00:38:32,923 --> 00:38:36,859 Hundreds of Australians are now infected with the AIDS virus, 700 00:38:36,883 --> 00:38:40,259 and experts predict it will soon be thousands. 701 00:38:40,283 --> 00:38:43,979 Among those scores, Russell and his companion Adam. 702 00:38:44,003 --> 00:38:46,379 They join us in the studio tonight. 703 00:38:46,403 --> 00:38:48,099 Welcome. 704 00:38:48,123 --> 00:38:51,203 Russell, can you explain your diagnosis? 705 00:38:52,123 --> 00:38:54,579 Uh, well, there's a few. 706 00:38:54,603 --> 00:38:59,099 Um, stomach cancer, which is what's making me sick. 707 00:38:59,123 --> 00:39:01,099 Also AIDS. 708 00:39:01,123 --> 00:39:03,499 How severe is it at the moment? 709 00:39:03,523 --> 00:39:06,442 Well, I'm not about to go dancing, put it that way. 710 00:39:07,563 --> 00:39:10,219 I have my good days and my bad days. 711 00:39:10,243 --> 00:39:12,459 But I'm very lucky. 712 00:39:12,483 --> 00:39:16,379 You don't usually think of an AIDS sufferer as being lucky. 713 00:39:16,403 --> 00:39:19,483 But my lover, Adam... 714 00:39:20,563 --> 00:39:22,923 has been a huge support to me. 715 00:39:23,923 --> 00:39:26,299 Some people have to go through this alone, 716 00:39:26,323 --> 00:39:28,179 which I just can't imagine. 717 00:39:28,203 --> 00:39:30,659 When your results came back positive, 718 00:39:30,683 --> 00:39:32,339 how did that impact you? 719 00:39:32,363 --> 00:39:34,739 It was horrific. 720 00:39:34,763 --> 00:39:37,499 All of a sudden, you're staring down your own mortality 721 00:39:37,523 --> 00:39:39,163 at the age of 35. 722 00:39:40,363 --> 00:39:42,059 But the worst part, by far, 723 00:39:42,083 --> 00:39:43,939 was knowing that I'd put Adam at risk. 724 00:39:43,963 --> 00:39:47,499 But, Adam, you are not infected. 725 00:39:47,523 --> 00:39:49,539 Is that right? That's right. 726 00:39:49,563 --> 00:39:52,779 I got tested right after Russell found out 727 00:39:52,803 --> 00:39:55,419 and, um, well, waiting for those results, 728 00:39:55,443 --> 00:39:58,099 that was the worst time in my life. 729 00:39:58,123 --> 00:40:00,139 And I'm ashamed to say that... 730 00:40:00,163 --> 00:40:02,003 Sorry, sorry, just to go back. 731 00:40:03,443 --> 00:40:05,579 As a loyal long-term couple, 732 00:40:05,603 --> 00:40:08,939 how do you account for the fact that one of you contracted the virus 733 00:40:08,963 --> 00:40:11,539 and the other one did not? 734 00:40:11,563 --> 00:40:15,762 Well, we were a couple, but we were not a monogamous couple. 735 00:40:17,323 --> 00:40:20,419 Adam, did you know that Russell was non-monogamous? 736 00:40:20,443 --> 00:40:21,979 Yes, I did. 737 00:40:22,003 --> 00:40:23,939 Adam, you were saying while you were waiting... 738 00:40:23,963 --> 00:40:26,139 Were you angry with Russell 739 00:40:26,163 --> 00:40:28,403 because of the huge risk he exposed you to? 740 00:40:29,563 --> 00:40:30,819 No. 741 00:40:30,843 --> 00:40:32,419 No? 742 00:40:32,443 --> 00:40:35,259 Russell, do you regret your lack of monogamy? 743 00:40:35,283 --> 00:40:37,899 No, not at all. Not at all. 744 00:40:37,923 --> 00:40:41,499 My only regret is that I wish we'd known about the virus back then. 745 00:40:41,523 --> 00:40:44,779 Well, amongst the public at large, 746 00:40:44,803 --> 00:40:47,899 there's the impression that gay men have spread this disease, 747 00:40:47,923 --> 00:40:50,019 putting the whole community at risk 748 00:40:50,043 --> 00:40:53,459 because of promiscuity and carelessness. 