1 00:00:00,500 --> 00:00:02,540 Good evening and welcome to our special early edition 2 00:00:03,140 --> 00:00:04,420 of Public Eye. 3 00:00:04,431 --> 00:00:06,351 Tonight, China in crisis. 4 00:00:06,560 --> 00:00:08,760 Why aren't we breaking programming? We don't have enough footage. 5 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,160 In fact, we have no footage. 6 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,880 You lost them, and it was your mistake! 7 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,280 Where is your fucking loyalty? 8 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,280 Everybody, this is Noelene, 9 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,800 and for those of you who don't know, Noelene brought us Li Zheng. 10 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:23,320 You can lock in next week. 11 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:24,880 But that's it. 12 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,400 I wouldn't relax just yet. 13 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,200 A diagnosis is something worth considering. 14 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:33,160 She said it's a personality disorder. 15 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:34,640 And it's true. 16 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:38,160 There may be aspects of Dale you're not aware of. 17 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,800 He has certain proclivities. 18 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,440 Would you like to see the audience responses? 19 00:00:43,480 --> 00:00:44,800 Sure. 20 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,480 If Lindsay stays... 21 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:48,840 I walk. 22 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,000 Good evening. I am Dale Jennings. 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,440 New paragraph. 24 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:19,360 Tonight, my interview with the Prime Minister, Mr. Bob Hawke. 25 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,360 A regular Aussie battler, just like me. 26 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,920 Warm smile. 27 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:27,160 We'll be discussing all our favourite topics, 28 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,840 like the Australian cricket team. 29 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:34,666 When will he face the truth about those defenceless children? 30 00:01:34,677 --> 00:01:35,719 This is me! 31 00:01:35,730 --> 00:01:40,290 The Prime Minister has flown to the opposite side of the world 32 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,120 to avoid being interviewed by me. 33 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,520 Men's cologne, trousers, being a bloke. 34 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:53,640 - Do you know why... - This just keeps going on and on. 35 00:02:08,613 --> 00:02:11,973 - Oh! - You're watching Public Eye. 36 00:02:11,984 --> 00:02:13,384 I'm Helen Norville. 37 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:18,920 It's just so stupid. 38 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,320 So stupid. 39 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:26,520 It's just stupid. 40 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,480 It is. 41 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,840 And it's a compliment. It's like a... It's a... 42 00:02:33,565 --> 00:02:34,673 It's a compliment. 43 00:02:34,684 --> 00:02:36,204 - No, it is. - Come on, watch it again. 44 00:02:36,215 --> 00:02:37,735 You wanna just watch it one more time? 45 00:02:37,746 --> 00:02:38,786 Um... 46 00:02:42,656 --> 00:02:47,656 Good evening. I am Dale Jennings. New paragraph. 47 00:02:47,667 --> 00:02:51,427 Tonight, my interview with the Prime Minister, Mr Bob Hawke. 48 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,800 A regular Aussie battler, just like me. 49 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:56,760 I think he's overcompensating. 50 00:02:56,771 --> 00:03:00,451 Um, like when he first started, he's very raw and natural, 51 00:03:00,462 --> 00:03:03,102 and you could feel the nerves coming through, 52 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,160 but now he's just almost artificial. 53 00:03:05,171 --> 00:03:07,131 Like... like a... like a Ken doll. 54 00:03:07,142 --> 00:03:08,502 A talking Ken doll. 55 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,080 And what about you, ma'am? Your thoughts on Dale? 56 00:03:11,091 --> 00:03:12,706 I hadn't really noticed it before, 57 00:03:12,717 --> 00:03:15,717 but yeah, he is a bit fake, a bit robotic. 58 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,520 Yeah, he's good looking. 59 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,800 A bit stiff, isn't he? That hair. Maybe a bit rigid in his posture. 60 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,120 Yeah, but yeah, he's a good looking guy. 61 00:03:24,131 --> 00:03:27,333 Uh, he's got that kind of flat face, you know what I mean? 62 00:03:27,344 --> 00:03:29,424 Like, you look at him, he's just all... 63 00:03:29,521 --> 00:03:31,641 He's white as snow. 64 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,893 You take a look at him and you just think, "Jeez, 65 00:03:33,904 --> 00:03:35,573 I don't wanna watch this for the next 10 minutes. 66 00:03:35,584 --> 00:03:36,984 This guy looks sick." 67 00:03:37,074 --> 00:03:39,299 Look, I think he tells the news, 68 00:03:39,310 --> 00:03:41,430 but he looks like a puppet, really. 69 00:03:41,441 --> 00:03:43,521 I mean, he's just stiff and wooden. 70 00:03:46,166 --> 00:03:50,666 - Synced and corrected by naFraC - - www.addic7ed.com - 71 00:03:51,185 --> 00:03:53,745 Five, four... 72 00:03:53,756 --> 00:03:57,196 until the end of this year to deliver his findings. 73 00:03:57,413 --> 00:04:00,453 International efforts to fight the apartheid regime 74 00:04:00,464 --> 00:04:01,746 have been complicated, 75 00:04:01,757 --> 00:04:04,157 with the breaking news that six rugby players 76 00:04:04,168 --> 00:04:08,008 may defy the sports boycott to embark on a South African tour. 77 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,720 Ellen Davison has more. 78 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,040 Australia has led the global fight to end apartheid, 79 00:04:13,051 --> 00:04:15,811 placing tough sanctions on South Africa. 80 00:04:15,822 --> 00:04:17,593 But now those sanctions have been defied 81 00:04:17,604 --> 00:04:19,684 by six Australian rugby players 82 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,080 who are planning a very controversial tour. 83 00:04:23,091 --> 00:04:26,771 Now, I would say to them that if they want to go to South Africa, 84 00:04:26,782 --> 00:04:29,062 find out what it's like, they should go. 85 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,480 Critics are saying the players are undermining Australia's efforts. 86 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,680 - We'll chat about this. - Five... 87 00:04:34,691 --> 00:04:38,371 The audience likes it when we chat, so... 88 00:04:38,382 --> 00:04:41,502 Well, Rob Rickards, former footy champion yourself. 89 00:04:41,513 --> 00:04:43,606 What do you make of these players touring South Africa? 90 00:04:43,617 --> 00:04:44,937 Are they supporting apartheid 91 00:04:44,948 --> 00:04:46,948 or should politics be kept out of sport? 92 00:04:47,111 --> 00:04:49,511 Uh, to tell you the truth, Dale, I reckon... 93 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,000 I reckon it's a bit rough 94 00:04:51,011 --> 00:04:53,580 to accuse these blokes of supporting apartheid. 95 00:04:53,591 --> 00:04:55,471 I think they're just trying to earn a living. 96 00:04:55,613 --> 00:04:57,493 So you would have accepted the invitation? 97 00:04:57,612 --> 00:04:59,142 Well, there was never a lot of interest 98 00:04:59,152 --> 00:05:01,286 in my code of footy in South Africa, 99 00:05:01,297 --> 00:05:03,977 but I think I think the beautiful thing about the Aussie sports field 100 00:05:04,386 --> 00:05:05,626 is we play as one team. 101 00:05:05,637 --> 00:05:07,557 We're all equal, all brothers, 102 00:05:07,568 --> 00:05:10,408 and in fact some of our greatest champions have been Black. 