1 00:00:05,173 --> 00:00:07,425 It seems as though the communication issues 2 00:00:07,509 --> 00:00:10,929 between first officers and captains in regards to assertiveness 3 00:00:11,346 --> 00:00:15,976 is possibly the number one contributing factor 4 00:00:16,059 --> 00:00:19,896 to commercial airline crashes in history. 5 00:00:20,063 --> 00:00:25,318 And it has not been solved. And there have been steps made by… 6 00:00:26,027 --> 00:00:29,906 John in his work over the years and others in the industry. 7 00:00:30,156 --> 00:00:35,203 However, both of us feel that the solutions 8 00:00:35,286 --> 00:00:39,124 and current pilot training are far from sufficient. 9 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:41,126 Would you agree? 10 00:00:42,377 --> 00:00:46,923 You could… Why don't you say that the training could be improved? 11 00:00:47,549 --> 00:00:51,803 The training could be improved because right now, it's terrible. 12 00:00:52,095 --> 00:00:53,513 - No, I wouldn't go that far. - Okay. 13 00:00:53,596 --> 00:00:55,974 There is a void in some training programs… 14 00:00:56,057 --> 00:00:58,351 - You said it was bad. - It is bad. 15 00:00:58,435 --> 00:01:00,103 - The outcome is bad. - It's bad. 16 00:01:03,857 --> 00:01:06,943 All right, so this needs to be better scripted 17 00:01:08,194 --> 00:01:13,074 on the point of what the problem is, a possible solution, 18 00:01:13,533 --> 00:01:16,911 and asking for the committee to 19 00:01:17,829 --> 00:01:21,875 request the FAA to conduct a research project… 20 00:01:21,958 --> 00:01:26,421 Ever since I began this mission to help stop planes from crashing, 21 00:01:26,755 --> 00:01:30,967 I've always known that all roads would lead to Washington, D.C. 22 00:01:31,259 --> 00:01:34,345 So, I had been rehearsing my approach with actors 23 00:01:34,471 --> 00:01:37,766 who had done in-depth research into every lawmaker 24 00:01:37,849 --> 00:01:40,769 on the Congressional Aviation Subcommittee. 25 00:01:41,519 --> 00:01:44,606 Getting this issue on their radar was the best shot I had 26 00:01:44,773 --> 00:01:46,858 at effecting real change. 27 00:01:46,941 --> 00:01:49,694 And that's why we need the help of this committee… 28 00:01:49,778 --> 00:01:51,446 - Yes. - …and of this Congress… 29 00:01:51,529 --> 00:01:54,407 - Yes. - …to try to drive the FAA 30 00:01:54,824 --> 00:01:57,243 towards the research, and… 31 00:01:57,327 --> 00:01:59,496 Because if you do nothing, people will die. 32 00:02:00,705 --> 00:02:02,207 - Right? - That's correct. 33 00:02:03,333 --> 00:02:06,795 Months ago, I learned that Warner Bros. Discovery, 34 00:02:06,878 --> 00:02:11,466 the parent company of HBO, has a special department of lobbyists 35 00:02:11,549 --> 00:02:14,677 that have sway with politicians in Washington. 36 00:02:15,595 --> 00:02:18,765 I was put in touch with them, and their lobbyist said 37 00:02:18,848 --> 00:02:22,560 that he would reach out to the chair of the Aviation Subcommittee, 38 00:02:22,811 --> 00:02:26,564 this man, Louisiana Congressman, Garret Graves, 39 00:02:26,648 --> 00:02:28,191 to see if he would meet with me. 40 00:02:28,274 --> 00:02:30,610 Here's my problem, Mr. Fielder. 41 00:02:33,029 --> 00:02:34,030 It's the money. 42 00:02:34,114 --> 00:02:37,450 But my theory on how this cockpit communication issue 43 00:02:37,492 --> 00:02:40,829 could be solved was proving difficult to explain. 44 00:02:40,954 --> 00:02:44,916 I think we all struggle with things from time to time 45 00:02:44,999 --> 00:02:50,171 where it's hard for us to be the people 46 00:02:50,255 --> 00:02:53,466 we ideally want to be in every situation. 47 00:02:53,550 --> 00:02:57,679 And the social pressures are on everyone, including pilots. 48 00:02:57,804 --> 00:03:01,516 I shared the story of how a real co-pilot like Colin 49 00:03:01,599 --> 00:03:05,270 was able to overcome his fear of social consequences, 50 00:03:05,353 --> 00:03:07,564 and ask his crush for a kiss 51 00:03:07,647 --> 00:03:10,024 just because I gave him a scene description 52 00:03:10,108 --> 00:03:13,945 and told him he was now playing a character instead of himself. 53 00:03:14,028 --> 00:03:18,533 All this takes is a document being sent 54 00:03:18,616 --> 00:03:21,744 to captains and first officers before the flight. 55 00:03:21,828 --> 00:03:24,414 So, if there was an acknowledgment between the two pilots 56 00:03:24,497 --> 00:03:28,751 that they were in a scene together, they'd be able to lean on that fact 57 00:03:28,835 --> 00:03:31,504 in the aftermath of speaking up or being too assertive 58 00:03:31,588 --> 00:03:33,173 or taking the controls. 59 00:03:33,256 --> 00:03:37,635 "Oh, I was just playing the character that the FAA told me to play." 60 00:03:38,553 --> 00:03:39,679 Is that… 61 00:03:40,346 --> 00:03:42,265 Yes, and put that into aviation speak, 62 00:03:42,682 --> 00:03:44,934 CRM, Cockpit Resource Management. 63 00:03:45,351 --> 00:03:48,771 This takes it a step and a half further. 64 00:03:49,022 --> 00:03:51,107 This is better, is what we're saying. 65 00:03:51,191 --> 00:03:52,817 Okay. So, we've looked at it. 66 00:03:52,901 --> 00:03:55,570 Nathan has invested a lot of his own time and money, 67 00:03:55,653 --> 00:03:57,488 - and we've brought it… - Well, not my own money, but… 68 00:03:57,655 --> 00:03:59,616 - The network's money, yes. - We've brought it to this point. 