749 00:40:53,483 --> 00:40:57,899 Now, even despite the terrifying price that you've paid, 750 00:40:57,923 --> 00:41:00,659 you still wouldn't endorse monogamy? 751 00:41:00,683 --> 00:41:02,259 No, no. 752 00:41:02,283 --> 00:41:04,163 I would endorse safe sex. 753 00:41:05,403 --> 00:41:07,819 Adam, you've been caring for Russell at home... 754 00:41:07,843 --> 00:41:10,499 Imagine a mother whose young children have AIDS. 755 00:41:10,523 --> 00:41:13,139 A mother who's devastated... Come on. 756 00:41:13,163 --> 00:41:16,179 because a promiscuous gay man donated blood. 757 00:41:16,203 --> 00:41:17,699 What would you say to them? Fucking hell! 758 00:41:17,723 --> 00:41:19,859 Maybe that heart attack's done him some good! 759 00:41:19,883 --> 00:41:23,379 What would you say to a mother who's about to lose her young children? 760 00:41:23,403 --> 00:41:26,459 Well, I would extend my greatest sympathy. 761 00:41:26,483 --> 00:41:28,699 What would you say to Adam's mother 762 00:41:28,723 --> 00:41:31,979 whose son's life you put at risk by your behaviour? 763 00:41:32,003 --> 00:41:34,579 I think we should move on to... My mother... 764 00:41:34,603 --> 00:41:37,163 in fact, my whole family, don't speak to me. 765 00:41:40,323 --> 00:41:42,179 That must be very, very difficult. 766 00:41:42,203 --> 00:41:43,563 Yeah. 767 00:41:46,243 --> 00:41:47,403 It's agony. 768 00:41:49,843 --> 00:41:52,243 But I've spent most of my life trying to avoid it. 769 00:41:53,403 --> 00:41:55,803 But in the end, denying the truth about myself... 770 00:41:57,923 --> 00:41:59,483 that was even worse. 771 00:42:01,323 --> 00:42:04,219 Russell, Adam, I'm afraid that's all we have time for tonight. 772 00:42:04,243 --> 00:42:05,699 Thank you both very much. 773 00:42:05,723 --> 00:42:07,923 We'll be right back after the break. 774 00:42:09,243 --> 00:42:10,699 Bugger me, I can tell you, 775 00:42:10,723 --> 00:42:12,979 I have not seen this bloke this sharp since the 1970s. 776 00:42:13,003 --> 00:42:14,819 He's grown a set in hospital, that's what he's done. 777 00:42:14,843 --> 00:42:16,962 Come on, hey! 778 00:42:18,523 --> 00:42:19,683 And clear! 779 00:42:23,843 --> 00:42:25,923 I am so sorry. 780 00:42:26,923 --> 00:42:29,819 Adam, Russell, I didn't know that Geoff was gonna be at the bulletin. 781 00:42:29,843 --> 00:42:31,339 I didn't think that he was gonna take... 782 00:42:31,363 --> 00:42:33,859 If your goal was to subdue those protests, 783 00:42:33,883 --> 00:42:37,179 I suspect you might have fallen a little short. 784 00:42:37,203 --> 00:42:39,019 Is Dale here? 785 00:42:39,043 --> 00:42:41,219 Uh, I don't think so, no. 786 00:42:41,243 --> 00:42:43,363 Could I get you to pass on a message from me? 787 00:42:44,683 --> 00:42:46,019 Sure. 788 00:42:46,043 --> 00:42:47,579 Just... 789 00:42:47,603 --> 00:42:48,803 sorry. 790 00:42:49,803 --> 00:42:50,883 Sorry. 791 00:42:55,563 --> 00:42:56,739 I'll call you tomorrow 792 00:42:56,763 --> 00:42:58,299 and maybe come around to your house to see you. 793 00:42:58,323 --> 00:42:59,939 Oh, darling... 794 00:42:59,963 --> 00:43:02,859 we've both heard far worse before 795 00:43:02,883 --> 00:43:04,363 and we will again. 796 00:43:06,683 --> 00:43:08,283 Helen, 20 seconds. 797 00:43:15,443 --> 00:43:18,379 Hello, you've reached Dale Jennings. 