103 00:05:13,384 --> 00:05:17,704 So, we do not see colour in our sport. 104 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,640 Indeed. Well, isn't that the true Aussie spirit? 105 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,320 And back onto Aussie sports, 106 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:29,633 Jason Dunstall is on track for another record-breaking season. 107 00:05:29,644 --> 00:05:30,684 He sure is. 108 00:05:30,695 --> 00:05:33,735 Dale Dunstall has already booted his 100th goal for the season, 109 00:05:33,746 --> 00:05:37,466 sealing the Hawks' victory against the Blues at VFL Park. 110 00:05:37,570 --> 00:05:40,130 Just four years ago, Dunstall was written off 111 00:05:40,141 --> 00:05:43,021 after a nightmare 1985 grand final. 112 00:05:43,309 --> 00:05:44,973 So, how did you go with the cards? 113 00:05:44,984 --> 00:05:47,984 I found it, um... I found it really difficult with work. 114 00:05:48,993 --> 00:05:51,753 I know filling out the cards can feel exhausting, 115 00:05:51,764 --> 00:05:54,364 but it's really important that you do fill them out, 116 00:05:54,375 --> 00:05:58,260 because it helps us identify patterns within the chaos. 117 00:05:58,271 --> 00:06:00,631 Mm. I just... I don't have the time. 118 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,611 - Even five minutes before or after work. - No, I don't. I don't. 119 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,640 I mean, I'm not quite sure you understand the pace 120 00:06:05,651 --> 00:06:06,700 in which I work. 121 00:06:06,711 --> 00:06:10,031 I mean, last week I had two interviews with foreign ministers, 122 00:06:10,309 --> 00:06:12,380 live, and I mean the amount of information 123 00:06:12,391 --> 00:06:13,631 that I have to be across. 124 00:06:13,642 --> 00:06:16,562 I mean, I can't, and I cannot go out in front of millions of people 125 00:06:16,573 --> 00:06:17,733 and say, "I'm so, so sorry. 126 00:06:17,744 --> 00:06:19,424 There's just a few holes in my understanding 127 00:06:19,435 --> 00:06:20,586 in Australian foreign policy, 128 00:06:20,597 --> 00:06:25,117 but I did manage to fill out the endless stream of banal, 129 00:06:25,507 --> 00:06:28,987 monotonous, infantile checklists that were prescribed to me." 130 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,200 Alright. 131 00:06:32,260 --> 00:06:34,660 Well, we've got reactive anger right now. 132 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,720 - So which skill would you use? - Jesus Christ. 133 00:06:37,731 --> 00:06:39,971 We just talked through opposite action. 134 00:06:39,982 --> 00:06:42,222 Let's... let's try that one. 135 00:06:49,686 --> 00:06:52,166 Thank you so much, Marcia, for your patience 136 00:06:52,177 --> 00:06:54,493 while I work through my own personal issues 137 00:06:54,504 --> 00:06:56,384 with this particular style of therapy. 138 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,040 Helen, if there were a pill that treated borderline, 139 00:07:04,051 --> 00:07:07,251 you would have it, but there isn't. 140 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:11,440 This therapy requires your full engagement. 141 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:13,960 You know what the alternative is. 142 00:07:14,695 --> 00:07:19,655 It's these cycles of reactive anger that erode your relationships, 143 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,120 that you manage with booze and Valium. 144 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:23,560 So if you want that... 145 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,920 no-one's forcing you to be here. 146 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,360 You're welcome to go. 147 00:07:42,504 --> 00:07:46,304 I'd give opposite action a three, as far as effectiveness. 148 00:07:47,744 --> 00:07:48,824 Great. 149 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:50,920 Mark it in the column. 150 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,600 What about the breathing? 151 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:04,000 I do use that all the time, and it's incredibly effective, actually. 152 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,760 - I would give that a four, for sure. - Great. 153 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,346 Clive Wittmann is contracted up for the end of '89, 154 00:08:11,357 --> 00:08:13,877 and Vic Griffiths isn't willing to move, 155 00:08:13,888 --> 00:08:16,728 and beyond them, the pool is looking a little shallow, 156 00:08:16,739 --> 00:08:17,786 I'm sorry to say. 157 00:08:17,797 --> 00:08:18,957 Honestly, Richard, 158 00:08:18,968 --> 00:08:21,288 if you remove Lindsay tomorrow without a replacement, 159 00:08:21,299 --> 00:08:23,339 I don't even think you would notice the difference. 160 00:08:23,539 --> 00:08:24,939 The show runs itself, doesn't it? 161 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:27,800 Oh, look. 162 00:08:27,949 --> 00:08:31,109 You don't get a lot out of him after lunch, that's for sure. 163 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,720 - Or before. - Gents, I do know who the man is. 164 00:08:33,731 --> 00:08:35,131 He's a drunk. 165 00:08:35,142 --> 00:08:36,382 He's an old bastard. 166 00:08:36,393 --> 00:08:38,633 But the show is at number one, so... 167 00:08:38,644 --> 00:08:40,266 So what about if I make a few calls, 168 00:08:40,277 --> 00:08:42,357 just in case there's some names we might have missed? 169 00:08:42,546 --> 00:08:43,586 People coming up. 170 00:08:43,597 --> 00:08:46,917 Or we reconvene towards the end of the year. 171 00:08:47,429 --> 00:08:49,309 A few contracts might be finishing then. 172 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,080 No. We are not willing to see in 1990 with Lindsay Cunningham. 173 00:08:55,818 --> 00:08:57,138 You too? 174 00:08:57,149 --> 00:08:59,989 My wife now works for the competition because of, um... 175 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,800 Because of Lindsay's corrosive behaviours, 176 00:09:01,811 --> 00:09:03,611 our best producer working against us. 177 00:09:03,622 --> 00:09:05,782 Yeah. So, yeah. Yep. 178 00:09:05,909 --> 00:09:07,469 It's time. 179 00:09:08,725 --> 00:09:10,040 Alright, alright, alright. 180 00:09:10,051 --> 00:09:13,011 Make a few calls, but discreetly, please. 181 00:09:13,022 --> 00:09:16,046 Lindsay and I have regular golf Wednesdays, so timing is critical. 182 00:09:16,057 --> 00:09:17,537 Of course. I understand. 183 00:09:17,806 --> 00:09:20,206 Did you see that comedy show the other night? 184 00:09:22,218 --> 00:09:23,978 He was pretty good. 185 00:09:23,989 --> 00:09:25,549 - That guy. - Oh, yeah. 186 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:27,680 Anne and I usually prefer British comedians, 187 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,840 but that guy, he got you down pat. 188 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,200 Is that right? 189 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,880 - She's happy as Larry with Nan. - Mmm. 190 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,360 Mmm. Mm-hm. 191 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,200 - I've gotta go. - Yeah. Alright. Good luck. 192 00:09:57,211 --> 00:09:58,266 - Bye. - Bye-bye. 193 00:09:58,277 --> 00:10:00,277 Aw, bubba! You sad? 194 00:10:00,680 --> 00:10:02,040 Aw, I'm sorry. 195 00:10:02,051 --> 00:10:04,011 - OK. - Wave to Mummy. 196 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:07,760 - Yeah. OK. - OK. 197 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,960 Bye. Bye. Bye, bye, bye. 198 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,680 - See ya! Have fun. - Mummy's going. 199 00:10:14,093 --> 00:10:15,295 Oh! 200 00:10:15,305 --> 00:10:16,709 - Yeah, just about to get into this. - Please eat. 201 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,800 Yes, I will. 202 00:10:18,811 --> 00:10:21,051 I'll help you. Look. 203 00:10:21,062 --> 00:10:22,502 Oh! 204 00:10:22,513 --> 00:10:24,673 - Mm. - Yeah. 205 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,440 The chairman of the South African Action Group was on morning radio. 206 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,160 Did a full half hour on the issue. 207 00:10:30,171 --> 00:10:31,611 Sorry. 208 00:10:31,622 --> 00:10:34,982 He said if a sports team plays in an apartheid state, 209 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,040 it's impossible for them to not see colour. 