69 00:03:59,699 --> 00:04:00,950 We've brought it to this point. 70 00:04:01,534 --> 00:04:03,536 But I knew it would be hard to overcome 71 00:04:03,620 --> 00:04:05,079 the committee's skepticism 72 00:04:05,163 --> 00:04:08,166 when the only evidence of this working was footage 73 00:04:08,249 --> 00:04:11,002 of a co-pilot kissing his crush on the cheek, 74 00:04:11,085 --> 00:04:13,254 and not even going for the mouth. 75 00:04:13,713 --> 00:04:15,715 You're gonna have to forgive me, Mr. Fielder. 76 00:04:15,798 --> 00:04:17,342 I'm not following. 77 00:04:17,550 --> 00:04:21,554 You're saying you want pilots to kiss each other? 78 00:04:21,638 --> 00:04:23,306 They're… No, it's… No… 79 00:04:23,389 --> 00:04:24,933 Pilots are not gonna be kissing each other, 80 00:04:25,016 --> 00:04:26,976 so don't get hung up on the kiss thing. 81 00:04:27,060 --> 00:04:29,187 That's just to demonstrate… 82 00:04:29,270 --> 00:04:32,774 It's not about the kiss, it's about the change in behavior. 83 00:04:33,066 --> 00:04:36,236 John had warned me that my background as a comedian 84 00:04:36,319 --> 00:04:39,447 - might be my biggest liability. - So, they're gonna challenge you. 85 00:04:39,530 --> 00:04:40,990 So, that's why you need to do your homework. 86 00:04:41,074 --> 00:04:42,325 Challenge me how? 87 00:04:42,450 --> 00:04:46,204 Also, Mr. Fielder, where does your sense of altruism come from, 88 00:04:46,287 --> 00:04:47,747 where all of a sudden you wanna save lives? 89 00:04:47,830 --> 00:04:50,583 You're known for pranking, for causing pranks. 90 00:04:50,833 --> 00:04:53,294 I don't know what you're talking about with this prank stuff. 91 00:04:53,378 --> 00:04:55,255 - I really don't. I think… - Well, that's what you do 92 00:04:55,421 --> 00:04:57,173 - for a living as an actor, isn't it? - Excuse me, sir. 93 00:04:57,257 --> 00:05:00,426 I think you have a misunderstanding of my work. 94 00:05:00,510 --> 00:05:04,722 If we were before a real committee in Congress, 95 00:05:06,266 --> 00:05:08,351 you would've been thrown out already. 96 00:05:08,810 --> 00:05:10,853 So we're gonna be front… we're gonna go before… 97 00:05:10,937 --> 00:05:12,647 - Okay. Yeah, I… - …the American public, 98 00:05:12,730 --> 00:05:14,274 and you don't want it to look like a joke 99 00:05:14,357 --> 00:05:17,860 if you wanna deliver a good program. And this is… It's… 100 00:05:29,706 --> 00:05:32,750 I began studying footage of other comedians 101 00:05:32,834 --> 00:05:36,504 who went before Congress to discuss serious issues. 102 00:05:36,629 --> 00:05:38,756 Now we'll turn to Mr. Seth Rogen. 103 00:05:38,840 --> 00:05:40,717 Mr. Rogen, welcome. And please proceed. 104 00:05:40,925 --> 00:05:42,468 And to my surprise, 105 00:05:42,593 --> 00:05:45,930 they often began by trying to make everyone laugh. 106 00:05:46,014 --> 00:05:48,891 First, I should answer the question I assume many of you are asking. 107 00:05:48,975 --> 00:05:50,643 Yes, I'm aware this has nothing to do 108 00:05:50,768 --> 00:05:52,729 with the legalization of marijuana. 109 00:05:52,812 --> 00:05:56,232 As evidence, I would like to submit a video of my colonoscopy 110 00:05:56,316 --> 00:05:57,692 into the congressional record. 111 00:05:57,817 --> 00:06:00,778 And I would like to thank Ranking Member Patrick McHenry 112 00:06:00,862 --> 00:06:02,905 for taking the time to Google who I am. 113 00:06:04,115 --> 00:06:07,785 But I started to realize this might be a strategy. 114 00:06:08,328 --> 00:06:11,456 Everyone expects a comedian to be funny. 115 00:06:11,622 --> 00:06:14,751 So, by getting a joke out of the way early on, 116 00:06:14,834 --> 00:06:18,713 it allows people to take the serious stuff seriously. 117 00:06:18,796 --> 00:06:20,465 There is no way to prevent, cure, 118 00:06:20,548 --> 00:06:23,134 or even slow the progression of Alzheimer's disease. 119 00:06:23,676 --> 00:06:25,762 Maybe this is what I was missing. 120 00:06:25,845 --> 00:06:28,014 Thank you so much for having me, Mr. Chairman, 121 00:06:28,765 --> 00:06:30,767 Ranking Member. It's an honor to be here 122 00:06:30,850 --> 00:06:33,186 in front of the Aviation Subcommittee. 123 00:06:33,603 --> 00:06:35,355 You know, the last time I had to answer 124 00:06:35,438 --> 00:06:36,856 to a transportation authority 125 00:06:36,939 --> 00:06:39,609 was when I got caught masturbating on that bus. 126 00:06:40,109 --> 00:06:41,527 But in my defense, 127 00:06:41,611 --> 00:06:45,656 the driver did keep telling me to "get off," so… 128 00:06:49,744 --> 00:06:52,705 All right, well, that was just a little joke 129 00:06:53,039 --> 00:06:55,333 to, you know, lighten the mood there. 130 00:06:55,416 --> 00:06:58,878 And now we're gonna… In all seriousness, 131 00:06:58,961 --> 00:07:01,798 I do wanna speak about an issue that's become… 132 00:07:03,299 --> 00:07:06,636 deeply important to me, which is aviation safety. 133 00:07:06,719 --> 00:07:10,640 But I instantly realized something was wrong with this rehearsal 134 00:07:10,723 --> 00:07:12,517 when no one in the room laughed. 135 00:07:14,060 --> 00:07:18,689 Hey, I was just wondering, did you find that joke funny? 136 00:07:18,773 --> 00:07:20,441 - Absolutely. - The bus joke? 137 00:07:20,566 --> 00:07:22,652 - I love that bus joke. - Oh, yeah? Okay. 138 00:07:22,944 --> 00:07:24,821 Cool. 'Cause I noticed you didn't laugh. 