798 00:43:18,403 --> 00:43:19,899 I can't take your call right now, 799 00:43:19,923 --> 00:43:22,219 but if you leave me a message with your details, 800 00:43:22,243 --> 00:43:23,819 I'll get back to you. 801 00:43:23,843 --> 00:43:25,923 Dale, it's Mum. 802 00:43:27,363 --> 00:43:28,723 Could you... 803 00:43:29,763 --> 00:43:32,523 Could you give me a ring, please, just when you... 804 00:43:34,203 --> 00:43:35,203 Hi, Mum. 805 00:43:36,923 --> 00:43:38,403 You saw the... Yeah. 806 00:43:39,603 --> 00:43:41,019 I had nothing to do with it. 807 00:43:41,043 --> 00:43:42,939 You said you'd had no contact with him. 808 00:43:42,963 --> 00:43:44,419 I haven't. 809 00:43:44,443 --> 00:43:45,819 Adam's a... 810 00:43:45,843 --> 00:43:47,859 I don't know. He's an activist, I guess. 811 00:43:47,883 --> 00:43:50,179 Someone needs to say something to the Lindells. 812 00:43:50,203 --> 00:43:51,739 He shouldn't be coming to your work! 813 00:43:51,763 --> 00:43:52,740 Don't. 814 00:43:52,764 --> 00:43:54,859 Does Helen know about... what he... 815 00:43:54,883 --> 00:43:55,860 No. 816 00:43:55,884 --> 00:43:59,019 Well, if she has any concerns, get her to ring me. 817 00:43:59,043 --> 00:44:01,339 I can tell her what kind of person Adam is, 818 00:44:01,363 --> 00:44:03,443 what kind of a... attacks... Mum. 819 00:44:05,643 --> 00:44:07,123 He's been through enough. 820 00:44:11,403 --> 00:44:12,883 I'll call you tomorrow. 821 00:44:40,923 --> 00:44:43,883 Very boring. 822 00:44:44,923 --> 00:44:47,539 Noels, how are you? What the hell, Noely? 823 00:44:47,563 --> 00:44:49,363 Yeah, I can explain. 824 00:44:50,523 --> 00:44:51,979 Did you get the sack and you didn't tell us? 825 00:44:52,003 --> 00:44:53,899 I had the best intentions, I promise. 826 00:44:53,923 --> 00:44:56,203 I just might have stuck my foot in it. 827 00:44:59,163 --> 00:45:02,363 I learnt a bit of French at school, but no Korean, I'm afraid. 828 00:45:04,723 --> 00:45:07,802 Oops. Excuse me. Sorry, everyone. 829 00:45:10,363 --> 00:45:13,579 Mr Kim, Mrs Kim, Jean, 830 00:45:13,603 --> 00:45:15,219 thank you for that tea. 831 00:45:15,243 --> 00:45:16,723 It was delicious. 832 00:45:19,803 --> 00:45:21,283 Merci. 833 00:45:22,763 --> 00:45:26,459 Um... actually, I'll just leave these thongs for you at the door. 834 00:45:26,483 --> 00:45:27,483 Thanks! 835 00:45:28,483 --> 00:45:29,523 Noels, Noels. 836 00:45:30,883 --> 00:45:32,739 I'm gathering you didn't tell your family. 837 00:45:32,763 --> 00:45:34,522 I'm gathering you did! 838 00:45:35,923 --> 00:45:38,323 Well... anyway... 839 00:45:39,403 --> 00:45:42,099 I'm hearing you can come back in on Monday. 840 00:45:42,123 --> 00:45:43,579 What? 841 00:45:43,603 --> 00:45:45,059 Yeah, well, you know bloody Lindsay. 842 00:45:45,083 --> 00:45:47,819 He... he blows a gasket and then a day later 843 00:45:47,843 --> 00:45:49,643 he's forgotten all about it. 844 00:45:50,643 --> 00:45:52,059 Did you say something? 845 00:45:52,083 --> 00:45:54,059 Well, I... I didn't say anything 846 00:45:54,083 --> 00:45:56,883 a halfway decent person wouldn't have said. 847 00:45:59,003 --> 00:46:01,203 I mean, you're the best one there, Noels. 848 00:46:03,003 --> 00:46:03,980 Thank you. 849 00:46:04,004 --> 00:46:05,563 Oh, it's alright. 850 00:46:10,443 --> 00:46:11,923 You'd better head back in. 851 00:46:14,043 --> 00:46:15,803 Do you want to grab a drink? 852 00:46:17,363 --> 00:46:18,363 Yeah? 853 00:46:19,363 --> 00:46:21,403 Yeah, I mean, are you sure? 854 00:46:22,563 --> 00:46:24,563 Yeah. Yeah? 855 00:46:28,563 --> 00:46:30,922 Nah, I feel like a dork. 856 00:46:37,323 --> 00:46:39,979 You saw it? Of course! 857 00:46:40,003 --> 00:46:43,939 Geoff, just slow down. 858 00:46:43,963 --> 00:46:46,539 You're breathless. I'm fine, darling. 859 00:46:46,563 --> 00:46:49,642 First day back was always going to push me. 860 00:46:51,643 --> 00:46:52,739 What did you think? 