210 00:10:38,051 --> 00:10:39,371 Hmm. 211 00:10:40,392 --> 00:10:42,392 We're covering the rugby controversy. 212 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:46,440 Do you want to work on something else? 213 00:10:46,451 --> 00:10:48,091 No. Why? 214 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,000 Rob's emerged as one of the highest profile people 215 00:10:51,011 --> 00:10:52,571 in support of the rugby players. 216 00:10:52,582 --> 00:10:55,982 Rob Rickards, couple of politicians and Alan Jones. 217 00:10:56,352 --> 00:10:59,232 It's been dominating talkback radio all morning. 218 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,160 Rob, really... 219 00:11:02,379 --> 00:11:05,800 He really just made that one comment off the cuff. 220 00:11:05,811 --> 00:11:07,571 Did you hear the Prime Minister's comment? 221 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,435 - About Rob? - Not directly, no, but he's begged 222 00:11:10,445 --> 00:11:12,480 the players to reconsider. 223 00:11:12,491 --> 00:11:14,011 Can you read his quote? 224 00:11:14,109 --> 00:11:15,629 Hawke said if the players go, 225 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,160 they'll be giving comfort to an abhorrent regime. 226 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,213 We are gonna stick on the issue, 227 00:11:21,224 --> 00:11:23,664 but I don't see Public Eye mentioning Rob by name, 228 00:11:24,545 --> 00:11:26,025 if that helps. 229 00:11:29,927 --> 00:11:31,167 Alright. 230 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,040 Honestly, the calls we're getting, people are acting like I said 231 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,960 we should bring in apartheid here or something. 232 00:11:47,939 --> 00:11:49,979 It did sound like you were against sanctions. 233 00:11:49,990 --> 00:11:53,353 What? I was just trying to say how beautiful it is 234 00:11:53,364 --> 00:11:55,149 to live in a country without apartheid. 235 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:56,440 I know that's what you meant, 236 00:11:56,509 --> 00:11:58,429 but I think it might be good to clarify tonight 237 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,400 that you do oppose apartheid and that you strongly support sanctions. 238 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,880 Alright. OK. Um... 239 00:12:04,891 --> 00:12:06,326 Alright. Go on. 240 00:12:06,337 --> 00:12:07,697 Yeah, hang on. Yep. 241 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,800 Whilst I understand the position of the players, 242 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,920 I personally support all boycotts of apartheid, 243 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,400 and I apologise if my comments implied otherwise. 244 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,480 Otherwise. That's it. OK. 245 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,520 - Thank you. - I've gotta go. 246 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,840 I do you think if we are going to do this segment, 247 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:35,440 we should probably understand... 248 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,760 Well, I agree, Bill. 249 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,680 Man in reception is asking for you. 250 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:41,000 Says he has a story. 251 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,240 Did he... Did he give you his name? 252 00:12:43,251 --> 00:12:44,291 No. 253 00:13:00,646 --> 00:13:02,032 Linus. 254 00:13:02,279 --> 00:13:05,079 There she is. Miss Helen Norville. 255 00:13:05,239 --> 00:13:07,639 Always more beautiful in person. It's good to see you. 256 00:13:07,766 --> 00:13:09,166 Good to be seen. 257 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,640 Hey, I should do this for the radio station. 258 00:13:11,680 --> 00:13:13,306 First thing people see when they walk in, 259 00:13:13,317 --> 00:13:14,906 all this Black loveliness. 260 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,800 - Hey, Leoni said you got a story? - Maybe. 261 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,520 I've been watching all the South African coverage 262 00:13:20,560 --> 00:13:22,040 you guys have been showing, 263 00:13:22,051 --> 00:13:24,451 and all the railing about how bad it is overseas, 264 00:13:24,462 --> 00:13:26,926 all the racism and apartheid they've got over there, 265 00:13:26,937 --> 00:13:29,817 and I just think you guys are missing the real story. 266 00:13:30,013 --> 00:13:31,213 What's that? 267 00:13:31,367 --> 00:13:34,567 Well, Miss Norville, the question is who? 268 00:13:36,219 --> 00:13:38,579 Uh, this is Linus Preston. 269 00:13:38,680 --> 00:13:39,760 - Hello, mate. - Hey, mate. 270 00:13:39,771 --> 00:13:42,291 Bill MacFarlane. He's executive producer on the show. 271 00:13:42,302 --> 00:13:43,942 - Nice to meet you. - Let's take a seat. 272 00:13:43,953 --> 00:13:45,000 Sure. 273 00:13:45,011 --> 00:13:48,011 Linus has been watching all of our South African coverage. 274 00:13:48,269 --> 00:13:50,262 - Right. - Yeah, just a little bit, 275 00:13:50,272 --> 00:13:52,560 'cause there's quite a lot, isn't there? 276 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,920 A lot of outrage from the colonisers. 277 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,440 Leoni said that, um... that you had a story. 278 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:58,920 Yeah. 279 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,560 I think Australia is no better than South Africa. 280 00:14:01,629 --> 00:14:04,586 Actually, I think Australia is South Africa. 281 00:14:04,597 --> 00:14:06,957 - That's offensive. - Offensive? 282 00:14:07,026 --> 00:14:09,066 Do you know what I think is offensive, Bill? 283 00:14:09,077 --> 00:14:11,157 Breeding out an entire race of people. 284 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,015 - You know... - OK, Linus, it's an opinion, 285 00:14:13,025 --> 00:14:14,160 so what's the story? 286 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,560 I'm getting to it. Helen. Chill. 287 00:14:16,571 --> 00:14:17,811 She's impatient, isn't she? 288 00:14:19,269 --> 00:14:22,909 Look, last night on your old show, that sports fella was saying 289 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,800 that there's no racism in Aussie sports. 290 00:14:24,811 --> 00:14:25,946 Yeah. Rob Rickards. 291 00:14:25,957 --> 00:14:28,677 Yeah, well, I know a bloke that used to play with our Mr Rickards. 292 00:14:28,733 --> 00:14:30,093 Much better player, too. 293 00:14:31,299 --> 00:14:32,979 The stories he tells... 294 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,520 He's still traumatised by the racism he faced. 295 00:14:38,820 --> 00:14:43,220 And I think he's finally at a place now where he can speak about it. 296 00:14:50,999 --> 00:14:53,879 I'm just gonna be completely honest with you, Linus, 297 00:14:54,029 --> 00:14:58,349 I, um... I have quite a few personal and professional connections 298 00:14:58,360 --> 00:14:59,920 with Rob Rickards. 299 00:14:59,931 --> 00:15:01,931 And that's gonna stop you, is it? 300 00:15:01,966 --> 00:15:04,726 No, but it's definitely gonna make it complicated. 301 00:15:05,955 --> 00:15:07,235 I'm sorry. 302 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,480 Of course it does. Of course. 303 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,160 Because that's how the apartheid works, right? 304 00:15:12,171 --> 00:15:14,011 OK, Mr Preston, thank you for your time, mate. 305 00:15:14,022 --> 00:15:15,480 - Thank you for my time? - OK, Bill... 306 00:15:15,491 --> 00:15:18,198 - I think that's enough, OK? - Bill, just wait. Wait. Just wait. 307 00:15:25,533 --> 00:15:28,853 It's a... It's a really challenging thought, 308 00:15:28,864 --> 00:15:30,719 and I appreciate you bringing it to us, 309 00:15:30,730 --> 00:15:31,970 so, um... 310 00:15:33,399 --> 00:15:35,119 if you give me the... 311 00:15:35,130 --> 00:15:37,210 What is the football player's name? 312 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:38,760 Deano Prince. 313 00:15:41,729 --> 00:15:43,346 If you give me his number, I'll call him 314 00:15:43,357 --> 00:15:44,686 and see what he has to say. 315 00:15:44,697 --> 00:15:47,057 He won't speak about this over the phone. 