139 00:07:24,904 --> 00:07:27,532 - I didn't know. - What? 140 00:07:27,615 --> 00:07:29,242 - I didn't know. - Didn't know what? 141 00:07:29,325 --> 00:07:30,701 If I was supposed to laugh. 142 00:07:31,327 --> 00:07:33,538 I mean, you're not supposed to laugh. 143 00:07:33,621 --> 00:07:35,373 I mean, you're not supposed to do anything. 144 00:07:35,456 --> 00:07:37,542 You're just supposed to act like a human, you know? 145 00:07:37,625 --> 00:07:39,460 - Okay, cool. - So, if you find something funny, 146 00:07:39,544 --> 00:07:40,962 - then… then laugh, yeah. - Just go for it. 147 00:07:41,045 --> 00:07:42,672 - Okay, awesome. - If you find it funny. 148 00:07:42,797 --> 00:07:46,050 - Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah. - Okay, cool. Thank you so much. 149 00:07:46,134 --> 00:07:47,927 Thank you. I'm sorry, what was your name? 150 00:07:48,010 --> 00:07:49,053 - Nathan. - Troy. 151 00:07:49,137 --> 00:07:50,513 - Troy. Thank you, yeah. - Thank you. 152 00:07:50,596 --> 00:07:51,848 - Thanks, Troy. Okay. - Thank you. 153 00:07:51,931 --> 00:07:55,017 Hey, everyone. Just a little reminder in case there's any confusion. 154 00:07:55,685 --> 00:07:57,687 We're all playing like human beings, right? 155 00:07:57,770 --> 00:08:00,940 So, if you as a human find something funny, 156 00:08:01,691 --> 00:08:04,986 it's okay to laugh. However, your version of a human. 157 00:08:05,069 --> 00:08:08,364 So, just… Yeah. Got it? 158 00:08:08,573 --> 00:08:09,949 Okay. Good. 159 00:08:10,032 --> 00:08:12,660 The last time I had to answer to a transportation authority 160 00:08:12,743 --> 00:08:15,788 is when I got caught masturbating on that bus. 161 00:08:17,331 --> 00:08:18,624 But in my defense, 162 00:08:19,083 --> 00:08:21,627 the driver did keep telling me to "get off." 163 00:08:40,688 --> 00:08:41,814 Okay. Good, good. 164 00:08:41,898 --> 00:08:43,816 I just don't want anyone to force a laugh. 165 00:08:43,900 --> 00:08:45,151 So, if your, you know, 166 00:08:45,234 --> 00:08:47,570 if your body naturally wants to laugh, 167 00:08:47,653 --> 00:08:49,572 just make the sound that that would make. 168 00:08:49,655 --> 00:08:52,783 But the fake laughs aren't really helpful 169 00:08:52,867 --> 00:08:55,745 'cause I'm trying to figure out what works and what doesn't. 170 00:08:55,995 --> 00:08:59,832 Let's go one more time. Yeah. 171 00:08:59,916 --> 00:09:02,752 But before I could fully figure things out, 172 00:09:02,835 --> 00:09:06,047 I got an email from the Warner Bros. Lobbyists, 173 00:09:06,172 --> 00:09:08,758 saying that Congressman Graves's office 174 00:09:08,841 --> 00:09:10,510 declined a meeting with me, 175 00:09:10,593 --> 00:09:14,722 stating, "They didn't think it was the right fit for them." 176 00:09:16,641 --> 00:09:19,310 I started to wonder if they Googled me. 177 00:09:19,602 --> 00:09:21,020 Because if they did, 178 00:09:21,687 --> 00:09:22,813 all they would have discovered 179 00:09:22,897 --> 00:09:26,776 is nothing but a man acting like a complete fool. 180 00:09:28,528 --> 00:09:31,364 Every public opportunity I've had in my life 181 00:09:31,447 --> 00:09:35,701 to convey sincerity, I instead turned into a joke. 182 00:09:35,785 --> 00:09:39,413 Is this a new look that you're… you have? 183 00:09:40,081 --> 00:09:41,207 It's just me. 184 00:09:42,333 --> 00:09:44,168 I couldn't help myself. 185 00:09:44,669 --> 00:09:49,549 And now, when lives were on the line, it was coming back to haunt me. 186 00:09:51,717 --> 00:09:53,719 But as I kept searching Google 187 00:09:53,803 --> 00:09:57,181 for any trace of something serious about myself, 188 00:09:57,515 --> 00:10:00,142 I stumbled upon an article someone wrote 189 00:10:00,226 --> 00:10:03,020 about how this show, The Rehearsal, 190 00:10:03,104 --> 00:10:06,065 reflected their experience with autism. 191 00:10:07,483 --> 00:10:09,193 It was an odd perspective 192 00:10:09,277 --> 00:10:12,238 since this show had nothing to do with autism. 193 00:10:13,614 --> 00:10:17,785 But as I kept Googling, I realized it was everywhere. 194 00:10:19,829 --> 00:10:23,374 This show seemed to be embraced by a specific group 195 00:10:23,457 --> 00:10:25,543 that I didn't know anything about. 196 00:10:26,002 --> 00:10:27,795 But most interestingly, 197 00:10:27,878 --> 00:10:30,965 this group appeared to take me seriously. 198 00:10:31,591 --> 00:10:34,719 They found the show to be a rare representation 199 00:10:34,802 --> 00:10:38,931 of the way they think, even though that was never my intent. 200 00:10:40,975 --> 00:10:44,645 Aside from Graves, the lobbyists told me there was only 201 00:10:44,729 --> 00:10:46,897 one other Congressperson on the committee 202 00:10:46,981 --> 00:10:49,400 that could grant me access to a hearing. 203 00:10:49,483 --> 00:10:51,527 Complacency is a luxury we cannot afford 204 00:10:51,611 --> 00:10:52,945 when it comes to aviation safety. 205 00:10:53,029 --> 00:10:57,408 The committee's Ranking Member, Tennessee Congressman, Steve Cohen. 206 00:10:57,825 --> 00:11:00,328 And when I looked him up, I discovered 207 00:11:00,411 --> 00:11:04,749 that he happened to be a member of the Congressional Autism Caucus. 208 00:11:05,041 --> 00:11:06,834 And as an autism advocate, 209 00:11:06,917 --> 00:11:10,713 he had been pushing legislation in support of several groups 210 00:11:10,796 --> 00:11:12,131 in that community. 