861 00:46:52,763 --> 00:46:55,979 Why don't you have a lie down and I'll bring your dinner... 862 00:46:56,003 --> 00:46:57,763 What did you think? 863 00:46:59,003 --> 00:47:00,579 You were incredible. 864 00:47:00,603 --> 00:47:02,803 Absolutely incredible. 865 00:47:05,003 --> 00:47:06,659 Ah, yes. 866 00:47:06,683 --> 00:47:08,482 You should have seen Lindsay's face. 867 00:47:09,843 --> 00:47:11,699 OK, you bastard. 868 00:47:11,723 --> 00:47:15,219 You think a sports boy could give you that, huh? 869 00:47:15,243 --> 00:47:17,523 Yeah, unlikely. Ha-ha! 870 00:47:31,123 --> 00:47:32,859 You watched? Yeah. 871 00:47:32,883 --> 00:47:34,699 Fuck! It was a fucking disaster. 872 00:47:34,723 --> 00:47:36,619 You know, Geoff wasn't even supposed to be there. 873 00:47:36,643 --> 00:47:39,259 He came in specifically, and I don't even know how he heard. 874 00:47:39,283 --> 00:47:41,419 Could I pour myself a drink? 875 00:47:41,443 --> 00:47:42,979 Oh, I feel sick. 876 00:47:43,003 --> 00:47:45,139 Did you book them? Adam and, um... 877 00:47:45,163 --> 00:47:47,363 And Russell? Yeah. 878 00:47:48,883 --> 00:47:51,099 Yeah, I went out looking for someone who had AIDS, 879 00:47:51,123 --> 00:47:55,179 and then Adam came forward and told me about his partner. 880 00:47:55,203 --> 00:47:57,059 You said that he was a research contact. 881 00:47:57,083 --> 00:47:58,779 Yeah. 882 00:47:58,803 --> 00:48:00,859 He said that you guys went to high school together. 883 00:48:00,883 --> 00:48:02,483 So which is it? Or is it both? 884 00:48:04,443 --> 00:48:05,923 He said that? Yeah. 885 00:48:07,483 --> 00:48:09,179 He asked me to pass on a message. 886 00:48:09,203 --> 00:48:11,283 He said, "Tell him I'm sorry." 887 00:48:21,483 --> 00:48:25,339 Helen, it's a complicated situation between our families. 888 00:48:25,363 --> 00:48:27,299 I don't think... 889 00:48:27,323 --> 00:48:28,963 There's no need to involve you in this. 890 00:48:30,283 --> 00:48:31,803 Involve me in what? 891 00:48:35,443 --> 00:48:36,923 I don't want to talk about it. 892 00:48:39,203 --> 00:48:40,683 You have to tell me. 893 00:48:47,123 --> 00:48:48,819 I mean, nothing that you can say 894 00:48:48,843 --> 00:48:51,363 is worse than what I'm thinking in my head right now. 895 00:48:53,723 --> 00:48:56,083 He made allegations against me. 896 00:48:58,643 --> 00:49:00,099 What kind of allegations? 897 00:49:00,123 --> 00:49:01,603 When we were teenagers. 898 00:49:04,003 --> 00:49:06,563 He said I did things that I did not do. 899 00:49:10,403 --> 00:49:13,443 He said I forced myself on him. 900 00:49:17,643 --> 00:49:19,499 It wasn't me. 901 00:49:19,523 --> 00:49:21,419 It was not me. 902 00:49:21,443 --> 00:49:22,899 Are you talking sexually? 903 00:49:22,923 --> 00:49:25,379 We were best friends, we were teenage boys messing around. 904 00:49:25,403 --> 00:49:27,163 It was adolescent boy stuff. It wasn't... 905 00:49:30,723 --> 00:49:33,643 Has anything like this happened since you were a teenager? 906 00:49:38,843 --> 00:49:40,379 You know I love you. 907 00:49:40,403 --> 00:49:43,043 I'm... I'm in love with you. While we were together? 908 00:49:45,603 --> 00:49:47,363 I'm in love with you, Helen. With who? 909 00:49:48,483 --> 00:49:49,899 With who? 910 00:49:49,923 --> 00:49:51,139 With who, Dale? Tim. 911 00:49:51,163 --> 00:49:53,059 For a brief moment, only once, and I stopped it. 912 00:49:53,083 --> 00:49:54,779 As soon as it ended, I told him, Helen. 913 00:49:54,803 --> 00:49:56,323 I told him that I was committed to you!