316 00:15:47,340 --> 00:15:49,540 You're gonna have to meet up with him face to face. 317 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:55,760 OK. When? 318 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,320 I could set it up for today. 319 00:15:59,605 --> 00:16:00,805 Alright. 320 00:16:02,006 --> 00:16:03,246 Catch ya, Bill. 321 00:16:15,266 --> 00:16:16,746 Hey. Script update. 322 00:16:16,757 --> 00:16:19,797 We just heard two of the rugby players are about to withdraw. 323 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,655 - Oh. - Hey, Cheryl, can you give 324 00:16:21,665 --> 00:16:23,851 Dale and I five minutes, please? 325 00:16:23,862 --> 00:16:25,022 Oh. 326 00:16:30,900 --> 00:16:34,180 Hey, uh, Rob told me. 327 00:16:34,529 --> 00:16:36,349 - What? - About the CEO. 328 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:37,900 You know, how he doesn't want to dump Lindsay 329 00:16:37,911 --> 00:16:39,120 until he's found a good replacement? 330 00:16:39,131 --> 00:16:41,331 We need to be careful how we speak about this, Dennis. 331 00:16:41,813 --> 00:16:44,493 Robert tells me everything, OK? I'm a vault. 332 00:16:44,504 --> 00:16:50,064 I know that Rob would be keen to see me in the job. 333 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:52,640 Can I count on you? 334 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,320 Oh, Dennis. 335 00:16:55,331 --> 00:16:58,166 The CEO is looking for someone who's acted in the role. 336 00:16:58,177 --> 00:17:02,257 Dale, I have acted in the role every day for years. 337 00:17:03,005 --> 00:17:04,405 You know that. 338 00:17:07,029 --> 00:17:10,229 Do you have a clear idea about where you would take the bulletin? 339 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,880 Man, I got so many fucking ideas. Listen. 340 00:17:12,891 --> 00:17:16,291 Segments, formats, the design of the desk. 341 00:17:16,302 --> 00:17:18,062 I will have you on overseas interview tours. 342 00:17:18,073 --> 00:17:21,193 I will have you talking to presidents. 343 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,640 OK, well, write down some ideas and we'll have a chat. 344 00:17:26,686 --> 00:17:27,926 See you. 345 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:30,840 Cheryl? 346 00:17:32,106 --> 00:17:34,546 - Yep? - It needs to be... 347 00:17:34,873 --> 00:17:35,876 - More volume? - Yeah. 348 00:17:35,887 --> 00:17:38,047 Yeah? Alright. I can do that. 349 00:17:43,579 --> 00:17:46,739 Miss Norville, I think you've already met Uncle Owey. 350 00:17:47,353 --> 00:17:48,953 Over here, we got Red Fella. 351 00:17:48,964 --> 00:17:50,764 - And here is... - What is Cinderella doing here? 352 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:53,400 Yeah, never mind now, Aunty. 353 00:17:53,411 --> 00:17:56,051 I just bumped into Helen and thought, "Let's go have a feed 354 00:17:56,120 --> 00:17:57,400 at my beautiful aunty's house." 355 00:17:57,411 --> 00:17:59,386 Thousands might believe you, my nephew, 356 00:17:59,397 --> 00:18:00,822 but I ain't one of them. 357 00:18:00,833 --> 00:18:02,566 Look, why don't you go get her some Johnny cakes? 358 00:18:02,577 --> 00:18:04,709 - She'll love them. - Yeah, sure she will. 359 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,680 It's not the only thing she'd probably love. 360 00:18:06,691 --> 00:18:08,011 Yeah. 361 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,940 - I just... - Here... 362 00:18:12,147 --> 00:18:13,927 is Deano Prince. 363 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,560 - Hi, Deano. Helen Norville. - Yeah, he knows who you are. 364 00:18:17,571 --> 00:18:19,571 Linus makes us watch every bloody night. 365 00:18:19,582 --> 00:18:21,302 Here, look, Helen, why don't you take a seat? 366 00:18:21,313 --> 00:18:22,833 - I'll get you a drink. - OK. 367 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,360 Linus tells me that you used to play with the VFL. 368 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:36,815 Yeah. 369 00:18:36,825 --> 00:18:38,040 With Rob Rickards. 370 00:18:41,933 --> 00:18:43,933 Yeah, we came up at the same time. 371 00:18:45,949 --> 00:18:48,509 I'm not sure if you're aware of what... 372 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:49,840 I'm aware. 373 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:53,879 There was no racism? 374 00:18:55,132 --> 00:18:56,332 Yeah. 375 00:18:59,899 --> 00:19:01,619 Do you remember it differently? 376 00:19:07,799 --> 00:19:08,879 Yeah, it was... 377 00:19:10,586 --> 00:19:12,186 so bad I had to leave. 378 00:19:13,258 --> 00:19:15,298 You left the sport because of racism. 379 00:19:15,309 --> 00:19:18,189 Shouldn't be talking about this. Especially to her. 380 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,160 - It's OK, sis. Relax. - No, it's not OK. 381 00:19:21,171 --> 00:19:23,599 This one here gets this duvet coming in here, 382 00:19:23,610 --> 00:19:25,490 and all she's after is a little story. 383 00:19:25,501 --> 00:19:28,581 - They're just chatting. - They're not just chatting. 384 00:19:28,593 --> 00:19:30,273 It's OK, Linus. I'm sorry. 385 00:19:30,552 --> 00:19:32,512 Listen, Deano, if you do want to speak to me, 386 00:19:32,523 --> 00:19:33,883 Linus has got my number. 387 00:19:33,894 --> 00:19:35,494 - Helen... - I'm sorry. 388 00:19:41,313 --> 00:19:44,073 is an affront to all humanity. 389 00:19:44,090 --> 00:19:46,333 Commonwealth Secretary-General Sonny Ramphal 390 00:19:46,344 --> 00:19:47,664 says he hopes that any tourists 391 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,119 don't affect next year's Commonwealth Games in Auckland. 392 00:19:52,147 --> 00:19:53,707 World of sport now and Rod, 393 00:19:53,718 --> 00:19:56,238 no less than five Australians are lining up 394 00:19:56,249 --> 00:19:58,249 for the US PGA Championship. 395 00:19:58,260 --> 00:19:59,566 That's right, Dale, 396 00:19:59,577 --> 00:20:03,377 but just before we get to sport, uh, to the golf green, at least, 397 00:20:03,388 --> 00:20:07,748 if I could just touch on just a couple of my comments last night 398 00:20:08,006 --> 00:20:11,686 regarding those rugby players heading to South Africa. 399 00:20:11,697 --> 00:20:12,960 I just want to make it clear 400 00:20:12,971 --> 00:20:16,251 that although I do understand where the players are coming from, 401 00:20:16,746 --> 00:20:20,226 for me, personally, I support the sports boycott. 402 00:20:20,237 --> 00:20:23,313 In fact, I support all apartheid boycotts 403 00:20:23,324 --> 00:20:27,844 because apartheid is something that I do not support, 404 00:20:28,066 --> 00:20:29,946 at all, under any circumstances. 405 00:20:29,957 --> 00:20:31,397 It's not who I am. 406 00:20:31,459 --> 00:20:32,579 So... 407 00:20:34,033 --> 00:20:35,933 Yeah. 408 00:20:36,469 --> 00:20:40,149 The US PGA has been won only twice by Australians, 409 00:20:40,309 --> 00:20:43,109 but a bumper crop of players are hoping to change that, 410 00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:45,760 with Greg Norman one of the tournament favourites. 411 00:20:45,771 --> 00:20:47,931 Look, I promise I will be the first person you see 412 00:20:47,942 --> 00:20:49,102 when you get off stage. 413 00:20:49,229 --> 00:20:50,589 OK? Great. 414 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:51,960 OK, look, I gotta go. 415 00:20:52,029 --> 00:20:53,109 I love you. 416 00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:54,200 OK. 417 00:20:54,269 --> 00:20:55,949 Good luck! 418 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,400 OK, bye. 419 00:20:58,578 --> 00:21:00,058 You're gonna lose that woman 420 00:21:00,069 --> 00:21:02,109 unless you start leaving at a reasonable hour. 421 00:21:02,120 --> 00:21:03,560 Yep, OK. Good night, Jean. 422 00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:09,700 Good night! 423 00:21:20,589 --> 00:21:22,909 I mean, Dale, if I knew a brilliant mind in news, 424 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,200 I wouldn't tell you about it. 425 00:21:24,211 --> 00:21:25,851 I'd hire them myself. 426 00:21:25,949 --> 00:21:27,989 Actually, I did... Bill and Noelene. 427 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,486 How often is Noelene working? 428 00:21:29,497 --> 00:21:31,577 Uh... two days. 429 00:21:31,588 --> 00:21:32,962 What about Dennis? 430 00:21:32,972 --> 00:21:34,308 What? To run News At Six? 431 00:21:34,473 --> 00:21:37,593 Yeah, I mean... I mean, he basically runs it already. 