211 00:11:13,090 --> 00:11:16,135 I wasn't known as an aviation authority, 212 00:11:16,218 --> 00:11:19,639 but maybe by mistake, I was an autism authority. 213 00:11:25,269 --> 00:11:26,646 Could this be my path 214 00:11:26,729 --> 00:11:29,440 to getting taken seriously in Washington? 215 00:11:31,359 --> 00:11:33,778 To becoming a man who touches others 216 00:11:33,861 --> 00:11:35,321 on a deeper level? 217 00:11:36,572 --> 00:11:40,284 A man who is seen as an inspiration to humanity 218 00:11:41,369 --> 00:11:43,287 and not just a punchline? 219 00:11:47,792 --> 00:11:50,711 So, to find out how to better speak on the issue, 220 00:11:50,795 --> 00:11:54,173 I arranged a meeting with Dr. Doreen Granpeesheh 221 00:11:54,256 --> 00:11:57,259 from the Center for Autism and Related Disorders. 222 00:11:57,343 --> 00:12:00,471 Everything from understanding someone else's perspective 223 00:12:00,554 --> 00:12:03,599 - to telling a joke to… - You teach that? 224 00:12:03,683 --> 00:12:05,559 We teach all of that. 225 00:12:05,643 --> 00:12:08,187 That's why Rehearsal is so amazing to watch 226 00:12:08,270 --> 00:12:09,897 because that's what we do. 227 00:12:09,980 --> 00:12:12,900 We practice things that we know 228 00:12:12,983 --> 00:12:15,319 are going to be very socially difficult for them. 229 00:12:15,653 --> 00:12:17,697 Yeah, it's interesting how the show resonated 230 00:12:17,780 --> 00:12:21,450 with this group specifically because you know, as humans, 231 00:12:21,534 --> 00:12:24,120 you know, I feel like it's just how our brains work, right? 232 00:12:24,203 --> 00:12:27,498 We all wish we could practice for our lives, you know? 233 00:12:27,581 --> 00:12:28,833 It's universal. 234 00:12:29,083 --> 00:12:31,043 To a large extent, yes. 235 00:12:31,127 --> 00:12:34,296 I mean, not everyone thinks of every possible thing. 236 00:12:34,380 --> 00:12:36,590 - Right. - But I guess what you're doing 237 00:12:36,674 --> 00:12:40,845 in The Rehearsal is so important for everyone else 238 00:12:41,554 --> 00:12:44,724 to know what it's like to have autism. 239 00:12:44,890 --> 00:12:48,144 Right? A lot of times people assume that if you're autistic, 240 00:12:48,436 --> 00:12:51,230 you have a lot of very severe issues. 241 00:12:51,522 --> 00:12:54,817 But there are people who are diagnosed as autistic 242 00:12:54,900 --> 00:12:56,986 who are only just trying 243 00:12:57,069 --> 00:12:59,113 - to fit in socially… - And everyone 244 00:12:59,196 --> 00:13:00,990 - has trouble with that. It seems. - Everyone has that. 245 00:13:01,115 --> 00:13:03,701 This is what's so unique about the show, 246 00:13:03,784 --> 00:13:06,537 is that you took it to a whole different level. You know? 247 00:13:06,620 --> 00:13:07,955 - Right. - And I think it's really nice 248 00:13:08,038 --> 00:13:09,290 to highlight 249 00:13:09,582 --> 00:13:13,627 for the neurotypical population, 250 00:13:14,128 --> 00:13:16,714 "Hey, this person could also be autistic." 251 00:13:16,839 --> 00:13:17,965 - Right. - You know. 252 00:13:18,048 --> 00:13:21,469 And you wouldn't know it necessarily, because they've learned over time 253 00:13:21,552 --> 00:13:23,971 to do all the things they have to do to fit in. 254 00:13:24,680 --> 00:13:26,932 Or it could be, they could not be autistic, 255 00:13:27,016 --> 00:13:29,059 and just like all of us wanna, 256 00:13:29,143 --> 00:13:31,187 you know, practice for a life situation. 257 00:13:31,270 --> 00:13:32,772 Definitely also true. 258 00:13:33,022 --> 00:13:36,108 To give me a better sense of how this group thinks, 259 00:13:36,192 --> 00:13:38,652 she showed me a demonstration to explain 260 00:13:38,736 --> 00:13:41,989 how an autistic person's brain differs from the rest of us. 261 00:13:42,323 --> 00:13:46,619 This is a test called, "Reading the Mind in the Eyes." 262 00:13:46,702 --> 00:13:51,540 And this is a very well-known, and valid, reputable test. 263 00:13:51,624 --> 00:13:55,753 And it asks the question, "How do you think these eyes feel?" 264 00:13:55,836 --> 00:13:58,756 - Or, "What is the person thinking?" - Okay. 265 00:13:58,839 --> 00:14:02,968 And autistic people have a very hard time 266 00:14:03,177 --> 00:14:05,763 figuring out what someone else is thinking. 267 00:14:05,846 --> 00:14:07,807 Okay. All right. 268 00:14:08,974 --> 00:14:12,728 So, how would you rate these eyes? 269 00:14:12,812 --> 00:14:18,400 As playful, comforting, irritated, or bored? 270 00:14:19,193 --> 00:14:20,486 Okay, yeah. 271 00:14:22,488 --> 00:14:23,739 Yeah, definitely… 272 00:14:26,408 --> 00:14:27,868 comforting, or… 273 00:14:31,622 --> 00:14:32,957 - Yeah. Or bored. - Comforting… 274 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,416 Bored or comforting. 275 00:14:34,708 --> 00:14:36,377 Or maybe playful? 276 00:14:36,752 --> 00:14:37,878 - But… - Is it… 277 00:14:37,962 --> 00:14:39,839 - Yeah. - Let's put one and see what happens. 278 00:14:39,922 --> 00:14:41,382 - We'll put comforting. - Yeah. 279 00:14:42,424 --> 00:14:43,843 - Oh, okay. - Playful. 280 00:14:44,218 --> 00:14:46,720 Playful? All right. Yeah, so… 281 00:14:47,304 --> 00:14:49,056 I see, yeah. I guess it's… 282 00:14:49,139 --> 00:14:50,516 Next one. 283 00:14:51,100 --> 00:14:54,687 Which word describes what they're thinking and feeling? 