432 00:21:37,709 --> 00:21:39,989 Dennis is an arse kisser. 433 00:21:40,029 --> 00:21:42,669 Well, he claims he's got a lot of ideas. 434 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:43,908 Well, he's never shared them. 435 00:21:43,918 --> 00:21:45,360 Maybe no-one's ever asked. 436 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,480 You can't wait to be asked in news. 437 00:21:49,106 --> 00:21:50,386 Hey, Helen, I've gotta go. 438 00:21:50,549 --> 00:21:51,869 Why? 439 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,040 I'll talk to you later. 440 00:21:53,553 --> 00:21:54,586 Is Kay there? 441 00:21:54,597 --> 00:21:56,557 Just let me know if any other ideas come up. 442 00:22:00,029 --> 00:22:01,549 Paul Straker. 443 00:22:01,589 --> 00:22:03,299 - Who's that? - He was Dad's producer. 444 00:22:03,310 --> 00:22:05,110 He's the opposite of Lindsay. 445 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,280 He's nervous and compliant, but he's a hard worker 446 00:22:09,291 --> 00:22:10,806 and he knows how to speak to CEOs. 447 00:22:10,817 --> 00:22:12,657 He's exactly what you need. 448 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,280 I'll give you his number... 449 00:22:15,620 --> 00:22:17,380 if you stop work... 450 00:22:21,299 --> 00:22:22,339 right now. 451 00:22:40,220 --> 00:22:42,460 Can you call me King of News again? 452 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,840 You are the King of News. 453 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,102 Linus Preston is on the line. 454 00:24:13,112 --> 00:24:15,653 - Oh. - I can tell him you're out on a story. 455 00:24:20,053 --> 00:24:23,213 No, thank you, Leoni. I'm happy to take the call. 456 00:24:25,312 --> 00:24:27,872 I love your outfit today... especially your belt. 457 00:24:38,629 --> 00:24:39,678 Helen Norville. 458 00:24:39,689 --> 00:24:42,569 Remember how deadly you thought I was the first time you met me? 459 00:24:43,145 --> 00:24:45,665 Times that by 100, Miss Norville. 460 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,095 Deano's in. 461 00:24:48,105 --> 00:24:49,893 He'll talk with you on the air. 462 00:24:49,993 --> 00:24:51,789 I can bring him into your offices whenever you want, 463 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,600 but he's gonna need a suit and not one of them court suits. 464 00:24:54,611 --> 00:24:56,531 Yeah? Make sure you get him a flash suit. 465 00:24:56,579 --> 00:24:58,499 Can't have the brother looking like no-one owns him. 466 00:24:58,510 --> 00:25:00,710 Linus, does Deano genuinely want to speak to me 467 00:25:00,721 --> 00:25:02,041 or have you just worn him down? 468 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,240 No, we wore him down. 469 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:08,080 We make quite the compelling team, you and I, Miss Norville. 470 00:25:08,433 --> 00:25:10,829 OK, well, let's meet here at 9:30 tomorrow morning. 471 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,993 Done. Oh, and make sure you bring one of them flash suits. 472 00:25:13,004 --> 00:25:14,764 Ooh, maybe two, so he can pick, yeah? 473 00:25:15,193 --> 00:25:16,288 OK. Catch ya. 474 00:25:16,298 --> 00:25:17,358 Bye. 475 00:25:18,953 --> 00:25:21,153 Hey, we think the rugby tour is off. 476 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,480 Bill wants a meeting. 477 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,800 Right. 478 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,167 So, basically, all the players that were going to South Africa 479 00:25:43,178 --> 00:25:44,618 have now withdrawn, 480 00:25:44,629 --> 00:25:47,269 but for some reason, none of them are citing the boycott. 481 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,160 So, what reason are they giving? 482 00:25:49,171 --> 00:25:51,426 Uh, "I would have toured South Africa, 483 00:25:51,437 --> 00:25:53,437 but I didn't get enough warning." 484 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,353 And, um, "It would have been very different 485 00:25:56,364 --> 00:25:58,720 if we were invited two months ago." 486 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,280 So try all six players. 487 00:26:02,291 --> 00:26:05,211 I doubt any of them will agree to an interview. 488 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,040 You're very persuasive, Noelene. 489 00:26:10,353 --> 00:26:11,468 Sorry, there's one other thing that 490 00:26:11,478 --> 00:26:13,515 - I'd like to canvass before you leave. - Yep! 491 00:26:13,525 --> 00:26:15,658 You're aware Linus Preston was here yesterday? 492 00:26:15,669 --> 00:26:18,069 - Yeah. - Bill said he was quite vocal. 493 00:26:18,109 --> 00:26:21,909 Well, he was suggesting a story that I have actually followed up on. 494 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,400 - Helen... - OK. 495 00:26:23,506 --> 00:26:25,226 What story? 496 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,180 Linus has a friend... um, Deano is his name... 497 00:26:30,191 --> 00:26:33,071 who played VFL back in the day with Rob. 498 00:26:34,607 --> 00:26:37,567 Now, he said that the racism that he experienced 499 00:26:37,578 --> 00:26:40,218 was so bad that he had to walk away from the sport. 500 00:26:40,389 --> 00:26:44,709 So, given the current debate about race and... and sport, 501 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:49,360 he's decided to share his story with Public Eye. 502 00:26:49,371 --> 00:26:52,531 But I want to be very clear that Rob would not be the focus. 503 00:26:52,542 --> 00:26:54,142 Did he mention Rob in particular? 504 00:26:54,153 --> 00:26:56,673 I've spoken to him only briefly, and no, he didn't. 505 00:26:56,684 --> 00:26:58,324 Is it backed up by the other players? 506 00:26:58,335 --> 00:26:59,473 Noelene... 507 00:26:59,552 --> 00:27:02,592 can I have a private word with Helen, please? 508 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,120 I would never stop this man from telling his own story... 509 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,560 but I couldn't be a part of it in any way. 510 00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:13,400 Of course. 511 00:27:23,732 --> 00:27:25,092 What are you doing? 512 00:27:26,309 --> 00:27:28,429 This is incredibly unfair on Noelene, 513 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,000 just flagging it like that, with her in the meeting, 514 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,320 in front of us all? 515 00:27:35,933 --> 00:27:37,602 Bill, I was giving her fair warning. 516 00:27:37,612 --> 00:27:38,768 Fair warning? 517 00:27:38,779 --> 00:27:40,179 Well, you know what? 518 00:27:40,833 --> 00:27:42,473 It's never gonna fly upstairs. 519 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,566 It's never gonna fly because football is... 520 00:27:45,577 --> 00:27:48,322 is the jewel of... of the crown of this network. 521 00:27:49,469 --> 00:27:50,829 So we don't try? 522 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,840 Have you considered the impact that it might have on the player? 523 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,160 Have you? 524 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,040 Footy is a religion in this country, and say, 525 00:28:00,051 --> 00:28:01,931 and for a Black man to stand up 526 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,720 "Hey, you shouldn't feel joy, you should feel shame..." 527 00:28:07,433 --> 00:28:10,753 The reaction's gonna be brutal, and he will be eviscerated! 528 00:28:36,246 --> 00:28:41,406 Noels, I swear to you, I never did anything racist. 529 00:28:41,589 --> 00:28:43,069 Ever. 530 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,766 I got no idea what he could be talking about. 531 00:28:45,777 --> 00:28:47,457 I mean, he used to call me brother. 532 00:28:47,468 --> 00:28:50,468 He said he left the sport because of the racism he faced. 533 00:28:50,572 --> 00:28:51,626 No, that's not what happened. 534 00:28:51,637 --> 00:28:53,709 He was getting on the sauce 535 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,360 and he was rocking up to training drunk, 536 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,840 so they moved him on. 537 00:28:56,909 --> 00:28:58,913 And you can ask any of the boys that. 538 00:28:58,924 --> 00:29:01,764 Maybe you should see him? Speak to him face to face. 539 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,480 Can you get me his number? 540 00:29:03,491 --> 00:29:04,771 You don't have his number? 541 00:29:05,327 --> 00:29:06,813 I thought you said he was your brother. 542 00:29:06,824 --> 00:29:08,086 Yeah, it's 20 years back. 543 00:29:08,097 --> 00:29:10,617 I think he's out in Gunbower, isn't he? 544 00:29:10,699 --> 00:29:12,939 I can't ask Helen for his private details. 545 00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:16,279 Helen? You're my wife. We have a daughter together. 546 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,840 - How can she... ? - The story came to her. 547 00:29:18,851 --> 00:29:20,251 She didn't seek it out. 548 00:29:20,446 --> 00:29:21,686 Noels, I've done nothing wrong. 549 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,846 And I'm gonna... I'm gonna talk to this bloke, 550 00:29:23,857 --> 00:29:26,817 because the Deano I knew would say the same. 551 00:29:27,286 --> 00:29:28,406 I know he would. 552 00:29:28,906 --> 00:29:30,306 I can't. 553 00:29:31,366 --> 00:29:33,646 I can't talk about this anymore. 554 00:29:48,227 --> 00:29:51,787 Oh, Dale. Um, I'm sorry. Someone's here for you. 555 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,160 It's Evelyn Walters. She's in the studio. 556 00:29:55,538 --> 00:29:57,178 She just showed up at the back door, 557 00:29:57,189 --> 00:29:58,920 and I said, "Dale's upstairs, I'll take you to him," 558 00:29:58,931 --> 00:30:01,171 but she gave me these instructions to bring you to her, 559 00:30:01,182 --> 00:30:03,066 and I don't know why, but I followed them. 560 00:30:03,077 --> 00:30:04,117 Sorry. 561 00:30:07,513 --> 00:30:09,208 Evelyn. Hi. 562 00:30:09,218 --> 00:30:11,473 Another redesign of the set. 563 00:30:13,946 --> 00:30:17,106 Um, no, they did that at the start of the year. 564 00:30:17,117 --> 00:30:18,997 Oh! Apologies. 565 00:30:19,852 --> 00:30:21,452 I haven't watched in a while. 566 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,520 So, you wanted to see me? 567 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,800 I think you know why. 568 00:30:28,987 --> 00:30:31,267 I haven't heard from my daughter in a while, 569 00:30:31,278 --> 00:30:33,998 but if the social pages are to be believed, 570 00:30:34,009 --> 00:30:36,289 she's been spending most of her time with you. 571 00:30:36,399 --> 00:30:40,439 Yes. Yeah. And it's been wonderful getting to know Kay. 572 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,920 I think it's a bit beyond getting to know her. 573 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,040 I know exactly what Kay is doing. 574 00:30:48,051 --> 00:30:50,693 She's always been this way, from the youngest age. 575 00:30:50,704 --> 00:30:55,024 Always steering towards troubling situations. 576 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,160 But I do wonder what you're doing. 577 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,920 I'm very fond of Kay. 578 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,960 She's bright, quick-witted, beautiful... 579 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,080 It was a rhetorical question, Dale. 580 00:31:08,284 --> 00:31:09,908 I know exactly what you're doing. 581 00:31:09,918 --> 00:31:11,282 Oh? 582 00:31:11,293 --> 00:31:13,493 My daughter is fragile. 583 00:31:14,827 --> 00:31:18,187 If you want a pretty little thing to hang off your arm 584 00:31:18,198 --> 00:31:20,558 and make you look less like a pansy... 585 00:31:21,967 --> 00:31:23,327 pick another option. 586 00:31:25,186 --> 00:31:26,866 There's plenty available. 587 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,120 Have a good bulletin. 588 00:31:32,113 --> 00:31:34,313 I'll be watching Public Eye. 589 00:31:43,629 --> 00:31:46,949 Nah, the club only had his old number. It was disconnected. 590 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,400 Yeah, yeah. No. I'll wait. I'll wait. 591 00:31:54,716 --> 00:31:56,214 Nah, you're right, mate. 592 00:31:56,225 --> 00:31:57,913 Thanks. Thanks for looking. 593 00:31:57,973 --> 00:31:59,373 Nah, just... I'll call Mick. 594 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,200 Oh, jeez. Um, thanks for saying that. 595 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,320 Yeah. No, I really appreciate that. 596 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,606 Alright. Yeah. You give my love to Jenny, too, won't you, mate? 597 00:32:12,617 --> 00:32:14,737 Alright. Alright. Hooroo. Bye-bye. 598 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:22,200 I don't have Deano, but I have spoken to about eight of the boys, 599 00:32:22,211 --> 00:32:26,011 and I promise you, they are all just as blindsided by this. 600 00:32:26,306 --> 00:32:28,426 Even Barry. He's a blackfella, too. 601 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,539 I'm sorry, but Noels, when I hear people think I'm racist, 602 00:32:34,550 --> 00:32:37,950 it's like they're saying I don't love my own family, 603 00:32:38,166 --> 00:32:39,806 which is ridiculous. 604 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,480 What? 605 00:32:44,491 --> 00:32:48,331 It has nothing to do with me or Hannah. 606 00:32:48,578 --> 00:32:50,253 - No, no, no, no. - We're not your defence. 607 00:32:50,264 --> 00:32:51,266 No, of course. 608 00:32:51,277 --> 00:32:55,335 I'm just saying that I love you with all my heart, 609 00:32:55,346 --> 00:32:57,680 - so when you get some... - I know you love me. 610 00:32:58,853 --> 00:33:00,173 I don't doubt that. 611 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:05,080 But sometimes... 612 00:33:05,091 --> 00:33:06,331 Oh. 613 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,640 I don't think you see me. 614 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,400 Hey. What... What do you mean? 615 00:33:14,233 --> 00:33:17,473 I think you see the world how it is for you. 616 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,800 And I need you to look harder. 617 00:33:23,846 --> 00:33:25,206 If not for me... 618 00:33:27,406 --> 00:33:29,006 then for your daughter. 619 00:33:41,613 --> 00:33:43,653 Oh, thanks, Noels. Thanks. Noels. 620 00:33:46,446 --> 00:33:47,886 Thank you for this. 621 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,240 Just... 622 00:33:51,860 --> 00:33:53,060 listen to him. 623 00:33:53,613 --> 00:33:55,253 Yeah, I... I will. 624 00:34:08,846 --> 00:34:10,406 - Hello? - Hi. Sorry. 625 00:34:10,417 --> 00:34:12,537 I know it's really late. I was just... 626 00:34:12,548 --> 00:34:16,148 I was wondering, does Deano Prince live there by any chance? 627 00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:18,399 - Do you have a name? - Yeah. Yes. 628 00:34:18,410 --> 00:34:21,490 Um, sorry, it's Rob Rickards. I used to play footy with... 629 00:34:21,720 --> 00:34:23,240 Oh, shit. 630 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,560 Linus! 631 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,468 Rob Rickards? 632 00:34:27,478 --> 00:34:28,800 What were you thinking? 633 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,240 And you! 634 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,960 10 years it took me to drag you up out of the gutter, 635 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,040 and now you want to go back to that shit? 636 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,628 - Why do you want to do that to yourself? - Let me talk to him! 637 00:34:37,638 --> 00:34:38,760 Let me talk to him! 638 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,520 This bloke, you haven't seen him since the '70s. 639 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,419 - Do you know what he's gonna say? - Let me talk to him. 640 00:34:42,430 --> 00:34:44,059 Shut up, Linus! Aunty, I'm agreeing with you. 641 00:34:44,353 --> 00:34:46,713 - Just chill out. - Chill? 642 00:34:46,812 --> 00:34:50,332 My house! Hmm? My brother, my backyard. 643 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,080 - Hey, hey, hey! - Cops are here. 644 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,680 - Now, just... Just calm down. - Calm down. 645 00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:56,760 I'll go. I'll go, I'll go. 646 00:35:15,833 --> 00:35:17,313 - Hey. - Get in. 647 00:35:29,539 --> 00:35:30,739 Ohh. 648 00:35:30,750 --> 00:35:32,990 You got a key for your place or something? 