284 00:14:55,312 --> 00:14:58,065 Oh, yeah. The images are pretty low-res, huh? 285 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,402 - It's a difficult one. - Yeah, yeah. Just cause they're… 286 00:15:01,485 --> 00:15:07,032 Terrified, arrogant, annoyed, or upset. 287 00:15:08,701 --> 00:15:09,743 Right. 288 00:15:10,536 --> 00:15:12,162 Okay, yeah. So I think I get it, yeah. 289 00:15:12,538 --> 00:15:14,707 - Which one would you choose? - So, you're saying these people 290 00:15:14,790 --> 00:15:16,750 have trouble with this, you're saying? That's the point… 291 00:15:16,834 --> 00:15:18,377 - Yes, that's right. - …you're trying to make? 292 00:15:18,460 --> 00:15:20,421 Okay, well, that makes sense. Yeah. I don't know. It looks… 293 00:15:20,504 --> 00:15:21,922 Yeah. Choose what you think on this one. 294 00:15:21,964 --> 00:15:23,757 Yeah. Terrified, maybe. It looks… Yeah. 295 00:15:25,009 --> 00:15:27,678 Yeah, okay. So, upset. All right. 296 00:15:27,761 --> 00:15:29,430 - I get it. - But this is a very difficult test 297 00:15:29,513 --> 00:15:31,974 - 'cause it's very, very subtle. - Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. 298 00:15:32,182 --> 00:15:33,642 And even, like, we would disagree 299 00:15:33,726 --> 00:15:34,894 - perhaps on this. - Right. 300 00:15:35,519 --> 00:15:38,147 All right, cool. Yeah. Was there anything else with this 301 00:15:38,272 --> 00:15:40,190 - you wanted to show me or… Okay. - Nope. That's it. 302 00:15:40,482 --> 00:15:43,485 I felt like I got the gist of this autism stuff. 303 00:15:43,569 --> 00:15:46,238 So, it was time to tell Dr. Granpeesheh 304 00:15:46,322 --> 00:15:48,032 the real reason I was here. 305 00:15:48,115 --> 00:15:49,992 Just to be fully candid, 306 00:15:50,075 --> 00:15:51,619 I'm trying to get in with this lawmaker 307 00:15:51,952 --> 00:15:55,205 who is a supporter of autism awareness. 308 00:15:55,289 --> 00:15:56,540 - Great. - And… 309 00:15:56,624 --> 00:15:59,251 You know, since I'm sort of like… 310 00:16:00,085 --> 00:16:03,047 a "thought leader" maybe in this… area. 311 00:16:03,172 --> 00:16:05,007 I don't know if you… That's not the term I would use. 312 00:16:05,090 --> 00:16:06,926 - But would you use that term for me? - Yes. 313 00:16:07,009 --> 00:16:08,510 - Yes. - Like a thought leader just 314 00:16:08,594 --> 00:16:10,262 - because of the show and stuff? - Yes. 315 00:16:10,346 --> 00:16:14,558 So, I was wondering if there was any 316 00:16:14,934 --> 00:16:18,854 maybe opportunity for, like, an official relationship. 317 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,732 'Cause that I think might help me… 318 00:16:22,858 --> 00:16:26,153 - have some credibility with him. - Right. 319 00:16:26,236 --> 00:16:29,615 He'd be like, "Oh, you're… Whoa. That's legit." Or whatever. 320 00:16:29,782 --> 00:16:33,911 I told Dr. Granpeesheh more about my primary goal this season 321 00:16:33,994 --> 00:16:35,287 with aviation safety. 322 00:16:35,621 --> 00:16:37,456 It's related to, like, their communication 323 00:16:37,539 --> 00:16:38,791 - in the cockpit. - Okay. 324 00:16:38,874 --> 00:16:40,668 But we built this whole airport. 325 00:16:41,168 --> 00:16:42,503 That's amazing. 326 00:16:42,586 --> 00:16:44,797 But when I described the types of rehearsals 327 00:16:44,922 --> 00:16:47,591 we were doing with pilots, she got excited. 328 00:16:47,675 --> 00:16:50,719 We have to actually practice quite a bit with our kids 329 00:16:50,803 --> 00:16:53,222 in order for them to be able to smoothly 330 00:16:53,305 --> 00:16:55,349 go through an airport experience. 331 00:16:55,432 --> 00:16:58,060 - Oh, really? - Because the sound 332 00:16:58,143 --> 00:17:00,062 in airports is really loud, 333 00:17:00,187 --> 00:17:02,147 and they have to go through the security line, 334 00:17:02,231 --> 00:17:06,235 and all of that is very, very scary for a child with autism. 335 00:17:06,318 --> 00:17:07,361 Oh, okay. 336 00:17:07,444 --> 00:17:10,990 But a set like this would obviously be incredible. 337 00:17:11,407 --> 00:17:12,491 To use with the… 338 00:17:12,574 --> 00:17:15,244 To practice. To rehearse with our children. 339 00:17:15,327 --> 00:17:17,371 So, that when they go on their actual flight… 340 00:17:17,746 --> 00:17:18,747 Right. 341 00:17:18,831 --> 00:17:21,166 …they're good. And they can handle it. 342 00:17:22,459 --> 00:17:23,460 Right, yeah. 343 00:17:23,544 --> 00:17:26,588 I just sort of… I made a commitment to myself 344 00:17:26,672 --> 00:17:31,010 we weren't gonna use any kids in the rehearsals this season. 345 00:17:31,635 --> 00:17:33,053 - Yeah. - Oh, right. 346 00:17:33,137 --> 00:17:35,556 Some people were a little… Yeah. 347 00:17:36,056 --> 00:17:37,349 Just from… 348 00:17:37,433 --> 00:17:39,518 - The previous show? - …what happened last season. Yeah. 349 00:17:39,935 --> 00:17:41,353 - Yeah. - But… 350 00:17:43,188 --> 00:17:48,027 I thought you took pretty good care of the child actors. 351 00:17:48,610 --> 00:17:53,991 You as the kind of "acting parent" in that role. 352 00:17:54,116 --> 00:17:57,244 With our parents, like, if you have a parent, 353 00:17:57,327 --> 00:18:01,999 if I have a parent that I see who definitely has autism themselves, 354 00:18:02,332 --> 00:18:04,543 sometimes the parents have a very hard time 355 00:18:04,626 --> 00:18:06,587 figuring out what their kids need. 356 00:18:06,837 --> 00:18:09,214 You know, just like that episode, the last episode. 