649 00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:34,360 No. 650 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,360 I wanted to, um... 651 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,880 Well, I, uh... 652 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,560 I wanted to say that I... 653 00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:52,480 I won't be needing your services anymore. 654 00:35:55,313 --> 00:35:56,593 Alright. 655 00:35:59,126 --> 00:36:00,366 That it? 656 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:02,520 Yeah. That's it. 657 00:36:06,025 --> 00:36:08,785 You're booking me to tell me you won't be booking me anymore? 658 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:13,120 Yeah. 659 00:36:15,619 --> 00:36:17,139 'Cause your new girlfriend? 660 00:36:18,472 --> 00:36:19,508 Well... 661 00:36:19,518 --> 00:36:20,920 I don't care. 662 00:36:21,219 --> 00:36:23,859 I'm your escort, Dale, not your boyfriend. 663 00:36:28,926 --> 00:36:30,046 That's right. 664 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:32,600 So... 665 00:36:33,826 --> 00:36:35,826 That's for tonight. 666 00:36:36,473 --> 00:36:37,873 OK? 667 00:36:41,007 --> 00:36:44,567 And that is for your continued discretion. 668 00:36:46,773 --> 00:36:47,973 Fine. 669 00:36:54,227 --> 00:36:55,467 Say, "Thank you." 670 00:37:04,446 --> 00:37:05,501 Say, "Thank you." 671 00:37:05,511 --> 00:37:06,639 Fuck you. 672 00:37:08,053 --> 00:37:10,133 I'm not on your fucking time anymore. 673 00:37:11,473 --> 00:37:12,513 Prick. 674 00:37:45,006 --> 00:37:46,686 - Darling... - I don't want to talk. 675 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,400 I'm not staying, Mum. 676 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,000 What are you doing? 677 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,160 I can't believe that you accosted Dale at his work. 678 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,480 Oh, I didn't accost anyone. 679 00:37:58,229 --> 00:38:01,469 And what would you have me do? I haven't seen you in weeks. 680 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,520 Nothing. Nothing is an option. 681 00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:05,766 I'm sorry, darling, 682 00:38:05,777 --> 00:38:09,177 but when a mother has seen the things I've seen, 683 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:14,160 to watch her daughter steer towards a very troubled man 684 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,080 is deeply worrying. 685 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,280 I don't think you're worried. I think you're jealous. 686 00:38:18,349 --> 00:38:20,860 You're jealous that there's all this attention around me now - 687 00:38:20,871 --> 00:38:22,511 more than there ever was around you... 688 00:38:22,522 --> 00:38:23,882 and you're not part of it. 689 00:38:24,845 --> 00:38:28,525 In fact, you're completely irrelevant, and you can't stand it. 690 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,400 Have you taken something? 691 00:38:34,833 --> 00:38:36,073 Argh! 692 00:38:45,847 --> 00:38:47,349 - Hey. - Hi. 693 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,520 - Did you hear about the player? - No. 694 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,120 Uh, Jules noted on the police scanner last night at 11. 695 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,400 Uh, police were dispatched to a house in the west 696 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,720 after a neighbour's complaint. 697 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,760 Deano Prince, Aboriginal, 40, 698 00:38:58,771 --> 00:39:01,811 was arrested after a physical altercation with two policemen. 699 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,068 He's in custody? 700 00:39:03,078 --> 00:39:05,602 - Yeah. Seems so. - What police station? 701 00:39:05,612 --> 00:39:07,800 I'd assume Hyde Street. Why? 702 00:39:07,869 --> 00:39:09,989 Hey, Leoni? Leoni? 703 00:39:10,007 --> 00:39:12,253 I need a crew to meet me at Hyde Street police station. 704 00:39:12,264 --> 00:39:13,640 I'm heading there right now. 705 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:27,920 Hi. 706 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:29,440 Are you alright? 707 00:39:29,451 --> 00:39:30,891 Seriously, Helen, get rid of the cameras. 708 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,766 They're not filming. They're just here in case. 709 00:39:32,777 --> 00:39:34,057 I said no cameras! 710 00:39:37,753 --> 00:39:40,473 Can you put it away? Just... just put it back in the car. 711 00:39:44,447 --> 00:39:46,527 What... what... what happened? 712 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,080 He find out from you? Robbie? 713 00:39:51,613 --> 00:39:52,933 I'm sorry? 714 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,800 He found out somehow. 715 00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:00,980 Oh, I'm so sorry I had to... I had to... 716 00:40:00,991 --> 00:40:03,231 - I told my colleagues at work. - His missus? 717 00:40:04,953 --> 00:40:05,993 Yeah. 718 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,280 You tell Robbie if he wants to speak to me, 719 00:40:09,291 --> 00:40:10,800 he sees me face to face, OK? 720 00:40:11,791 --> 00:40:13,151 OK. 721 00:40:14,893 --> 00:40:16,413 Shit. I'm so sorry. 722 00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:18,280 I... 723 00:40:19,326 --> 00:40:20,806 How did you end up here? 724 00:40:20,817 --> 00:40:24,777 Mr Rickards started calling up Aunty's house non-stop. 725 00:40:24,788 --> 00:40:28,028 She started yelling up at Deano, yelling up at me. 726 00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:29,759 Neighbours called the cops, and here we are. 727 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,160 You know, the funny thing is, 728 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,093 we've been calling the cops on the white fella next door 729 00:40:34,104 --> 00:40:36,224 every time he lays into his wife each pay day. 730 00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,280 They never show up. 731 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,360 But when it's us? Minutes. 732 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,640 So, what did he actually do? The charge was assault. 733 00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:48,440 Seriously? 734 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:55,960 I'm sorry. I... 735 00:40:55,971 --> 00:40:57,451 Aunty was right about you. 736 00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:02,700 I thought you were one of the good ones. 737 00:41:12,246 --> 00:41:15,646 Then we fall on our distress tolerance skills. What are they? 738 00:41:15,657 --> 00:41:17,333 I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. 739 00:41:17,344 --> 00:41:19,264 You've used cold showers. You've used ice. 740 00:41:19,620 --> 00:41:22,740 - Martha, I'm in my office. - OK, then. Physical exertion. 741 00:41:22,751 --> 00:41:25,311 Is there a staircase? Run up and down it. 742 00:41:25,322 --> 00:41:26,882 I just feel... I feel like maybe this... 743 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,040 I feel like I'm supposed to be feeling this. 744 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,680 You know, like, it's a... it's a fucking awful situation. 745 00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:35,600 Yes, it is an awful situation and your feelings are valid. 746 00:41:35,611 --> 00:41:39,011 This therapy is not about denying your feelings. 747 00:41:39,326 --> 00:41:41,600 It's about bringing you to a frame of mind 748 00:41:41,611 --> 00:41:44,091 where you can better navigate the situation. 749 00:41:44,102 --> 00:41:47,662 And right now, you need a distress tolerance skill, 750 00:41:47,759 --> 00:41:49,279 so pick one. 751 00:42:25,253 --> 00:42:27,266 Hey, we are leading with pilot strike. 752 00:42:27,277 --> 00:42:28,397 Mm-hm. 753 00:42:33,319 --> 00:42:34,559 Voila. 754 00:42:36,726 --> 00:42:38,686 I've probably gone into too much detail, 755 00:42:38,697 --> 00:42:41,697 but the first three pages basically outline. 756 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:45,920 Mmm. 757 00:42:47,853 --> 00:42:48,893 Um... 758 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,960 So, Dennis, I think we've found the candidate. 759 00:42:57,433 --> 00:42:58,473 What? 760 00:42:59,233 --> 00:43:00,393 Paul Stricker. 