357 00:18:09,298 --> 00:18:11,967 Like, they can't really understand their emotions, 358 00:18:12,051 --> 00:18:14,094 the emotions of their own children. 359 00:18:14,470 --> 00:18:17,347 And that leads to a lot of issues for their kids. 360 00:18:18,348 --> 00:18:21,852 But at the same time, I feel like you did a great job, honestly. 361 00:18:21,935 --> 00:18:25,522 Because you provided that level of attachment 362 00:18:25,689 --> 00:18:28,400 that made him feel like he could call you "Daddy." 363 00:18:28,567 --> 00:18:30,527 You know? Look at that side of it. 364 00:18:30,778 --> 00:18:31,820 Okay. 365 00:18:33,197 --> 00:18:37,576 Well, maybe I could try it out. See how it goes. 366 00:18:39,203 --> 00:18:40,412 Come on in. 367 00:18:43,082 --> 00:18:45,375 This looks… Oh, wow. This… 368 00:18:46,543 --> 00:18:52,424 The world can be a scary place in ways not all of us can easily see. 369 00:18:53,092 --> 00:18:57,054 My name is Kai. I'm a kid, and I'm ten years old. 370 00:18:57,262 --> 00:19:00,307 Excellent, Kai. It's very nice to meet you. 371 00:19:00,516 --> 00:19:02,559 I've never been to Colorado. 372 00:19:02,643 --> 00:19:03,852 You've never been to Colorado? 373 00:19:03,936 --> 00:19:05,604 And I guess for some people, 374 00:19:05,687 --> 00:19:08,148 rehearsing is a way of coping with all that. 375 00:19:08,232 --> 00:19:09,358 How are you feeling? 376 00:19:09,775 --> 00:19:11,443 - I'm happy. - You're happy? 377 00:19:11,860 --> 00:19:13,278 Okay, good. Good. 378 00:19:13,529 --> 00:19:17,324 Without a rehearsal, life can be a struggle. 379 00:19:17,407 --> 00:19:20,285 I left a package for you with Sam. 380 00:19:20,369 --> 00:19:22,955 - Oh, what's in the package? - Invitation to the board, 381 00:19:23,038 --> 00:19:25,666 - invitation to the honoree event. - Oh, great. Okay. 382 00:19:25,749 --> 00:19:26,750 - Okay. - Yeah. 383 00:19:26,875 --> 00:19:28,544 As the newest board member 384 00:19:28,627 --> 00:19:31,547 of the Center for Autism and Related Disorders… 385 00:19:31,672 --> 00:19:33,841 - Nathan's Airport! - Nathan's Airport! 386 00:19:34,091 --> 00:19:37,803 …I was able to secure a meeting with Congressman Cohen. 387 00:19:40,889 --> 00:19:45,352 This was my one shot to get in front of the Aviation Subcommittee. 388 00:19:47,437 --> 00:19:51,024 So, you'd think that for a conversation so important, 389 00:19:51,108 --> 00:19:54,903 I wouldn't dare go into it without a thorough rehearsal. 390 00:19:56,155 --> 00:19:59,867 But it might surprise you to learn that for someone like me, 391 00:19:59,950 --> 00:20:02,911 rehearsing actually isn't essential. 392 00:20:03,745 --> 00:20:07,916 I like to do it, but it's not something I need to do. 393 00:20:08,792 --> 00:20:12,462 It's more of an exercise. A bonus. 394 00:20:13,172 --> 00:20:15,299 Like a fun, helpful tool. 395 00:20:17,217 --> 00:20:21,180 That's why I'm going into this meeting completely cold. 396 00:20:22,389 --> 00:20:25,767 I can function just fine without rehearsing. 397 00:20:31,732 --> 00:20:33,108 - Hi. - Hi. 398 00:20:33,317 --> 00:20:34,735 - You are Nathan. - I'm Nathan. 399 00:20:34,818 --> 00:20:35,986 - I'm Steve. - Steve. 400 00:20:36,069 --> 00:20:38,363 Pleasure. Honor to meet you. Thank you for having me. 401 00:20:38,697 --> 00:20:41,283 - Where are you from? - Vancouver, Canada. 402 00:20:41,366 --> 00:20:42,451 Oh, I love Vancouver. 403 00:20:42,534 --> 00:20:43,785 - Yeah. - What a great town. 404 00:20:43,869 --> 00:20:45,037 - I went there… - Thank you. 405 00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:47,664 …probably back in about 30 years ago. 406 00:20:47,748 --> 00:20:50,167 And I forget the places I stayed, but it was just delightful. 407 00:20:50,250 --> 00:20:51,919 There was one place that was up where they… 408 00:20:52,002 --> 00:20:57,216 It's the eagles, and lots of wind, and whales and… 409 00:20:57,633 --> 00:20:59,593 The whole Alaska experience. 410 00:21:00,260 --> 00:21:01,511 - Yeah. - Yeah. 411 00:21:02,304 --> 00:21:04,556 Well, it's an honor to meet you, 412 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,391 and… and… 413 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,060 you know, thank you, I wanna say, 414 00:21:08,143 --> 00:21:11,438 for all your contributions and advocacy 415 00:21:11,521 --> 00:21:13,398 for the autism community. 416 00:21:13,482 --> 00:21:17,152 Yeah. It's become more and more aware 417 00:21:17,778 --> 00:21:20,155 for more people about how many people have it 418 00:21:20,239 --> 00:21:22,950 and the problems they have in navigating society. 419 00:21:23,033 --> 00:21:25,744 And you're also on the Aviation Subcommittee, 420 00:21:25,827 --> 00:21:26,912 I understand. 421 00:21:27,204 --> 00:21:30,165 Yes, I'm the Ranking Member of the Aviation Subcommittee 422 00:21:30,249 --> 00:21:31,541 on Transportation. 423 00:21:31,667 --> 00:21:34,002 And I've been on Transportation for 18 years now. 424 00:21:34,211 --> 00:21:36,296 Eighteen years? Wow. 425 00:21:36,922 --> 00:21:41,301 And through… through my… through my… 426 00:21:42,177 --> 00:21:47,015 You know, in my time in aviation, I've actually learned and realized 427 00:21:47,099 --> 00:21:50,352 that there's a connection between autism and aviation 428 00:21:50,435 --> 00:21:53,272 - that I'd love to, um, kind of… - Share. 