761 00:43:01,166 --> 00:43:03,206 Paul Stricker from The Walters Report? 762 00:43:03,217 --> 00:43:06,377 Mmm. He's, um... he's experienced, 763 00:43:06,388 --> 00:43:09,908 he's out of contract, so he ticks every box. 764 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,920 But I haven't even had a... had a meeting yet. 765 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,680 Mmm. 766 00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:19,480 Is this all signed off from upstairs? 767 00:43:23,629 --> 00:43:25,900 I promise none of these ideas will go to waste. 768 00:43:25,911 --> 00:43:28,031 No, I just... I just want a shot. 769 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,040 That's all I'm asking, mate. Just a shot. Right? 770 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,800 You've worked with me for so many years now. 771 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:34,280 Surely that gets me a shot. 772 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,280 I know this isn't what you wanted, 773 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:48,280 but I'm confident that Paul Stricker is the best option for all of us. 774 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,720 Well, they are great. 775 00:44:03,500 --> 00:44:06,140 Thanks very much. Very, very intuitive. 776 00:44:07,653 --> 00:44:09,853 Yes, of course, of course. 777 00:44:09,864 --> 00:44:11,904 Um... Hang on a tick, mate. 778 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,240 You were right. 779 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:15,680 You've got problems with Dale. 780 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,880 He's working against you, and he's recruited Rob. 781 00:44:22,333 --> 00:44:24,773 Richard, I'll have to call you back, mate. Sorry. 782 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,360 They want to replace you. 783 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,120 And they've got a name confirmed. 784 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,920 Paul Stricker. 785 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,040 Yeah. 786 00:44:46,620 --> 00:44:48,309 - Robbie. - Deano. 787 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,640 - How you been, brother? - Good. 788 00:44:50,651 --> 00:44:52,611 It's been some years. 789 00:44:52,622 --> 00:44:53,982 It has been, yeah. 790 00:44:55,059 --> 00:44:57,059 You're looking good. Fit. 791 00:44:59,127 --> 00:45:00,447 Liar. 792 00:45:02,493 --> 00:45:05,258 - I heard you're a dad now. - Yeah. 793 00:45:05,269 --> 00:45:07,509 Yeah. Brand-new. Little... 794 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,120 Little Hannah. 795 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:10,480 Hey, can I...? 796 00:45:11,229 --> 00:45:13,389 - Hey, how's young, um... - Jerome? 797 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,160 - Yeah. - Yeah, he's good. He's good. 798 00:45:21,166 --> 00:45:24,006 I mean, you can relax. I'm not gonna talk on the telly. 799 00:45:26,486 --> 00:45:28,086 Oh, mate, I... 800 00:45:31,522 --> 00:45:32,913 You gotta say whatever you want to say, 801 00:45:32,924 --> 00:45:34,964 but I'm just trying to understand... 802 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,840 what I did, 'cause I think back on those days, 803 00:45:38,851 --> 00:45:41,411 and they're all happy memories. 804 00:45:41,422 --> 00:45:42,982 You and me and the boys. 805 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,880 You did nothing, Robbie. 806 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,240 Well, that's good to hear. 807 00:45:51,326 --> 00:45:53,286 When I ran out onto that field... 808 00:45:55,533 --> 00:45:57,373 the whole crowd yelling at me... 809 00:45:59,866 --> 00:46:01,346 you did nothing. 810 00:46:03,499 --> 00:46:04,739 Well, the names. 811 00:46:05,620 --> 00:46:09,980 It was shockin' what they yelled out, but that was to all of us. 812 00:46:10,593 --> 00:46:12,713 "Boofhead" was as bad as you got it. 813 00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,360 I got called... 814 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:25,320 "abo", "coon", "gorilla"... the whole lot. 815 00:46:27,093 --> 00:46:28,373 Mate, I... 816 00:46:29,067 --> 00:46:33,227 I just didn't realise that it troubled you. 817 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,120 'Cause, I'd watch you play, 818 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,200 you used to seem so strong on that field. 819 00:46:37,240 --> 00:46:40,280 Yeah, I used it in the early years, yeah, to fuel my fire. 820 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,360 - You remember the later season? - Yeah, I would have backed ya. 821 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:46,720 Yeah, it's just one of those things. 822 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,459 You snap back at 'em. Sometimes it makes it even worse. 823 00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:52,126 Even after the game, Robbie, Well, you didn't say nothing. 824 00:46:53,953 --> 00:46:55,113 No-one did. 825 00:46:56,686 --> 00:46:57,726 Mate, I would... 826 00:46:58,966 --> 00:47:01,966 I would walk towards the locker room 827 00:47:01,977 --> 00:47:04,377 and I could hear all you boys laughing. 828 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:06,959 A good time, celebrating. 829 00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:12,560 As soon as I enter... 830 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,560 silence. 831 00:47:17,893 --> 00:47:19,293 And when I heard you on telly, 832 00:47:19,304 --> 00:47:22,424 saying, "We don't see colour in our sport"... 833 00:47:24,820 --> 00:47:26,140 that... 834 00:47:27,405 --> 00:47:28,885 cut me. 835 00:47:34,879 --> 00:47:36,079 Yeah. 836 00:47:39,662 --> 00:47:42,422 You take care of that daughter of yours. 837 00:47:42,433 --> 00:47:43,673 OK? 838 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,360 - Hey. - Can we talk? 839 00:48:06,371 --> 00:48:08,091 - Yeah. - Great. 840 00:48:09,139 --> 00:48:11,259 - You OK? - Yeah. Yes. 841 00:48:26,149 --> 00:48:27,513 I... 842 00:48:27,524 --> 00:48:29,724 I just want us to be on the same team. 843 00:48:32,033 --> 00:48:33,993 - We are. - But we're not. 844 00:48:34,812 --> 00:48:36,100 We're not. We have been 845 00:48:36,111 --> 00:48:38,326 at each other's throats since we got back, 846 00:48:38,337 --> 00:48:41,377 and I absolutely take my part in it. 847 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:45,840 But... 848 00:48:47,587 --> 00:48:50,987 we were so great overseas. 849 00:48:51,745 --> 00:48:53,305 And I just want that back. 850 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:54,640 Yeah. 851 00:48:55,779 --> 00:48:58,899 'Cause, I mean, this is our show. 852 00:48:59,391 --> 00:49:04,551 Like, we pitched it and I can't... I can't do it without you. 853 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,040 And I don't want to do it without you. 854 00:49:10,493 --> 00:49:12,013 I'm here. 855 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:13,880 I'm with you. 856 00:49:13,891 --> 00:49:15,691 - Really? - Yes. I love you. 857 00:49:15,702 --> 00:49:17,159 - I love you, too. - I love you. 858 00:49:17,170 --> 00:49:19,130 - I love you, too. - I'm in love with you. 859 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,480 I'm sorry, Helen. I didn't... I thought... 860 00:50:00,149 --> 00:50:01,962 Can we get a drink? 861 00:50:01,972 --> 00:50:03,269 I just want to clear the air. 862 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,680 Tonight on Public Eye, Australia's mental health crisis. 863 00:50:06,691 --> 00:50:09,251 Are patients falling through the cracks? 864 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:10,720 Have you seen the paper? 865 00:50:10,731 --> 00:50:12,531 You're on the front cover. 866 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,040 The headline is Helen Not-Normal. 867 00:50:17,166 --> 00:50:20,366 You control what you do next. 868 00:50:20,426 --> 00:50:24,346 Do you know how much a story like that is worth, Dale? 869 00:50:24,357 --> 00:50:25,677 So, what do you want? 870 00:50:27,359 --> 00:50:29,159 Should you just tell this yourself? 871 00:50:29,170 --> 00:50:32,090 People do not forgive this kind of confusion in men. 872 00:50:32,653 --> 00:50:37,653 - Synced and corrected by naFraC - - www.addic7ed.com -