429 00:21:53,355 --> 00:21:54,898 Share, yeah. Tell you a little more about… 430 00:21:54,982 --> 00:21:56,525 - Please. - …the stuff I've discovered. 431 00:21:57,401 --> 00:21:59,695 Okay. So… 432 00:22:01,446 --> 00:22:03,991 Now, I know these are some of the reports 433 00:22:04,074 --> 00:22:05,242 you guys normally… 434 00:22:05,325 --> 00:22:07,828 These are like crash investigation reports, right? 435 00:22:07,911 --> 00:22:10,414 I got Representative Cohen up to speed 436 00:22:10,497 --> 00:22:12,291 on the problem I had discovered. 437 00:22:12,374 --> 00:22:15,711 This dynamic between captains and first officers is one of… 438 00:22:16,670 --> 00:22:20,173 maybe the leading cause of commercial airline crashes 439 00:22:20,257 --> 00:22:21,258 in history. 440 00:22:21,341 --> 00:22:26,179 It's not the sole cause of the crash, but had someone asserted themselves, 441 00:22:26,263 --> 00:22:28,890 the plane might not have gone down. 442 00:22:28,974 --> 00:22:30,475 I wondered where that went to. 443 00:22:30,976 --> 00:22:33,103 - What? - Autism… 444 00:22:34,354 --> 00:22:36,315 - Pilots. - Well… 445 00:22:37,357 --> 00:22:39,818 I guess it was sort of a transition, but… 446 00:22:39,901 --> 00:22:41,945 - It was a transition, yes, yes. - Just because… 447 00:22:42,696 --> 00:22:44,990 But there's an interesting connection 448 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,617 with autism because people with autism, 449 00:22:48,744 --> 00:22:54,499 or those living struggle sometimes in interaction. 450 00:22:56,543 --> 00:22:57,753 And… 451 00:22:59,421 --> 00:23:01,256 Sorry, I had this all thought out. 452 00:23:03,133 --> 00:23:04,134 Hold on. 453 00:23:07,387 --> 00:23:08,513 One sec. 454 00:23:11,725 --> 00:23:15,187 Okay. Are you familiar with a term 455 00:23:15,270 --> 00:23:17,731 in the autism community called "Masking"? 456 00:23:17,814 --> 00:23:18,815 No. 457 00:23:18,899 --> 00:23:21,234 "People with autism sometimes use masking 458 00:23:21,318 --> 00:23:23,820 to avoid being judged rather than showing 459 00:23:23,904 --> 00:23:25,364 what they're feeling inside." 460 00:23:25,447 --> 00:23:27,491 "They avoid expressing things 461 00:23:27,574 --> 00:23:30,202 because they don't wanna rock the boat socially." 462 00:23:30,702 --> 00:23:31,828 - You understand? - Yeah. 463 00:23:31,912 --> 00:23:35,207 Okay. Sorry, I… This is like… 464 00:23:36,124 --> 00:23:38,960 I feel like it's less engaging when I'm reading, but… 465 00:23:39,044 --> 00:23:40,754 - Okay. - I usually do things off the cuff, 466 00:23:40,837 --> 00:23:42,506 - but reading is good. - Okay. 467 00:23:43,173 --> 00:23:45,926 "It's been proven that when non-autistic people 468 00:23:46,009 --> 00:23:47,552 know someone is autistic, 469 00:23:47,677 --> 00:23:49,930 they tend to judge them less harshly." 470 00:23:50,263 --> 00:23:53,350 "And that knowledge allows the person with autism 471 00:23:53,433 --> 00:23:56,019 to drop their mask and to be themselves." 472 00:23:56,436 --> 00:23:59,564 "And that's because they now have permission 473 00:23:59,648 --> 00:24:01,400 to play a different character, 474 00:24:01,775 --> 00:24:05,529 a character who is actually closer to who they really are." 475 00:24:05,946 --> 00:24:08,407 "I've discovered that pilots do a form of masking 476 00:24:08,490 --> 00:24:10,325 of their own where they're afraid 477 00:24:10,409 --> 00:24:12,369 to show their true selves to each other 478 00:24:12,452 --> 00:24:14,246 during critical moments of flight." 479 00:24:14,704 --> 00:24:15,914 Does that make sense? 480 00:24:15,997 --> 00:24:19,209 It's kind of convoluted, but I'll take it. 481 00:24:20,210 --> 00:24:21,670 So, let me just… 482 00:24:23,672 --> 00:24:27,968 "Here you'll see two real pilots, a captain and first officer 483 00:24:28,051 --> 00:24:32,556 who both work for Southwest Airlines, demonstrating how this would work." 484 00:24:32,639 --> 00:24:35,267 And Southwest isn't affiliated with this, by the way. 485 00:24:35,350 --> 00:24:37,144 They're just helping me on their spare time. 486 00:24:37,727 --> 00:24:38,728 Okay. 487 00:24:39,020 --> 00:24:40,772 "When the pilots arrive for their flight, 488 00:24:40,856 --> 00:24:43,233 along with their pre-flight bulletins, 489 00:24:43,316 --> 00:24:46,653 they're each digitally sent a one-page document 490 00:24:46,736 --> 00:24:48,029 with a character description, 491 00:24:48,113 --> 00:24:51,283 and two short lines of dialogue to memorize each." 492 00:24:51,950 --> 00:24:55,203 "The pilots will be assigned one of two characters." 493 00:24:55,745 --> 00:24:59,875 "The first officer is assigned the role of 'First Officer Blunt.'" 494 00:25:00,250 --> 00:25:03,253 "First Officer Blunt is a pilot who loves speaking up." 495 00:25:03,545 --> 00:25:05,297 "He's honest, almost to a fault, 496 00:25:05,422 --> 00:25:08,842 and not afraid to take over the controls if necessary." 497 00:25:09,217 --> 00:25:11,970 "And most importantly, he's a great pilot." 498 00:25:12,762 --> 00:25:14,097 "The captain of the flight 499 00:25:14,181 --> 00:25:16,808 is assigned the role of 'Captain Allears.'" 500 00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:19,936 "Captain Allears loves feedback, 501 00:25:20,020 --> 00:25:22,355 and is not afraid to admit when he's wrong." 502 00:25:22,439 --> 00:25:23,690 Now, Blunt is the captain 503 00:25:23,773 --> 00:25:25,817 - or the first… - First officer. 504 00:25:25,901 --> 00:25:27,986 He's the first guy. And Allears is the other guy. 505 00:25:28,069 --> 00:25:29,488 - Allears is… - So, it's a perfect world, 506 00:25:29,571 --> 00:25:31,239 - 'cause the captain's got all ears. - Yes. 507 00:25:31,323 --> 00:25:32,866 - I gotcha. - It's… Yeah. 508 00:25:33,033 --> 00:25:35,702 "The pilots will use their time in the pilot's lounge, 509 00:25:35,952 --> 00:25:37,746 where they currently do nothing, 510 00:25:38,121 --> 00:25:41,124 to engage in a short scripted introduction 511 00:25:41,208 --> 00:25:43,877 that serves to both get them into character 512 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,295 and confirm to each other 513 00:25:45,712 --> 00:25:47,964 that they've each read their character brief." 514 00:25:48,048 --> 00:25:50,091 Hey, good to meet you. I'm Blunt. 515 00:25:50,592 --> 00:25:51,718 I'm Allears. 516 00:25:52,093 --> 00:25:54,346 Can I ask you, how does my uniform look? 517 00:25:54,888 --> 00:25:56,848 Looks a little tight, to be honest. 518 00:25:57,724 --> 00:25:59,851 I'm glad you mentioned that. Thanks for telling me. 519 00:26:00,435 --> 00:26:01,978 "But those lines are it." 520 00:26:02,062 --> 00:26:04,940 "And they can just go back to flying as themselves, 521 00:26:05,023 --> 00:26:08,068 but now, they have the excuse of these characters 522 00:26:08,151 --> 00:26:10,403 to take actions that would normally be 523 00:26:10,487 --> 00:26:12,072 socially challenging for them." 524 00:26:12,197 --> 00:26:14,241 - Does that make sense? - Yeah. 525 00:26:14,324 --> 00:26:16,326 "And through our experimentation, 526 00:26:16,409 --> 00:26:18,912 we found that pilots end up actually bonding 527 00:26:18,995 --> 00:26:20,539 over how silly it all is…" 528 00:26:20,622 --> 00:26:22,666 If I come across strong, that's… you know why. 529 00:26:22,749 --> 00:26:24,793 - I'll keep that in mind. - Yeah. 530 00:26:25,502 --> 00:26:28,088 "…which actually improves communication between them, 531 00:26:28,171 --> 00:26:31,675 and reduces tension during simulated emergencies." 532 00:26:32,717 --> 00:26:34,844 We gonna deviate from this storm up here? 533 00:26:34,928 --> 00:26:37,013 I think we can punch through those clouds. 534 00:26:37,097 --> 00:26:38,974 I don't know, man. That's a pretty fat storm. 535 00:26:39,057 --> 00:26:41,393 I'm just gonna… I'm just gonna go. 536 00:26:41,476 --> 00:26:43,436 You know what? I'll take us around. 537 00:26:43,937 --> 00:26:45,522 - I have the aircraft. - Really? 538 00:26:45,605 --> 00:26:46,856 I'm gonna deviate over to the right. 539 00:26:46,940 --> 00:26:48,358 That… Okay. 540 00:26:49,067 --> 00:26:50,110 Yeah, I'm a little blunt. 541 00:26:50,193 --> 00:26:52,904 I know that it was a little abrupt the way I took it from you, 542 00:26:53,113 --> 00:26:55,490 - but you know me. - Okay. Yeah, yeah. 543 00:26:55,782 --> 00:26:57,492 You see how he referenced the character there, 544 00:26:57,576 --> 00:26:59,911 and it sort of eased the tension. 545 00:27:00,370 --> 00:27:01,705 I'm just kind of a blunt guy sometimes. 546 00:27:01,788 --> 00:27:03,665 We gotta make sure we get around this weather. You know? 547 00:27:03,748 --> 00:27:04,791 I like the feedback. 548 00:27:04,874 --> 00:27:06,293 - I like it. Thanks. - Yeah. 549 00:27:06,459 --> 00:27:11,381 "With this, ego, fear, and judgment all vanish from the cockpit." 550 00:27:11,464 --> 00:27:14,718 "It's an elegant, simple solution that's easy to implement." 551 00:27:14,801 --> 00:27:16,177 "And for the first time, 552 00:27:16,469 --> 00:27:19,848 pilots can be free to be who they want to be, 553 00:27:19,931 --> 00:27:21,433 and who they really are." 554 00:27:23,893 --> 00:27:27,314 So, let me speak before the Aviation Subcommittee. 555 00:27:27,397 --> 00:27:28,690 You can see I've done the work. 556 00:27:28,773 --> 00:27:33,236 Let's get this on everyone's radar, and, you know… 557 00:27:34,904 --> 00:27:37,991 And let's work together to solve… save some lives. 558 00:27:40,910 --> 00:27:42,203 What do you think? 559 00:27:45,582 --> 00:27:48,460 You know… Something to be considered. 560 00:27:48,543 --> 00:27:51,588 But I think that the pilots, you know, the airlines 561 00:27:52,172 --> 00:27:54,716 could be encouraged to have a better relationship 562 00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:58,136 between the pilot and the co-pilot, and that would be good. 563 00:27:59,429 --> 00:28:00,930 - Okay. - Great. 564 00:28:02,140 --> 00:28:03,892 - Thank you. - Okay. Great. 565 00:28:03,975 --> 00:28:05,644 - Thank you. - You're welcome, you're welcome. 566 00:28:05,727 --> 00:28:08,688 Okay. Good. Is there… Okay. 567 00:28:13,026 --> 00:28:15,487 Did you have any questions for me, or anything else? 568 00:28:15,612 --> 00:28:17,072 Not really. Thank you. 569 00:28:20,283 --> 00:28:21,326 Okay. 570 00:28:26,665 --> 00:28:27,999 Good to see ya. 571 00:28:28,083 --> 00:28:29,292 Okay, great. 572 00:28:29,376 --> 00:28:30,585 - Thank you. - Thank you. 573 00:28:30,919 --> 00:28:32,587 Thank you, thank you, thank you. 574 00:28:32,879 --> 00:28:36,257 Thank you, sir. All right, I'll just clear out. 575 00:28:38,176 --> 00:28:39,719 Thank you for having me, and… 576 00:28:39,803 --> 00:28:41,971 - You're very welcome. - Okay, great.